Ghost in the Shell is awesome is it not?

If you are talking about Stand Alone Complex on Cartoon Network I just started getting into it recently. It's really cool IMO.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Talking to yourself, I'd say it's very sad but I suppose I have no room to talk.[/QUOTE]

Wtf are you talking about?

[quote name='GuilewasNK']If you are talking about Stand Alone Complex on Cartoon Network I just started getting into it recently. It's really cool IMO.[/QUOTE]


Ya, It's awesome right? Stand Alond Complex and the Movies are just amazing.
 
I don't really have a favorite character yet since I am just getting into it but I really like the lead voice actress and the art design.
 
I didn't like either movies. But if I had to choose Innocence was the better one. So I have no favorite characters.
 
[quote name='StealthySeal']stop with all the topics dude[/QUOTE]
naw this guys different from the last guy, but they got the same avatars
 
[quote name='Ozzkev55']naw this guys different from the last guy, but they got the same avatars[/QUOTE]


It's my friend...lol I stole his avatar.
 
Stand Alone Complex has become my favourite anime series of late. Not many eps left until the season break now, though.
 
[quote name='Teh Quake MAker']Ya, Sac is awesome. MY favorite char is Major..She Rox Punk ass. :)[/QUOTE]

You mean Motoko Kusanagi
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']SAC is just so polished. I don't know how else to put it.[/QUOTE]

Well it ought to be...the budget was about the highest ever for an anime series IIRC.
 
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[quote name='Ozzkev55']naw this guys different from the last guy, but they got the same avatars[/QUOTE]

Wrong, it's the same guy. Take a good long look at his signature.

That, and the IPs are the same.
 
I've just been getting into SAC and I love it. My favorite character is Motoko (as you can probably tell from my avatar).
 
[quote name='Rig']I don't like Ghost in the Shell. Haven't seen the one on television though.[/QUOTE]

I thought the movie was only okay too, but for some reason I really like Stand Alone Complex.
 
Overhyped to the extreme. Show was only created because the movie was so 'popular'. It was a good movie but I have seen better that should be adapted into anime. Maybe this is just my opinion.
 
It's alright but there have been many places where they threw in a plot twist for no apparent reason or payoff. For instance, they had an episode where, sixteen years earlier, the teenage daughter of a wealthy industrialist who pioneered much of the brain linking technology common in the series was kidnapped by a radical group with a giant bug up their ass about this. She was never recovered but then recent pictures turn up showing she is still with the group and does not appear to have aged a single day. The girl turns out to be the leader of the group and is the daughter of the kidnap victim. But in a bit of inexplicable nonsense the vitim herself now appears to be in her 80's rather than a mere 32 years old.

This is never resolved and just left to a big WTF.

The Major's lack of any history is annoying. In the original movie it was understood she had a completely artificial body but still a human brain. The SAC series had dropped a few line suggesting even her brain is disposable and that she's comfortable altering her memories and just about every aspect of herself as needed. Was there ever a real person there or is she entirely a creation of Section 9. There doesn't seem to be any history to her before S9 nor any interests outside of her work.

If she was born as a human what motivated her to completely dispose of her original body, a fairly radical choice. Did she have severe birth defects or crippling trauma. Was she the ultimate anorexic, disposing of her whole carcass in favor of one unaffected by caloric excess? THere is a lot to explore there but she remains a cipher with barely a personality. She's pretty to look at but the least interesting person in the series. The Tachikomas are far more engaging. We get to know them far more as people than the Major.
 
[quote name='epobirs']It's alright but there have been many places where they threw in a plot twist for no apparent reason or payoff. For instance, they had an episode where, sixteen years earlier, the teenage daughter of a wealthy industrialist who pioneered much of the brain linking technology common in the series was kidnapped by a radical group with a giant bug up their ass about this. She was never recovered but then recent pictures turn up showing she is still with the group and does not appear to have aged a single day. The girl turns out to be the leader of the group and is the daughter of the kidnap victim. But in a bit of inexplicable nonsense the vitim herself now appears to be in her 80's rather than a mere 32 years old.

This is never resolved and just left to a big WTF.

The Major's lack of any history is annoying. In the original movie it was understood she had a completely artificial body but still a human brain. The SAC series had dropped a few line suggesting even her brain is disposable and that she's comfortable altering her memories and just about every aspect of herself as needed. Was there ever a real person there or is she entirely a creation of Section 9. There doesn't seem to be any history to her before S9 nor any interests outside of her work.

