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...and I can't do a thing about it. I really feel stuck. I don't really like my job but I can't try something else because there are bills to pay and responsibilities at home to worry about. I only have free time on the weekends but usually that is spent running errands and preparing for the upcoming work week. I hate wishing away 5/7ths of my life. The funny thing is that I don't even know what I'd rather be doing. I don't think I am adjusting well to life outside of school... anyone else know where I'm coming from?
 
Yep. I'm being a bum, completely, for a few weeks, and i'm enjoying it. I need a job ASAP though. My body's actually on third shift. I thought i'd try something new. I sleep during the day and am up at night. I don't really like it much, though, having breakfast at 6pm is odd.
 
Well it's completely up to you if you really want to make something out of your life. There's no excuses, you just have to do it. There aren't any tricks, you just have to figure out what you need to do in order to make something out of your life and do it.

One of the most accurate things that I've learned about people is that they don't change unless they actually truly want to. No amount of nagging, talking about changing, speculation, etc. will get the job done. Unfortunately, by the point a person decides they want to change their life, it's often too late anyways.

So get moving. Not tomorrow, not next week, not later - do it today.
 
I noticed you were in NYC. The cities can twist most people's lives out of shape once they have settled down (stress of work, marriage, kids, traffic, bills).

I live in Atlanta and have contemplated moving to a less developed area. There I can focus and have more time for the important things.

Just a thought.
 
OP, I'm pretty sure that you're not alone. I think you should try to figure out what kind of job that you would enjoy, and then go after it. Also, give yourself small goals and then try to reach them, that should bring more satisfaction in your life.
 
I graduate in may... with a degree in Electrical Engineering (3.4 GPA). The catch is that I really hate Electrical Engineering. There is a large part of me that just wants find a ski resort and just snowboard for the rest of my life (scraping by). Then there is another sides of the dice where I want to follow my dreams (wow... back to school for game design). Mean while I have people telling me I should just go get a job and get over this shlump I'm in. So, while I aint in your shoes... I see them... and I don't want to try them on.
 
Wow,

It happens and I dont have much advice that isnt given.

Make sure you are not searching for short periods of happiness by spending and gaining debt. That is a one way ticket to feeling this way forever.
 
I know exactly how you feel. After attaining my bachelor's degree, I still can't earn anything in my field. Been working like a dog for nothing with no hope for the future.

Oh well. This is post 200 for me. I guess I can hope I make it to post 300.
 
[quote name='javeryh']there are bills to pay and responsibilities at home to worry about. [/quote]

heavy drinking helped me alleviate that type of anxiety

[quote name='javeryh']I only have free time on the weekends but usually that is spent running errands and preparing for the upcoming work week.
[/quote]
how do you spend two days preparing for the next five?

[quote name='javeryh'] I hate wishing away 5/7ths of my life. The funny thing is that I don't even know what I'd rather be doing. I don't think I am adjusting well to life outside of school... anyone else know where I'm coming from?[/quote]

I felt like that, so I went back to school while working full time. The plus is that you have no free time, so you know exactly what you will be doing every waking hour. Don't give me "I don't have time for school"...I work 40 hours, have a house, wife, two kids, and I'm going half time to Grad school...IT CAN BE DONE.
 
I work 48 hours a week, and I'm too tired to do shit else when I'm off. Luckly though I like what I do at work, and I live with my girlfriend so I'm not lonely. Unless we become moviestars, hit the lotto, or are born into rich families we all have to be slaves to society.
 
I hear you about feeling stuck. I got hired after college as a graphic artist. Dont get me wrong i love what i do i just hate the company i work for, it makes going to work an absolute drag. I rarely ever get to design something and when i do, the thing i make has to be changed 500 times becuase my bosses can't make their minds up. I make hardly any cash for what i do, and the ironic thing is, if i went somewhere else i'd get paid even less until i get many more years of work experience. I could try to find another job but there aren't many, if none at all jobs i'd qualify for. Sometimes i wonder why i graduated college early. Anyways long story short, try not to get discouraged... i think that probably any job sucks 75% of the time, or else it wouldn't be considered work. You'll eventually find your niche in something, try not to let it get you down bro.
 
