In search of Anti-Establishment games.

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Dick Tracy

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I need a hand searching for anti-establishment games. Help me throw out some names.

Compiled so far:

- Beyond Good and Evil
- Bully
- Deus Ex
- Enchanted Arms
- Freedom Fighters
- Grand Theft Auto III
- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
- Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
- Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
- Half-Life 2
- Jet Set Grind Radio
- Jet Set Radio 2
- Killer 7
- Manhunt
- Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure
- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
- Red Faction
- Red Faction 2
- Resident Evil 4
- State of Emergency
- State of Emergency 2
- The Warriors
- XIII
 
[quote name='greydemise']freedom fighters?
oo! jet set radio 2 and jet grind radio :)![/QUOTE]
Good ones!
 
[quote name='strummerbs']Beyond Good and Evil[/QUOTE]
Was it? I only played an hour or two of it, and I can't really remember anything. :lol:

Not sure about Manhunt, 62t... Could be.

The Warriors was, though!
 
Anti- Establishment?

Logically all games is that way. On that topic our soceity is like this the way they just throw away people and everything is paper back.

Super Mario Brothers? One man rise up against Koopa and the Koopa Troop
Who already is settled in and is just the mushroon people in Goomba form while everybody else who is not a conformist is turned into blocks and stars.

Rockman? One Robot Rise up against Willy and the the army of robots who pretty much owns the town but is destroying everything in there path.

Bionic Commmando? One man rise against the Naszi Party who we have been fighting forever.

Viewtiful Joe? One guy rise up against the leader of Movie Land who is about to invade the real world

Then again I could suggest a rise in power against somebody or something which the above games are.

Logically we have a game in our real world where the people rising to power is losing.

How about about the game called A Few Good Men: Rise Against Jewmerica.

Then again we already have "State Of Emergency: Liousiana Under siege"

What about "Missle Of The North Korea"

Latly lets not forget about "Bomberman: SUICIDE"
 
[quote name='RegalSin2020']

How about about the game called A Few Good Men: Rise Against Jewmerica.

Then again we already have "State Of Emergency: Liousiana Under siege"

What about "Missle Of The North Korea"

Latly lets not forget about "Bomberman: SUICIDE"[/QUOTE]

...Wow.
 
[quote name='sonderiaom']hmmm, XIII?[/QUOTE]
Damn. That one totally escaped my mind, and I absolutely loved that game.
 
[quote name='Brak']Was it? I only played an hour or two of it, and I can't really remember anything. :lol: [/QUOTE]

Yes, without giving away the plot twists, you essentially take down the government with the pictures you take.
 
I wanna throw Resident Evil 4 out there, which was a very good social / political commentary.
[quote name='msdmoney']Yes, without giving away the plot twists, you essentially take down the government with the pictures you take.[/QUOTE]
Cool. Thanks.
 
[quote name='Brak']I wanna throw Resident Evil 4 out there, which was a very good social / political commentary.[/QUOTE]

All you did in RE4 was fight invaders of the body snatchers.

The only reason the paracites did not take control of the midget and the vampire cult guy was that they wanted to spread them threwout the world and the midget was the key in making them reborn and destroying them.

What they need is a pre-game about midget ancestors who fights against the paracites back in religous crazy times. It would be like the hobbit but more Resident Evil meets Zelda.

Beyond Good And Evil
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Falls into the catergory of adventure games or exploration like Dreamfall and Wonder Project.

The main antaganist of the game basically took control of every other world sucking the life out of every single human being on the planet. Eventually the antaganist ( who we still know little about ) did all this to find Shawnie/Jade who was hidden/kidnapped seeing how she is in realtion to making the antaganist immortal.

So the Pig guy kiddnapped Jade from the antaganist who generally tracked her down to this world and proceeded with the search for Jade.

Or blah blah mystical ( this game could have been another American is is so pbovious this is Chinese blah blah legend of the dragon game ) power that is in Jade that is in her family and allows her to bring things back to life and thus she can bring anything back to life or even make them live forever.
So to stop the mad wizard alacmist antaganist the Pig guy from Sonic the Hedghog Ch7 and Rocket Knight decided to hide her.

This is a murder mystery game more then take down the empire game.
 
How about Syndicate and Shadowrun? I don't remember them too well, all I remember is they were kinda cyberpunkish.

[quote name='RegalSin2020']Anti- Establishment?

Logically all games is that way. On that topic our soceity is like this the way they just throw away people and everything is paper back.

Super Mario Brothers? One man rise up against Koopa and the Koopa Troop
Who already is settled in and is just the mushroon people in Goomba form while everybody else who is not a conformist is turned into blocks and stars.

Rockman? One Robot Rise up against Willy and the the army of robots who pretty much owns the town but is destroying everything in there path.

Bionic Commmando? One man rise against the Naszi Party who we have been fighting forever.

Viewtiful Joe? One guy rise up against the leader of Movie Land who is about to invade the real world

Then again I could suggest a rise in power against somebody or something which the above games are.

