Japanese Niche Games Deals & Discussion Thread 4.0

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Welcome to the Japanese niche games deals and discussion thread!  Feel free to talk about local and import Japanese games here.  Our goal is to maintain a thread dedicated to active deals on niche games including RPGs, Visual Novels (VN), Shoot'em ups (Shmups), Musou, etc.  Also maintained are pre-orders for standard, limited and collector's edition games with key release dates provided.

I've wikified the thread to make it more friendly and open to others that can actively update with important information. You can find the wiki post directly below this one.

NOTE:  Please, leave the censorship discussion away from this thread.  It's common for japanese games to have questionable content outside of the country.  We want to keep discussions to the game itself and not about cultural/societal tolerance.

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shadowysea07 said:
I definitely doubt adding memory would cost much at all.
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Every extra bit adds up when you're talking about a physical product. And every extra bit takes a bite out of the markup for the product. When designing a product like this, you have to shave down those costs as much as possible to make the device as profitable as possible. It's true that memory isn't nearly as expensive as it used to be. But it's also not free. Nintendo had it easy with their classic systems. Even the biggest SNES titles didn't take up much more than a handful of megabytes each. The storage they had to build into those classic systems didn't even have to be measured in gigs. Final Fantasy VII takes up a gig by itself, and that's in a semi-compressed state. A 1-to-1 rip of the original discs for Final Fantasy VII would weigh in around 2 gigs.

There's a reason Sony is charging more for this thing, and its not just the licensing. A PlayStation classic is just inherently going to be more expensive to produce, and the memory is part of it. It's only one part, granted, and not the largest difference. The most expensive difference in production will be the sheer processing power needed for PlayStation emulation, which is quite a bit greater than what would be needed for SNES emulation.

 
The list for the PS Classic isn't too exciting. I'll still hold on to my pre-order, but I'll leave it sealed when I get it. Depending on how easy it is to hack will determine if I'll keep it or not.

 
Richard Kain said:
There's a reason Sony is charging more for this thing, and its not just the licensing. A PlayStation classic is just inherently going to be more expensive to produce, and the memory is part of it. It's only one part, granted, and not the largest difference. The most expensive difference in production will be the sheer processing power needed for PlayStation emulation, which is quite a bit greater than what would be needed for SNES emulation.
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There may be a big difference in required processing power, but it's basically nothing with today's tech. Literally an iMac from 1998 ran PS1 games at full speed (more of a stunt, but made the news "virtual game station" I believe it was called). It's like a billionaire saying he won't buy a $60k Corvette because it cost too much.

Also, Sony kinda failed by not including some of their own high profile first party games (again, only going by memory, Ape Escape, Parappa, Legend of the Dragoon). If saving on licensing was even an issue, you would have seen more first party games.

 
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lutz said:
There may be a big difference in required processing power, but it's basically nothing with today's tech. Literally an iMac from 1998 ran PS1 games at full speed (more of a stunt, but made the news "virtual game station" I believe it was called). It's like a billionaire saying he won't buy a $60k Corvette because it cost too much.

Also, Sony kinda failed by not including some of their own high profile first party games (again, only going by memory, Ape Escape, Parappa, Legend of the Dragoon). If saving on licensing was even an issue, you would have seen more first party games.
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Basically nothing that can run 32 bit games without a hitch still costs more than basically nothing that can run 16 bit games.
 
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Souffrir said:
Basically nothing that can run 32 bit games without a hitch still costs more than basically nothing that can run 16 bit games.
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Or it can cost exactly the same since it would be the exact same hardware. The NES classic machine is powerful enough to run an N64 emulator. I meant it when I said the difference is basically nothing as nothing additional is required to run. Heck, the NES classic has enough horse power to run any playstation 1 game.

It's more then a proof of concept idea, the Cortex A7 chip which powers the NES classic has been running N64 emulation since 2016. FYI, the internals of the NES and SNES classic are basically identical as well, that's why some people have mod their units to run both systems (though I recommend modding a SNES classic and not a NES classic because of the controllers).

 
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lutz said:
There may be a big difference in required processing power, but it's basically nothing with today's tech. Literally an iMac from 1998 ran PS1 games at full speed (more of a stunt, but made the news "virtual game station" I believe it was called). It's like a billionaire saying he won't buy a $60k Corvette because it cost too much.

Also, Sony kinda failed by not including some of their own high profile first party games (again, only going by memory, Ape Escape, Parappa, Legend of the Dragoon). If saving on licensing was even an issue, you would have seen more first party games.
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Ape Escape would be impossible to play with the original controller so that one makes sense.

 
I complete didn't realize about the need of analog for that game. By the time I got into PS1, dualshock was already standard. It's a shame that they didn't used those instead. I'm sure it was to save a buck, but surely DS form factor are more iconic and widespread than the clunky originals.

 
I thought it was weird that they included the Director's Cut for RE since I think that was the one that implemented the dualshock support. Same for MGS. 

No fucking way I'm spending money on this, though. Why would I pay for something my PSP does? One thing that will be funny to see is the rude awakening fans of Persona 5 are in for when they play the original. It's the Revelations version, too so it's gonna have that interesting piece of localization

 
The Dead Texan said:
I thought it was weird that they included the Director's Cut for RE since I think that was the one that implemented the dualshock support. Same for MGS.

No fucking way I'm spending money on this, though. Why would I pay for something my PSP does? One thing that will be funny to see is the rude awakening fans of Persona 5 are in for when they play the original. It's the Revelations version, too so it's gonna have that interesting piece of localization
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Damn, I had completely forgot the PSP rand PS1 natively, as I never had much use for it at the time. I still have my PSP and use it pretty regularly, but I have a better device to play those games with better control options to boot. But the feature was and and always be a rather cool, epically for those who may have missed a few past titles.

