I like milk.

[quote name='Lootr2Core'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']you shouldnt be drinkin milk Its not natural, u know that we are the only species that purposely drinks another animals milk. I am not sayin I dont like it or its biproducts, but I do think there are better ways to get the Calcium u need for a growing body and strong bones.[/quote]

..um like what other ways can we get calcium?[/quote]


good lord man, you haven't seen forida orange juice with calcium ? Even Total brand Cereal has more calcium then the milk you pour on it. There are tons of ways to get calcium. It's nuts how the milk industry actually has propaganda campains.

wow look how much this guy hates milk: http://www.notmilk.com/
 
[quote name='Cracka']i heard about this one chick...


and her milkshake supposedly brings all the boys to the yard..[/quote]

haha, hers is better than yours
 
I just had a nice glass of soy milk. But without the real thing where would all the ice cream and other good milky stuff go?
 
I remember back in the 80's I used to see comercials for milk where the kid looked in the mirror and saw himself in the future. Due to these commercials I drank a hell of a lot of milk. Now at age 21 I am 6'4" and never broken a bone due to my insanely high bone density. I would like to now say thank you to milk.
 
I usually don't drink much milk, but I had the BEST milkshake yesterday. This is an awesome topic though. Any topic in which the words "destruction of all cows" and "I love it when pregnant women shoot breast milk into your gaping butthole" are typed is a-ok in my book.
 
[quote name='KingDox'][quote name='Lootr2Core'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']you shouldnt be drinkin milk Its not natural, u know that we are the only species that purposely drinks another animals milk. I am not sayin I dont like it or its biproducts, but I do think there are better ways to get the Calcium u need for a growing body and strong bones.[/quote]

..um like what other ways can we get calcium?[/quote]


good lord man, you haven't seen forida orange juice with calcium ? Even Total brand Cereal has more calcium then the milk you pour on it. There are tons of ways to get calcium. It's nuts how the milk industry actually has propaganda campains.

wow look how much this guy hates milk: http://www.notmilk.com/[/quote]

I believe he was arguing about 'natural ways' I don't think that infusing something with calcium is a natural thing (hey I love milk, love OJ, love cereal think its greath) but this fella thinks that drinking milk isn't natural so I doubt he would think that it was 'natural' to eat supplimented cereals
 
If all the cows were gone, we'd still have goats, etc.
And if all the goats were gone we'd find something else.
Why is it we can make cheap milk substitues but not cheap petroleum fuel substittues. Give me my hydrogen/solar/soy-milk car.

Millk rules. I get depressed if I just drink 'pop' for too long.
S.O.D. wrote a song about milk, so it must rule.

There's only one thing I hate about milk: Those disgusting ads with celebreties and their milk 'mustaches'......yech.......
 
I thought this was an interesting topic, and had to add my opinion...

I'm a vegan actually, which means no meat, eggs, milk, etc. for me. I do it because of animal rights reasons, but I know not everyone here cares about that, so I did just think I'd correct a few errors here.

First of all, calcium from milk is not necessarily the most effective source. In fact, countries that drink significantly less milk, such asian or african countries, and get sometimes less than half the calcium we do, and usually from plant sources, actually have about 1/5 the bone fractures and cases of osteoperosis americans do.

It's also untrue that milk cows WANT to be milked. Think about it, the only reason they produce milk is because they are pregnant, they make exactly enough for their child, and then when the child is mature, they stop. However, the milk industry uses hormones and various chemicals to make the cows produce milk in horribly unhealthy levels. The cows are also kept perpetually pregnant, usually by means of mechanical rape, because no cow naturally produces a dozen calves, one after another.

As far as the taste of soymilk goes, it's definately acquired. It doesn't taste exactly like milk, if that's what you're expecting, you're going to be disappointed. However, it has a very nice taste on its own if you ask me. Also, in terms of cooking, it works exactly like milk, so yes, it's entirely possibly to make milk and egg free cakes, and then you definately don't notice the difference. I actually just had a vegan barbecue a few days ago, and made a few pies and cookies without any animal products, it's not hard at all, and if you think they taste lousy, drop by my house and try a few, I think you'd be surpsied.

