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[quote name='hankmecrankme']And put more PS1 games on PSN. I'm tired of them half assing that.[/QUOTE]

If SCEA tripled their efforts on this front, they'd be half-assing it.
 
[quote name='dallow']So basically, nothing you said mattered, since it seems you'd do fine without either system.

Hehe, I understand what you're saying, but none of it really applies to you.
I hope for one system future, but not for clutters' sake.[/QUOTE]

Oh, clutter is hardly the main reason for me either! :D

I'd just love to have all the HD games in one place as there are some games on the PS3 I'd really like to play--just not enough to buy another console.

Reducing clutter is just an added benefit--more so if I move in with my girlfriend this summer since her condo is like 40% of the size of my current place. :D

Though again it may all be moot for me in the future anyway.....as of right now if forced to make a decision I probably won't buy another game console after the 360. Just getting to the point of not having the interest or time to bother with it anymore. But at the same time online gaming is a lot of fun and a good way to keep in touch with friends who live in other states etc., so time will tell I guess.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If SCEA tripled their efforts on this front, they'd be half-assing it.[/quote]


I'd buy a 3x cheaper PS3.
 
Does anyone else put off gaming despite their desires? For example, I want to play RE5 and PoP but I don't want to go through the activity of playing it. I don't know how to explain it. Like I feel I need an ideal situation .. like a day off with nothing to do .. so I sit here and I end up just capitulating and wasting time on CAG. :/
 
[quote name='Maklershed']Does anyone else put off gaming despite their desires? For example, I want to play RE5 and PoP but I don't want to go through the activity of playing it. I don't know how to explain it. Like I feel I need an ideal situation .. like a day off with nothing to do .. so I sit here and I end up just capitulating and wasting time on CAG. :/[/QUOTE]

I do it a lot.

I'll be playing a game and kind of want to play it but just can't get motivated. Part of it is just being busy, tired and stressed out/burnt out lately. I enjoy playing games but many times when I do have free time I end up going out for beers or just sitting around watching TV or movies instead, or goofing online.

I think the big part of it is that games are interactive and thus take a lot more attention/effort vs. just laying on the couch and watching TV or a movie.

With gaming I'm playing Fable II (haven't touched it for a couple of weeks--but I'm liking it), Left 4 Dead (playing co-op with roommate so play that more) and have Prince of Persia and Fallout 3 waiting to be played. Will also get RE5 at some point to play with my roommate since he loves the series and the demo was fun in co-op.

Just a matter of getting motivated to get motivated to play through those games! Fallout 3 will wait until at least summer when I have more time--and to get a break from Bethesda RPGs after playing Oblivion over the past several months.
 
[quote name='Maklershed']Does anyone else put off gaming despite their desires? For example, I want to play RE5 and PoP but I don't want to go through the activity of playing it. I don't know how to explain it. Like I feel I need an ideal situation .. like a day off with nothing to do .. so I sit here and I end up just capitulating and wasting time on CAG. :/[/QUOTE]

This is me a lot. I think it's just because I'm burnt out. Though I've played a ton of RE5 lately.

When I get like this, I just go back and play my favorites.

One thing is, it makes me wonder if gaming just isn't as good as it used to be.
 
[quote name='Maklershed']Does anyone else put off gaming despite their desires? For example, I want to play RE5 and PoP but I don't want to go through the activity of playing it. I don't know how to explain it. Like I feel I need an ideal situation .. like a day off with nothing to do .. so I sit here and I end up just capitulating and wasting time on CAG. :/[/quote]
Holy crap, me!

I'm usually on my couch wanting to play RE5, or KZ2, or PoP, and instead think about what else I can do, and do nothing when all is said and done.
 
[quote name='Maklershed']Does anyone else put off gaming despite their desires? For example, I want to play RE5 and PoP but I don't want to go through the activity of playing it. I don't know how to explain it. Like I feel I need an ideal situation .. like a day off with nothing to do .. so I sit here and I end up just capitulating and wasting time on CAG. :/[/quote]

I know exactly what you mean. It feels a little bit like I have OCD when I get like that, so I guess I'm not the only one.
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']
One thing is, it makes me wonder if gaming just isn't as good as it used to be.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, when I do game I've been having the most fun with the 360 that I've had with gaming since the SNES era.

