Heroes Volume 3: Villains

[quote name='JolietJake']Maybe elle's power exploded like that because she's younger and can't control them as well? She was scared and panicking, maybe she just lost control.[/QUOTE]

Id say she was further along in understanding and controlling her power than Ted was but thats just my guess.
 
After seeing the dream sequence with Adam and friends, I'm pretty sure Angela Petrelli will find Adam, probably using Molly or someone with Molly's powers.

I'm glad there is no Mohinder in this episode.
 
[quote name='Chase']Apparently, in the graphic novel, Adam thinks that his new wife will find and rescue him from being buried alive. Perhaps she finds out and rescues him?

In episode 1, Mrs. Petrelli has a vision that includes an alive and well Adam Monroe. He is exhumed at some point. I assume he would be unconscious, and rotting, until then. :whistle2:k[/quote]

Just wait...

Hiro and Ando will dig up Adam in next week's episode. However, it looks like time has taken a bit of a toll on him.

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[quote name='DarkKenpachi']
-I need to see more of this but for some reason I believe Adam Monroe is Claire's Grandfather.[/quote]

It was all but set in stone that Adam was going to be Mr. Petrelli. But the writer's strike messed it up and they decided to throw in a segment in one of the graphic novels where Adam marries a woman with the last name of Sanders (im guessing, somehow related to Nikki/Jessica). This would mean that Nikki/Jessica & Nathan would be half-siblings, and while Heroes doesnt mind an incest angle between Uncle & Neice (PeterxClaire), I guess the sibling incest was too much.
 
Si I just watched EP 3 and I have to say it was much better. The first 2 EP were Meh, this last one is what I expect from Heroes.
 
[quote name='Veronica Mars']I care!
That's why I asked! I'm so confused. I miss a few episodes, and I feel like it's a spin-off series :/[/QUOTE]

Got trapped in a building and died when it exploded. If you missed that then you missed the last episode of season 2, better get on that
 
I'm at the point now where I'm not even questioning or scrutinizing this show. It just gets in the way of enjoying the fun they're having with Sylar and the world-class beautiful women on the show. Besides, I've got LOST for my non-stop head-scratching and contemplations on obscure Biblical references and genuinely interesting manipulations of the fourth dimension.

So far, Season 3 is significantly better than Season 2, but at the same time, I don't see this show ever living up to the potential the best episodes from Season 1 demonstrated. More importantly, I sense that the public's interest in the show is going to evaporate quickly at some point this season (they're just going to give up on trying to keep up), and the show's probably got one more (truncated) season in it after this one. They're clearing makin' it up as they go.

P.S. Daphne's predictably hot, but I'm not sure if I like the character yet. Very cute, but very contrived, even for this show's standards.

P.P.S. Was I hallucinating, or did
Nikki's eyelids flutter for a split second while she was in the coffin? I realize that it might have just been an almost imperceptible lapse of concentration, but do we really believe that Nikki's dead?

P.P.P.S. Still needs its "Wolverine". And no, it's not Sylar. He's more Magneto, I guess.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']
P.P.S. Was I hallucinating, or did
Nikki's eyelids flutter for a split second while she was in the coffin? I realize that it might have just been an almost imperceptible lapse of concentration, but do we really believe that Nikki's dead?
.[/quote]

I really hope so, I mean her character was really getting a little annoying, her fighting with her self was good and all in Season 1 but in Season 2 i didn't really care for her character. I really don't think there is any room for Nikki in season 3. If she is alive, they better have a good fucking WHY!
 
[quote name='Foo228']Biggest shocker: Finding out Peter shot his bro...for some reason I think Angela saying she was Sylar's mom was just false info (and they need to stop this whole family angle!)[/quote]

I think that she was on the level about Sylar being her son.
- In Season 1 after Sylar was captured Noah was intent on killing him outright, but for some reason he was to be kept alive. (I think of it as Mrs. Petrelli protecting her son like Bob protecting Elle)
- I assumed that the power of reading ones history that Mrs. Petrelli fed Sylar was to confirm that she was his mother, which leads me to think that he will somehow read Hiro's memory and unearth Adam.
- Sylar's ability to learn someone's powers is very similar to Peter's which I don't think is just coincidential, and with that said Nathan got the shaft with only being able to fly.

