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So basically, can anyone suggest a begginner friendly RPG, for any current gen system with a good story and solid battle system that wont have me sitting in menus stressing over where to put points so I dont completely paint myself into a skill corner? Turn based or active is fine, I just don't want to be in a situation where I make a few bad decisions in the beginning and it prevents me from doing something cool or fun 20 hours later.
Any of the FFs, the Tales games, Shadow Hearts games, Valkyrie Profile, Baten Kaitos, lots more...

Most console RPGs don't involve distibuting skill points. So you can really pick any of them.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Any of the FFs, the Tales games, Shadow Hearts games, Valkyrie Profile, Baten Kaitos, lots more...

Most console RPGs don't involve distibuting skill points. So you can really pick any of them.[/QUOTE]

Valkyrie Profile would probably kick someone's ass if they haven't played at least a few RPGs before. Any of FFs or Tales games are definitely good gateway drugs though. I'd also recommend the Mario RPGs even though they're unconventional since they are very accessible.
 
Ya skill points = sucks. I'd definitely recommend Tales cause all of your characters gain stats even if you don't use them. I don't think, I forget, if the same can be said for FF.
 
Valkyrie Profile isn't very begginer friendly. Since you can't just infinitely run around and level up you have to be careful with what you spend your money on and who you need to level up. Plus getting the good ending is something you'd need a faqs for and follow step by step, and even then it's confusing. I couldn't imagine getting that ending by pure luck. The boss Bloodbane was pretty darn hard. Much more difficult than the actual last boss. Lastly if you don't have a PSP you'd end up spending more than $150 for the PS1 version of this game. Not recomended for a non-hardcore RPG player.

But anything else they said would be okay.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Valkyrie Profile would probably kick someone's ass if they haven't played at least a few RPGs before. Any of FFs or Tales games are definitely good gateway drugs though. I'd also recommend the Mario RPGs even though they're unconventional since they are very accessible.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I played the GC Paper Mario, and it was great. I'll have to wait for that Virtual Console to play the N64 version.

I know DQ8 is only $20 and it looks like a lot of fun, but I hear its pretty difficult, is that another game that would kick my ass? :) From what I've seen the art style looks awesome, and the reviews are extremely positive.

Is Tales of Symphonia part of that series you are talking about? I got it at Target for $15 months ago, but I never played it. Would that be a good next choice?
 
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Is Tales of Symphonia part of that series you are talking about? I got it at Target for $15 months ago, but I never played it. Would that be a good next choice?[/quote]I would highly recommend it. The basic gameplay is pretty simple, and the real-time battle system is a lot of fun.
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']Valkyrie Profile isn't very begginer friendly. Since you can't just infinitely run around and level up you have to be careful with what you spend your money on and who you need to level up. Plus getting the good ending is something you'd need a faqs for and follow step by step, and even then it's confusing. I couldn't imagine getting that ending by pure luck. The boss Bloodbane was pretty darn hard. Much more difficult than the actual last boss. Lastly if you don't have a PSP you'd end up spending more than $150 for the PS1 version of this game. Not recomended for a non-hardcore RPG player.

But anything else they said would be okay.[/QUOTE]
I'd still recommend it. Sometimes you have to jump in the deep end. There's nothing wrong with trying out a game that many people say is "difficult." You like it, and you work at it. Not to mention all he asked for were RPGs without skill point allocation.

Plus damn, the game isn't even that hard. Only if you're going for the best ending is it challenging.
Is Tales of Symphonia part of that series you are talking about? I got it at Target for $15 months ago, but I never played it. Would that be a good next choice?
You own ToS, but haven't played it? Yeah, you shouldn't be asking for more RPG suggestions. You should just be playing that game.
 
[quote name='jalu6']Yeah, I played the GC Paper Mario, and it was great. I'll have to wait for that Virtual Console to play the N64 version.

I know DQ8 is only $20 and it looks like a lot of fun, but I hear its pretty difficult, is that another game that would kick my ass? :) From what I've seen the art style looks awesome, and the reviews are extremely positive.

Is Tales of Symphonia part of that series you are talking about? I got it at Target for $15 months ago, but I never played it. Would that be a good next choice?[/QUOTE]

DQ8 is semi-difficult compared to Final Fantasy, but you can level up to where you need to be without an issue if you're really struggling. If you have Symphonia though, throw that shit in the GC right now. It's the best game in the series that's come out in the US so far.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Not to mention all he asked for were RPGs without skill point allocation.[/QUOTE]

He also asked for current gen systems, unless he wants to play on a PSP. And even though it doesn't have skill point allocation, the game limits the player with the time he has. Bottom line, I don't think this was a good recomendation. And the price man, the price!!! This is supposed to be CAG.