Logically we have a game in our real world where the people rising to power is losing.

How about about the game called A Few Good Men: Rise Against Jewmerica.

Then again we already have "State Of Emergency: Liousiana Under siege"

What about "Missle Of The North Korea"

Latly lets not forget about "Bomberman: SUICIDE"[/QUOTE]


Or how about Illiteracy Fighter 2? I hear it has a tragic ending though.
 
JUst remind me.

Cops N, Robers. Arcade game where you have to deliver the booze and aviod the heat. Arcade game.

Boonaza Bros. Basically you break into houses, malls, and banks. Steal everything while avioding the security. Really fun.

If you like boonza Bros then play Screw Breaker Advance. Which is basically Boonaza Bros until you start upgrading. You are stealing from a big wig toy comapny like Nintendo but you have to deal with there Security system. The game is great until they inlist a clothing system and etc special crap. I would be playing this game forever if it was like Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, or Buble Bobble. Sadly the game has a end.

Aero The Acrobat. Which I thought was great at once. This kid who is now owner of everything takes over your circus to get revenge. So you break in to take back Circus by force. Poor guy.

Donkey Kong Country. Is where the Kremlings bascially took over the island and the only reason you care about stopping them is to get back your bananas.

Dragon Ball Z series. Blah Blah Vegeta needs to take over the Earth in order for some Aliens to take ownership of the planet. However you and your crew must stop him and anybody who wants to destroy Earth.
 
Jak II.

How about pretty much every street racing game ever? Well, at least the ones that have you out running cops -

Need For Speed I, III Hot Pursuit, Hot Pursuit II, Underground, Underground II, Most Wanted, Carbon, and maybe Need for Speed 4 and Porsche Unleashed - I don't know about those. Speeding in the face of cops is pressure against The Establishment, but I don't know if it would qualify as "Anti-Establishment." They're not really trying to bring down the man.

Also see Midnight Club I & II (?), Burnout 2, and Test Drive II (maybe others in the series).
 
I think you need to draw a line between games that involve anti-authoritarianism and those in which the protagonist is simply a criminal. Being a thief, paid assassin, or other type of lawbreaker does necessarily mean you are against the benefits of the rule of law in general.

A professional assassin does not want anarchy creating a world where his career is reduced to mere survival.
 
How about the Suikoden series? Scrappy band of mis-fit rebels attempting to take down the authoritarian government... Check.

Also, Valkyrie Profile 2 has the theme as well. Band of humans seeking to otherthrow the oppresive rule of higher deities... Check.
 
would you say shadow hearts 2? i havent played the game in awhile, but the german (?) officers / military is looking for yuri and the group, karen defects from them and joins them, and the main characters are periodically being chased around by said government., just tossing in suggestions :)
 
[quote name='Brak']Damn. That one totally escaped my mind, and I absolutely loved that game.[/quote]

Yes!!!! Another XIII fan. We all need to band together and demand a next-gen sequel to it. fucking plot twist cliffhanger ending:bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb::bomb:
 
[quote name='RegalSin2020']Anti- Establishment?


How about about the game called A Few Good Men: Rise Against Jewmerica.

Then again we already have "State Of Emergency: Liousiana Under siege"

What about "Missle Of The North Korea"

Latly lets not forget about "Bomberman: SUICIDE"[/QUOTE]

As I mentioned in another thread:

Batshit Crazy.

Anti-Semitic too, apparently.
 
Another game called "Hell Night" which is highly associated with the Megami series. Basically you are traped underground and you have to get out but at the same this cult is stalking you and abuductin people.

Then you have "Hybrid Heavan" where you have to up against these people who is like Men In Black but in reality you find out something else more.

"Custards Revenge". Where Custard gets to give his come upings to those Indians/Natvie Americans. If you don't remember that general Custard wage war on the Native Americans...I forget why.

GoldenSun where a gang of people stop another gang of people from doing something then proceed to do what those gang of people failed at seeing how the world was doom anyways.

Kirbys Dream Course. Where Kirby Destorys King DeDeDe Golf Course Kirby style.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']I haven't played the game, but I doubt it. Just because you look like Che Guevara doesn't mean you are Che Guevara. Isn't the point of Just Cause to replace an oppressive dictatorship with a US-backed government (which I am going to assume is an equally oppressive dictatorship)? That doesn't exactly strike me as anti-establishment.[/QUOTE]

So, it's more like taking down Communist Salvador Allende to replace his government with Fascist Auguste Pinochet in 1973 Chile? Wow. And on top of that the game stinks, too.

I recommend ZPC, even if it was a PC-only title.
 
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Robin Hood: Defender of the Crown (I bet NOBODY would have guessed this one)
Sid Meier's Pirates (Beleive it, Baby!)
 
How many of these are REALLY thought provoking though? Beyond Good and Evil is maybe the best on the list, but a lot of these you're just a criminal or it doesn't really matter what's going on.
 