[quote name='dwsscs']I noticed you were in NYC. [/quote]

I remember a little over ten years ago when I was in a similar situation to the OP. A friend offered to let me share his apartment in NYC. He told me "your share of the rent will be $1,000 a month." My mortgage payment today (over ten years later) is only $1,000 a month, and I've got a pretty decent home in a decent neighborhood in the Washington, DC suburbs.

What I'm trying to say is that living in NYC is hella expensive, so if you've got family/friends in Ohio or some other relatively inexpensive location, you might want to consider relocating. You're not helping yourself financially by living in a high-rent district, and I'm guessing it will be difficult for you to make the kind of life-altering decisions you will need to be making while also dealing with the stress/pressure of paying to live in NYC.
 
Don't get me wrong. I'm quite happy with my personal life as it currently stands.... it's just that my professional life is very unfulfilling. I don't ever want to be at work. When I wake up in the morning I'm always thinking... oh shit - another day of work...

Going back to school is not an option either. I've already got a BA, a BS and a JD. I think I got the JD just because I didn't like working after college...
 
[quote name='MaxBiaggi3'][quote name='dwsscs']I noticed you were in NYC. [/quote]

I remember a little over ten years ago when I was in a similar situation to the OP. A friend offered to let me share his apartment in NYC. He told me "your share of the rent will be $1,000 a month." My mortgage payment today (over ten years later) is only $1,000 a month, and I've got a pretty decent home in a decent neighborhood in the Washington, DC suburbs.

What I'm trying to say is that living in NYC is hella expensive, so if you've got family/friends in Ohio or some other relatively inexpensive location, you might want to consider relocating. You're not helping yourself financially by living in a high-rent district, and I'm guessing it will be difficult for you to make the kind of life-altering decisions you will need to be making while also dealing with the stress/pressure of paying to live in NYC.[/quote]

My house payment is $2000 a month.... for a condo, living in So Cal is crazy expensive. I'm contemplating move to somewhere in Nevada (Vegas), for the price I pay for my condo I could get a house with a pool and the works in Las Vegas.
 
Man after reading this post I figure there needs to be a counter-balance for those that really like their job.

I went to college and then grad school..muddled through but now 4 years later I just absolutly love what I'm doing, some weeks I end up working 80+ hours a week, other weeks maye 40 "hard hours'. But I enjoy it, I get a sense of accomplishment from it, and I help people. Now although I work alot, I have alot more energy and excitment and desire to do other things (like volunteer, work on ambulance crew, play with my kids,) IF you don't know what you want to do, just start tryiing things, its worth it to find out what your 'true calling' is in life.

Hope things look up.

a p.s since a few mentioned living in a less developed place. I live in a town of 200, it is wonderful!
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali'][quote name='MaxBiaggi3'][quote name='dwsscs']I noticed you were in NYC. [/quote]

I remember a little over ten years ago when I was in a similar situation to the OP. A friend offered to let me share his apartment in NYC. He told me "your share of the rent will be $1,000 a month." My mortgage payment today (over ten years later) is only $1,000 a month, and I've got a pretty decent home in a decent neighborhood in the Washington, DC suburbs.

What I'm trying to say is that living in NYC is hella expensive, so if you've got family/friends in Ohio or some other relatively inexpensive location, you might want to consider relocating. You're not helping yourself financially by living in a high-rent district, and I'm guessing it will be difficult for you to make the kind of life-altering decisions you will need to be making while also dealing with the stress/pressure of paying to live in NYC.[/quote]

My house payment is $2000 a month.... for a condo, living in So Cal is crazy expensive. I'm contemplating move to somewhere in Nevada (Vegas), for the price I pay for my condo I could get a house with a pool and the works in Las Vegas.[/quote]

Don't forget that with moving to an underdeveloped city also means a lower cost of living. Which means, you won't be making the same amount of money in Nevada that you're making in southern California.
 
after i finish high school i wanna backpack travel through the world. 1st stop japan. i know it sounds stupid. heres the plan i work for a year save up any little money i get, buy a passport hit japan 1st then so where i go from there. ill also buy a gps system. i havnt worked out all the cinks to plan but i bet id be a hell of an adventure.
im ready to be flamed for this but hell you can through in a few tips or ideas while your add it huh?
 