As for the difficulty it's above average, still harder than most RPGs.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions! I dont have a PSP (or a PS1 memory card, come to think of it) so I think I'll be throwing in Tales of Symphonia after work tonight. If I'm at BB and looking for something to pick up, I'll probably grab DQ8 since it still looks really interesting, but Tales is a good excuse to dust off the GC anyway.
 
Easy RPGs from the current gen? Since you have a GC, go with Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia. You'll really like both of them and that should take you at least a month to beat them both. One is active battle and one is turn based so you'll get your fill of both styles.
 
If you like easy and simple rpgs you should Lunar Blue,Lunar Silver or any FF games.If you like ultra easy fun rpgs try Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 and pokemon since there general demographic is aim toward kids and have very low difficulty settings
 
Tons of RPG's on all platforms recently. PS2 leads the pack but the DS has some of the most amazing RPG ever to grace a handheld. PS3 is getting an expanded version of Oblivion. In the next year or two the 360 will get two quality RPG's from MistWalker. It's an amazing time to be an RPG gamer.
 
[quote name='jalu6']Thanks for all the suggestions! I dont have a PSP (or a PS1 memory card, come to think of it) so I think I'll be throwing in Tales of Symphonia after work tonight. If I'm at BB and looking for something to pick up, I'll probably grab DQ8 since it still looks really interesting, but Tales is a good excuse to dust off the GC anyway.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't recomend DQ8, it is long and is a level grinder. I would suggest Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts or Wild Arms: Alter Code F.
 
[quote name='spoo']I wouldn't recomend DQ8, it is long and is a level grinder. I would suggest Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts or Wild Arms: Alter Code F.[/QUOTE]

I did beat both Kingdom Hearts games, but I never really considered them RPGs. I always thought of them more as action games with some FF characters thrown in. I've never actually played much FFX, but my roomate used to play it constantly, and I've seen enough of it that I doubt I'd want to play it again.

Don't know much about Wild Arms though. I'll have to check that one out.
 
I tought Wild Arms Alter Code: F was boring. I actually prefer the orginal for PS1. The translation and dialouge in WA AC:F was mind numbing. I was looking forward to playing it so much. But 30 hours in I had to quit, I was falling asleep. Trust me, don't get it.
 
I wouldn't recommend DQ8 because it sucks. I realize I'll probably be the only one to say that, but I found the game boring.

As far as Wild Arms, I liked Alter Code F. Granted it's not the best in the series. I think WA4 is the best one followed by WA3. Both are easy to find, and cheap.
 
I think I got to the last boss of Valkyrie Profile 2. But he killed me. I'll try again tomarrow morning. It sucks that you get all the best characters at the very end.

EDIT - After some rest, I finally took him down. Took me 3 tries. After beating it I'm still left wth questions about the story, here are a couple but Major Spoilers Ahead, be warned:

1. Why is Arngrim in this game? They explained why Lezard's hanging around the past, but still don't know what's up with Arngrim. Is it two diffrent people? Was he reincarnated?

2. Since this is a sequel in the past (think Back to the Future 2) does this mean the events in VP1 will never play out? It sure seems that way cause Brahms is dead & Odin seems to be gone as well.

Anyway's It's on my trade list now, so if someone wants it drop me a line it's up for grabs. Next on my list is SMT: Devil Summoner.
 
Traded in three pretty worthless games (one being FFX-2) and put $20 down on Tales of the Abyss, so I'm all set for tommorrow and to get that art cell.
 
Oh ya tales of the abyss comes out today. Hmm I won't be getting it though even though I want it bad. Might as well play the cheaper games I never got to play first. I might get it for Christmas though...do you think this game will eventually, or pretty soon, become a GH or get a price drop?
 
[quote name='Spades22']Oh ya tales of the abyss comes out today. Hmm I won't be getting it though even though I want it bad. Might as well play the cheaper games I never got to play first. I might get it for Christmas though...do you think this game will eventually, or pretty soon, become a GH or get a price drop?[/QUOTE]

Well, if it does it'll have to be out for a year. How much does Legendia sell for now? Did it drop to $19.99 yet?
 