I think it's just being older (30), busier and tired/burnt out more often. That and part of it is just more sophisticated tastes with age and often getting more enjoyment out of watching a great film or reading a great book than playing a great game.

With gaming it's just cathartic and relaxing--kind of like watching a popcorn action move or something. And I just find myself enjoying that kind of stuff less than I used to. *shrugs*
 
I've been addicted to music as of late, both listening and creating. I love playing drums, and I have 2 potential bands that may need me. So I'm all about that. :)

I feel you on the old and jaded part though. I still play a lot of fighters though, I'll never stop playing them.
 
I think that's it too, dmaul.

Games just aren't as "serious business" to me as they were when I was younger when they were my main source of entertainment.
While I still really enjoy them, and I feel I'm not overwhelmed by modern games, they do take a second seat to other things that I now enjoy more.

That being said, I'm sure I'll be a "gamer" or whatever for the rest of my life.
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']Sony needs to stop fucking around and drop the PS3 to $300. They need to do something, anything, to gain ground.[/quote]They can't very easily. Howard Stringer (CEO of Sony corp.) is heavily pressuring SCE to break even/profit. And since PS3 hardware still sells at a loss, he's not letting them cut the price. Until Sony is profiting or breaking even on PS3, they aren't going to do anything about the PS3 pricetag. Some may say that cutting the price would meant to more game sales, but the only way Sony can make that back up is if people buy a significant number of PS3 software and accessories (and the people who want to wait for a price drop, aren't exactly the type to buy many games anyway). David Reeves (President of SCEE) even said that they did not drop the PS2/PS1 price until they would break-even profit, and that's what they are going to do with PS3. The most they will currently do is bundle, because including a game only costs the price of case, manual, and blu-ray disc.

Basically, they are willing to sacrifice market share just so they can be profitable.

And Sony isn't exactly giving away breaks to lose money such as:
-They cut the console from South Korea since the currency dropped significantly, and people were importing it from there to save a lot (keep in mind game consoles don't tend to sell a lot there anyway).
-There is no way anyone is getting around a cheaper PS3 repair, if they console breaks and someone doesn't have the receipt/warranty is up.

As consumers, close competition will benefit us. I'd hate to see Sony flounder like this and end up bowing out.
The only region PS3 hasn't done that great in is North America. In the U.K., PS3/360 are much closer (360 was out much longer than PS3, when compared to the NA difference) and in Japan/most of Europe, PS3 is the #2 console. And if Sony is performing this way despite having a high price tag, that is another reason they aren't looking at a major pricecut just yet.

And put more PS1 games on PSN. I'm tired of them half assing that.
Ugh, I've explained it too many times. Placing PS1 games in the store isn't as easy as people think.
John Diamonon replied on August 14, 2008 at 10:18 am

When developers first created games on the PSone, not many companies accounted for their games being ported in the digital space, 10 to 13 years later. The reason why you don’t see too many games on the PSone classics right now is because there are so many legal and licensing challenges for the developer. It’s possible that the developer no longer owns the IP, or the rights to the music, voice overs, images, etc.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008...oday-on-the-psn/comment-page-1/#comment-98744

For an example, if a game uses particular music, art, etc., it needs to be re-licensed for use.
In Japan, companies like Square Enix and Konami have supported the PSN by re-releasing treasured PS1 classics onto the PS Store. However, the rest of the world's catalog has been quite lacking. Yoshida explained that these digital downloads don't offer much profit, calling the potential monies "insignificant." He also noted that there are many issues involving licensing, especially with the music found in older games. That usually adds to the difficulty of bringing back PS1 games.
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008...we-havent-done-enough-with-third-parties-for/

And there's also some publishers who no longer exists, and some people who prefer not to have their games on PSN due to previous issues with SCEA (looks at the old President of Working Design when people asked about Arc The Lad as a PS1 download in NA).

It really comes down to, trying to re-license old games is a pain (whether it be VC or PSN) and for what they sell for (despite all you have to go through) doesn't make it worthwhile many times. If SCEA/SCEE just placed any PS1 game in the Store, they'd be facing legal issues from someone wanting their share or whatever (because its technically their game or they have some part in it).
 
I think this procrastination in gaming for me it has a lot to do with the fact that my free time starts at 6pm and ends at about 9pm. So I feel my time is very important and can't be "wasted" on gaming (although I don't see why not .. its just as valid a hobby as reading or watching movies). The irony being that I don't do anything with that time anyway. I guess there's the part that being gone at work for 11 hours and having a stressful job that utilizes a lot of problem solving and calculating :)headache:), I just want to shut my body/brain down for three hours until I go to bed.
 