On another topic I've been thinking a lot about the whole Mrs. Petrelli viewing the future and I think that she acts to preserve the integrity of the timeline. As she told future battle scarred Peter "You don't fuck with time." She talked about preparing Sylar for what's to come, which I assume is the vision of all the other heroes getting fucked up.

I'm kinda dissappointed with Hiro so far this season, because seems to care more about the glory of being a hero, rather than protecting the world. Couldn't he have just not opened up the safe and refined his powers/swordplay?

What other opinions are do you guys/gals have?

Oh, and I just read the book "Heroes - Saving Charlie" and I thought it was fantastic :applause:
 
I agree with what someone said a few pages ago, about Noah passing on the chance to kill Sylar, in order to save Claire. Also, we now know why Claire was in the closet and "trapped", she was hyperventilating. Kind of weak, but that makes sense too.

Also, I think Sylar ends up letting out the other Villians in the next few episodes. He's got to be tired of going into that cell after work. And I think eventually, Sylar and will get the Haitian's power, since he should be able to cut his head open even without Telekenisis. That would be pretty insane, assuming he could use multiple abilities at once. That might make him too badass though. On that note, shouldn't Peter have that ability, or would he not have it, since it seems to be constantly on for the Haitian.

Overall, solid episode. Having the present Peter back=good.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']On that note, shouldn't Peter have that ability, or would he not have it, since it seems to be constantly on for the Haitian.[/quote]

The Haitians power turned off when Ando knocked him out. :)
 
Just a few random thoughts....

Rewatched the first epsiode of season 3 over the weekend. Future Peter leans in and kisses Nathan on the forehead just before he springs back to life. Then he does it again after Nathan's "Angels" speech and that is right when Lindermann appears. Coincidence?

I'm slightly leaning towards a (temporary) Sylar good turn. If Angela is dreaming on what's to come, then why make Sylar more powerful? Cause in that future dream all the Heroes are dead and you have the lineup of Adam, Maury, Tracy and Knox looking menacing before her. That's when Sylar comes up behind her and put his hand on her shoulder, which woke her. I think she's trying to manipulate him into being her protector at that point. Big battle between Sylar and the "villains". Then, Peter (either present or future) fixes the butterfly effect (I know...not really possible) puts things right and basically wastes the season.

How much does it suck to be a child actor on this show? Molly's parents were slaughtered, her hero Parkman is missing and Mohinder shipped her to Timbuktu before he starts banging de-accented ho's in the apartment. And Micah? Both super-powered parents dead and stuck with the annoying spin-off family from hell.

Hiro was such a big part of the first two seasons, he's being forced now. But I don't care if it connects together with the other story (and you know it will). Plus, I would do naughty naughty things to Daphne.

Everyone loves the "days of future past" thing....but it's getting played out. Peter better not spend more than an episode or two in the future. PMS Claire isn't doing much for me.

And most importantly.... HRG is the fucking man!
 
[quote name='doraemonkerpal']
The Haitians power turned off when Ando knocked him out. :)
[/quote]

I guess that means if he's knocked out, Peter could have the ability. Thats all he'd really need. I just wonder how long before Peter or Sylar ends up with the Haitians ability.
 
[quote name='ananag112']If Peter is around Sylar, does Peter get all the abilities of Sylar+his own powers?[/quote]

Hmm... well, he got sylar's Telekinesis from season 1 when sylar was going to kill clarie (sylar using telekinesis to fling locker doors at peter). I don't believe peter ever met DL when he was using his powers though since he was able to walk through walls to escape in season 2.
 
I think it's pretty inevitable and therefore predictable that we're going to see a protracted Sylar-goes-good story arch sooner than later, if only for the equally inevitable Sylar-has-a-relapse 'twist'* that we're supposed to be shocked by, due to being conditioned to believe that, yes, he actually turned the corner for good. I mean, we wanted to be justified in liking him, dangit!

