How do you know if a girl likes you?

Hell, if you didn't make a move when she didn't have a boyfriend, and she was hugging you all the time, you have no chance with her anymore.

I got lucky with my girlfriend. She figured out quickly that I was god awful at reading signs, so she just straight up told me that she liked me and wanted to hook up. We have a lot in common, so it wasn't awkward at all.

But I'm rambling. The point is, most girls aren't as obvious with those sort of things. A lot of them wait for YOU to make the first move. From what I read in your story, you blew it.
 
I'm ashamed to say I identify with TMK a lot. I never really tried to get in a relationship and at this point I wouldn't know if a girl was interested if she hit me over the head.

As far as what I do know you don't have to change yourself as far as your hobbies and interests, you just have the change the part of yourself that fears rejection to the point of never trying.
 
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[quote name='Rodimus Donut']Years ago when I was courting my wife I showed her that I had the strongest Pokemons. I was in like flint.[/quote]
 
Not to hijack this thread (not that I read all of it anyway) but I have a related question since you folks at least claim to be experts on timing.

There's a girl who is at the front desk every Monday night at the campus gym. I only see her once a week in said situation and only know her well enough to chit-chat a little.

Anyway, it's been about a month and a half since I first joined the gym, and first met her. Do you folks think it's too late to ask some more personal things like, "what other days do you work here?", "what classes are you taking here on campus?", or "Are you single?".
 
[quote name='Filbert'] Do you folks think it's too late to ask some more personal things like, "what other days do you work here?", "what classes are you taking here on campus?", or "Are you single?".[/QUOTE]

No, but don't do it anyway, because those questions sound creepy as hell, like you are going to stalk her.

It's really easy to say "Would you like to get a cup of coffee sometime?"

Bitches be luvin' dat coffee. Just like they luv smiley faces in text messages.
 
After she's done with you she's going to take your PS3! dun dun dun

...

Thank God for being married, I can't go through this shit ever again, and I got a hot Filipino wife! /pix
 
[quote name='Strell']No, but don't do it anyway, because those questions sound creepy as hell, like you are going to stalk her.

It's really easy to say "Would you like to get a cup of coffee sometime?"

Bitches be luvin' dat coffee. Just like they luv smiley faces in text messages.[/QUOTE]
Dis. Just cut to the chase and ask her out.
 
See. No experience. Here I thought you had to get to know somebody better before you could ask them to join you for a coffee.
 
[quote name='Filbert']See. No experience. Here I thought you had to get to know somebody better before you could ask them to join you for a coffee.[/QUOTE]
The point of the coffee is to get to know them better.

:wall:
 
lol.. Coffee is an intimate thing. It's not like fucking.

Kids these days.
 
I wonder, should I just send tons of IMs to girls I like and ask them to go out with me? I'll admit I do seem more comfortable talking on AIM than I am in person (I tend to say stuff I may not say face to face. I dunno why).
[quote name='SpazX']I was gonna write something serious, but I think you've already figured this out yourself.

So the real way to tell if a girl likes you is to get her alone and pull it out. If she likes you it'll be ok, if she doesn't you might get arrested. That's the risk you have to take, it's what every man does.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't try to get myself arrested for a girl though, but I may do a few crazy things. ;)
[quote name='Filbert']I'm ashamed to say I identify with TMK a lot. I never really tried to get in a relationship and at this point I wouldn't know if a girl was interested if she hit me over the head.

As far as what I do know you don't have to change yourself as far as your hobbies and interests, you just have the change the part of yourself that fears rejection to the point of never trying.[/QUOTE]
Glad to see another like me. :)

I was told once by someone that don't be too worried about having several games, Bulls wallscrolls and bedding, and some other nerdy/geeky things at my place because if it scares a girl away or she doesn't like you because of it, just forget about her.
[quote name='Dead of Knight']The point of the coffee is to get to know them better.

:wall:[/QUOTE]I don't drink coffee, so maybe that explains why I have social problems. ;)

[quote name='jaykrue']And I brought that up because I figured it'd be something you could relate to hence referring to it as an 'analogy'. But seriously, move on. If you haven't already made your move at this point, find a new toy to play with. Girls can size up a guy in an instant. She'll know within the first 30 seconds whether or not she's gonna hook up w/ you. It's that whole first impression thing which is why you've got to learn to acclimate yourself to social situations and learn to read non-verbal cues. If you actually want to get into a relationship w/ a girl, even a serious one, this is a highly important skill to master. Without it, you'll remain clueless and (figuratively) impotent for the rest of your life.