Mana, you're a nice guy, but you need to stop. You can't keep defending Sony.
Let's be honest. They're failing.

Anyway, I'M SEEING U2 WHEN THEY COME TO TORONTO.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
[quote name='Maklershed']I think this procrastination in gaming for me it has a lot to do with the fact that my free time starts at 6pm and ends at about 9pm. So I feel my time is very important and can't be "wasted" on gaming (although I don't see why not .. its just as valid a hobby as reading or watching movies). The irony being that I don't do anything with that time anyway. I guess there's the part that being gone at work for 11 hours and having a stressful job that utilizes a lot of problem solving and calculating :)headache:), I just want to shut my body/brain down for three hours until I go to bed.[/quote]
Yeah, there's that too.
After getting home around 6:30pm every day, I need to fit in dinner, cat, general cleanup, and whatever errands I need to take care of. Difficult to lose hours to a game.
 
I'm super sophisticated.

I had some soft shell crabs I fried up last night while playing Banjo.
Also some white wine.

actually, i did prepare some for the first time, delicious, but it wasn't wine, it was tequila, and i had too much as i kept cursing out a freakin' penguin in the game
 
I listen to Coltrane and sip a 1995 zinfandel at 57 degrees while I play Grand Theft Auto.

Then I whip out a box of "Cheez-Its" and watch reruns of "The View."
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']They can't very easily. Howard Stringer (CEO of Sony corp.) is heavily pressuring SCE to break even/profit. And since PS3 hardware still sells at a loss, he's not letting them cut the price. Until Sony is profiting or breaking even on PS3, they aren't going to do anything about the PS3 pricetag. Some may say that cutting the price would meant to more game sales, but the only way Sony can make that back up is if people buy a significant number of PS3 software and accessories (and the people who want to wait for a price drop, aren't exactly the type to buy many games anyway). [/quote]
Yeah, I know how business works. At least they aren't cheapening out on production to drop the price, other than removing PS2 BC. Not that I really care about PS2 BC.

And I don't like paying $55 for a controller, so I only have one, the Sixaxis my system came with. I don't like buying accessories unless I have to. Software, I'm still waiting on a cheap copy of Uncharted. Sony's first party games take forever to go down in price now.

The only region PS3 hasn't done that great in is North America. In the U.K., PS3/360 are much closer (360 was out much longer than PS3, when compared to the NA difference) and in Japan/most of Europe, PS3 is the #2 console. And if Sony is performing this way despite having a high price tag, that is another reason they aren't looking at a major pricecut just yet.
Definitely. North America is a huge market though. At least PS3 is doing well enough overseas.

Ugh, I've explained it too many times. Placing PS1 games in the store isn't as easy as people think.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008...oday-on-the-psn/comment-page-1/#comment-98744

For an example, if a game uses particular music, art, etc., it needs to be re-licensed for use.

http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008...we-havent-done-enough-with-third-parties-for/

And there's also some publishers who no longer exists, and some people who prefer not to have their games on PSN due to previous issues with SCEA (looks at the old President of Working Design when people asked about Arc The Lad as a PS1 download in NA).

It really comes down to, trying to re-license old games is a pain (whether it be VC or PSN) and for what they sell for (despite all you have to go through) doesn't make it worthwhile many times. If SCEA/SCEE just placed any PS1 game in the Store, they'd be facing legal issues from someone wanting their share or whatever (because its technically their game or they have some part in it).
All I'm really asking for is what the Japan store has as far as Square Enix, Capcom, and Konami games are concerned.

And maybe it shouldn't be about pure profit, but about pleasing your fans and the people who paid hard earned money for your system.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']"sophisticated tastes."

:lol:[/QUOTE]

Meh, what else would you call it?

I used to enjoy spending a ton of time on games, action movies, etc. etc. Now I'd rather spend my free time on serious movies, good books, etc. etc. Though I do still enjoy games, action movies etc.--just less so and less often than in the past.

Seems to be the norm for most people with aging be it entertainment, types of food you like etc. etc. Taste/interests become more "sophisticated" with aging, having more disposable income etc.

I used to sit around and drink soda/cheap beer, eat some cheap crappy food and watch crappy movies or play games. Now it's good food, good beer and good movies more often than the more frivolous stuff.

