Homeland Security Dept. and Patriot Act in action...

[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']But it was extremely rude of them. Just like you can't yell fire in a movie theater. Is it my right to say I have a gun in a school. Is it my right to call the president and give him death threats? No it isn't. But according to you it is, because we are protected under the 1st amendment...[/quote]

Ooh, great examples you use there. Wearing an article of clothing and calling up the president and threatening him to die is much different. Get your damn facts straight before you try to act smart.
With every post, you just get less and less intelligent. Humor me, oh mighty frodo. At least try to sound intelligent for people? I know the exceptionally tiny package beneath your fat belly might be distracting, but go on. You can do it.
 
[quote name='x0thedeadzone0x'][quote name='Dragonlordfrodo'][quote name='eldad9']At least he wasn't arrested for wearing anti-bush t-shirts.[/quote]

Those people deserved to be arrested. They had no right to wear those type of shirts there. It is like going to church wearing a Deicide Tshirt (Deicide is a satanic death metal band. The main theme of there lyrics is to bash religion).

Maybe if it were a kerry convention it would be more appropriate. But they were just asking for trouble, and seeing as they are clearly anti bush, they shouldn't have even been at the convention...[/quote]

Those people DESERVE to be arrested? Are you kidding? We, as free motherfucking citizens of the United States, can do what we want. You are just retarded to think that. Maybe they wanted to EXPRESS THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Oh, and as for your prejudice fat ass, you shouldn't be saying that they should ban gay marriage, as that's probably the only chance you've got left, if any at all.[/quote]

My views on gay marriage have nothing to do with being prejudice. I am very tolerant of other peoples lifestyles. However Marriage was designed because it helps out the community by promoting families. Gay people cannot have families. Why should they get all the benefits of a straight couple, such as tax breaks and what not, when they don't give anything back to the community, such as children?
 
[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']But it was extremely rude of them. Just like you can't yell fire in a movie theater. Is it my right to say I have a gun in a school. Is it my right to call the president and give him death threats? No it isn't. But according to you it is, because we are protected under the 1st amendment...[/quote]

Ok, first, I have said I had a gun in school(I didn't), my teachers didn't do jack.

Secondly, have you ever read the constitution? You couldn't have, as you are too retarded to read. Here's a thought, get your government-appointed handler who is reading you this site read you that fucking important document before you go shooting your mouth off about shit you don't know.

Our rights, including freedom of speech, only go as far as that they do not infringe on others rights. Calling "FIRE" puts others in danger, infringing on their rightto life. Wearing a fucking t-shirt doesn't hurt anyone. I think this is all just envy, as that couple could easily find a t-shirt that fits, and not have to use a potatoe sack you fat douchebag.
 
So should I be able to wear a devil costume or an "I wish I was an atheist" tshirt to a catholic church? No, because it is offensive, just like the bush shirts were offensive for the environment.
 
I want to know why the guy can't afford a catchy bash Bush domain and we're stuck with IP numbers.

To all of these people saying we're losing our freedoms, no one cares, the government is ruining our way of life.... grow up. What's the point of having those freedoms if they're used against you? The Supreme Court ruled that if an officer asks for your name you are legally entitled to give it to him/her. This man wasn't arrested, he was asked questions in a very public place. OOOOOH, tEh gUbeRmEnT is teh eViL AnyBodY bUt bU$h!!!1!1!!

He was worried that his neighbors might think he's a DRUG DEALER? OMFG! They might think he's a heroin user, porn reader, chronic masturbator or homosexual too! STFU. Who cares what your neighbors might think?

Our current enemies have something in common. They're militant Islamists. They share many common physical traits with this man. They aren't 20-30 year old Swedish blondes with 38DD's running around car bombing our troops, cutting off contractors heads,taking hostages, flying planes into buildings okay? They have something in common and without describing it.... you know it too. Do I personally care that guy got questioned? Nope.

