I don't understand why they would take the games out of these (360 or PS3). The games really cost the cos. next to nothing to include, but help people justify the price. And I would think the cos. need to have even more of an incentive for people to take the plunge and buy the systems after the holidays as they move into a slower selling season. If it's a ploy to move inventory by making the bundles seem "rare" so people snap them up, they could just change the game.