If she was born as a human what motivated her to completely dispose of her original body, a fairly radical choice. Did she have severe birth defects or crippling trauma. Was she the ultimate anorexic, disposing of her whole carcass in favor of one unaffected by caloric excess? THere is a lot to explore there but she remains a cipher with barely a personality. She's pretty to look at but the least interesting person in the series. The Tachikomas are far more engaging. We get to know them far more as people than the Major.[/QUOTE]

For starters they explained at the end of that episode that the girl aged much quicker than normal thanks to special cybernetic experiments that she was used in by her father's company. And I agree the Major's character is maybe a little too mysterious to the point where you don't really get to know her. But they do allude on more than one occasion to her having to use a fully cybernetic body at a very young age because of some kind of accident, so she was in fact human at some point. Also, there are various tiny moments where they go briefly into her personal life (like her meeting with her "girlfriends"), but I think they intentionally don't get too into it because her character is supposed to be very serious and deep into her work.
 
[quote name='epobirs']It's alright but there have been many places where they threw in a plot twist for no apparent reason or payoff. For instance, they had an episode where, sixteen years earlier, the teenage daughter of a wealthy industrialist who pioneered much of the brain linking technology common in the series was kidnapped by a radical group with a giant bug up their ass about this. She was never recovered but then recent pictures turn up showing she is still with the group and does not appear to have aged a single day. The girl turns out to be the leader of the group and is the daughter of the kidnap victim. But in a bit of inexplicable nonsense the vitim herself now appears to be in her 80's rather than a mere 32 years old.

This is never resolved and just left to a big WTF.

The Major's lack of any history is annoying. In the original movie it was understood she had a completely artificial body but still a human brain. The SAC series had dropped a few line suggesting even her brain is disposable and that she's comfortable altering her memories and just about every aspect of herself as needed. Was there ever a real person there or is she entirely a creation of Section 9. There doesn't seem to be any history to her before S9 nor any interests outside of her work.

If she was born as a human what motivated her to completely dispose of her original body, a fairly radical choice. Did she have severe birth defects or crippling trauma. Was she the ultimate anorexic, disposing of her whole carcass in favor of one unaffected by caloric excess? THere is a lot to explore there but she remains a cipher with barely a personality. She's pretty to look at but the least interesting person in the series. The Tachikomas are far more engaging. We get to know them far more as people than the Major.[/QUOTE]

That's why you all who are watching the Adult Swim version are deprived. As pointed out by Duo, they explained what happened to the little girl. And more of Kusanagi's background is explained in later episodes as well as the 2nd season. Everyone who's been watching the first season (aka 1st Gig) have another full season to see (2nd Gig). The Laughing Man is only the icing on the cake. The Particularist Eleven are a bigger enigma. Also, if you've watched the Japanese intro (I haven't seen the Adult Swim version), they show partly why Kusanagi is a ghost in the shell.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']That's why you all who are watching the Adult Swim version are deprived. As pointed out by Duo, they explained what happened to the little girl. And more of Kusanagi's background is explained in later episodes as well as the 2nd season. Everyone who's been watching the first season (aka 1st Gig) have another full season to see (2nd Gig). The Laughing Man is only the icing on the cake. The Particularist Eleven are a bigger enigma. Also, if you've watched the Japanese intro (I haven't seen the Adult Swim version), they show partly why Kusanagi is a ghost in the shell.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure they left most of the 1st season intact...I've since seen most of 2nd gig just recently and I've only seen the first season via Adult Swim and the 1st two dvds, but I don't think they made any alterations (besides ADR and voice work). I think epobirs just didn't pick up on the key points for what he was talking about.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']I'm pretty sure they left most of the 1st season intact...I've since seen most of 2nd gig just recently and I've only seen the first season via Adult Swim and the 1st two dvds, but I don't think they made any alterations (besides ADR and voice work). I think epobirs just didn't pick up on the key points for what he was talking about.[/QUOTE]

Did they also show the Tachikoma Specials as well on AS? Those were quite funny shorts with bits of intelligent philosophy sparsely spread throughout.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Did they also show the Tachikoma Specials as well on AS? Those were quite funny shorts with bits of intelligent philosophy sparsely spread throughout.[/QUOTE]

Ah good point I do think they cut those...I think I remember one though but maybe I'm the one missing things now.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Ah good point I do think they cut those...I think I remember one though but maybe I'm the one missing things now.[/QUOTE]

That would be bad if they did. Once again, the Adult Swimmers are missing out.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']That would be bad if they did. Once again, the Adult Swimmers are missing out.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, totally. They'll miss out on such awesome plot points as mass naked child events that only the fansub viewers get to see.
 