The reason why I say to date a lot of girls at once, especially for you, is that you need to catch up to the rest of your male peers. I don't mean tallying how many girls you've scored; I mean knowing how to interact/deal w/ persons of the opposite gender. By dating a few girls at once, you effectively multiply the experience you learn and you catch up quick. You learn what kind of girls you like, what kind of flaws you're willing to put up with (and trust me you will find flaws), better seduction methods, and yeah, if you reach that point, better, more fun ways to have sex. If you decide to date one by one (the traditional way), it'll take forever to learn what you like and tolerate in the person you'll eventually decide to be with till you die. And the skills you learn from many girls will eventually benefit that special someone. Once you've learned how to be an effective lover and partner in a relationship, it becomes more enriched and gets better as time goes on.[/QUOTE]So basically, are you saying, if I don't impress a girl within the first 30 seconds, I have no chance with her even if I ask her another day (when she's single or something the entire time)? I try to get a good first impression by dressing nice, shaving as often as possible (when I'll be near women), etc. But then when I talk, I may get a little sweaty, constantly stutter when talking, and just not make a whole lot of sense.

I think the method you are giving is excellent, but I'd be worried that I'm disrespecting a girl cheating on her (or dating several girls at the same time). Or is dating several girls different than dating several girls while being in a relationship (Yeah, I think that's it)? I have a REALLY bad shyness problem and I may have some social anxiety mixed in. However, I'm thinking I just need to go to a party, and maybe have a drink (that may help), to talk to women and hopefully get into dating a few. I duuno how many have met a girl over alcohol.

Oh yeah, to add to the story a little (going back through my old memory), when I met her my Freshman year in college, I didn't really consider her a girlfriend (more so a friend). She mostly treated me that way at the beginning, saying she wanted to hook me up with some girl (which was a friend of hers). But my Sophomore year, she stopped saying that and sometimes acted like we were dating. I dunno, I'll never understand women.
 
Just say:

"Girl"

"I wanna tell you how Im feeling"

"Im never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna turn around and desert you!"

Seriously Mana Knight, how old are you? I ask because you need to tailor your game to the age group you're after. I can tell you this though, at no age will a girl be down with you cheating on her and at no age is it ever wrong to just let a girl know you like her/you're attracted to her/you wanna fuck her brains out. THis is always the right thing to do (so long as you go about doing it the right way) and AT WORST, your game gets better. If you never do anything or don't say anything you dont get any improvement in your skills and the great Wayne Gretzsky said "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

Let me try to put this in words you will understand. You, my friend, are Piku. Not bad ass like pikachu but just kind of lame and crappy like Piku. You have only 50 hitpoints. BUT, every single time you ask a girl out/tell her you're interested in, you can ONLY GAIN hit points. It is sort of an easy game if you think of it this way because with every interaction you gain 10 but if you get shot down, you only lose 5 so no matter what you will still be up 5. And if it works out, well then you have the opportunity to gain an infinite number of hitpoints and be the bad ass Pikachu, especially since you can get hundreds of points for going out with a girl and thousands for boning.

BTW drugs and alcohol (and the social situations that accompany them) have been fantastic aphrodesiacs for impetuous youths in my experience.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']Just say:

"Girl"

"I wanna tell you how Im feeling"

"Im never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna turn around and desert you!"[/QUOTE]


don't forget to reminder her that "you can' t get this from any other guy!"
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I wonder, should I just send tons of IMs to girls I like and ask them to go out with me? I'll admit I do seem more comfortable talking on AIM than I am in person (I tend to say stuff I may not say face to face. I dunno why).[/QUOTE]

NO. Do not use AIM as a substitute for asking a girl out in person. Phone is a bit better, but not optimal. In your situation, you need the experience of actually asking more than you actually need the date itself. The first few times might be awkward, but it's worth it in the end, as you'll feel infinitely more confident on subsequent attempts.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']I was told once by someone that don't be too worried about having several games, Bulls wallscrolls and bedding, and some other nerdy/geeky things at my place because if it scares a girl away or she doesn't like you because of it, just forget about her.[/QUOTE]