I think Sylar and Benjamin Linus are very analogous in that they're both very self-centerd, manipulative geniuses with more than a little tragedy directing their decisions, but are both evil in the end because power and vindictiveness to them are more important than any sort of redemption.

*--At the worst possible moment for the protagonists, of course.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']P.P.P.S. Still needs its "Wolverine". And no, it's not Sylar. He's more Magneto, I guess.[/quote]

sylar is more like the sauron of the show, esp when they explained/mentioned that he gets the "hunger" for more powers

the magneto guy
got owned by mr fear in ep 3
 
Kind of dissapointed that they delayed the best part of the episode til the end. Next week has me somewhat dreading, yet still intrigued about the "return" of a certain character.

I wonder how they plan on bringing Mr. Petrelli into the storyline. They have enough mindfucks in it as it is...
 
As much as I love the show, and yes Im able to keep up so far, but for christs sakes they have a ton of angles going at once.
 
One thing I don't get is
how did future peter die. He was shot with peter from the past next to him. So all the skills future peter has the one from the past should have got from being around him and all the ones peter from the past has the future one should have got from being around him. So he could have healed himself.
 
[quote name='sendme']One thing I don't get is
how did future peter die. He was shot with peter from the past next to him. So all the skills future peter has the one from the past should have got from being around him and all the ones peter from the past has the future one should have got from being around him. So he could have healed himself.
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The Haitian was with Claire.
 
[quote name='sendme']One thing I don't get is
how did future peter die. He was shot with peter from the past next to him. So all the skills future peter has the one from the past should have got from being around him and all the ones peter from the past has the future one should have got from being around him. So he could have healed himself.
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Correct me if Im wrong but the item that "kills" him..aka the bullets...once they get removed, he'll come back.

Like in season 1 when the stick was removed from Claires head, and when the shard of glass was removed from Peter's head...they bounced back.
 
Great episode as always. It felt very slow in the beginning and than really picked up near the end. Can't wait till next week
 
[quote name='Will']Correct me if Im wrong but the item that "kills" him..aka the bullets...once they get removed, he'll come back.

Like in season 1 when the stick was removed from Claires head, and when the shard of glass was removed from Peter's head...they bounced back.[/QUOTE]

That's only in the brain I think.

Blue Lobstah had it right, the Haitian was with Claire so his powers didn't work

Anyway, solid episode, much better than last weeks.
 
Wouldn't his powers "kick on" once the Haitian was out of range though? I really liked this episode a lot, but I can't believe that Hiro was so easily convinced to go dig up Adam. I mean, he did just try and destroy the world a few months before.
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']Wouldn't his powers "kick on" once the Haitian was out of range though? I really liked this episode a lot, but I can't believe that Hiro was so easily convinced to go dig up Adam. I mean, he did just try and destroy the world a few months before.[/QUOTE]


That would have been my next question.
 
[quote name='jeremywoods']sylar is more like the sauron of the show, esp when they explained/mentioned that he gets the "hunger" for more powers

the magneto guy
got owned by mr fear in ep 3
[/quote]


Sauron is a good match for Sylar. They are both vampires of sorts.

I also wonder why Peter's slash wounds didn't heal after the Haitian left the room. Unless Haitty was standing outside the door. Then, that would make sense.

So like, is Lindermann a totem for Nathan? I missed the first twenty minutes of the episode. :bomb:
 
[quote name='Veronica Mars']I don't get why Claire is killing everyone.
Is it the "Born" Vs "Created" ?[/QUOTE]

Peter is seen as a terrorist and extremist in the future, since Claire most likely doesn't have access to people who can see the future she has no reason to believe he isn't full of shit. From what little I gleamed from her conversation with Sylar she hated him for something he did possibly outside the ripping her skull off. I'm guessing her father was killed , thus Sylar naming a kid after him. Nathan understood Peter wasn't lying, was probably going to let him go and well...... that ended badly for him.