Import dvd is availible with english subtitles, i've seen them at animenation and at some videostores for a while and all of those are usually uncut.
 
[quote name='j.elles']Import dvd is availible with english subtitles, i've seen them at animenation and at some videostores for a while and all of those are usually uncut.[/QUOTE]

Yeah... but they're full of bad... and I mean BAD engrish. I've got one of the older import versions and they just aren't able to translate japanese idioms and memes very well into passable english. Sometimes they even confuse Batou with Togusa.
 
The only edits on the AS showing of SAC so far are the Tachikomatic Days/Texan mini-fridge shorts, an instance of pornography reflecting in eyeglasses and (IIRC) one instance of nudity in Jungle Cruise before one of the murders (which seems baffling, since the murders themselves were left fully in tact.) So, plot-wise, there's nothing taken out and while the shorts at the end would have been nice, they've got to keep some incentive to buy the DVDs.
 
[quote name='jmcc']The only edits on the AS showing of SAC so far are the Tachikomatic Days/Texan mini-fridge shorts, an instance of pornography reflecting in eyeglasses and (IIRC) one instance of nudity in Jungle Cruise before one of the murders (which seems baffling, since the murders themselves were left fully in tact.) So, plot-wise, there's nothing taken out and while the shorts at the end would have been nice, they've got to keep some incentive to buy the DVDs.[/QUOTE]

Ok, that makes sense. Why give ppl short mini movies when they can just include it in the eventual DVD release?
 
Are the Dled versions uncut also?


[quote name='Ledhed']Wrong, it's the same guy. Take a good long look at his signature.

That, and the IPs are the same.[/QUOTE]


Wtf are you talking about? I only have one acct on CAG, adn this is it. The other guy is my best friend. Two completely different Ip addresses in case you haven't noticed.
 
It's a very well made Anime, The original movie was amazing and an instant classic (just like akira). The 2nd GITS movie wasn't that great, 90% of the movie didn't even have the major in it and the story/plot wasn't that great either but good nevertheless. Stand Alone complex is a great series, and actually gives justice to the manga. As the story goes on, it gets better and better and smarter and smarter anyone that likes anime should watch/own SAC. Oh, and look at the sig..my favorite character (s) are the Tachikoma mini tanks.
 
[quote name='Teh Quake MAker']Are the Dled versions uncut also?[/QUOTE]

Yes, but the US DVD versions are out for some of season 1 and they're not bad. I don't mind the dubbing but watching it in japanese w/ english subs is still the way to go. If you don't want to wait, get the DL'ed version to tide you over until the DVDs come out. There's only 6 more episodes on season 2.
 
[quote name='Teh Quake MAker']Alright, so if I buy the Dvds I can get them uncut, instead of the lousy craptasticalness of Adult Swim?[/QUOTE]

Yeah but you'll have to wait. The Adult Swim is by far the furthest (storywise) along (with the exception of the fansubs and imports) unlike the US DVDs. The imports are shit so your best bet is fansubs for now until the US DVDs catch up but the way they're going, all of season one won't be out till the end of the year and you'll have to suffer through repeats throughout summer until season 2 comes out on AS and another 6-12 months for DVD.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Yeah but you'll have to wait. The Adult Swim is by far the furthest (storywise) along (with the exception of the fansubs and imports) unlike the US DVDs. The imports are shit so your best bet is fansubs for now until the US DVDs catch up but the way they're going, all of season one won't be out till the end of the year and you'll have to suffer through repeats throughout summer until season 2 comes out on AS and another 6-12 months for DVD.[/QUOTE]

Actially it's not that long of a wait...the last DVD for season 1 is out in July and I think 2nd Gig DVDs are supposed to start popping up in October.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Actially it's not that long of a wait...the last DVD for season 1 is out in July and I think 2nd Gig DVDs are supposed to start popping up in October.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, I might consider actually picking these up...
 
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