Hell, in high school we held a picnic to celebrate the end of school. We had coolers, kids had cigatrettes, we were playing frisbee. Two cruisers came by at different times in a public park and saw kids drinking, smoking and playing games. We let them check our coolerf full of tasty sodas they said have a great time and left. OMFG! They questioned us! They did their jobs! F'da police! If they wanted ID from me? Who cares?!?!?

What's the point of having personal liberties if your enemy studies them the way the ACLU has twisted them? What if they have highly educated, trained on American civil rights terrorists? Couldn't happen? These guys are all dead enders? How about Al Qaeda's number two is an Egyptian physician who could have made a six figure income and been a king in his own homeland but gave it up instead? How about Osama who could have lived the life of a millionaire playboy? You don't think they could send teams over here and have a team leader that is a fully trained American lawyer?

You have no idea how educated, motivated, opportunistic and tennacious this enemy is. This partisan bickering and "ABB" crying would come to a screeching HALT like it did on 9/12/01 if something happens again. As it is 96% of this country seems to have gone back to its 9/10/01 Pollyanna view of the world, politics and what's right and wrong. Don't make the mistake because nothing has happened here for three years that we can quit, let up and decide that profiling is wrong.

Can you imagine in hindsight what would have happened if in August of 2001 we had decided that men of Middle Eastern decent could no longer buy one way tickets in cash? Can you imagine the outcry? The complaints? The websites dedicated to pure unadulterated hatred? Can you imagine if 3,000 people didn't die because they showed up to work? Could you imagine an attack that didn't have a $1 trillion echo in our economy? Can you imagine not being able to blame Bush for a "crappy" economy?

Sometimes you people that hate for the sake of hating, blame for the sake of blaming need to realize that just because you personally don't feel like "you're at war" doesn't mean that millions of people don't feel like they're at war with you. Your enemy doesn't care that you're understanding of their faith, sensitive to their civil rights when they're a legal or illegal guest in your country, they don't care that you don't judge them on their appearance. To them, you're their best hope. A tolerant, understanding, non-judgmental populace is their best operating hope. If you happen to be added to the body count in a future operation they will laugh that your own ignorance added to their body count.

Where is your outrage that American's are beheaded, dismembered, dragged behind cars, hung from overpasses? Is it "they shoudln't have been there"? What kind of ignorance is that? Is it "they should have known better"? All of your arguments and misplaced anger remind me of the differences between white on black crime in a white neighborhood as opposed to black on white crime in a black neighborhood.

Guess it's that type of ignorance that's so proudly on display here from the "tolerant" crowd.
 
[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']So should I be able to wear a devil costume or an "I wish I was an atheist" tshirt to a catholic church? No, because it is offensive, just like the bush shirts were offensive for the environment.[/quote]

Ah, but the thing is, you ARE allowed to wear those, no matter how offensive. Again, release your pudgy fingers from the mouse, and read the fucking constitution before you speak. You'll look like less of an ass then.
 
I give a shit about the enemy and what the enemy wants and what the enemy uses. i don't care if they study the ACLU, the U.S. legal system, flight patterns of USAir. I don't care. You see, the enemy isn't the terrorists. The enemy is fear. The terrorists want us to act like we're scared shitless and they want us to change our way of life.

Guess what. We have. The government has more power to snoop on us, investigate us, and examine us...and the best part is...they don't even have to tell us they're doing it. They can read your e-mails, tap your phone, and you may never know about it.

Mmmm...mmmm...good...what democracy, what freedom!

What makes us bigger than the enemy is the fact that we DO care in spite of the fact that they may not care. You wrote: " A tolerant, understanding, non-judgmental populace is their best operating hope." That's wrong. Their best operating hope is a country that is panicked, afraid, and willing to sacrifice the foundations of our liberty.

Go ahead question your neighbor...rat him and his commie ass out.

Go on, call the Feds....that fukin kid looks suspicious with that towel on his head...freakin weirdo.