Here's the problem with that approach, it basically taints her initial impressions of you. If a girl comes to like you as a person, it's unlikely she will care about you being into anime, games, etc., because she likes YOU. Your interests and hobbies are just a part of the life of the guy she likes. On the other hand, if her first impression of you is the anime, games, etc., that becomes a far more central thing in her initial impressions. Just keep everything in moderation, and try to keep the emphasis in your first few meetings on impressing a girl with your personality and character, not demanding that she immediately accept your interests. If you like each other as people, that stuff will not be an issue.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']So basically, are you saying, if I don't impress a girl within the first 30 seconds, I have no chance with her even if I ask her another day (when she's single or something the entire time)? I try to get a good first impression by dressing nice, shaving as often as possible (when I'll be near women), etc. But then when I talk, I may get a little sweaty, constantly stutter when talking, and just not make a whole lot of sense.[/QUOTE]

What he means is that a person's first impression of you is extremely powerful. You don't have to ask a girl out the first time you meet her, but it's important to make an impression. First impressions can be overcome, but it's HARD to do. Also, if a girl is single and available, and you don't show interest relatively quickly, she will just assume you aren't interested and turn her attention elsewhere. Again, this is difficult to undo.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']I think the method you are giving is excellent, but I'd be worried that I'm disrespecting a girl cheating on her (or dating several girls at the same time). Or is dating several girls different than dating several girls while being in a relationship (Yeah, I think that's it)? I have a REALLY bad shyness problem and I may have some social anxiety mixed in. However, I'm thinking I just need to go to a party, and maybe have a drink (that may help), to talk to women and hopefully get into dating a few. I duuno how many have met a girl over alcohol.[/QUOTE]

Alcohol is not a cure-all. It tends to make it a bit easier to get over one's shyness, but it won't eliminate it, and it shouldn't be a crutch. What alcohol is good for is getting people into an environment where it's possible to talk and meet new people. I met my fiancee at a law school mixer at a bar, where she was talking to a friend of mine. Had I not met her in that setting, it is very likely I never would have really had the opportunity to meet her again, as we were in different years and had different social circles.

The best advice I can offer you is to forget this girl you keep harping on. That ship has sailed. Try to remain sociable, and go to events on campus and off where you feel comfortable talking with at least one other person there. That person or group of people can be your safety net as you try to get out and meet other people. Make a goal of introducing yourself and having a conversation with at least a couple of girls there. It doesn't matter if you get a date, or even a phone number. Just have conversations. If they go well, try to arrange a time to talk further and ask for contact information. Use the subject matter of the conversation to decide how to approach that. For example, during my first conversation with my fiancee, I mentioned playing racquetball, which she mentioned that she had never done, so I suggested that I would be happy to teach her the game. Thus, our first date was playing racquetball, which turned into having dinner afterwards. In the end, getting a date should be the result of meeting someone you get along with and want to get to know better, not an end in and of itself. The surest path to failure is to make your goal finding a date rather than just meeting people.
 
[quote name='the ender']I can't believe this thread is still going![/QUOTE]

Well you're partially to blame. Wait, now I am! Nooooo!
 
You will never get the girl. It's like a Mario game coming to a Sony system. Never gonna happen. Unless Sony buys out Nintendo in which case it'll happen. So I hope you've been saving up your money.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']So basically, are you saying, if I don't impress a girl within the first 30 seconds, I have no chance with her even if I ask her another day (when she's single or something the entire time)? I try to get a good first impression by dressing nice, shaving as often as possible (when I'll be near women), etc. But then when I talk, I may get a little sweaty, constantly stutter when talking, and just not make a whole lot of sense.[/quote]

strummerbs got it right in one. It's not that you don't have any chance. It's that the time, effort, & resources to change that girl's mind would probably be better spent wooing another girl. Far easier to give a first impressioin than change a person's mind.

