Hard to find games to be on the lookout for

[quote name='dinovelvet'][quote name='sying']Super Mario Brothers for the NES, super duper rare, get one if you find one ;)

But seriously, the 1991 Nintendo World Championships Tournament Cart. The Holy Grail of rare games, especially the gold ones. Have fetched over a grand on Ebay[/quote]

Pah...you call that a holy grail? THIS is a rare game :p

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=8131610439&rd=1

Anyway, about this topic in general, its important to make the distinction between Rare and In-Demand. People always say the Final Fantasy games for the NES and SNES are "rare" but there are about 50 copies of those on ebay at any one time, whereas genuinely hard to find titles like Super Noah's Ark 3D don't usually go for much.
But to throw another title in, try F-1 2001 for the Xbox, it seems to be creeping up there in price, currently fetching 35-40 for a sealed copy. Also someone already mentioned Resident Evil 2 & 3 for the Gamecube, I have a feeling that Code Veronica X will soon be joining them in the high price range, sealed copies are fetching in the 40s right now.[/quote]

The Holy Grail of games is this one game that coca cola sold out of their magazines around 1985 I believe. There are only 500 in existence, and most are unaccounted for I believe. I don't emember the title of it. I hadn't known that about Code Veronica X for GCN. I picked it up at the CC sale for $5 and was going to open it. Maybe now I'll hang on to it a little longer.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers'] I hadn't known that about Code Veronica X for GCN. I picked it up at the CC sale for $5 and was going to open it. Maybe now I'll hang on to it a little longer.[/quote]

Yep, right after the CC sale started, there were tons of sealed Gamecube Code Veronicas on ebay, you could get them for $10-$15, but now they're getting $35-$40, and it seems to be going up and up.
 
[quote name='CaptainObviousXl']well i never thought Gauntlet: DL for gc was rare, but i know that a sealed copy of ff7 non-gh is worth over $100[/quote]

I'll see if I can find out more info on Gauntlet, as for NON-Gh and sealed stuff, I'm not sure if I should bother listing them or not? I know I have castlevania non gh listed but I'm thinking of taking it off. What do you guys think?
 
[quote name='jimbodan']If you look on half.com or ebay then no game is rare since just about every game except the absolute rarest of the rare can be found there.[/quote]

Using this logic, 95% of released games are rare, because I can't find them at the local B&M stores. That's real fuzzy logic.

If you can waltz onto Half.com at almost any time and get it for less than $50 (seeing as how it's MSRP is $70 or more), I can't see how you can call it rare. It appears there are a lot of copies in circulation, with just enough demand to keep it from going into the bargain bin.

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the local Wal-Mart had Arc the Lad Collection, but I'd bet a twenty that they ended up sending it back or doing whatever Wal-Mart does to games that won't sell. I recall seeing it in the display case and waiting for the price to drop.

But as stated before (and has come up in every single thread that discusses so-called 'rare' games), there is a significant difference between being rare (few copies produced) and being in demand.

Looking over this thread, a lot of the games mentioned aren't really rare. Culdcept is DEFINITELY not rare.
 
[quote name='PsyClerk'][quote name='jimbodan']If you look on half.com or ebay then no game is rare since just about every game except the absolute rarest of the rare can be found there.[/quote]

Using this logic, 95% of released games are rare, because I can't find them at the local B&M stores. That's real fuzzy logic.

If you can waltz onto Half.com at almost any time and get it for less than $50 (seeing as how it's MSRP is $70 or more), I can't see how you can call it rare. It appears there are a lot of copies in circulation, with just enough demand to keep it from going into the bargain bin.

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the local Wal-Mart had Arc the Lad Collection, but I'd bet a twenty that they ended up sending it back or doing whatever Wal-Mart does to games that won't sell. I recall seeing it in the display case and waiting for the price to drop.

But as stated before (and has come up in every single thread that discusses so-called 'rare' games), there is a significant difference between being rare (few copies produced) and being in demand.