Suddenly the freedoms we hold dear are not so dear.

Additionally, if we truly are so concerned about terrorists, why the hell aren't we bombing the shit out of Saudi Arabia...this is where most of the 9/11 terrorists came from? Why Iraq who had nothing to do with 9/11?

With your 4th paragraph, you seem to approve of racial profiling...I don't have a problem with that. But then we should be able to go into every Chinese restaurant looking for the dogs they cook, every Italian house looking for the mafia don, every Mexican home trying to find the drugs they all sell, every black home looking for the gang members, every German home looking for hiding Nazis, every Irish home looking for belligerent drunks...luckily you live in a country where even opinions as idiotic, ridiculous, and hatefilled as yours are tolerated and allowed to be broadcast over the airwaves NONSTOP by the numerous right wing media outlets in this country. From Fox News to MSNBC to even CNN, from Rush to O'Riley to Hannity...give up your freedom for the good of the country...can't think of anything more dictatorial than that.

Exercise your right to vote...
 
[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']So should I be able to wear a devil costume or an "I wish I was an atheist" tshirt to a catholic church? No, because it is offensive, just like the bush shirts were offensive for the environment.[/quote]

that is WAAAY different. A church can do whatever it wants, because it is PRIVATE property. When you go to a political rally, most are held in PUBLIC places.

and you cannot yell fire in a movie theater because people could get hurt. You cannot hide behind the first ammendment when others get physically hurt.
 
[quote name='loserboy']I give a shit about the enemy and what the enemy wants and what the enemy uses. i don't care if they study the ACLU, the U.S. legal system, flight patterns of USAir. I don't care. You see, the enemy isn't the terrorists. The enemy is fear. The terrorists want us to act like we're scared shitless and they want us to change our way of life.

Guess what. We have. The government has more power to snoop on us, investigate us, and examine us...and the best part is...they don't even have to tell us they're doing it. They can read your e-mails, tap your phone, and you may never know about it.

Mmmm...mmmm...good...what democracy, what freedom!

What makes us bigger than the enemy is the fact that we DO care in spite of the fact that they may not care. You wrote: " A tolerant, understanding, non-judgmental populace is their best operating hope." That's wrong. Their best operating hope is a country that is panicked, afraid, and willing to sacrifice the foundations of our liberty.

Go ahead question your neighbor...rat him and his commie ass out.

Go on, call the Feds....that fukin kid looks suspicious with that towel on his head...freakin weirdo.

Suddenly the freedoms we hold dear are not so dear.

Additionally, if we truly are so concerned about terrorists, why the hell aren't we bombing the shit out of Saudi Arabia...this is where most of the 9/11 terrorists came from? Why Iraq who had nothing to do with 9/11?

With your 4th paragraph, you seem to approve of racial profiling...I don't have a problem with that. But then we should be able to go into every Chinese restaurant looking for the dogs they cook, every Italian house looking for the mafia don, every Mexican home trying to find the drugs they all sell, every black home looking for the gang members, every German home looking for hiding Nazis, every Irish home looking for belligerent drunks...luckily you live in a country where even opinions as idiotic, ridiculous, and hatefilled as yours are tolerated and allowed to be broadcast over the airwaves NONSTOP by the numerous right wing media outlets in this country. From Fox News to MSNBC to even CNN, from Rush to O'Riley to Hannity...give up your freedom for the good of the country...can't think of anything more dictatorial than that.

Exercise your right to vote...[/quote]

:applause:
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']that is WAAAY different. A church can do whatever it wants, because it is PRIVATE property. When you go to a political rally, most are held in PUBLIC places.

and you cannot yell fire in a movie theater because people could get hurt. You cannot hide behind the first ammendment when others get physically hurt.[/quote]

Stop using logic and facts! you're totally messing up his argument!
 
