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[quote name='RedvsBlue']Wait, 300 by this summer...[/quote]

Speaking of 300, I would like to see that on HD-DVD by this summer. :)

It's a Warner title, so maybe it will be one of those dual format ones they've been promising...
 
[quote name='Sporadic']And even better, Grindhouse is going to be an HD-DVD exclusive thanks to Weinstein.[/quote]

lol no thanks...

but i will take tmnt!!!!
 
[quote name='TheRock88']What's weird is that I tried looking for Smokin Aces at CC and they didnt have it yet they had a couple of copies of Feast there.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the heads up, I'm gonna check circuit city tomorrow now.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']And even better, Grindhouse is going to be an HD-DVD exclusive thanks to Weinstein.[/QUOTE]

Awesome. Can the same be said of the uncut version of Kill Vill Vol.1?
 
Hey yall for orders OVER $50 YOU CAN STACK RNDIS on WBWEL for the old 28% again
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.....Looks like you have to do RNDIS 1st then enter WBWEL.......Happy shopping. Thanks to sumdeus over at DVD talk for posting this....This is especially for people who misssed it the 1st time around...
 
[quote name='guyver2077']lol no thanks...

but i will take tmnt!!!![/quote]

Can't wait till TMNT on HD DVD, although i hasn't been announced, I'm sure its a no brainer considering the strong support from Weinstein.
 
300 is rumored for August. Can't wait for Grindhouse, saw it recently, loved it. Too bad it's not doing so hot at the box office. Great reviews, but I guess everyone is too lazy to sit through a 3 hour movie unless it has hobits.
 
Nice to see them hit that 100k mark without the benefit of the 360 add-on numbers. The general upward trend in HD DVD title sales over the past 3 weeks or should easily shut down that "HD DVD is already dead" nonsense.

I really wish they had included a $50 or $100 off coupon or rebate with Elite for the HD DVD add-on. Would probably nudge sales a bit.

Something to keep in mind for theatrical releases that should/should not be exclusive - the studio that puts out a film in the theater isn't always the one that puts it on video. So while theoretically Grindhouse and TMNT should be HD DVD exclusive, we don't know for sure until they are announced.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Something to keep in mind for theatrical releases that should/should not be exclusive - the studio that puts out a film in the theater isn't always the one that puts it on video. So while theoretically Grindhouse and TMNT should be HD DVD exclusive, we don't know for sure until they are announced.[/quote]

What? I know this is true for other countries but I've never heard of that here. Do you have any examples of movies that released on theaters from one studio and DVD on another?
 
Not off the top of my head. I haven't seen it happen that often (at least for the films I'm interested in), I'm just mentioning it as a possiblity.

There is a thread at AVS here that lists recent/upcoming releases and what format they are likely to show up in, by the way.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Not off the top of my head. I haven't seen it happen that often (at least for the films I'm interested in), I'm just mentioning it as a possiblity.

There is a thread at AVS here that lists recent/upcoming releases and what format they are likely to show up in, by the way.[/quote]
Thanks for the link, even though its speculative, It would be cool if you add it to the OP ;)

EDIT: I see that they have TMNT as WB and not Weinstein so that really does prove your point...
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']300 is rumored for August. Can't wait for Grindhouse, saw it recently, loved it. Too bad it's not doing so hot at the box office. Great reviews, but I guess everyone is too lazy to sit through a 3 hour movie unless it has hobits.[/quote]

im too lazy to see any 3 hr movie at the theatres..heck i struggle watching them at home

wtf.. why is turtles in on warner? i was hoping for the exclusive..

heck atleast i dont have to worry about a combo disk sicne warner doesnt use them i think
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Something to keep in mind for theatrical releases that should/should not be exclusive - the studio that puts out a film in the theater isn't always the one that puts it on video. So while theoretically Grindhouse and TMNT should be HD DVD exclusive, we don't know for sure until they are announced.[/QUOTE]

I heard from a pretty good source that Grindhouse is going to have a day & date release with the DVD version some time in September or October.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']I heard from a pretty good source that Grindhouse is going to have a day & date release with the DVD version some time in September or October.[/QUOTE]

I have also heard that the movies will be split up, added to, and sold separately.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']im too lazy to see any 3 hr movie at the theatres..heck i struggle watching them at home

wtf.. why is turtles in on warner? i was hoping for the exclusive..

heck atleast i dont have to worry about a combo disk sicne warner doesnt use them i think[/quote]

They got THD (Total HD [BD/HD]) coming up...
 
[quote name='guyver2077']im too lazy to see any 3 hr movie at the theatres..heck i struggle watching them at home

wtf.. why is turtles in on warner? i was hoping for the exclusive..

heck atleast i dont have to worry about a combo disk sicne warner doesnt use them i think[/QUOTE]

Warner makes several combo discs, in fact many of their recent releases were combos, and as mentioned they have the Total HD format coming out in a few months (supposedly) so either way you are pretty much looking at a combo disc.
 