Well I can wait a year...but ya comparing it to LEgendia would be nice. I bet it will sell a bit more though.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Did i hear someone say the Lunar games are easy? No sir, they are not.[/QUOTE]
they are probably talking about hte PSOne remake.
 
Since Roufuss brought up FFX-2, am I the only one who found it unbearably boring at one point? I played it for 30 hours and could never progress furthur because of how boring it got.
 
I just got a 10% off coupon for CC, in OXM. If CC has TotA by either Thursday or the weekend, I'm going to buy it there. If they don't, I'm just going over to Best Buy since a buddy of mine works there (kind of want to buy a game where he rings it up).

[quote name='Roufuss']Traded in three pretty worthless games (one being FFX-2) and put $20 down on Tales of the Abyss, so I'm all set for tommorrow and to get that art cell.[/QUOTE]It's near impossible for me to get rid of an RPG. The only times I ever got rid of an RPG was because my Sega Saturn's internal battery went out for the third time (so I lost all my data saves) and .Hack//QUARANTINE (since I also had INFECTION and was probably never going to beat it).

I'm going to be very busy buying RPGs this month. I'm definitely buying TotA, FFXII Collector's Edition, Children of Mana, and Magical Starsign. If I can make room, I'll get SMT Devil Summoner, .Hack//G.U., Summon Night Swordcraft Story 2, and Yggdra Union. What's the chances of me beating all those games? Around 0.1%. I just love RPGs too much to pass all them up.
 
[quote name='Rozz']Since Roufuss brought up FFX-2, am I the only one who found it unbearably boring at one point? I played it for 30 hours and could never progress furthur because of how boring it got.[/QUOTE]
I found the game to be unbearably awful. I liked FFX, and and X-2 was blasphemy. As far as I'm concerned the game never existed.
 
[quote name='sprintsucks5892']Okay, I want to buy either SMT: Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga 1.
Which is your favorite and which do you reccomend?[/QUOTE]

Between DDS and Nocturne? Nocturne. DDS has more story and DDS 2 is probably better than Nocturne, but Nocturne is double the length of DDS 1 and it's damn good. There's a lot more to do and it's definitely darker than DDS which is kinda cool. If you're only buying 1 game, get Nocturne.
 
[quote name='sprintsucks5892']Okay, I want to buy either SMT: Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga 1.
Which is your favorite and which do you reccomend?[/QUOTE]
DDS1. DDS is much more easier to get into. It also has a better story and characters. Plus you can get DDS2 which is right after the first game. And it is not like DDS1 is a short game, it can easily last 50 hours.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']
It's near impossible for me to get rid of an RPG. The only times I ever got rid of an RPG was because my Sega Saturn's internal battery went out for the third time (so I lost all my data saves) and .Hack//QUARANTINE (since I also had INFECTION and was probably never going to beat it).
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I don't have the same attachment to shitty games or games I don't care about... this month I sold about 15 RPG's alone, all for PS2, alot of newer ones like Grandia 3, Tales of Legendia, Suikoden V. I never even touched most of them, and to be honest, my RPG schedule is going to go like this:

Tales of the Abyss ---> Valkyrie Profile 2 ---> SMT Devil Summoner

Eventually I'll rebuy Tales of Legendia and Suikoden V to play when there is nothing more interesting to me, and by that time the games will be less than $20 if history means anything. I'm not going to buy games anymore just because I can, it's how I got into this situation of too many games to begin with. I'd love to buy all the RPG's for October but with two RPG's already to go through with a third I'm ready to buy, I gotta taper it off.

I was NEVER going to touch FFX-2 again, I got $12 for it after the trade 3 bonus at Gamestop, that money is much better suited towards Abyss.
 
[quote name='62t']DDS1. DDS is much more easier to get into. It also has a better story and characters. Plus you can get DDS2 which is right after the first game. And it is not like DDS1 is a short game, it can easily last 50 hours.[/QUOTE]

For the record, I finished DDS 1 and 2 in about 24 hours each. That's a reasonable length, but considering that I spent twice that time on Nocturne (though I admittedly did more side quests), I think Nocturne is a better value.

DDS is probably easier to get into though... it won't kick your ass quite as much at first.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/talesoftheabyss/review.html?sid=6159629

Tales of the Abyss Review: 7.9. Pretty damn good considering we've seen 2 entries in the series this year already.[/QUOTE]I'd agree, since most RPGs get ripped on by U.S. reviewers (especially many of my favorites). I'm definitely buying it, especially since I heard it was one of the best Tales games (the new battle system is really appealing to me).