[quote name='eldad9'][quote name='CaseyRyback']that is WAAAY different. A church can do whatever it wants, because it is PRIVATE property. When you go to a political rally, most are held in PUBLIC places.

and you cannot yell fire in a movie theater because people could get hurt. You cannot hide behind the first ammendment when others get physically hurt.[/quote]

Stop using logic and facts! you're totally messing up his argument![/quote]

LOL
 
You can't use logic and facts when you are trying to convince people to give up their rights.

You have to use fear and panic; desperation and hate.

You see, when logic and cool-headedness prevail, well then freedom wins...and freedom is the last thing on the current administration's mind...
 
You people are hypocrites. You say your freedom of speech is being taken away. Yet you are trying to get me banned from this site, because my views don't reflect yours?? What a load of bullshit
 
[quote name='loserboy']You can't use logic and facts when you are trying to convince people to give up their rights.

You have to use fear and panic; desperation and hate.

You see, when logic and cool-headedness prevail, well then freedom wins...and freedom is the last thing on the current administration's mind...[/quote]

You can't just deal with it until november can you?
 
Well, I wouldn't it be too sure about bush getting elected (I won't say re-elected since he wasn't elected in the first place) since oil prices are going to drop drastically in october, osama bin laden will conveniently be found the same month, and diebold's still allowed to sell voting machines in most states.

"committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next
year." -- Walden O'Dell, CEO of DIebold (which happens to contribute a lot to the prez's favorite political party, and gets a lot of business from government.

You won't even be able to tell how it happened.

At least this time the gov'nr of florida may have to actually let all democrats vote.
 
Back to this guy who was harassed by feds. You do realize that he actually wrote that site, right? I wouldn't be surprised if he fudged a couple of facts or even made the entire thing up...
 
[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']You people are hypocrites. You say your freedom of speech is being taken away. Yet you are trying to get me banned from this site, because my views don't reflect yours?? What a load of bullshit[/quote]

You dislike Bush because of the censorship of Howard Stern issue, yet you're against the right of someone to wear an anti-Bush t-shirt. You're supportive of racial profiling, and of course you are, because you're Caucasian and not being targeted.

Seems like you're all for taking away certain rights and liberties as long as they don't affect you.

Who's the hypocrite now?
 
Dear Dragonlordfrodo,

After reading your blog, I decided arguing with you would be completely pointless.

I will recommend that everybody check out your "my blog" though. It's extremely funny, especially the Linux entry.
 
Hey you don't like what is going on in country, either leave the country OR better yet, kill yourself. Remember "Give me liberty or give me death"
 
[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']Hey you don't like what is going on in country, either leave the country OR better yet, kill yourself. Remember "Give me liberty or give me death"[/quote]

Why should people leave? because they do not agree with you?

If people left everytime they did not agree with something, tyranny would rule.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']You people are hypocrites. You say your freedom of speech is being taken away. Yet you are trying to get me banned from this site, because my views don't reflect yours?? What a load of bullshit[/quote]

You dislike Bush because of the censorship of Howard Stern issue, yet you're against the right of someone to wear an anti-Bush t-shirt. You're supportive of racial profiling, and of course you are, because you're Caucasian and not being targeted.

Seems like you're all for taking away certain rights and liberties as long as they don't affect you.

Who's the hypocrite now?[/quote]

You need to get off your liberal high horse. Seriiously it isn't healthy.