Part of the reason why I tell you not to hesitate and just go straight up to it is that that first 30 seconds are crucial since the girl hasn't had a chance to form any definitive impression of you - lover, friend, or otherwise. The other part of that is that once you've past 30 seconds, you yourself start to have what I call a "case of the 'whiffs'. Whiffs are my own shorthand of "what ifs". Plus, it also makes a great baseball analogy equivalent to 'striking out'. You'll have questions like:

What if she doesn't like me?
What if I fart or blow some snot or do some embarrassing bodily function in front of her?
What if she doesn't like the way I look?
What if I'm wearing too much cologne?
What if I didn't shower enough to kill my personal stink?
What if she's some crazy psycho that just looks really good?

And so on and so forth. So you short-circuit that process by jumping in and not hesitating. You essentially don't have time to whiff. The worst thing that can happen is that she says no and that's not the end of the world (despite any emo kid's assertion). Then you just move on and find another girl.

[quote name='The Mana Knight'] I think the method you are giving is excellent, but I'd be worried that I'm disrespecting a girl cheating on her (or dating several girls at the same time). Or is dating several girls different than dating several girls while being in a relationship (Yeah, I think that's it)? I have a REALLY bad shyness problem and I may have some social anxiety mixed in. However, I'm thinking I just need to go to a party, and maybe have a drink (that may help), to talk to women and hopefully get into dating a few. I duuno how many have met a girl over alcohol.[/quote]

First of all, you're making it seem like girls are any better than boys. No, they've fallible human beings capable of both great good & great evil. You need to stop putting girls on a pedestal. Even the most average of girls have enough guys fawning over them. Step up and set yourself apart for the herd. Part of the reason why many so-called 'nice guys' don't get the girl isn't because the bad boy is bad. It's because the bad boy personifies confidence. He's the guy who won't hesitate to go up to some girl and ask for her digits.

Second of all, unless there's a ring on the finger, you are not obligated to stay w/ one person. I don't lie to any of the girls I date. They know I date around but they also know that I also don't care if they date around as well. So it's not cheating since I have all of their consent (I love polyamory). Plus, anything I learn from one girl, I can quickly apply to another girl and further refine my technique (both in & out of bed).

Third, I know you have a shyness problem. It's self-evident. That's essentially why I want to throw you in the deep end of the dating pool so you have no choice but to sink or swim. And unlike real water, in dating, even if you sink, you don't die and have another chance to swim.

Fourth, NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVAH use alchohol as a means to get a girl. That's a crutch and only weak pussy ass bitches use crutches. Not to mention it sets up the potential for a date-rape case. Any guy can get any girl w/o the use of alcohol. It just takes time, effort and practice. The only time you should include alcohol is when you've already been intimate w/ a girl, not before.

[quote name='The Mana Knight'] Oh yeah, to add to the story a little (going back through my old memory), when I met her my Freshman year in college, I didn't really consider her a girlfriend (more so a friend). She mostly treated me that way at the beginning, saying she wanted to hook me up with some girl (which was a friend of hers). But my Sophomore year, she stopped saying that and sometimes acted like we were dating. I dunno, I'll never understand women.[/quote]

Move on, man. It's a waste of your time to try and persuade her. There's sooooo many fish in the sea, to obsess over one little guppy ultimately isn't cost-effective (cost being your time, your money, & your feelings). Plus, don't bother trying to understand women. It's like staring into the sun - you're only asking to get hurt for your curiosity. Men, including myself, haven't understood women since time immemorial. Best just to find what works for you in dealing w/ women and go on from there.
 
Jaykrue is right. You need to toss your inhibitions aside, grab your balls and just ask them out. You can be a broke ass jerk, but if you are uber confident, the ladies eat that up.

I find it easier if you just ask women who are outside your area because chances are you won't see them again if you crash and burn. Once you are comfortable in that mentality, use it to ask women who ARE local to you. You'll find that once in that mindset, you really won't give a fuck of wether she or people around think of you.

CONFIDENCE. You need it to sell ice to eskimos. It doesn't matter what car you drive, what bankroll you have or how long your penis is. If you can snare them with your confidence, they'll never know you drive a shitbox, eat ramen breakfast, lunch & dinner, or have a slong that is not so much until you already have them. :p

Even if your wanker is on the small side, as long as you can do this\\:D/& this :p you're all good. :rofl:
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I wonder, should I just send tons of IMs to girls I like and ask them to go out with me? I'll admit I do seem more comfortable talking on AIM than I am in person (I tend to say stuff I may not say face to face. I dunno why).[/quote]

Just flipped to the last page of this of this thread to get the downlow on whats happening, and Mana Knight - this is why you don't know if a girl likes you. ;)

What does an online conversation tell you? The person your talking to has alot of time on their hands? You won't find anything about the person online that could help (unless of course their interests...and if you're not on the list already, then get a backbone and start talkin in real life!)

