Killzone 2 - Gen. Discussion & Info

[quote name='dallow']I was looking forward to hearing what you thought, and I'm more excited now!
I'm definitely playing this without the hud, subs, crosshair and hints for maximum immersion.
I hear playing it in Russian language is pretty cool too.




Well, you can force 1080p by unchecking all other resolutions save for that in the PS3 display options.

But you really should let the game play as close to it's native res as possible (so it scales fewer times) or else you might get a few graphical hitches like tearing (RE5 for example, slight tearing in 1080p, no tearing in 720p).

FWIW, there are like only 3 disc games on all of the PS3/360 library that are 1080p native.[/quote]

On one of the dev Q&As they went into extreme detail about what they did. Something cool with the scaling or something. It was outta my league though
 
[quote name='JMEPO']Do tell.[/quote]

Go to settings, then display settings, then video output settings then select whatever type of cable you have then instead of automatic click custom, and just check the 1080p box. Hey Dallow KZ2 runs in 1080p for me,but when I tired the RE5 demo it refuses are you sure about it running in that?
 
[quote name='JMEPO']EDIT: Thanks Dallow, I'll have to do that.[/quote]You're welcome but I was advising you not to do it! :lol:

[quote name='jman619']Go to settings, then display settings, then video output settings then select whatever type of cable you have then instead of automatic click custom, and just check the 1080p box. Hey Dallow KZ2 runs in 1080p for me,but when I tired the RE5 demo it refuses are you sure about it running in that?[/quote]I meant the RE5 demo on 360.
It's the opposite situation in that case, as I have to force 720p by unchecking 1080p. :)
 
[quote name='dallow']You're welcome but I was advising you not to do it! :lol:

I meant the RE5 demo on 360.
It's the opposite situation on that case, as I have to force 720p and uncheck 1080p. :)[/quote]

Yeah I ran the RE5 demo in 1080p on 360. The ps3 demo wouldn't display in it, and I thought you was talking about it. I knew the 360 one would,but to be honest I can't tell a difference between the two versions as far as the graphics go.
 
So do games in general look better forced in 1080p or in there 720p native resolutions? If forcing the game to 1080p cause noticable graphic gltiches I'll just play in 720p.
 
[quote name='JMEPO']So do games in general look better forced in 1080p or in there 720p native resolutions? If forcing the game to 1080p cause noticable graphic gltiches I'll just play in 720p.[/quote]

To me it varies. I've played a couple of games on ps3 that never had any glitches or tearing when I forced them to 1080p. I haven't had a chance to test that killzone 2 demo enough. You should mess around with it, and see what looks best to you. Usually what it wants to run is the native one or what the system thinks is best for it If you have them all checked.
 
i was impressed with the demo in terms of graphics, but i wasn't feeling the cover system nor running, the controls felt off to me as well and i guess i'll just have to try a diff configuration, the demo as a whole left me with slight dissapointment, maybe it will just have to be a game that grows on me as i get used to certain things we'll see
 
Yeah, I mean it's possible there's nothing noticibly bad about forcing 1080p.
I just rather be safe.

It won't make it any better, so there's no reason to. Your TV scales it to 1080p anyway, so it's just double work for nothing.
 
[quote name='smiggity']On one of the dev Q&As they went into extreme detail about what they did. Something cool with the scaling or something. It was outta my league though[/QUOTE]

So, were they saying to leave it at 720p, or force 1080p?
 
[quote name='zewone']So, were they saying to leave it at 720p, or force 1080p?[/quote]
If they wanted the game to scale to 1080p, it would have done so by default like some other games.

So I guess they chose to have it run in 720p for a reason.
I'd leave it like that. There really is no difference except more work for the scalers on both devices.
 
I think I'll be safe and not force 1080p. Why is it that more games aren't devoloped with a 1080p native res? Is of because people don't see the difference or is it more of a budget issue? COD4 was so pretty...
 
COD4 is only 600p native. (1024x600p 2xAA)

It's the same reason everyone doesn't always max the resolution on PC games. It will make the game run better at a lower res since it needs less resources.
 