But to each their own, wasn't trying to sound superior or anything. Just saying how my tastes/interests have changed over time. *shrugs*
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I listen to Coltrane and sip a 1995 zinfandel at 57 degrees while I play Grand Theft Auto.

Then I whip out a box of "Cheez-Its" and watch reruns of "The View."[/QUOTE]

Dude, I'm about ready to dig into my Cheddar Jack Cheez-Its right about now!! And drink some Pepsi to go with them. No way in fucking hell will I be watching "The View" though.

My tastes are based on what I like. So what if I love fried chicken? I'd rather have that then a meal at a 4 star restaurant.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']

Then I whip out a box of "Cheez-Its" and watch reruns of "The View."[/quote]


White Cheddar Cheez-Its :drool:

I gotta go rock some Duoz now. Damn you myke! *shakes fist*
 
I stopped liking Cheese Puffs after I turned 7 years old, but there are these new "natural Cheese Puffs" :lol: and I'll be damned if I didn't find them so delicious.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']
THERE'S JUST NO TIME, DAMMIT! HOW AM I POSTING THIS!?[/QUOTE]

From my desk at work where I can't watch movies, play any decent games etc., but can goof online when procrastinating. :D

Oh, and Cheez Its are the shit. The reduced fat ones are one of my snacks of choice for nights of gaming and drinking. :D
 
Meh, what else would you call it?

I used to enjoy spending a ton of time on games, action movies, etc. etc. Now I'd rather spend my free time on serious movies, good books, etc. etc. Though I do still enjoy games, action movies etc.--just less so and less often than in the past.

Seems to be the norm for most people with aging be it entertainment, types of food you like etc. etc. Taste/interests become more "sophisticated" with aging, having more disposable income etc.

I think that sounds right...when people get older their tastes often do get more sophisticated and refined.

but I don't think I'll ever get over gaming and dumb action movies, though I don't watch The Last Dragon and Showdown in Little Tokyo twice a weekend like I did when I was a kid. Sunday through Thursday, I pretty much game at night from like 9-12, then read from 12-1, then wake up groggy as shit for work at 7:30. but its worth it! :D Sometimes I stay in on weekends to game even more, though it never really works out...I usually just end up going out at 11pm instead of the usual 8 or 9.

but I'm happy to have a pretty sophisticated group of friends who can still get drunk on cheap beer and act like idiots. Unwinding is important.

[quote name='dallow']I stopped liking Cheese Puffs after I turned 7 years old, but there are these new "natural Cheese Puffs" :lol: and I'll be damned if I didn't find them so delicious.[/QUOTE]


weak. only real men eat real cheez poofz with real preservativez
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Meh, what else would you call it?

words words words. the rest of the post is just above, lazy. so go read it there.[/QUOTE]

Me? I'd call it "taste." Assuming mine is more sophisticated than anothers assumes (1) that taste is something that can be objectively measured, and (2) categories of "high culture" and "low culture" exist.

Which is a sham, and lame, and worst of all, pretentious. Do you really *need* to define your tastes as "sophisticated"? Are they, really? Compared to what?

If you think you're more "sophisticated" because you like Stone beers instead of Pabst Blue Ribbon, then you've misplaced yourself in American culture, because you're mistaking your position as a cultural *consumer* for a position as a cultural *ambassador/producer*.

When I think of "high culture," I think of the trend in the post-WWII era, back when refrigerators were becoming household appliances. Like Blu-Ray players, they appeared in wealthy folks' homes first and most prominently. So wealthy folks devised (not intentionally, mind) foods that would show off the fact that they had a refrigerator, and were, therefore, wealthy and of high-class.

What awesome treats did we get from that?

JELLO MEAT MOLDS.

Tip yer teacup towards that'un, fancy lad.
 
[quote name='Azumangaman']Mana, you're a nice guy, but you need to stop. You can't keep defending Sony.
Let's be honest. They're failing.[/quote]Tell me Sony is failing when they've been lighting up Japanese sales charts as of recent, and many PS3 games have done very well on European sales charts. That's definitely not failure.