All in all, the over abundance of cows really is hurting our environment. Even if you don't care about the lives of the cows, you should realize that it really is hurting you in the end as well. Deforestation, gas production, even world hunger can be attributed to the meat and dairy industry. The majority of the food grown in the United States goes into feeding meat and dairy animals. If the US has a mainly plant based diet, we could have enough to end world hunger. Sadly, most people are more concerned with having their hamburgers and milkshakes than the state of the world in another 50-100 years.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Yeah, I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.[/quote]

You win I only have a level 3 merit badge :roll:
 
[quote name='Nirvana19105']. The majority of the food grown in the United States goes into feeding meat and dairy animals. If the US has a mainly plant based diet, we could have enough to end world hunger. [/quote]

Do you have something to back this statement up? Are you into yoga and aromatherapy?
 
[quote name='snotknocker'][quote name='Nirvana19105']. The majority of the food grown in the United States goes into feeding meat and dairy animals. If the US has a mainly plant based diet, we could have enough to end world hunger. [/quote]

Do you have something to back this statement up? Are you into yoga and aromatherapy?[/quote]

probably got it from vegan weekly. For every animal he doesnt eat, I eat 3. So there.
 
[quote name='BigNick'][quote name='snotknocker'][quote name='Nirvana19105']. The majority of the food grown in the United States goes into feeding meat and dairy animals. If the US has a mainly plant based diet, we could have enough to end world hunger. [/quote]

Do you have something to back this statement up? Are you into yoga and aromatherapy?[/quote]

probably got it from vegan weekly. For every animal he doesnt eat, I eat 3. So there.[/quote]

How do we know it's a he?

I'll take vegetarian psycho babble for a $100 please Alex. :D
 
[quote name='snotknocker'][quote name='BigNick'][quote name='snotknocker'][quote name='Nirvana19105']. The majority of the food grown in the United States goes into feeding meat and dairy animals. If the US has a mainly plant based diet, we could have enough to end world hunger. [/quote]

Do you have something to back this statement up? Are you into yoga and aromatherapy?[/quote]

probably got it from vegan weekly. For every animal he doesnt eat, I eat 3. So there.[/quote]

How do we know it's a he?

I'll take vegetarian psycho babble for a $100 please Alex. :D[/quote]

dont know if its a he, so I will now say shim.
 
I'm going to Wendy's on my way home for a Triple and a large Frosty and amazingly I don't feel the least bit guilty. I love cows for what they have given to me.
 
[quote name='Nirvana19105']

All in all, the over abundance of cows really is hurting our environment. Even if you don't care about the lives of the cows, you should realize that it really is hurting you in the end as well. Deforestation, gas production, even world hunger can be attributed to the meat and dairy industry. The majority of the food grown in the United States goes into feeding meat and dairy animals. If the US has a mainly plant based diet, we could have enough to end world hunger. Sadly, most people are more concerned with having their hamburgers and milkshakes than the state of the world in another 50-100 years.[/quote]

World hunger is not something you can "fix" by getting rid of all the cows. You could hand over big sacks of money and food to every underprivileged person in the world and things would revert back to the way it is now within a short period of time. Human beings do not learn anything from free hand outs. If you could wave a magic wand and make every overweight person thin it would be a matter of months before all those people were fat again. It's the same way with world hunger. That’s why I don't send money to those people on TV who moan and cry about all the little hungry kids all over the world. OK so they are in a bad spot, but if overpopulation in their country is a problem maybe they should do something about it. If a guy in Ethiopia makes $1 a day doing back breaking work, should he really be having 7 kids? If I feel like ending world hunger I just send a box of condoms to those organizations begging for money. Is it harsh? Maybe, but the harsh reality is that if we don’t do something about the population explosion on this planet soon, it will be like a swarm of locusts on a wheat field. Everything will be consumed. [/rant]
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']I hate milk. The only way I can stand to drink it is if there's chocolate or strawberry syrup in it. But I do love cheese.