[quote name='Derwood43'][quote name='Chris in Cali'][quote name='MaxBiaggi3'][quote name='dwsscs']I noticed you were in NYC. [/quote]

I remember a little over ten years ago when I was in a similar situation to the OP. A friend offered to let me share his apartment in NYC. He told me "your share of the rent will be $1,000 a month." My mortgage payment today (over ten years later) is only $1,000 a month, and I've got a pretty decent home in a decent neighborhood in the Washington, DC suburbs.

What I'm trying to say is that living in NYC is hella expensive, so if you've got family/friends in Ohio or some other relatively inexpensive location, you might want to consider relocating. You're not helping yourself financially by living in a high-rent district, and I'm guessing it will be difficult for you to make the kind of life-altering decisions you will need to be making while also dealing with the stress/pressure of paying to live in NYC.[/quote]

My house payment is $2000 a month.... for a condo, living in So Cal is crazy expensive. I'm contemplating move to somewhere in Nevada (Vegas), for the price I pay for my condo I could get a house with a pool and the works in Las Vegas.[/quote]

Don't forget that with moving to an underdeveloped city also means a lower cost of living. Which means, you won't be making the same amount of money in Nevada that you're making in southern California.[/quote]


My company would transfer me over to the Vegas center, and I wouldn't have take a pay cut. I know what your saying though, if I was looking for new work it would be less. Like I think the minimum wage is the highest here in so cal, so everything else goes up too. The only reason I really stay here is for my family.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Going back to school is not an option either. I've already got a BA, a BS and a JD. I think I got the JD just because I didn't like working after college...[/quote]

What do you do for a living with all that expensive paper?
 
[quote name='gaelan'][quote name='javeryh']Going back to school is not an option either. I've already got a BA, a BS and a JD. I think I got the JD just because I didn't like working after college...[/quote]

What do you do for a living with all that expensive paper?[/quote]

I'm a corporate attorney.
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='gaelan'][quote name='javeryh']Going back to school is not an option either. I've already got a BA, a BS and a JD. I think I got the JD just because I didn't like working after college...[/quote]

What do you do for a living with all that expensive paper?[/quote]

I'm a corporate attorney.[/quote]

My wife does commercial bankruptcy here in Atlanta. If you want or remotely interested I could hook you up with info on her firm.
 
[quote name='dwsscs'][quote name='javeryh'][quote name='gaelan'][quote name='javeryh']Going back to school is not an option either. I've already got a BA, a BS and a JD. I think I got the JD just because I didn't like working after college...[/quote]

What do you do for a living with all that expensive paper?[/quote]

I'm a corporate attorney.[/quote]

My wife does commercial bankruptcy here in Atlanta. If you want or remotely interested I could hook you up with info on her firm.[/quote]

Thanks but no thanks I guess. If I ever decide to switch jobs I want out of this line of work completely. I think I would be much happier making furniture or designing houses for a living... The pay isn't so hot though...
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='gaelan'][quote name='javeryh']Going back to school is not an option either. I've already got a BA, a BS and a JD. I think I got the JD just because I didn't like working after college...[/quote]

What do you do for a living with all that expensive paper?[/quote]

I'm a corporate attorney.[/quote]

If you are single and no one to support then save for a couple of months...I mean alot of money. Take off when you want and don't look back. You could do a lot of things with all that schooling...teach at a local university, work for the government (they are always looking for legal guys...and talk about laid back), or just work part time.

If you have a family, then some more planning will need to occur before drastic action is taken. And you being a corp lawyer...yeah you probably don't have as much free time as the average CAG.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']You need to see an Occupational Hypnotherapist![/quote]

He did help Anne lose weight.