I don't support racial profiling. It is a fact however that middle easterners have done 9/11. It is a fact that we are at war with middle eastern nations because of 9/11. It is a fact that middle eastern countries have been abducting our troops and chopping their heads off because of allah. So what are we supposed to do? We don't know who is good or bad? Do you realize that they found a terrorist cell right here in buffalo about a year ago? You know what the neighbors said about them? They were very polite. They were good people. See Al qaeda trains these "people" to blend into our society. They train them to be kind and polite. Yet they have an agenda. And that agenda is to bring down the america we love. In my neighborhood, we have a couple of arabian owned businesses. There is a pizzeria owned by middle easterners (Dunno what part they are from, but they are clearly from that area.) we have a gas station run by arabians as well. I am not going to judge them and say they are terrorists. But I don't know that. The people that own the pizzeria brought something new to a predominately white neighborhood, and that is that they not only sell pizzas, wings and subs, but they also sell arabic food as well. And I tried some, it isn't that bad. The gas station people are the only place I can get jolt cola and strawberry daiquiri sobe now a days. The point is, is that we don't know who is who. But we need to be vigilant. I am tired of hearing people say that we can't brand anyone a terrorist, because it would be racist. I would rather see a couple people lose there rights temporarily (They aren't even losing them, they would jjust be questioned, surely what harm would come of that?) than to see another 9/11.
 
Dragonlordfrodo's chariot awaits...
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Wow. You can't even debate without personally attacking me, whether it be about my penis size, or my weight, or my mental illness. It is sad really, and immature.
 
Also do you even know what harkness career center is? It is a trade school. Where you learn a specific trade. I happened to take Information Technology there. I did an internship as well. You have no idea wnhat you are talking about. You need to grow up
 
Actually I think its good what the cops did.

In this day and age we have crazy fuckin terrorists lookin to blow us all the fuck up. You kids are all blind to what is really going on in the world. Cells hiding among us like the 9/11 suspects, who lived 10 minutes from where I worked a few years ago in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.

Two guys working for Iran were just kicked out of the country for taking pictures of buildings and bridges that obviously they wanna blow up, muslims hate us.

This guy is taking pictures of bridges, it raises suspicion, you should be glad the cops are that good that they even got that guy without him knowing.
 
All these posts were very amusing to read. I can wear what I want, say what I want whenever I want. That is the problem with society today. Everyone wants to take things to extremes and then say 1st amendmet. There is no respect for others. I'm glad that asshat got hounded like he did, Im sure he was being a little shit when the first cop questioned him.
 
to me it is not that they checked his ID. It is that they did it repeatedly, after he had gotten permission from the park ranger and the cops already showed up on his doorstep.
 
What is the big deal about cops checking someones ID to confirm there identity? This guy is using a fake name. The cops just wanted to see who he really was...
 
I'm glad that asshat got hounded like he did, Im sure he was being a little shit when the first cop questioned him.
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Oh, you're "sure" he was being a "little shit" when the first cop questioned him. Right, because you were there or knew someone that was?

Guess we know who the real asshat is. Here's a hint, big boy: it's the guy who judges someone based on some made-up image of a person he doesn't even know.



The ignorance of some people here is just blinding. I won't deny that we live in tense times...but, for God's sake, times are tense because stupid people are buying into a sense of fear manufactured by the government. When you have to repeatedly accost a student of photography for doing something that dozens of other people are without hindrance, there's someting fundamentally wrong with the system.

Leave it to the truly ignorant and, daresay, stupid to assume it's all just necessary steps in protecting freedoms that are already being denied to people by their own government. Pathetic.
 
Wookieballs said:
"Leave it to the truly ignorant and, daresay, stupid to assume it's all just necessary steps in protecting freedoms that are already being denied to people by their own government. Pathetic. "

so now everyone is stupid and ignorant...and you just ragged on bignick saying he's judging people? :roll:
 
Wookieballs End yourself! Seriously You don't like the new rules kill yourself. Remember liberty of death.

But what do I expect from a "person" with the name Wookieballs?
 
[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']That guy wrote the webpage himself. You don't know if he twisted some facts to his own liking.[/quote]

He obviously did. How many times have you been in a situation with some friends, and then hear them tell the story? What they say is about %80 of the truth.
 
[quote name='BigNick'][quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']That guy wrote the webpage himself. You don't know if he twisted some facts to his own liking.[/quote]

He obviously did. How many times have you been in a situation with some friends, and then hear them tell the story? What they say is about %80 of the truth.[/quote]

Maybe you need to get some better friends. Don't assume that just because you hang out with a bunch of pathologically lying assholes, everyone is a pathologically lying asshole.
 