If you want to get really hyper really fast, and only for a few seconds, mix one packet of sugar, with one of those tiny dairy creamers, and take the thing like a shot.[/quote]

I do this too :)...but i don't drink so, this compensates for it :)
 
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[quote name='Nirvana19105']
All in all, the over abundance of cows really is hurting our environment. Even if you don't care about the lives of the cows, you should realize that it really is hurting you in the end as well. Deforestation, gas production, even world hunger can be attributed to the meat and dairy industry. The majority of the food grown in the United States goes into feeding meat and dairy animals. If the US has a mainly plant based diet, we could have enough to end world hunger. Sadly, most people are more concerned with having their hamburgers and milkshakes than the state of the world in another 50-100 years.[/quote]

OK I grew up in cattle country of Western South Dakota, and let me tell you there was not an abundance of food that was grown to feed these cattle, unless you count western prairie grass as FOOD. Nothing much grows in West River SD aside from prarie grass and CATTLE that feed off it. Now they are in a 5 year drought and many herds are being thined because there is not the natural food souce for the cattle. Deforestation liknked to the cattle industry? Good lord where do you live? that is not the case. Sask-Texas the big beef producing states are not choppping down trees for cattle IN FACT CRP the conservation protection program (where farmers and ranchers are paid a little fee to not have their land in production) has (i believe) more acres in it than actual ranch land! Funny thing about plants, they are harvested by FUEL burning tractors...which is actually not so good for the environment, we already have a surplus of food in America (and not counting South America and the Punjabi region of India to feed the world many times over! CRAP I"M GETTING ANGRY AND FEELING LIKE THE HULK FORGIVE MY BAD TYPING AND RAGE ARGUE

dangit I gotta stop. feeling to Hulk LIke.. Starman wanna hop in?
 
[quote name='Lootr2Core']

OK I grew up in cattle country of Western South Dakota,
.. Starman wanna hop in?[/quote]

Hey you arent from western SD :lol: Youre one of them eastern SD city folks.
 
[quote name='starman9000'][quote name='Lootr2Core']

OK I grew up in cattle country of Western South Dakota,
.. Starman wanna hop in?[/quote]

Hey you arent from western SD :lol: Youre one of them eastern SD city folks.[/quote]

Shaq fu you, what did you go to school in North Dakota let me guess Fargo or one of those lame ass East River things (sioux falls, grand forks, Fargo, Moorhead ..which in east dakota) If you had an ounce of SD resoning in your head you know that Chamberlain, PIerre, Mobridge, Winner, Platte while all tech. East river are in SD lore WEst River.. dang if I had a tumble weed right now I'd make you do a boy george and tumble for ya.
 
Shaq fu me? thats a bit harsh, but I guess you "west river" guys are a bit rough around the edges.
But I suppose I should give you some support, western So Dak is definately not a place to be growing food to supply the world. Im not sure what kind of food you would expect to grow in cattle country to feed the world. I mean come on, have you ever seen Starship Troopers? The alien planet is Western Sodak (well part of it anyway), not exactly fertile crescent.

You know, maybe its Africa's fault for not planting more crops in their deserts, they just let all that land go to waste so they can ride their dune buggies.

Edit: Sorry western Sodak is a place to grow food....cattle.
 
I love responding to you, although I really want nirvanna to talk back. I know a few ranchers that will gladly give up ranching....and they are coming to live with you. And use your stuff, and just basically use your resources. Hey if you love the planet you shoulld welcome this family (and all the others) if you don't well you are a hypocrit.
 
I'm a vegan actually, which means no meat, eggs, milk, etc. for me. I do it because of animal rights reasons, but I know not everyone here cares about that, so I did just think I'd correct a few errors here.
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.. see i dont understand this.. the animals are gonna be killed whether you eat them or not.. and if you dont eat them, we'll have extra. and if we have extra, we'll just feed it to other animals... MWUHAHHAHAHAHA YOU CAN NEVER WIN!!
 
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