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think an online relationship or even an online start-up to a relationship would work.
and yes, I'm speaking from experience :whistle2:?
 
[quote name='CappyCobra']Jaykrue is right. You need to toss your inhibitions aside, grab your balls and just ask them out. You can be a broke ass jerk, but if you are uber confident, the ladies eat that up.

I find it easier if you just ask women who are outside your area because chances are you won't see them again if you crash and burn. Once you are comfortable in that mentality, use it to ask women who ARE local to you. You'll find that once in that mindset, you really won't give a fuck of wether she or people around think of you.

CONFIDENCE. You need it to sell ice to eskimos. It doesn't matter what car you drive, what bankroll you have or how long your penis is. If you can snare them with your confidence, they'll never know you drive a shitbox, eat ramen breakfast, lunch & dinner, or have a slong that is not so much until you already have them. :p

Even if your wanker is on the small side, as long as you can do this\\:D/& this :p you're all good. :rofl:[/quote]

That actually summarizes what I wanted to say but with less words. Damn you! Next time, Gadget! Next time! :bomb: *shakes fist*
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Part of the reason why I tell you not to hesitate and just go straight up to it is that that first 30 seconds are crucial since the girl hasn't had a chance to form any definitive impression of you - lover, friend, or otherwise. The other part of that is that once you've past 30 seconds, you yourself start to have what I call a "case of the 'whiffs'. Whiffs are my own shorthand of "what ifs". Plus, it also makes a great baseball analogy equivalent to 'striking out'. You'll have questions like:

What if she doesn't like me?
What if I fart or blow some snot or do some embarrassing bodily function in front of her?
What if she doesn't like the way I look?
What if I'm wearing too much cologne?
What if I didn't shower enough to kill my personal stink?
What if she's some crazy psycho that just looks really good?

And so on and so forth. So you short-circuit that process by jumping in and not hesitating. You essentially don't have time to whiff. The worst thing that can happen is that she says no and that's not the end of the world (despite any emo kid's assertion). Then you just move on and find another girl.[/QUOTE]You are so right about that, because I tend to worry about everything, end up getting into a nervous breakdown, and don't ask a girl out. I usually think about having a little dandruff in my hair will turn her off (since my shampoo didn't take care of it), my breath doesn't smell fresh enough, I'll say something stupid, worry about my hair being too long, and so on.

That girl I was talking about, I gotta say something funny I just found out about her. She lives in the apartment building next to me, lol. I just happened to run into her a few minutes ago. It might be harder for me to date someone else (although there are tons of good looking girls living in my apartment complex, and I even happen to be surrounded by girls, but never met them).

I dunno, I might try to invite some girl over to my apartment (who lives near me, which might be a good start). I just hope they wouldn't mind seeing a bunch of video games, Chicago Bulls bedding and shower curtain, etc.

Although, I did see a girl today on the bus (who looked decent, but couldn't talk because I happened to see it as she got off the bus) who had a picture of Chrono Cross which she drew (she might be into RPGs or stuff I like). I know where she was at, so hopefully I see her again.

EDIT: So basically, I'm supposing to make a move or something on a girl as soon as I see one I may like, not giving her much chance to think? I seriously didn't know girls were like that, because I thought I was suppose to take my time a little and hopefully get to know them first, before dating.
 