[quote name='Ph8te']Hey yall for orders OVER $50 YOU CAN STACK RNDIS on WBWEL for the old 28% again
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.....Looks like you have to do RNDIS 1st then enter WBWEL.......Happy shopping. Thanks to sumdeus over at DVD talk for posting this....This is especially for people who misssed it the 1st time around...[/QUOTE]

Thanks. :D
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I have also heard that the movies will be split up, added to, and sold separately.[/QUOTE]

I was hearing a boxset but it's wouldn't surprise me if they did that.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Thanks for the link, even though its speculative, It would be cool if you add it to the OP ;)[/QUOTE]

Done.

If any of you guys pick up Planet Earth let us know what you think. I'm almost certainly going to pick it up, but I'm trying to hold off for a bit because my wallet is hurting between the "buy HD DVDs day" thing and Guitar Hero 2.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Done.

If any of you guys pick up Planet Earth let us know what you think. I'm almost certainly going to pick it up, but I'm trying to hold off for a bit because my wallet is hurting between the "buy HD DVDs day" thing and Guitar Hero 2.[/QUOTE]

I have it on preorder and should get it and Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind in on the 23rd.

I'll be sure to type up a little something on it when it comes in.
 
I'm going to try to get Weinstein to release the "Infernal Affairs" trilogy on HD DVD here as well as "The Protector". Am I the only one here interested in seeing both on HD DVD?
 
strange.. im looking around on the wb site.. i added a few 19.99 hd dvd;'s and noticed that they were showing up in cart for 16.96..

then i added both codes and now each movie is showing up for 14.36 in my cart + free ship 4 $ tax sucks though

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1 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (HD) HD-DVD $14.36
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1 Training Day (HD) HD-DVD $14.36
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1 Troy (HD) HD-DVD $14.36
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1 Swordfish (HD) HD-DVD $14.37
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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Product Subtotal:[/FONT] [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]$57.45[/FONT] Tax: $4.02 Select Shipping & Handling Method: Standard - FREE
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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Order Total:[/FONT] [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]$61.47[/FONT]

$60 just seems a lot to spend on old movies
 
[quote name='Sarang01']I'm going to try to get Weinstein to release the "Infernal Affairs" trilogy on HD DVD here as well as "The Protector". Am I the only one here interested in seeing both on HD DVD?[/QUOTE]

No, I would totally buy both Infernal Affairs and Tom Yum Goong.

Problem is, I'm not sure that the masters of either would look or sound that great to begin with.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']strange.. im looking around on the wb site.. i added a few 19.99 hd dvd;'s and noticed that they were showing up in cart for 16.96..

then i added both codes and now each movie is showing up for 14.36 in my cart + free ship 4 $ tax sucks though

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1 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (HD) HD-DVD $14.36
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1 Training Day (HD) HD-DVD $14.36
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1 Troy (HD) HD-DVD $14.36
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1 Swordfish (HD) HD-DVD $14.37
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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Product Subtotal:[/FONT] [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]$57.45[/FONT] Tax: $4.02 Select Shipping & Handling Method: Standard - FREE
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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Order Total:[/FONT] [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]$61.47[/FONT]

$60 just seems a lot to spend on old movies[/QUOTE]

Just imagine if those were Fox Catalog Blu-Ray titles..that would be $160 MSRP!
 
Blood Diamond HD DVD to dwarf Blu-Ray version in features for the same price!

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...r_Brings_Blood_Diamond_to_Blu-ray,_HD_DVD/583

Unlike the studio's usual policy of releasing identical Blu-ray and HD DVD releases of a title on the same date, Warner will instead debut 'Blood Diamond' about a month apart, with the Blu-ray hitting stores first on June 5, followed by the HD DVD on July 2.

What's more, while both versions will share identical tech specs, including matching 1080p transfers, supplemental content will be far from identical. The basic suite of extras are the same, including a filmmaker's commentary, four featurettes and a music video; however, the HD DVD will include a raft of exclusive cutting-edge features not included on the Blu-ray release.

The HD DVD of 'Blood Diamond' is the first announced next-gen title to include web-enabled extras, including allowing viewers to use their players to offer opinions in Warner's online polls, as well as view other special features such as maps of conflict pertaining to war-torn areas in Africa.

Furthermore, the HD DVD boasts an In-Movie Experience (IME) video commentary with additional behind-the-scenes and interview footage. And for the first time on 'Blood Diamond,' Warner will include the new Focus Points feature that takes the viewer to exciting in-depth featurettes and production diaries.

Despite the considerable differences between the Blu-ray and HD DVD, Warner has set an identical list price of $28.99 for each.