You did see a copy of the police report. Even if you don't believe anything else, the fact that photographing a landmark and jotting notes will bring the police to your doorstep is something you'd expect from soviet russia.
 
Frodo! You're so right. I believe we should profile people who are similar to terrorists who do acts like this
and look like this
timothy-mcveigh.jpg
. Anyone who looks like these people should be stopped often, questioned about innocent activities, and basically stripped of any rights they have as americans for the betterment of our overall safety.

Oh frodo. That's the guys real name. He's not using a fake name, not all ethnic-looking people have ethnic names. Many members of my family look ambigiously ethnic and we have very diffrent sounding names (Pedro, Farah, Vladimir, Adrian). So please stop saying that, it just makes you look like a racist pompous ass, well so is the rest of your argument.
 
[quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']Also do you even know what harkness career center is? It is a trade school. Where you learn a specific trade. I happened to take Information Technology there. I did an internship as well. You have no idea wnhat you are talking about. You need to grow up[/quote]
I didn't say anything. YOU have no idea what YOU're talking about.

...and who takes a course on Information Technology?
 
[quote name='evilmregg'][quote name='BigNick'][quote name='Dragonlordfrodo']That guy wrote the webpage himself. You don't know if he twisted some facts to his own liking.[/quote]

He obviously did. How many times have you been in a situation with some friends, and then hear them tell the story? What they say is about %80 of the truth.[/quote]

Maybe you need to get some better friends. Don't assume that just because you hang out with a bunch of pathologically lying assholes, everyone is a pathologically lying asshole.[/quote]

No I dont, thats what happens. They arent trying to do it. During the incident, they think they are right, and when they tell the story, thats how it comes out. That guy was writing about the incident from his point of view.
 
[quote name='Pezdro']Frodo! You're so right. I believe we should profile people who are similar to terrorists who do acts like this
and look like this
timothy-mcveigh.jpg
. Anyone who looks like these people should be stopped often, questioned about innocent activities, and basically stripped of any rights they have as americans for the betterment of our overall safety.

Oh frodo. That's the guys real name. He's not using a fake name, not all ethnic-looking people have ethnic names. Many members of my family look ambigiously ethnic and we have very diffrent sounding names (Pedro, Farah, Vladimir, Adrian). So please stop saying that, it just makes you look like a racist pompous ass, well so is the rest of your argument.[/quote]

I don't trust communist news sources
 
[quote name='Methane']...and who takes a course on Information Technology?[/quote]

Obviously someone who doesn't understand that Windows programs won't run natively on Linux, without using a compatability layer such as WINE. And even then...WINE won't allow you to run everything...but I digress.
 
Oh, while we're on the subject, I want to complain. I filed down my PS copy of metal gear solid to fit into the gamecube, and it still won't run! why did they say metal gear solid runs on the gamecube! and now i cant play it on my playstation either. its a good thing i used a pirated copy and not bought the one signed by Hideo Kojima on ebay for $250. the CEO of metal gear solid should be ashamed, all the other games cost $50 and this costs five times as much? WTF?
 
First off let me state that politics probably don't belong on CAG but eh whatever, and don't freaking lecture me about my spelling when i get worked up i type fast and try to correct as many errors as possible and yes this is a HUGE run on sentence eat me :twisted:

I'm glad that this fool got questioned by the police because it means America is doing there fucking jobs. If you think for one moment i'm going to feel bad for this sorry shit your sorely mistaken. Why don't you go tell that story so someone who lost someone in the fucking WTC, oh wait you can tell me because i know someone who was lost in the disaster and if you don't think i look at hindu's and middle eastern decent funny now you're god damn wrong. If i see someone looking at the Sears tower in Chicago, they take a picture, instantly write down notes, then move and take another picture. GOD DAMN RIGHT I CALLED THE COPS BITCH, you can't do shit like that anymore. I don't care if your Black, Brown, Purple, THE TECHNICOLOR fuckING DREAM COAT, i'm suspicious of anyone. Whomever posted the picture of Timothy Mcveigh what a perfect example, you never know who your talking to or dealing with.