That reminds me, I need to post an announcement in my "Tales of ________" Facebook group (I created the only Tales series group). I might change the Tales of Symphonia pic to a Tales of the Abyss pic
[quote name='Roufuss']I don't have the same attachment to shitty games or games I don't care about... this month I sold about 15 RPG's alone, all for PS2, alot of newer ones like Grandia 3, Tales of Legendia, Suikoden V. I never even touched most of them, and to be honest, my RPG schedule is going to go like this:

Tales of the Abyss ---> Valkyrie Profile 2 ---> SMT Devil Summoner

Eventually I'll rebuy Tales of Legendia and Suikoden V to play when there is nothing more interesting to me, and by that time the games will be less than $20 if history means anything. I'm not going to buy games anymore just because I can, it's how I got into this situation of too many games to begin with. I'd love to buy all the RPG's for October but with two RPG's already to go through with a third I'm ready to buy, I gotta taper it off.

I was NEVER going to touch FFX-2 again, I got $12 for it after the trade 3 bonus at Gamestop, that money is much better suited towards Abyss.[/QUOTE]Ah. It's understandable. Come to think of it, I need to take advantage of that bonus soon to get rid of Metal Slug 4/5 (due to Anthology coming to PSP).

Did you ever try to beat FFX-2, if you don't mind me asking? I'll admit I somewhat had to force myself to play through it, but I did (that was a time I had much less RPGs compared to now, on PS2, so it wasn't completely a problem). I'll admit I only touched my copy twice since I beat it. :p Not sure if anyone had a similar experience, I beat the game in 23 hours and was up to Level 75 on all characters, since leveling up was so simple.

I put up the Tales of the Abyss avatar and sig, since I plan to change my sig/avatar on Wednesday, during a big RPG release. Magical Starsign, FFXII, and/or Children of Mana will be next.
[quote name='Chacrana']For the record, I finished DDS 1 and 2 in about 24 hours each. That's a reasonable length, but considering that I spent twice that time on Nocturne (though I admittedly did more side quests), I think Nocturne is a better value.

DDS is probably easier to get into though... it won't kick your ass quite as much at first.[/QUOTE]From my experience, I made it to the very end of DDS1, but I just can't beat it, due to be severly under leveled and whenever I try to gain level ups, an enemy does some attack that knocks out my entire party. I still love the game, but that's what normally happens. I'm around 27 hours though. I have only played DDS2 for 4-5 hours though, due to buying too many games around DDS2 release. As for Nocturned, I'm halfway through the game. Personally, I liked it more than the DDS series, but I'm around 20 hours into it (half way through). The reason I haven't progressed is because I forgot where to go. :(
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']
From my experience, I made it to the very end of DDS1, but I just can't beat it, due to be severly under leveled and whenever I try to gain level ups, an enemy does some attack that knocks out my entire party. I still love the game, but that's what normally happens. I'm around 27 hours though. I have only played DDS2 for 4-5 hours though, due to buying too many games around DDS2 release. As for Nocturned, I'm halfway through the game. Personally, I liked it more than the DDS series, but I'm around 20 hours into it (half way through). The reason I haven't progressed is because I forgot where to go. :([/QUOTE]

Leveling up in DDS 1 is simple... gotta go to the Avenpura (name is probably wrong) waterways, people drop tons of exp... do some optional bosses, too.
 
Anybody think it's worth ordering the new Tales from GS/EB for the art cell? Or should I just wait for TRU?

Also, do you guys think with everyone going for the LE version of FF XII that the regular edition will become the sought after version?
 
If you just want the preorder item,just purchase it then return the item.This way you can the artcell for free,most preorder items don't have a sku.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Anybody think it's worth ordering the new Tales from GS/EB for the art cell? Or should I just wait for TRU?

Also, do you guys think with everyone going for the LE version of FF XII that the regular edition will become the sought after version?[/QUOTE]
no because only 1 store (Eb/gamestop) is selling the LE
 
Nocturne > DDS

The game has so much depth, and it's extremly open ended. But that might turn some people off cause it's not a simple RPG. It's challanging, and you can literally get any enemy on your team (with the exception of 2 - 3 bosses.) You ever see an enemy in an RPG and say, "I wish I had that guy on my team?" All your choices effect the outcome of the game. While it's not very character driven it has a dark, moody atmosphere that fits perfectly into Nocturne.