I already know your preference since I've noticed you buy most of your multi games on one platform. ;)
[quote name='hankmecrankme']Yeah, I know how business works. At least they aren't cheapening out on production to drop the price, other than removing PS2 BC. Not that I really care about PS2 BC.[/quote]I'm glad they aren't. I was concerned they would in order to cut cost (they did it with PS2 for sure, because even I know the PS2 hardware was built very cheaply). Although I like my PSP Slim, it kind of feels that way too.

And I don't like paying $55 for a controller, so I only have one, the Sixaxis my system came with. I don't like buying accessories unless I have to. Software, I'm still waiting on a cheap copy of Uncharted. Sony's first party games take forever to go down in price now.
Yeah, I explained in another somewhere in the GGT that SCEA does not drop prices of their first party games, until just before the next installment comes out (I'm betting Uncharted will drop price in August 2009, since SCEA normally reveals its GH lineup in August).

Definitely. North America is a huge market though. At least PS3 is doing well enough overseas.
I honestly think that's what they are more concerned about. Oh course people may look at NA sales and consider it bad, but Sony mostly looks at it from a worldwide point of view (like most publishers).

All I'm really asking for is what the Japan store has as far as Square Enix, Capcom, and Konami games are concerned.

And maybe it shouldn't be about pure profit, but about pleasing your fans and the people who paid hard earned money for your system.
In Japan, licensing isn't AS complicated since most of those games were made in Japan, where they have everything in place (there are also various people who translated within the U.S., who don't have to be considered when bringing a download to Japan). Japan isn't exactly sue happy like NA either (where people even sue for fast food restaurants making them fat).

I'm honestly mixed about PS1 downloads. Keep in mind for many years, PS1 was my favorite console (and still has some of my favorite games of all time). I have tons of OPM, PS Underground, etc. demo disks sitting around. I'd say I roughly enjoyed most of the games back when I got the disks. Now when I try playing many of those games, I start to wonder what I was thinking, because they just don't hold up well. Many PS1 games suffer from sloppy controls, due to their being a divide in the market (some had an analog controller, some didn't) and many have some graphic issues. Mostly the stuff which held up for me was 2D PS1 games or a few RPGs/shooters (vertical and side-scrolling).

Unfortunately, whatever SCEA puts up, they aren't just going to put up niche games, because they didn't sell too well years ago (so they will assume they won't sell well). They are more likely to pick games like a Need for Speed caliber, which sold well, but may not hold up too great. I know some would like Intelligent Qube up, but I can pretty much guarantee SCEA wouldn't even consider that game due to selling bad years ago. SCEA is the type of publisher who looks at games where if they see it selling well, they want to publish it. If they see something as not selling well, they aren't going to bother with it (One friend of mine at SCEA told me certain games almost got passed up because of that very reason), like with some JRPGs (which is why XSEED published Wild Arms instead and why Coded Soul PSP never came stateside). SCEA is heavily considered about the profit something can make (and part of the reason they don't bother with PS1 downloads on top of licensing, just not enough profit since the main people who would buy them are the hardcore).
 
I smell my own farts, they are awesome. While this happens I am always wearing a monocle.


I'm going to go buy RE5 now, so I can come home and shoot some zombies in the face.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Me? I'd call it "taste." Assuming mine is more sophisticated than anothers assumes (1) that taste is something that can be objectively measured, and (2) categories of "high culture" and "low culture" exist.

Which is a sham, and lame, and worst of all, pretentious. Do you really *need* to define your tastes as "sophisticated"? Are they, really? Compared to what?

If you think you're more "sophisticated" because you like Stone beers instead of Pabst Blue Ribbon, then you've misplaced yourself in American culture, because you're mistaking your position as a cultural *consumer* for a position as a cultural *ambassador/producer*.

When I think of "high culture," I think of the trend in the post-WWII era, back when refrigerators were becoming household appliances. Like Blu-Ray players, they appeared in wealthy folks' homes first and most prominently. So wealthy folks devised (not intentionally, mind) foods that would show off the fact that they had a refrigerator, and were, therefore, wealthy and of high-class.

What awesome treats did we get from that?

JELLO MEAT MOLDS.

Tip yer teacup towards that'un, fancy lad.[/QUOTE]


Again, all I've every said was WHAT I PERSONALLY ENJOY. Never that any of that stuff made me better or more sophisticated. I just post about what I like, my opinions on stuff etc. That's the sole purpose of forums for me. But I never brag or say I'm more sophisticated--I just like talking about my hobbies and interest and reading about others.