Peter she's anorexic.

Yeah I know. The guy's really good.
 
How much did you bill last year? I went over 2200 and my friends in the same industry (corporate finance) are all billing close to 3000, and it's really nothing to be proud of if you think of all the weekends and nights which could have been spent doing something else…

I heard a depressing statistic of something like only 1/3 of the law school graduates are actually practicing law after 5 years out of school and 1/3 of the practicing attorneys are either clinically depressed or abusing substances. You are definitely not alone. Hope you’ll see some light at the end of the tunnel soon. O:)
 
[quote name='Neko Hime']How much did you bill last year? I went over 2200 and my friends in the same industry (corporate finance) are all billing close to 3000, and it's really nothing to be proud of if you think of all the weekends and nights which could have been spent doing something else…

I heard a depressing statistic of something like only 1/3 of law school graduates are actually practicing law after 5 years out of school and 1/3 of the practicing attorneys are either clinically depressed or abusing substances. You are definitely not alone. Hope you’ll see some light at the end of the tunnel soon. O:)[/quote]

You bill a lot! Where do you practice?
 
[quote name='Neko Hime']How much did you bill last year? I went over 2200 and my friends in the same industry (corporate finance) are all billing close to 3000, and it's really nothing to be proud of if you think of all the weekends and nights which could have been spent doing something else…

I heard a depressing statistic of something like only 1/3 of the law school graduates are actually practicing law after 5 years out of school and 1/3 of the practicing attorneys are either clinically depressed or abusing substances. You are definitely not alone. Hope you’ll see some light at the end of the tunnel soon. O:)[/quote]

yeah, that's a lot of hours. I didn't quite hit 2000 but I was close... 3000 hours is just impossible - that's like billing (not working) 12 hours a day every day all year long. I'd quit before that ever happened - I definitely don't have that in me....
 
[quote name='dwsscs'] You bill a lot! Where do you practice?[/quote]

NYC, actually, 2400 seems like the average for attorneys in my circle. Maybe it's the location. What about you? We seem to have quite some number of attorneys around here…

Believe me, people can do 3000 - I have a friend who once said he hasn’t seen his S.O. for 2 weeks and he lived with her! He was basically living in his office weekdays and weekends. It’s definitely not a way of life, my friends.
 
I am not a attorney, my wife is. She works at a fairly large firm in Atlanta (over 100 attorneys at this office) with locations around the country (LA, DC, etc.).

She has practiced for 3.5 years roughly. First year over 2200 (the dept. was short and she got the brunt of it) doing commercial real estate. Next year she started doing commercial bankruptcy (by her choice) at the same firm, and billed slightly over 2100 for the next 2 years. She was billing more than 200 hours than most of the associates in her department.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali'][quote name='Derwood43'][quote name='Chris in Cali'][quote name='MaxBiaggi3'][quote name='dwsscs']I noticed you were in NYC. [/quote]

I remember a little over ten years ago when I was in a similar situation to the OP. A friend offered to let me share his apartment in NYC. He told me "your share of the rent will be $1,000 a month." My mortgage payment today (over ten years later) is only $1,000 a month, and I've got a pretty decent home in a decent neighborhood in the Washington, DC suburbs.

What I'm trying to say is that living in NYC is hella expensive, so if you've got family/friends in Ohio or some other relatively inexpensive location, you might want to consider relocating. You're not helping yourself financially by living in a high-rent district, and I'm guessing it will be difficult for you to make the kind of life-altering decisions you will need to be making while also dealing with the stress/pressure of paying to live in NYC.[/quote]

My house payment is $2000 a month.... for a condo, living in So Cal is crazy expensive. I'm contemplating move to somewhere in Nevada (Vegas), for the price I pay for my condo I could get a house with a pool and the works in Las Vegas.[/quote]

Don't forget that with moving to an underdeveloped city also means a lower cost of living. Which means, you won't be making the same amount of money in Nevada that you're making in southern California.[/quote]


My company would transfer me over to the Vegas center, and I wouldn't have take a pay cut. I know what your saying though, if I was looking for new work it would be less. Like I think the minimum wage is the highest here in so cal, so everything else goes up too. The only reason I really stay here is for my family.[/quote]

I am living in Las Vegas, I moved from California about 4 years ago. My family still lives in Cali, so I understand your situation.