It does not really matters what is occuring in the Middle East to us right now until some reporter or snoppy spy for some country expose the truth but then again hey i guess you are right about that.

Then again hey the DoMZ is not ruling anything they just seal/secure areas and converted everybody into food for there Magic master guy.

Also the way it is setup in BG&E is the exact same way it is setup in EarthBound, Wonder Project, and DreamFall.

The same setup is found in horror movies or games like Resident Evil where people is dissapearing here and there but nobody knows why until the people exposed is a national organization or a good person of heart.

There is endless outcomes when you think about it with games or anything like these tieles.

What makes Beyond Good & Evil diffrent is that like Metal Gear you snopoping around and your have no real objective until later.
 
OT, but try picking up the book PopCo by Scarlett Thomas. After reading it, you get the impression that there would be more anti-establishment games except for the fact that the companies that produce them have a vested interest in the continued supremecy of the establishment.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']I haven't played the game, but I doubt it. Just because you look like Che Guevara doesn't mean you are Che Guevara. Isn't the point of Just Cause to replace an oppressive dictatorship with a US-backed government (which I am going to assume is an equally oppressive dictatorship)? That doesn't exactly strike me as anti-establishment.[/QUOTE]

Whereas if the character was Che you could look forward to concentration camps and mass executions. Che was an evil homicidal bastard who died at the hands of his own ilk because even they couldn't stand him anymore.

If people look at what really happened in Chile as opposed to the Chomsky-Berger version, Pinochet saved that country from being yet another South American shithole with a coup that was going to happen regardless of where the US stood on the issue.

The fact remains, within the subjective setting of the game, the character's imperatives are plainly anti-eestablishment as opposed to just being a gang banger.
 
[quote name='epobirs']Whereas if the character was Che you could look forward to concentration camps and mass executions. Che was an evil homicidal bastard who died at the hands of his own ilk because even they couldn't stand him anymore.

If people look at what really happened in Chile as opposed to the Chomsky-Berger version, Pinochet saved that country from being yet another South American shithole with a coup that was going to happen regardless of where the US stood on the issue.

The fact remains, within the subjective setting of the game, the character's imperatives are plainly anti-eestablishment as opposed to just being a gang banger.[/quote]
Everyone listen to epobirs and shut up.:D
 
Blood Omen: The legacy of Kane
Robotron
Berzerk
Conker's Bad Fur Day


(Yeah...I'm going old-school)
 
[quote name='RegalSin2020']It does not really matters what is occuring in the Middle East to us right now until some reporter or snoppy spy for some country expose the truth but then again hey i guess you are right about that.

Then again hey the DoMZ is not ruling anything they just seal/secure areas and converted everybody into food for there Magic master guy.

Also the way it is setup in BG&E is the exact same way it is setup in EarthBound, Wonder Project, and DreamFall.

The same setup is found in horror movies or games like Resident Evil where people is dissapearing here and there but nobody knows why until the people exposed is a national organization or a good person of heart.

There is endless outcomes when you think about it with games or anything like these tieles.

What makes Beyond Good & Evil diffrent is that like Metal Gear you snopoping around and your have no real objective until later.[/QUOTE]


I'm not tryng to be mean here but is english not your native langage? Your posts are so consistently difficult to understand.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']I was with you for the first bit. That last sentence has me confused. I was under the impression he was tortured and executed after being captured by Bolivian forces. Are you referring to his alleged fall-out with Castro? Or are you saying his troops in Bolivia handed him over to the enemy?

Mmm. Neo-liberalism. 40% lower wages, poverty doubled, and unemployment at 22%. And let's not get in to the Valech Report... As much as you despise the Cult of Che (and rightly so), that is no excuse to go all fanboy over some piece-of-shit dictator like Pinochet.

Something tells me we're not going to get anywhere arguing this one back-and-forth. Come on. You're a fucking CIA agent, are you not?


Edit: You should definitely add the Super Nintendo's Front Mission to the list. Come to think of it, Final Fantasy Tactics might fit as well.[/QUOTE]

You're right. You won't get anywhere because you have a wretched command of the facts. Chile is the most successful economy in SA, primarily thanks to the reforms under Pinochet that his successors chose to keep in place. Rarely mentioned in the reports of the nastiness, none of which was especially shocking from an SA perspective, is that those targeted were frequently strongly in the Soviet camp that still thought Stalin, possibly the dictator with the highest bodycount in history, was a swell guy. Besides, how many dictators get voted out of office and leave peacefully, which is what happened in Chile?
 
Hybrid Heaven?... maybe...?

...jk

um, does Defcon even count?

oh, and Final Fantasy Tactics is a semi-anti estab. The problem is that there are so many sides to the coin in that game it's hard to tell.
 
Funny how someone who apparently is not a native-English speaker can still put a pot-shot together like:
"rise against Jewmerica" isn't it?

Just a misinterpretation? I doubt it.
 
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