Looking over this thread, a lot of the games mentioned aren't really rare. Culdcept is DEFINITELY not rare.[/quote]

I don't think you understand, E-Bay and Half.com have just about every game, so by your logic if I see a game on half.com or ebay it isn't rare? So I guess Fox Hunt for ps1 which Digitalpress.com has listed as an 8 in rarity isn't in fact rare at all because I see a copy for sale on ebay? Come on.

Unless I have been significantly misinformed Culdcept had a very low print #, which makes it rare, not nessecarily in demand or pricey, but rare.

Please, if you aren't going to contribute to this thread post elsewhere. If you want to critique everything then please provide some evidence to the contrary. I'll be more then happy to take anything off the list to that you prove to not be either rare (low print numbers, low numbers in circulation) or in demand (ps1 and previous games selling for at least 30).
 
[quote name='PhrozenFire']Thanks for answering guys, and for making that list since I haven't checked here in a while.[/quote]

No problem, I'm going to TRY to get some prices up tonight, but we'll see
 
[quote name='jimbodan']I don't think you understand, E-Bay and Half.com have just about every game, so by your logic if I see a game on half.com or ebay it isn't rare? So I guess Fox Hunt for ps1 which Digitalpress.com has listed as an 8 in rarity isn't in fact rare at all because I see a copy for sale on ebay? Come on.[/quote]

Makes as much sense as "if I don't see it at a B&M store, it's rare." Besides, that's not what I was getting at. If you see ONE copy on eBay, and only every so often, then it's relatively safe to assume it's a rare game. If on the other hand, I can jump on and find a half dozen copies or more at any given time...maybe not so rare.

B&M stores don't keep a game in stock forever, that's the point I was trying to make in my last post. Devil May Cry 2 isn't rare by a longshot, yet I'd have a hard time finding it, even searching my local EBs.

[quote name='jimbodan']Unless I have been significantly misinformed Culdcept had a very low print #, which makes it rare, not nessecarily in demand or pricey, but rare.[/quote]

Could have fooled me. I see multiple copies at all the EBs and the one GameStop I've visited lately. And since I can find it at a B&M...

[quote name='jimbodan']Please, if you aren't going to contribute to this thread post elsewhere. If you want to critique everything then please provide some evidence to the contrary. I'll be more then happy to take anything off the list to that you prove to not be either rare (low print numbers, low numbers in circulation) or in demand (ps1 and previous games selling for at least 30).[/quote]

Don't take my dissent personally (the whole 'post elsewhere' comment smacks of 'away with you, peon!' ). I just disagreed with how you explain 'rare' (and I still do), it's not like I questioned your parentage. Isn't trying to define 'rare' contributing to the OP? But if we're talking about in-demand (aka high dollar) games as well, then that changes things big time.

Now I have deja-vu from the other times this thread has happened, and I feel JSweeney approaching.
 
[quote name='PsyClerk'][quote name='jimbodan']I don't think you understand, E-Bay and Half.com have just about every game, so by your logic if I see a game on half.com or ebay it isn't rare? So I guess Fox Hunt for ps1 which Digitalpress.com has listed as an 8 in rarity isn't in fact rare at all because I see a copy for sale on ebay? Come on.[/quote]

Makes as much sense as "if I don't see it at a B&M store, it's rare." Besides, that's not what I was getting at. If you see ONE copy on eBay, and only every so often, then it's relatively safe to assume it's a rare game. If on the other hand, I can jump on and find a half dozen copies or more at any given time...maybe not so rare.

B&M stores don't keep a game in stock forever, that's the point I was trying to make in my last post. Devil May Cry 2 isn't rare by a longshot, yet I'd have a hard time finding it, even searching my local EBs.

[quote name='jimbodan']Unless I have been significantly misinformed Culdcept had a very low print #, which makes it rare, not nessecarily in demand or pricey, but rare.[/quote]

Could have fooled me. I see multiple copies at all the EBs and the one GameStop I've visited lately. And since I can find it at a B&M...