Living in Las Vegas in no longer cheap anymore. Home prices have basically doubled in the past year...lots of people from Cali moving to Vegas, land shortages. To pay 200K for a condo in a decent area in Vegas now is quite common...expect to pay 250K on the low end for a starter home in an absollutely shitty crackhead infested neighborhood. If you move to Vegas NOW your housepayment WILL be $2000 a month on the low end.

Also, since Vegas is one of the fastest growing cities in the U.S. right now taxes are now a constant ever increasing mess. Me and my husband saw taxes on our home basically triple within the last year we were in it, because all these special "improvements" to the surrounding Vegas area need to be made--in other words, we had to pay for the infrastructure for other people to move here after us.

Wages are alot less here in Nevada then they are in California. Me and my husband both moved out here when our companies opened their own branches out here, so we were able to transfer for the pay equal to Cali at the time. Then a year later our companies decided that they wanted to cut back our wages, without cutting our hours, so we were basically told we had to work the same amount of hours for less money, or leave for a crappy job in the casinos. From what I've heard from alot of people who live in Vegas that this is standard procedure for many companies out here. This might have been ok if housing out here were still cheap, but its not anymore.

What a ratrace! So not only has our wages decreased and our living expenses increased, now we're stucking living away from our families. If we wanted to deal with this kind of crap we would have stayed in Cali...so much for moving to "get away from it all". Moral of the story is you can try to move someplace new, but that doesn't stop things that are out of your control from happening.
 
Live below your means and retire early. I don't like work either. My wife and I are both software engineers. We save approx. 80% of our after tax money. I really don't know what I would spend it all on. I don't want much except free time. If all goes well, I will be completely financially independent by my late 30's. I am 26 right now.

www.retireearlyhomepage.com
 
[quote name='"javeryh"']...and I can't do a thing about it. I really feel stuck. I don't really like my job but I can't try something else because there are bills to pay and responsibilities at home to worry about. I only have free time on the weekends but usually that is spent running errands and preparing for the upcoming work week. I hate wishing away 5/7ths of my life. The funny thing is that I don't even know what I'd rather be doing. I don't think I am adjusting well to life outside of school... anyone else know where I'm coming from?[/quote]

There are alot of people that don't particularly like their jobs and feel overworked, and they make alot less money than you. I don't claim to work until midnight every night, but my job is still stressful and there are layoff threats all of the time on top of that. I feel similarly, but am trying to deal with it. Colleagues at competitor companies have essentially the same complaints, so moving would not necessarily solve the problems. Going back to school is not a realistic option for me either.

Based on what you have said in previous threads, you have a wife and a young kid to worry about. Have you talked with your wife about your feelings? She knows you alot better than the random people posting on this website.
 
Try some meditation.

Then get the book "Getting a job the lazy way" and realize that it's going to take some time to find the right opportunity.

Sounds trite but it's very true - you're only as stuck as you think you are.
 
[quote name='javeryh']...and I can't do a thing about it. I really feel stuck. I don't really like my job but I can't try something else because there are bills to pay and responsibilities at home to worry about. I only have free time on the weekends but usually that is spent running errands and preparing for the upcoming work week. I hate wishing away 5/7ths of my life. The funny thing is that I don't even know what I'd rather be doing. I don't think I am adjusting well to life outside of school... anyone else know where I'm coming from?[/quote]

Oh I feel ya. At some point you have to come to grips w/ the fact that you are the most important person in your world. You can't forget that. If you're miserable w/ yourself, ur just gonna make yourself regret the steps you take in your life. I say go out, try new things, meet new people. Look around for a class, go run, work out, try something. Try photography, drawing, writing, just don't wish. Just a couple of ideas. In the end, just do something that'll make you happy.
 