While the impetus for this decision almost certainly stems from the delayed release of Blu-ray's BD-Java authoring environment, which makes advanced features such as IME impossible on current Blu-ray releases, in the past (with such IME-enhanced titles as 'The Matrix Trilogy' and "Batman Begins') Warner has chosen to simply withhold their release releasing a Blu-ray version until a future date. Their decision to downgrade the Blu-ray for 'Blood Diamond' instead is sure to generate controversy.
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HD DVD exclusive features - same price as BD version - $28.95
- Internet/web features - online polls, related maps & resources, clip sharing, more
- In Movie Experience PIP video commentary, behind the scenes, additional footage
- Focus Points - in-depth featurettes & production diaries
 
Yeah, I saw that. I'll gladly wait the extra month for a more robust disc. Excited to see what people do with online features in the future.

I've got to wonder if some people at Warner are just flat-out getting pissed at the Blu-Ray side for dragging their heels on stuff and holding up their Total HD initiative.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Yeah, I saw that. I'll gladly wait the extra month for a more robust disc. Excited to see what people do with online features in the future.

I've got to wonder if some people at Warner are just flat-out getting pissed at the Blu-Ray side for dragging their heels on stuff and holding up their Total HD initiative.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, the Matrix announcement and the fact that there are still certain WB titles missing on blu ray seem to be good evidence to further this idea.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Yeah, I saw that. I'll gladly wait the extra month for a more robust disc. Excited to see what people do with online features in the future.

I've got to wonder if some people at Warner are just flat-out getting pissed at the Blu-Ray side for dragging their heels on stuff and holding up their Total HD initiative.[/QUOTE]

I think that pretty much is the case. But instead of screw BD fans yet again like with Matrix, they are going ahead and giving them the movie a month earlier, which they should be happy about. I think this is a sign that Warner is definitely not on board with thinking BD-J is worth waiting for, especially when many players can't use it anyway.
 
Was watching Smokin Aces last night and it was working great until the last part of the movie. It froze so I restarted the 360 and it wouldnt even load up the HD side of the disc. Had to boil it this morning several times and it now looks like it works again. I hate combo discs for this reason.
 
They updated the story....it could be BLU-RAY, the chinese translation is the same for both.

This is just like the off-brand LCD market....it will always be cheaper, but quality might just suck.
 
[quote name='Ruined']Walmart orders 2 million $299 HD DVD players, in stores soon!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/20/the-wal-mart-299-hd-dvd-player-on-the-way/

$299 Walmart HD DVD player, 2 million ordered for sale in WalMart stores. By XMAS, I wouldn't be suprised to see $199 players![/quote]Might want to tack on the update, it's actually 2 million Blu-ray players.

I can read Chinese, that word actually means "blue light" or obviously blue laser, which in this case, could be either HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Those articles need to get their facts straight before posting.
 
[quote name='grendel19']Might want to tack on the update, it's actually 2 million Blu-ray players.

I can read Chinese, that word actually means "blue light" or obviously blue laser, which in this case, could be either HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Those articles need to get their facts straight before posting.[/quote]

However, the press release (if other people's chinese is any good) also talks about being able to press the discs on the same equipment as regular DVD, which is not possible with Blu-Ray. Combine that with the "blue light HD DVD" makes it pretty clear IMO.
 
[quote name='geko29']However, the press release (if other people's chinese is any good) also talks about being able to press the discs on the same equipment as regular DVD, which is not possible with Blu-Ray. Combine that with the "blue light HD DVD" makes it pretty clear IMO.[/QUOTE]

The translation was actually blue laser HD DVD. This was specified because in China they have red laser high definition disc as a format, too. Nothing to do with "Blu-Ray" which would simply read as "Blu-Ray."
 
I wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed the blue laser HD-DVD players--Walmart is about as cost-conscious as a retailer can get, so them backing the "cheaper" player makes some sense.

On the other hand, Pioneer announced a $300 Blu-Ray player for the Chinese market, so who knows what all this means in the long run. IMO, I'm still hoping the industry just stops with the Tolkien "one player to rule them all" shit and just kiss and make up. There's room for both formats if companies are willing to do like Warner is with the Total HD system...
 
Am I the only one that noticed TDK being mentioned? Isn't TDK one of the original developers of BR? I think this is going to be very bad news for HD if its found to be accurate.
 
[quote name='millrat1030']Am I the only one that noticed TDK being mentioned? Isn't TDK one of the original developers of BR? I think this is going to be very bad news for HD if its found to be accurate.[/quote]
They are, in fact, one of the original developers of Blu-Ray, the exclusive patent-holder on the spincoat hard coating and a founding member of the BDA.

But they're also the inventor of the 17, 34, and 51GB HD DVDs.