 
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Damn, I had completely forgot the PSP rand PS1 natively, as I never had much use for it at the time. I still have my PSP and use it pretty regularly, but I have a better device to play those games with better control options to boot. But the feature was and and always be a rather cool, epically for those who may have missed a few past titles.
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Before my PC was the center for my classic games, I had my PSP Go+charger cradle and component output, so it was like having a tiny box of classic goodies on the TV. You can also connect DS3 controllers to it, so it was even easier to play those classic games.

 
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Seriously, why pay $100 bucks for this, when you can get either a PSP, Vita, PSTV, PS3, PS2, or an actual PS1 for less (Vita is currently more pricy, but now that it's officially dead, that will soon be the case).

Sad thing is, they function better as well. NES and SNES classics at least has some perks not available on the originals (in particular HDMI output).

Buying this product at all, rewards Sony for holding back PS1 classics on PSN. Just saying...

 
Same.   The only reason I can see picking it up is for any titles that aren't cheap physical or digital.

 
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The Dead Texan said:
No fucking way I'm spending money on this, though. Why would I pay for something my PSP does? One thing that will be funny to see is the rude awakening fans of Persona 5 are in for when they play the original. It's the Revelations version, too so it's gonna have that interesting piece of localization
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Localization aside, the random battles. OMG. Can't walk half a block on the map without one.

 
oh for those interested netflix finally added the rest of the fate extra last encore eps.  about damn time.  I shouldn't be surprised this happened since the same thing happened with apocrypha only uploading half of it originally.  

Castlevania season two and seven deadly sins also had new seasons added.

Castlevania was pretty great.  seven deadly sins felt a little rushed since it was about the same pace as the manga.

 
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BTW just giving an opinion but been playing The Ditzy Demons are In Love With Me and Sabbat of the Witch. There is no question hands down that Sabbat is the better game. I've gone through 2 routes there, and one was relatively weak, but the other was nice. Sometimes things can make you smack your head against a wall, but otherwise it's solid and a good length.

Ditzy Demons is full of the comedy. I do like it somewhat overall, but there is just not that much to it. I think there is one main choice with a few random other choices. It is a nukige, so there are many eroge scenes. It's not terrible or anything, but just kind of average overall. The art is pretty nice though. The 2 routes along with all the side routes were all overall average. Nothing bad, but nothing memorable either.

I will hope to give full reviews on both someday. I know i'm pretty backed up on giving reviews of stuff. I think Hapymaher is next for that.

 
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It makes me wonder if Intimacy mode is the only thing patched in Senran Kagura Burst Renewal. The artwork at the end of character story missions are usually more racy than those Yuuna and the Haunted Springs images.

Though I'm assuming there will be character story missions.

 
 
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Saw someone on Twitter claim that Sony forced the makers of Mary Skelter 2 to put out a patch to censor the purification minigame (haven't played either game so I don't know what this entails exactly).  And this is a game that was already released.

If this is true then Sony may start forcing out patches to retroactively censor other games on their platform.

 
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BMXJouster said:
Saw someone on Twitter claim that Sony forced the makers of Mary Skelter 2 to put out a patch to censor the purification minigame (haven't played either game so I don't know what this entails exactly). And this is a game that was already released.

If this is true then Sony may start forcing out patches to retroactively censor other games on their platform.
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https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/11/sony-has-mary-skelter-2s-purification-system-censored-in-chinese-version-causing-major-bugs/71362/

This is not okay. I really like Mary Skelter on my vita. I thought I was with Sony on this generation but Nintendo's laissez faire attitude for 3rd party makes it very convincing. Hell I just bought Diablo again for the 4th time.

 
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BMXJouster said:
Saw someone on Twitter claim that Sony forced the makers of Mary Skelter 2 to put out a patch to censor the purification minigame (haven't played either game so I don't know what this entails exactly). And this is a game that was already released.

If this is true then Sony may start forcing out patches to retroactively censor other games on their platform.
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Another touch thing.

I'm not too worried about a retroactive patch for games already released. The game was released after the policy was put in place and the touch mechanic probably slipped through too late to recall the game disks so it got patched out. This was a very sudden change and we'll see several instances of this until the localization companies are through the Japanese games that would be in violation of the new policy. The Japanese companies on the other hand now have a way to upsell their limited editions by including an art book with uncensored CG images.

 
bappt said:
Another touch thing.

I'm not too worried about a retroactive patch for games already released. The game was released after the policy was put in place and the touch mechanic probably slipped through too late to recall the game disks so it got patched out. This was a very sudden change and we'll see several instances of this until the localization companies are through the Japanese games that would be in violation of the new policy. The Japanese companies on the other hand now have a way to upsell their limited editions by including an art book with uncensored CG images.
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the problem is this policy put up earlier this year should only be effecting games afterward and not before and its supposed to be hitting released games well before the policy in jp too so ur argument is right, i wouldnt have a problem if they publicly announced their new policy with details to consumers when the enacted it but knowing it would effect sales and still not coming out with it because its a bad decision doesnt sit well, still sucks they were making xseed redo the local for ps4 because of this policy when the game was released years ago nothing changed except english language

 
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Flanflan said:
Nintendo has never intervened on third party content since the ESRB.
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They did censor their own published games though as recently as in the Wii U era. I remember Fire Emblem Fates had a touching mini game removed from it for Western release just like Senran Kagura did, Fire Emblem Awakening had that infamous Tharja shower scene censored, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions had some in-game posters that were changed from girls in bikinis to girls in regular clothes.

Everyone is guilty of this censorship crap at some point in time, Sony is just the latest. It’s important that we as consumers let them know that it isn’t acceptable, and as long as we do, I expect them to dial it back eventually like Steam and even Nintendo did.
 
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