TMK, start flirting with fat chicks. fat chicks need lovin too. they wont be so quick to reject you, so you dont have to worry. after hangin with the fat chicks for a bit youll be a lot more confident and youll be able to move up the attractive ladder.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']EDIT: So basically, I'm supposing to make a move or something on a girl as soon as I see one I may like, not giving her much chance to think? I seriously didn't know girls were like that, because I thought I was suppose to take my time a little and hopefully get to know them first, before dating.[/quote]

It's not just girls. It's both of you. For the girl, it limits her from forming the wrong kind of impression about you. For you, it prevents you from engaging yourself in a bout of analysis paralysis. You don't have time to analyze yourself to death. It's easy to defeat a case of the whiffs. When you're at home, make a list of all the whiffs you can think of and think of ways to either prevent or stop them. In your particular case, if you've got dandruff, consider a better, stronger type of shampoo and conditioner. Bad breath? Make sure you're brushing your tongue and rinsing w/ mouthwash as well as carrying some mints (I prefer altoids) just in case. Chronic chapped lips? Carry chapstick. Contacts, carry some Cleareye or saline. Body odor? Take a shower & use some body spray. Yellow teeth? Teeth whitener & a visit to your dentist for a cleaning. And so on and so forth.

And when you say make a move, I hope you mean start a conversation. Most girls don't appreciate random strangers copping a tit. There's only one place it's even near to actually touch a stranger's body - on the dance floor of a nightclub and even then, you should mind your manners. Girls are verbal and gestural communicators by nature so you need to talk to them using their methods.
 
I asked the girl I mentioned before to join me for a cup of coffee. She said that she's already juggling two other guys but gave me her number and said that she likes coffee. I take that to mean "don't worry about the other guys, call me anyway, I'm still interested."

(edit)I feel like I nearly sabotaged myself. After she gave me her number I asked if she wanted mine. When she said, "Oh you'll call me", I then mumbled something as I walked away. Not the best impression to leave her with.
 
[quote name='Filbert']I asked the girl I mentioned before to join me for a cup of coffee. She said that she's already juggling two other guys but gave me her number and said that she likes coffee. I take that to mean "don't worry about the other guys, call me anyway, I'm still interested."

(edit)I feel like I nearly sabotaged myself. After she gave me her number I asked if she wanted mine. When she said, "Oh you'll call me", I then mumbled something as I walked away. Not the best impression to leave her with.[/quote]
In your case, you were the target in that situation. That's how a true master of the game plays - controlling the flow of intent. Kudos to her. Notice how she already told you she's got 2 guys waiting in the wings? She basically told you her time is precious so you better be worth it. And even if you take the "i'm better than her" route, and decide not call her, as she's already mentioned, she's got 2 other boytoys who will keep her company that you won't even be a short-term memory and she can always add more to her harem.

Anyhow, in certain circumstances, such as your scenario, you never want to give your number out anyway, since, unless you've already established she's not a psychobitch, you don't want to give her a way to track you down. Believe me, I speak from experience.:bomb: You should always endeavor to get her number first and don't give her yours unless she explicitly asks for it... and even then give it up reluctantly. You want her to work hard to get you, not the other way around (which is the traditionally accepted routine).
 
[quote name='jaykrue']In your case, you were the target in that situation. That's how a true master of the game plays - controlling the flow of intent.[/quote]

To be honest I don't know what you mean by that.


Anyway, I still don't know when I should call her. I won't really be free any evening other than Saturday and Sunday. Not to mention that I asked her to join me for a cup of coffee and I've never even been to a coffee place myself.
 
[quote name='Filbert']To be honest I don't know what you mean by that.


Anyway, I still don't know when I should call her. I won't really be free any evening other than Saturday and Sunday. Not to mention that I asked her to join me for a cup of coffee and I've never even been to a coffee place myself.[/quote]

I wouldn't even bother calling her, bro.

She's batting 0-2, if you ask me. First she tells you that you're third in line, and then she arrogantly says "Oh you'll call me"......you don't need that kind of headache. Avoid chicks who are so openly and blatantly playing games with your affections and the affections of two other guys as well. Also, starting a "relationship" at such an obvious disadvantage is not good practice.

Find a woman with some class and humility.
 
TMK, don't take my path and only lap up what muff throws itself at you. Hit on girls and be aggressive and you will probably get a lot more stank on your hang down. At worst, you get better at stank hunting some slam pigs.

All of my relationships have basically thrown themselves at me, I'm not tryign to sound pimp or anything, this is actually not bragging its regretting. Ive never really had to work hard to nail a fine piece of beefcurtainry. If I had been aggressive and gone picking at the camel toe more, I probably would have shucked alot more clam.
 