TDK is all about making money in the optical disc business, they don't give a shit how it comes in.

Furthermore, TDK media (the part of the company that manufactures discs) was just sold to Imation. As TDK media was rather tightly focused on Blu-Ray and Imation dealt quite a bit with HD DVD, TDK-Imation will probably continue production on both formats. However, the R&D, manufacturing, and OEM company (which develops lasers, along with other things such as power supplies and hdd read heats) will likely continue to develop for whatever format will pay the bills (HD DVD in this specific case).

And in this case, TDK is making the laser, Fuh Yuan is making the loader, and Broadcom is providing the chipset. And multiple native chinese speakers on AVS (I believe we're up to 5 or 6 now) all confirm that this is DEFINITELY referring to HD DVD. The article repeatedly refers to the technology as "lan guang HD DVD", whereas Blu-Ray is referred to (even in other articles on the same site) as "lan guang Blu-Ray Disc". Furthermore, Wal-Mart has been modestly supporting HD DVD since the beginning. Toshiba has made two SKUs specifically for them (the HD-D1 and HD-D2), and the were one of the few retailers that sold the RCA HD DVD player (a rebadged HD-A1).
 
[quote name='grendel19']Might want to tack on the update, it's actually 2 million Blu-ray players.

I can read Chinese, that word actually means "blue light" or obviously blue laser, which in this case, could be either HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Those articles need to get their facts straight before posting.[/quote] i have a feeling there will be a second update sayint they were right the 1st time, it was HD-DVD and akihabara's translation update was wrong.

i mean just look at the article. see how the only thing not in chinese is HD DVD WALMART and TDK?

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check out this translation

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=zh_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ettoday.com%2F2007%2F04%2F16%2F320-2082635.htm


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...HD DVD high capcity - so upscaled DVD player is ruled out

...image more lifelike - so HD format ruled in

...easier for DVD to maintain compatibility - HD-DVD players can play DVDs easier, blu-ray players need an extra laser to.

...reduces DVD moving to HD-DVD cost - DVD plants can be changed to HD-DVD plants easier because it requires only some equipment to change as opposed to blu-ray requiring entirely new lines

only thing im not sure of is where it says "small, but guards against blows". blu-ray has that hardened layer which makes it more scratch resistant than HD-DVD. but everything else in the article points straight to it being a HD-DVD player.
 
Looks like Robert at AVS (very good connections with Toshiba and the entire HD DVD Camp) has confirmed it will be HD DVD and will be available for $299.99 with frequent sales of $199.99 Pre-Xmas at Wal-Mart. He speaks of getting some for his store and his own branding so this MAY not be a Wal-Mart 'exclusive'.

This is HUGE HUGE HUGE news for the HD DVD Camp. Wal-Mart looked at both options and chose HD DVD as the one they most likely see as winning, not Blu-Ray.
 
I should also add this as well:

(April 19th)

Seeking to expedite product development in the trendy consumer electronics market, South Korean Samsung Electronics and Microsoft Corp. April 19 announced they have entered into a license agreement. ....Last week, Samsung, ardent supporter of Blu-ray Disc, announced plans for a dual format player with HD DVD, whose backers include Microsoft.

http://www.homemediaretailing.com/

Another blow to Blu-Ray.
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Looks like Robert at AVS (very good connections with Toshiba and the entire HD DVD Camp) has confirmed it will be HD DVD and will be available for $299.99 with frequent sales of $199.99 Pre-Xmas at Wal-Mart. He speaks of getting some for his store and his own branding so this MAY not be a Wal-Mart 'exclusive'.

This is HUGE HUGE HUGE news for the HD DVD Camp. Wal-Mart looked at both options and chose HD DVD as the one they most likely see as winning, not Blu-Ray.[/QUOTE]
Let's just hope the player isn't a piece of shit.
 
[quote name='anomynous']Let's just hope the player isn't a piece of shit.[/QUOTE]

At $200 to $300 per player, they can't afford this one to be disposable like their other chinese players.

Wonder how this is going to affect the DRM plans for HD-DVD in the future? The Chinese players are notorious for ignoring these "mandates" for the technology "safeguards".

Here's to hoping they don't use some of the "quality" parts Cyberhome used to use in their little players. Easy to make region free, but pretty craptacular quality. :)
 
[quote name='Mechafenris']At $200 to $300 per player, they can't afford this one to be disposable like their other chinese players.

Wonder how this is going to affect the DRM plans for HD-DVD in the future? The Chinese players are notorious for ignoring these "mandates" for the technology "safeguards".

Here's to hoping they don't use some of the "quality" parts Cyberhome used to use in their little players. Easy to make region free, but pretty craptacular quality. :)[/QUOTE]
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At $300, I'd still get the Toshiba HD A2
 
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