The best part of this game is fusing demons to create super powerful ones, to take on the battlefield and slaughter all the little weak demons. You can create any demon with any skills you want. You can make your perfect team of doom. The fiend class has some of the most awsome demons. And all the demons are real mythological beings taken from around the world. You can read their bios and learn a little something.

The only downfall is I got the neutral ending which was boring. But that was my fault. I wish I would've just picked a side.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Anybody think it's worth ordering the new Tales from GS/EB for the art cell? Or should I just wait for TRU?

Also, do you guys think with everyone going for the LE version of FF XII that the regular edition will become the sought after version?[/QUOTE]I've been screwed too many times with bonuses where I never get them at EB, so I just said screw it and, I'm going to buy the game somewhere else (probably CC).
 
Does anyone know why the guide for Abyss isn't coming out until 10-24? I could have sworn it came out with the game, but sure enough, it wasn't at my EB this morning, and gamestop.com lists the guide as 10-24.

Why even bother releasing a guide if it's two weeks after the game has come out? I'll have completely beaten the game by then... good job, Brady.

The art cell is pretty nice, as well.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I've been screwed too many times with bonuses where I never get them at EB, so I just said screw it and, I'm going to buy the game somewhere else (probably CC).[/QUOTE]
you are not missing much, the art cell is not that great.
 
Just picked up Devil Summoner. I couldn't help myself. I looked through the guide and it didn't look like it was worth $20.
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']Just picked up Devil Summoner. I couldn't help myself. I looked through the guide and it didn't look like it was worth $20.[/QUOTE]

Phew... so the game actually came out... I'm always nervous when I'm excited about an upcoming game because I feel like the company's going to delay it at the last second...

Anyway, when I'm back home tomorrow I'm grabbing it for sure.
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']Just picked up Devil Summoner. I couldn't help myself. I looked through the guide and it didn't look like it was worth $20.[/QUOTE]I have so much to crap to buy this month, that I just had to hold off on Devil Summoner. The only thing that worries me about the game is that action RPGs haven't had too big of a success with me (turn-based suits me much better). After I get FFXII (or pay it in full), I'll probably get it.

I'm debating whether I should stick with the collector's edition of FFXII. I'm kind of short on $$ right now, but I am one of the bigger Final Fantasy fans and missing out on it might hurt me in the long run. The only thing an extra $10 would be used for is to buy more RPGs I probably won't play for a while (since FFXII would have priority).
 
Just got my copy of TotA in today and found it odd ( though no biggie ) that on the back of the art cell it just says " Limited Edtion of 24,000 ". Do they not number these anymore?
 
I tried to get Tales of the Abyss at Wal-Mart today. I stopped by around lunchtime and the guy said it was supposed to be in but only one person knew where the games were located in the back. I hung around for about 15 minutes to see if she would show up but she never did. I called back a half hour ago and the guy that worked there said the game might or might not come in at all. I might as well just order it online for 30 bucks and bite on the shipping. I'm still coming out ahead compared to buying it at Crapstop.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Does anyone know why the guide for Abyss isn't coming out until 10-24? I could have sworn it came out with the game, but sure enough, it wasn't at my EB this morning, and gamestop.com lists the guide as 10-24.

Why even bother releasing a guide if it's two weeks after the game has come out? I'll have completely beaten the game by then... good job, Brady.

The art cell is pretty nice, as well.[/QUOTE]

QFT

by the time I receive my guide from amazon i could probably complete the game.I think I will be a bit patient and wait for guide to arrive.In meantime I should start playing my big pile of games.The art cell look pretty nice.I wonder is it actually "limited to 24,000".Most eb/gamestop around here still have plenty of artcells.I guess few people actually preorder Tales of abyss
 
Final Fantasy XII, I'd have to say is SO good thus far. I'm really impressed. The CG quality is amazing and the gameplay is a nice change from the traditional FF game.

I need to pick up Devil Summoner today. X_X
 
Chacrana - Well good news about Devil Summoner. The fusions are intact. I'm not sure if it's as deep as Nocturne's. But leveling up seems very quick at the moment. I'm only 2 hours in and already at level 6. Not like a SMT game at all. But it is just the begining. I expect it to get pretty hardcore later.

No voice acting, kinda of a shame.

EDIT - 3 hours in at level 10.
 
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