Hiro digging up Adam at the drop of a hat was lame, i'm hoping this is rectified by Adam getting an even worse prison later on. Oh and damn did Peter get the hunger fast! I hope he and Sylar are tag teaming brains by next season until they eventually turn on each other since both possess juicy brains :whee:
 
I bet Peter and Sylar's heads wind up in jars. :whistle2:k Each beheaded by the other.

I also did not dig Hiro and Ando digging up Adam without complaint. Or at least we weren't privy to the scene where they complain. For someone who has been built up as Hiro's courage and reason, one would figure Ando would be against digging up someone who is such a wild card. We have no idea as to what Adam truly thinks. Though Mrs. Petrelli's vision pretty much shows that Adam would align himself with other villains/Company folk.
 
[quote name='Chase']I bet Peter and Sylar's heads wind up in jars. :whistle2:k Each beheaded by the other.

[/QUOTE]

I just keep on expecting a highlander moment , one of them needs to scream THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!
 
Ugh, this show is dead to me. I figured I'd give the writers a couple episodes to woo me over after the train wreck that constituted the last season, but I can't subject myself to any more of this garbage. At least there's still Boston Legal to make my Mondays enjoyable.
 
i just dont understand why peter would need sylars power. i mean, he gets powers just from hangin out with heroes.

i also dont understand why hiro and ando dug up adam, im sure mrs petrelli did some nice convincing, but couldnt hiro just teleport to him and then bring him right to her desk instead of all that digging.

also, it seems like in the future the only people that are not "villians" are peter and hiro (or ando, maybe ando was the good guy in hiros vision).

i was also sad to see the haitian still working with the company after all the good he did in season 1. and also, mad props to parkman for hooking up with daphne, shes gotta be like 15 years younger than him, good for him.
 
this episode did a lot for me.
-It proves to me that nathan does not share the same father as peter and sylar(gabriel) with the preview stating that nathan's powers were given to him. I must also note I am glad I thought about how come the government or other sources weren't trying to make people with powers or something along the lines.

-so if nikki and whatever the girl's name is are triplets? where is the third sister?

-what ever happened to the girl peter was dating in season 2?

-so does peter have the ability to use the haitain's powers?

-what happened to the guy that can fly that was dating claire?

Overall great episode and it will be interesting to see where this goes from here. But I will admit that for all the promise this shows, there is the chance that this will fizzle at the end of the season instead of exploding.
 
How did Sylar get the exploding man's power again in the future?

I found this episode really lame. The whole watch thing to understand Sylars powers was pretty dumb as well. They made Hiro extremely stupid in season 3. Same with Mohinder. And WTF at future Mohinder.

I will probably keep watching Heroes for the heck of it, but I think the best episodes of Heroes are behind us.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']i just dont understand why peter would need sylars power. i mean, he gets powers just from hangin out with heroes.

i also dont understand why hiro and ando dug up adam, im sure mrs petrelli did some nice convincing, but couldnt hiro just teleport to him and then bring him right to her desk instead of all that digging.

also, it seems like in the future the only people that are not "villians" are peter and hiro (or ando, maybe ando was the good guy in hiros vision).

i was also sad to see the haitian still working with the company after all the good he did in season 1. and also, mad props to parkman for hooking up with daphne, shes gotta be like 15 years younger than him, good for him.[/QUOTE]


- It isn't about having just any power, he needed that specific power but he also needed to know how to use it. He has had his mother's power since season 1 and doesn't even know it, that is Peter's real problem. Unlike Sylar he doesn't always know what he has.

-I was thinking the same thing, if he teleported him in then teleport him out.

- That is all a matter of perspective, from Claire and company's point of view they were doing things for the greater good and Peter was a terrorist, from Peter's point of view everybody was crazy and the world was going to hell in a handbasket.
 
One thing that really annoyed me in this episode that I had not thought of before. Why had Peter not gained Sylar's power before?

In seasons 1 & 2 Peter obtaining a new power was a subconscious event in him gaining a new ability automatically, yet in this episode he had to focus on Sylar and convince him to share his ability. He has obviously come in contact with Sylar before without the Haitian around so there was no reason not to already have his ability.