I work about 60 hrs a week (I'm a resident in training for neurology in my 3rd year), make about $40,000/yr and saddled with a six figure debt from medical school but I love what I do, it gives me a great deal of personal satisfaction and I have music as a creative outlet for stress. The key is having a way to distance yourself completely from your job when you're off the clock and finding a healthy way to unload your stress. That's the only way you'll keep sane. Good luck to you, though, I used to feel the same way.
 
If you don't like your job, you should quit.

When that lovely moment comes that your organs start to spontaneously fail and death is less than an hour away, it's not going to matter for shit how much money you made or how 'prestigious' you were. You either lived a life you enjoyed or one you didn't.
 
[quote name='MaxBiaggi3'][quote name='dwsscs']I noticed you were in NYC. [/quote]

I remember a little over ten years ago when I was in a similar situation to the OP. A friend offered to let me share his apartment in NYC. He told me "your share of the rent will be $1,000 a month." My mortgage payment today (over ten years later) is only $1,000 a month, and I've got a pretty decent home in a decent neighborhood in the Washington, DC suburbs.

What I'm trying to say is that living in NYC is hella expensive, so if you've got family/friends in Ohio or some other relatively inexpensive location, you might want to consider relocating. You're not helping yourself financially by living in a high-rent district, and I'm guessing it will be difficult for you to make the kind of life-altering decisions you will need to be making while also dealing with the stress/pressure of paying to live in NYC.[/quote]

Except for in Ohio, you'll pay more to live in the country then you will in the city. Of course though, anything is cheaper then NY and NJ (!!!). If you do move to the country here it'll be a lot different. I have relatives that live in the city and in the country in New York. I like it in Ohio a lot better. Akron and Cleveland both suck, but they aren't as bad in terms of crime, cost of living, and number of people per capita.

I.E. I'm currently renting an apartment. When I say apartment, I mean a single family dwelling that was split into two separate living spaces which means it's significantly larger than the toaster sized new york ones, lol (full living room, full bedroom, full kitchen, bathroom with shower). I don't own the house, but I know the owner paid around $40,000 for it. Rent is around $450 per month including utilities. Downtown Akron is about a one minute drive. A hospital and fast food restaurants are within walking distance. My neighbors suck, but they live in the next house over so I don't share a wall with them. I also have off street parking.

I think the NYC people are going --> :shock: right now. It's funny how things are relative. However, just like the OP I'm stressed and don't know what to do when I graduate. I'm thinking of pushing the date back one more semester and then go live with my parents. It's not a dire situation, but it's just frustrating! I'm sure things could be worse.
 
Is it my turn to complain?

I'm 18, 19 in April. I broke up with my girlfriend, I know some of you that have seen my other posts might say "You've broken up with her 1,000 times already, it'll be fine." But I think it's for real this time. "You always say that." We aren't even talking.. She blocked my AIM screen name and I don't want to call her. I miss her a lot but I know it's for the best. We're not right for each other.

I start my second semester at UMBC tomorrow. I have yet to declare a major. My first semester grades were A (English 100A), B (Philosophy 101), B (Russian 101), and C (Math 106). I told my guidance counselor about my eBay business (which I haven't really be doing at all recently cuz I have a job now) and she told me I might be interested in Business management or something like that. eh.. I dunno. I have no clue what I want to do in life. All my life my parents and teachers have always told me that I'm very bright I just need to actually apply myself. I've never studied.. ever.. And I rarely ever did homework. When I started college, I started doing a little bit of homework and I managed to get decent grades. But I feel lost... I have no idea what I want to do with my life.

I work at an Applebee's in Baltimore City. I'm the only white guy there. I really like my job. I'm a carry-out specialist but I've been there a while so I have many responsibilities now. I prepare, cook food, and make sure it finds it's owner (expo'ing). I might be switched over to kitchen (cook/prep) soon. I was thinking maybe I can get a business degree and then eventually buy the franchise... I have some ideas that I think will improve the place.

I really don't know... I've been so depressed lately it just sucks... and I miss Hannah :(
 
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