[quote name='Filbert']To be honest I don't know what you mean by that.


Anyway, I still don't know when I should call her. I won't really be free any evening other than Saturday and Sunday. Not to mention that I asked her to join me for a cup of coffee and I've never even been to a coffee place myself.[/quote]

I mean that the girl was in complete control of the situation and that you had your strings pulled like a marionette. She'd already shown you that, if you ultimately weren't that interested in her, she wouldn't care that much about it since she's got 2 other guys to play with and that any time she spent w/ you had better be worth it.

I say if you decide to take interest in her, call her up for coffee in the afternoon (who the fcuk drinks coffee in the evening, anyway? Pretentious hipsters, that's who) but don't invest any deep feeling in it; stay aloof. Also, the time in between your coffee date you should actively be looking for other girls to connect with. There's no ring on your finger nor hers so you're not under any obligation to show any loyalty or commitment to her. In fact, because she's already indicated that she's already got 2 in the wings says that she probably won't show any loyalty or commitment to you, either. Turning the situation around on her has benefits. It displays your high value as a man and turns the situation control over to you. If she sees that it's your time that is truly valuable in comparison to hers, she's more liable to drop the other 2 guys in your favor. But a girl like that, I wouldn't invest too deeply; she's just be a nice fcuk buddy or friend w/ benefits.
 
I mentioned the evenings because I wouldn't be available before 5 those days anyway.

I think I'll call her to set up a meeting over coffee. Get to know her more and see if we really hit it off. If not basically forget about her with the assumption that if she wants to continue the relationship she'll have to make the next move. Preferrably by ending the relationships with the other guys.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']TMK, don't take my path and only lap up what muff throws itself at you. Hit on girls and be aggressive and you will probably get a lot more stank on your hang down. At worst, you get better at stank hunting some slam pigs.

All of my relationships have basically thrown themselves at me, I'm not tryign to sound pimp or anything, this is actually not bragging its regretting. Ive never really had to work hard to nail a fine piece of beefcurtainry. If I had been aggressive and gone picking at the camel toe more, I probably would have shucked alot more clam.[/quote] :lol: A cunning linguist. Ahem.
 
[quote name='Filbert']I mentioned the evenings because I wouldn't be available before 5 those days anyway.

I think I'll call her to set up a meeting over coffee. Get to know her more and see if we really hit it off. If not basically forget about her with the assumption that if she wants to continue the relationship she'll have to make the next move. Preferrably by ending the relationships with the other guys.[/quote]

I can predict, with 100% accuracy, that this potential relationship will end badly. In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that, if you end up dating her, she will eventually cheat on you with the next piece of ass that comes up to her and asks her to go get coffee.
 
Well you've successfully scared me. Although I still feel I should go through with the coffee date for experience at least. Ah, I don't know.
 
[quote name='Filbert']Well you've successfully scared me. Although I still feel I should go through with the coffee date for experience at least. Ah, I don't know.[/quote]

I'm just saying, from the beginning this girl sounds like a loser. No one needs the trouble of dealing with such an obtuse mate.
 
[quote name='Filbert']Well you've successfully scared me. Although I still feel I should go through with the coffee date for experience at least. Ah, I don't know.[/quote]

No reason to be scared (yet). She's just a girl. In 95% of all scenarios, she's just a reasonably normal girl and the worst thing she could do is say "no you don't interest me" and go back to her 2 boytoys. So your net loss is simply time, money, and one girl. Fortunately, there isn't just one girl out there in the whole world so you can just move on to the next one. Seriously, I don't think there's anything wrong w/ just casually dating someone (read: not for long term). Plus the more you date around, the more experienced you become at a few things:

- meeting women (and by extension, meeting people to network)
- becoming more comfortable in social situations
- figuring out what type of woman you like
- knowing what turns women on/off (both in and out of bed)

These things will all eventually help you when you do find that someone you're ready to settle down with. For this particular girl, don't invest your feelings too deeply into her and I bet you'll enjoy the time that you do spend w/ her. Don't take her too seriously; she's not the long term relationship type.
 
[quote name='SteveMcQ']:lol: A cunning linguist. Ahem.[/quote]

Thank you, thank you very much. I was hoping somebody would get a rise out of that. You're not so bad yourself.
 
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