I seriously think the writers are screwing with us, or just have forgotten everything that happened in the first two seasons.
 
[quote name='BlueLobstah']
The Haitian was with Claire.
[/QUOTE]

[quote name='dmaul1114']That's only in the brain I think.

Blue Lobstah had it right, the Haitian was with Claire so his powers didn't work

Anyway, solid episode, much better than last weeks.[/QUOTE]

Not when she first shot him. Well he was but also hit with a trashcan lid and how close does does he have to be to stop their powers and how close was he when he got hit. If future peter really is dead this was just bad writing.
 
[quote name='sendme']Not when she first shot him. Well he was but also hit with a trashcan lid and how close does does he have to be to stop their powers and how close was he when he got hit. If future peter really is dead this was just bad writing.[/QUOTE]

In the first time travel episode the Haitian's powers effected an entire floor of a building, he doesn't have to be right on top of someone for them to work. Future Peter had a terrible death but I kinda get it, his powers didn't work when he died so he outright really died instead of just being knocked out or something. So even after the Haitian's power was out of range he was still dead. Dead people don't have a power I guess. As for the mastermind
Well i guess it is time for Peter and Nathan's dad to come into the picture, I know some guy got casted as him already
 
[quote name='sendme'] Well he was but also hit with a trashcan lid and how close does does he have to be to stop their powers and how close was he when he got hit. If future peter really is dead this was just bad writing.[/quote]
This is the first thought that popped into my head in that scene. When Hiro and Ando were chasing after the Speedster girl (I forgot her name :lol: ), her powers turned back on when Ando knocked out the Haitian. When future Peter was shot, Peter from the past knocked out the Haitian with a trashcan lid. Wouldn't future Peter immediately heal from the gunshot wounds?

[quote name='RAMSTORIA']i just dont understand why peter would need sylars power. i mean, he gets powers just from hangin out with heroes.[/quote]
Agreed. Peter already knows how to fly. Why would he kill his brother to learn how to use it? It's like the show Lost has invaded Heroes! :)
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']i just dont understand why peter would need sylars power. i mean, he gets powers just from hangin out with heroes. [/quote]

My guess is that so that he can see who is born with powers and who is made.
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']Wouldn't his powers "kick on" once the Haitian was out of range though? I really liked this episode a lot, but I can't believe that Hiro was so easily convinced to go dig up Adam. I mean, he did just try and destroy the world a few months before.[/QUOTE]

May be too late if he was already dead, thus they couldn't kick back on.
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']Wouldn't his powers "kick on" once the Haitian was out of range though? I really liked this episode a lot, but I can't believe that Hiro was so easily convinced to go dig up Adam. I mean, he did just try and destroy the world a few months before.[/quote]

hiro's just one of those gullible idiots -__-

[quote name='BlueLobstah']One thing that really annoyed me in this episode that I had not thought of before. Why had Peter not gained Sylar's power before?

In seasons 1 & 2 Peter obtaining a new power was a subconscious event in him gaining a new ability automatically, yet in this episode he had to focus on Sylar and convince him to share his ability. He has obviously come in contact with Sylar before without the Haitian around so there was no reason not to already have his ability.

I seriously think the writers are screwing with us, or just have forgotten everything that happened in the first two seasons.[/quote]

he probably already has the powers but he doesnt know he has it. he should have everyones powers from the show except molly, tracy, micah, and the muscle mimic. im not sure he met those people. but being around sylar, he should have gained all of his abilities (melting metal, etc). then there are the powers he shouldve gained while being around someone (invisible guy, electricity, flames, matts, blue flame guy, painter, his mom, nathan, claire, hiro, nikki, dl, etc) and some new ones he shoulve gotten like the screaming dude and the fear smelling guy. am i missing anyone?
 
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[quote name='dmaul1114']May be too late if he was already dead, thus they couldn't kick back on.[/QUOTE]

that was my thought, he was dead when the haitin was knocked out. as far as we know he isnt immortal like claire.
 
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