[quote name='jimbodan']Please, if you aren't going to contribute to this thread post elsewhere. If you want to critique everything then please provide some evidence to the contrary. I'll be more then happy to take anything off the list to that you prove to not be either rare (low print numbers, low numbers in circulation) or in demand (ps1 and previous games selling for at least 30).[/quote]

Don't take my dissent personally (the whole 'post elsewhere' comment smacks of 'away with you, peon!' ). I just disagreed with how you explain 'rare' (and I still do), it's not like I questioned your parentage. Isn't trying to define 'rare' contributing to the OP? But if we're talking about in-demand (aka high dollar) games as well, then that changes things big time.

Now I have deja-vu from the other times this thread has happened, and I feel JSweeney approaching.[/quote]

I'm done arguing with you. And yes I do take you're dissent personally since I know for a fact arc the lad collection is rare as is most all of working designs games. If you don't appreciate what I'm doing then don't look at it or follow it. If you want to actually contribute with something, then please feel free to to do so.
 
[quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='PhrozenFire']Thanks for answering guys, and for making that list since I haven't checked here in a while.[/quote]

No problem, I'm going to TRY to get some prices up tonight, but we'll see[/quote]

F this. All I'm going to get are people trying to argue with my definition of rare so screw it. God forbid they try and help. It's not worth it. Unless I have a drastic change of heart I'm not updating this.
 
[quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='PhrozenFire']Thanks for answering guys, and for making that list since I haven't checked here in a while.[/quote]

No problem, I'm going to TRY to get some prices up tonight, but we'll see[/quote]

F this. All I'm going to get are people trying to argue with my definition of rare so screw it. God forbid they try and help. It's not worth it. Unless I have a drastic change of heart I'm not updating this.[/quote]

Well, that is what happens when you use an arbitrary metric which you don't fully explain and reach a concensus on early in the thread.
 
klonoa ought to be moved up to the for sure section... it's very hard to find. and the klonoa 2 game for ps2 should be in the unsure one.... if i remember correctly its mighty hard to come buy complete
 
Oh yeah, I also wanted to add that Digital Press and Fatman Games (unsure about their integrity, they might just copy from Digital Press) both list Arc the Lad collection as rarity...2. That's not rare.

Also, had I not been flummoxed by a late night session of MK:Deception (damn you Mileena and your cheap healing ass!), I would have had the foresight to look it up, thus making my point in a less offensive manner. Apologies.
 
From my understanding these are the htf find games for the current gen systems, some older ones as well:

Gamecube:
Cubivore (10-15K sold)
NCAA College Basketball 2K3 (under 6K printed)
Summoner: A Goddess Reborn (10-15K printed if that)
Resident Evil 2 (just valued, over 35K sold)
Resident Evil 3 (just valued, over 40K sold)
Lost Kingdoms II (harder then expected to find)
Buffy: Chaos Bleeds (unusually low print)
Super Bust a Move 3000 (tough to find)

*note that PSO 1+2 original is worth nothing now and is not rare selling over 150K...ToS is fantastic but it sold 200K already, that = not rare by any means)

Xbox:
Fatal Frame (tough to find, sold like shit)
Jurassic Park: OG (not worth finding)
Steel Batallion Line of Contact (I think?)

PS2:
Fatal Frame (tough)
Fatal Frame 2: Crimson Butterfly (not hard to find but because of no price drop it sold poorly)
Forever Kingdom (never seen this in the flesh beyond my ebay copy)
Gitaroo Man (probably the toughest to find)
Rez (soon to be rereleased)
Grandia Xtreme (although I see it EVERYWHERE)
Sky Gunner (this seems to be pretty obscure)
Crimson Sea 2 (call it a hunch)
Tsugunai (tough to find)
Dual Hearts (pretty uncommon, not worth it really)
ZOE2 (high demand for this one)
Culdcept (meh on this game)