Now to deal with these people (my opinion here) who think that John Kerry is the superman of the fucking election. First off i think its sad that a 350+ LB gorilla like Michael Moore can swing so many youth in America with his propaganda that makes him no better than Bush possibly having bad info about Mass destruction. I saw Farenheit 9/11 and i challenge all of you who saw it to search Michael Moore "farenheit 9/11 fact or fiction" on google and look at a website that actually took all that was said about Michael Moore's propaganda and compared it with HARD evidence of fact. Almost 75% of that movie was false or wasn't the whole story, yet we as Americans are looking for a leader, or we're all just a bunch of sad sheep trying to find someone to give us the answer cause we're too fucking lazy to search for it ourselves. I bet you MONEY that if you're driving downtown Chicago and you see a 14-40 African American male walking down the street and your somewhere you don't know, you lock your fucking doors and get scared maybe a little. Its in our nature that we question things we don't know so if some dumbass is taking pictures of a Bridge, writing down notes, i'm worried no matter what you say to me. People too often forget that 3,000+ people died in the tragedy at the WTC. These Fox news and CNN are nothing more than propaganda also. Lets face it Bush isn't the brightest light bulb in the bunch, has he made mistakes, yes, has he sent us to war against a horrible and brutal dictator that was commited mass genocide practically YES, does he say silly things that don't make sense sometimes yes. I respect him for maybe trying to be a human being that isn't like a GD robot and always has the right thing to say, he makes errors, just like we all do. If you think for one second that John Kerry is going to do this any better you have no clue about politics and don't follow it very closely. Kerry changes his opinion from state to state and he's only saying what he has to, so he can get his foot in the door. Lets face it Kerry is a dumb fucking Asshole with HEINZ's money and 13 estates all worth over 1 million dollars. But he proclaims himself as a Mans man, a BLUE COLLAR WORKERS MAN. THE MAN HAS DONE ANYTHING SERIOUS BESIDES TAKE A SHIT at each state he visits. I attended one of his rallies in IL, then i attened one in IN. HE said TWO DIFFERENT THINGS TO TWO DIFFERENT CROWDS. I'm going to keep our men over there and get the job done to make sure that no harm comes back our way. Go to IN, I'll make sure I get our men home safe and sound as soon as i'm in office, OK kerry wait i thought we're going to keep them there so they keep our homeland safe, but how when your going to pull out before were done. He's a slimeball people, all politicians are. My point is don't let the media, A fat ass, or some dumb "brown" guy taking pictures influence who you vote for, make the decision for yourself, take pride in who you vote for, do it for your reasons not for Michael Moore


thanks for readings Meynerd
 
~optimolife

That's not what I said at all. Please read what I said again. Slowly, this time.

~Dragonlordfrodo

Wookieballs End yourself! Seriously You don't like the new rules kill yourself. Remember liberty of death.
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Did you happen to have a hand in the translation of the text in Zero Wing? Because that's just barely English, bud.

Contrary to what optimolife thinks, I didn't call everyone stupid and ignorant. But if I had, you'd be making a good case for me with this unintelligible drivel. I can only assume it was meant to be some kind of vitriolic remark.

But what do I expect from a "person" with the name Wookieballs?
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:roll:

The only thing funny about that is the fact that you probably thought it was clever when you wrote it.
 
[quote name='eldad9']'Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin.[/quote]

Not to go off on a tangent, but that is an amazin quote. Especially from the time he was living in. Franklin has to be one of the most important Americans of all time. Smart, well versed, an inventor and enjoyed livations, my type of American
 
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