But you're over-thinking it/reading to much into it and getting your sociologist panties into a bunch. :D Sophisticated was just the word that came to mind, and seemed appropriate to describing more refined/expensive tastes--but I meant no value/class judgment by it.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Again, all I've every said was WHAT I PERSONALLY ENJOY. Never that any of that stuff made me better or more sophisticated. I just post about what I like, my opinions on stuff etc. That's the sole purpose of forums for me. But I never brag or say I'm more sophisticated--I just like talking about my hobbies and interest and reading about others.

But you're over-thinking it/reading to much into it and getting your sociologist panties into a bunch. :D Sophisticated was just the word that came to mind, and seemed appropriate to describing more refined/expensive tastes--but I meant no value/class judgment by it.[/QUOTE]

Of course you were talking about what you personally enjoy. I would never mistake you for anyone who could hold a conversation beyond your own two eyes.

But let me point out what you did say you didn't say:

[quote name='dmaul1114']But I never brag or say I'm more sophisticated[/QUOTE]

[quote name='dmaul1114']I think it's just being older (30), busier and tired/burnt out more often. That and part of it is just more sophisticated tastes with age and often getting more enjoyment out of watching a great film or reading a great book than playing a great game.[/QUOTE]

Just usin' your words, darlin'.

Now if you'll pardon me, I've got to shout for jeeves to bring my 15-year aged Scotch and monastery-made blue stilton cheese. I'm dyin' to play "Boom Blox."

As for generalizing "age" with "sophistication," I have one recommendation. Find a "Golden Corral," walk in for half a minute, and tell me how many sophisticated folks you see in there. ;)
 
[quote name='Azumangaman']Mana, you're a nice guy, but you need to stop. You can't keep defending Sony.
Let's be honest. They're failing.

Anyway, I'M SEEING U2 WHEN THEY COME TO TORONTO.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/QUOTE]

wow, just plain wrong. Just wrong.

U2...hehe
 
[quote name='Maklershed']I love my PS3 but I gotta say I'm worried ...

Year over Year change
Wii = 432k - 753k = +75%
360 = 255k - 391k = +56%
PS3 = 281k - 276k = -2%[/QUOTE]

Hmm, according to my charts. . . :whistle2:k

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I think your info is wrong.
 
TheManaKnight - what would you do if Sony called it a day and surrendered to the obviously superior Microsoft Xbox 360 gaming console and the Nintendo Wii family activity?
 
[quote name='Jest']Azu, fuck U2 and flip that ticket. Suddenly dollars, hundreds of them![/QUOTE]

Plus, U2 sucks ass now anyway. Make that money, son!

HELLO HELLOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Of course you were talking about what you personally enjoy. I would never mistake you for anyone who could hold a conversation beyond your own two eyes.
[/quote]

And you do any differently. All you ever do is get on your soap box and berate others here for their opinions/views for the most part. It's a web forum. Most everyone is here to spout off their own opinions. You're the last person that should be calling anyone pretentious or pompous.

Just usin' your words, darlin'.

I said I didn't purposely mean to make claims of superiority. Do I think Stone beer is more sophisticated than Pabst? Sure. Is a good, serious movie, or indie film or foreign film or documentary more sophisticated that Live Free or Die hard? Definitely. Is sushi more sophisiticated than McDonalds? Absolutely.

But there's no superiority there. Everyone should do what makes them happy as life is short and that's all that matters. And it would take a pretty foolish person to make claims of superiority based on their hobbies and tastes.

Yes I'd say the person that likes fine beer/wine, ethnic food and art flicks has more sophisticated/refined tastes that the person that drinks Bud Light, watches Rambo and who's idea of a great meal out is Applebees. But I wouldn't say the person is superior or make any other kind of value judgment.

As for generalizing "age" with "sophistication," I have one recommendation. Find a "Golden Corral," walk in for half a minute, and tell me how many sophisticated folks you see in there. ;)

Oh there's more to it than aging for sure. For me it was aging, education and moving from a rural area to the city and getting more exposure to culture.

Anyway, I'm tired of listening to all your bullshit sociological views on crap so I'm done reading and responding to your posts. Good luck on your job hunt. Spending less time pontificating on here and more time beefing up your CV would be a good start.
 
[quote name='Jesus_S_Preston']You know what's less fun than RE5? Applying for college scholarships and loans![/QUOTE]

naw....RE5 is more boring and less fun
 
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