N64:
Rocket Robot on Wheels (so great)
Spacestation Silicon Valley (tough to find I think)
Goemons Great Adventure (GREAT game)
Worms Armaggedon
Starcraft 64 (worth a bit)
Ogre Battle 64
Indiana Jones (rental only)
Beast Wars (rental only)

DC:
Mars Matrix
Bangai-O
Gunbird 2
Giga Wing
Giga Wing 2
Red Dog
Cannon Spike (so overrated)
Project Justice
Confidential Mission
Dragonriders (shitty game though)
Midway Volume 2 (5000 print)

PS1:
Suikoden II
Valkyrie Profile
Rhapsody
Silent Bomber (9000 print)
Vanark
Hogs of War
Carnage Heart (tough as hell to find)
Aquanoughts Holiday
SOTN (original)
Saiyuki
Persona
Persona 2
Trap Gunner
Brigandine
Kartia
Einhander
Thunder Force V

so many others
 
I wonder if Thrill Kill for PS1 and Half-Life for Dreamcast could be considered rare. While they never went to retail, full copies were leaked to the net, and I actually have a working copy of Half-Life for Dreamcast..
 
If it's on the net, and didn't actually see production, I don't think you could call it rare. Unless there is some real prototype that got smuggled out of development (like with the original Earthbound NES game).

I think we had a thread a while back that said that Suikoden II was not really super rare, it's just the people who have copies tend to not sell them (goes back to the in-demand thing). Listed at rarity 4 though. That being said, if you see a decent copy for $40 or less, you are insane if you don't buy it

I believe one of the Namco Museum titles on PSX was pretty rare, Volume 3 I think. In fact, a couple of those in that series supposedly had below average print runs.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']How rare is the chuck wagon game from the Atari 2600?[/quote]

It is rare, but not as rare as its reputation claims...its listed as an 8/10 rarity; prices have dropped for it lately, it fetches around $80 right now.
 
I'd consider Steel Battalion in the rare-ish column, just because it was $199 and has the huge controller and no one seems to keep it in stock anymore.
 
Demand is more important in figuring a price than rarity.
A highly demanded game can command a high price without being rare.
Rarity coupled with high demand will lead to even higher prices.

Most of the games people throw on lists such as this are hardly rare. Most often, they are highly demanded games who don't have highly volatile markets (that is, the people that buy them hold them rather than dump them back into the market until they can get a price they see as acceptable for them. Hence the higher price for things like the SNES square games, etc.

Heck, look at them on Digitpress.
FF2,FF3 and Secret of Mana are all listed with a scarcity of 2, yet they always get lumped into these lists.
 
Yager is not rare, it has not yet been released. It should be coming out sometime this month (finaly).

Air Force Delta Storm is not rare. It was originally released in a limited quanity but after close to a year of being the rarest xbox game it was rereleased new for 29.99 retail. The value of the first run dropped (acording to ebay demand) from a sealed copy going for $200 to $30.
 
Sorry but RE2+3 are in fact rare. They've only had one print run and have since then nearly disapeared from store shelves. Yes some people can still find the occasional new copy at their local EB or GS, but the same could be said fro gitaroo man and rez.
 
How rare is Moto GP2? My cousin gave me it today because he didn't play it anymore.. he wanted me to do trades with it.
 
If you're looking for Jurassic Park Operation Genesis (XBox), check TRU. The Union Square store had a ton with the green tag ($29.99).
 
Really kicking myself for trading Einhander along with three other games or what not for some PS1 game I can't even remember a while back.
 
Has anybody mentioned the euro version of Kizuna Tag Encounter for the Neo-Geo AES?

There are only 4 known copies, the last one sold for $12,500!!!

Beat that Nintendo world championship cart!
 
[quote name='exRounder']Really kicking myself for trading Einhander along with three other games or what not for some PS1 game I can't even remember a while back.[/quote]

Yeah well I traded in tactics ogre psx (complete) for 15 store credit a couple of years.
 
Yeah well I traded in tactics ogre psx (complete) for 15 store credit a couple of years.[/quote]

i think you mean ogre tactics,not the other way around. there was one of these at the GS i work at for $34.99 sunday night since we did inventory that night.
 
Kizuna Tag Encounter? That's nothing compared to the grand master of all rare and expensive games..



NFL2K3. Beat that! I hear it reaches upwards of three dollars, occasionally!
 
[quote name='slidecage']Why hasnt none said

Panzer dragoon saga
Shining force3
Winning post
ALL ON Saturn

ANd the game my cousin stepped on and broke and made me cry
SHINING FORCE CD for the Sega cd[/quote]

Damn, I was begining to think there was no love for Saturn! ;)

BTW Don't Forget:
Mystaria (Changed to mystic heroes for a trademark violation)
Burning Rangers
Albert's Oddessey
Legend of Oasis
Astal
Sillioete Mirage
Dracula X
Guardian Heroes
Radiant Silvergun
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']Sorry but RE2+3 are in fact rare. They've only had one print run and have since then nearly disapeared from store shelves. Yes some people can still find the occasional new copy at their local EB or GS, but the same could be said fro gitaroo man and rez.[/quote]
EDIT: this is the part where i realize your talking about the gamecube versions that relased at ripoff prices and disapperared.

i just saw like 5 of each today at gamestop and gamerush, along with some directors cut of RE1. plus another non-gamerush blockbuster has a copy or two of re3 new.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']I'd consider Steel Battalion in the rare-ish column, just because it was $199 and has the huge controller and no one seems to keep it in stock anymore.[/quote]

just found out my gamestop had one used. wonder if they'll match my gamerush coupon.....
 
Is Breath of Fire IV rare? I got it for $12.99 at GS today. I also picked up Front Mission 3 for $19.99. Both were disc only.

I also saw Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth at a local Gamerush. I know it's rare, so I can pick it up if someone wants to trade.
 
they had about 7 pso 1 and 2 for gc at media play today.


i was wondering if P.N. 03 is hard to find... its the only place ive ever seen it.
 
Rhapsody... seriously I remember the first time I saw that game on ebay for over $100 and rising. It was then I realized there was a whole underground sub-culture of these collectors of rare games. I do happen to have a few of them though, including a sealed copy of Cubivore. Well, sealed at the moment, I plan on playing it. I got it for the same reason I got Space Station Silicon Valley years ago, and that was for the abstract concept value. Shame about SSSV though, my copy was glitched and I never got to see the good ending, because there was one gold statue that I could touch, but it wouldn't register as collected.
 
[quote name='biggestinuyashafan']Yeah well I traded in tactics ogre psx (complete) for 15 store credit a couple of years.[/quote]

i think you mean ogre tactics,not the other way around. there was one of these at the GS i work at for $34.99 sunday night since we did inventory that night.[/quote]

No its Tactics Ogre, but if you've got a complete copy at your store I'm interested.
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']Is Breath of Fire IV rare? I got it for $12.99 at GS today. I also picked up Front Mission 3 for $19.99. Both were disc only.

I also saw Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth at a local Gamerush. I know it's rare, so I can pick it up if someone wants to trade.[/quote]

The first two aren't that bad a find but aren't worth that much especially without thier cases, Blue Earth though is definatley worth something especially complete.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='kaji7p56']Is Breath of Fire IV rare? I got it for $12.99 at GS today. I also picked up Front Mission 3 for $19.99. Both were disc only.

I also saw Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth at a local Gamerush. I know it's rare, so I can pick it up if someone wants to trade.[/quote]

The first two aren't that bad a find but aren't worth that much especially without thier cases, Blue Earth though is definatley worth something especially complete.[/quote]

So, I paid too much? Is BoF IV a good game? I didn't buy them because they are rare, it's just a coincidence.

I'm not sure if Hoshigami was complete, or if it just had the manual.
 
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