[quote name='JMEPO']I think I'll be safe and not force 1080p. Why is it that more games aren't devoloped with a 1080p native res? Is of because people don't see the difference or is it more of a budget issue? COD4 was so pretty...[/quote]
Native 1080p is VERY processor intensive, and games would suffer framerate problems or major tearing if graphics weren't toned down. So 720p is a good choice for pretty much every game.

An early Virtua Tennis on 360 is the only native 1080p game I can remember, there are a couple more though.

As for CoD4, it was native 720p on 360, and I think native 6xxp on PS3.
360 scales everything to 1080p, the dev decides what to scale it to on PS3.
Very pretty game indeed, and goes to show that resolution isn't everything.

EDIT: I guess I'm wrong about 360 version being 720p? In any case, still looks good.
 
I think there's some slight sixaxis crap in the game though, so may not work all the way through.
(like turning a wheel left to right) and I don't know if it can be turned off.
 
[quote name='dallow']Native 1080p is VERY processor intensive, and games would suffer framerate problems or major tearing if graphics weren't toned down. So 720p is a good choice for pretty much every game.[/QUOTE]Pretty much. Next to no games out there are 1080p FULL HD scaled since it uses up quite a bit of processing power and so on (sports games and racers are a bit easier to render in 1080p. Action games on the other hand are a bit harder). There's a full resolution list at Beyond3D:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
 
[quote name='lolwut?']Dave Mulberry from the UK has been created.

Downloading from the UK store takes much longer :cry:[/quote]
Same speeds for me, but you can understand why today will be especially slow. :)
 
[quote name='dallow']Same speeds for me, but you can understand why today will be especially slow. :)[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, it went like 12% in around 15 minutes, but I was only upstairs killing time so I could play it, and seeing it just edge past 10 was a real downer.
 
[quote name='dallow']I think there's some slight sixaxis crap in the game though, so may not work all the way through.
(like turning a wheel left to right) and I don't know if it can be turned off.[/QUOTE]

Dang. Well, I'm more interested in the 360 controller for online play, since after playing I'm thinking this is going to be the next big multi game for me and my crew.
 
Yeah, should work just fine for that.
Sheeeit, it's gotta be impressive then if your crew will be moving onto this game.

15 more mins........

[quote name='lolwut']
Don't get me wrong, it went like 12% in around 15 minutes, but I was only upstairs killing time so I could play it, and seeing it just edge past 10 was a real downer.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm expecting a long wait. Remote play doesn't work for me at work.


What's the size of the US download?
 
I thought the AI was pretty weak, but that could be because it's only Normal for the demo. I'm hoping higher difficulties make them smarter, not just stronger.
 
[quote name='zewone']I'm thinking about picking this up. Since I have Amazon Prime, this is the cheapest/best route for me. Only thing holding me back is no rumble support:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001O89YTU/ref=dp_olp_2[/quote]

I wish that was cheaper. The only thing I didn't like about the Killzone demo (other than the ridiculously stupid AI) was the PS3 controller, but I don't think I want to pay that much for that. I guess I'll have to get adjusted to the dualshock. The alternate control scheme 2 worked well enough I guess.
 
[quote name='ihadFG']I wish that was cheaper. The only thing I didn't like about the Killzone demo (other than the ridiculously stupid AI) was the PS3 controller, but I don't think I want to pay that much for that. I guess I'll have to get adjusted to the dualshock. The alternate control scheme 2 worked well enough I guess.[/quote]

I would be interested in something like that for 360 to a use a ps3 on it. I think I saw something,but it was extremely pricey, and I might as well play the fighters on ps3 instead of buying a adapter to play them on 360. For Resident Evil 5 I rather use the 360 controller. I think the 360 controller would be great for killzone 2, and fps type games.
 
[quote name='zewone']I thought the AI was pretty weak, but that could be because it's only Normal for the demo. I'm hoping higher difficulties make them smarter, not just stronger.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I'm not saying it's brilliant, but I'm stupendously inept. I'm accustomed to the boring FPS design, where, if you imagine a general grid, enemies appear on 1 side. The 'realism' (for want of a better phrase) of this demo was (after blowing up the bridge), kind of a "what the fuck do I shoot at first, because they're fuckin' everywhere?" feeling. A feeling, I should say, that kept getting me killed.

That and pressing R2 to shoot and pulling a grenade. Gotta try other control options.
 
[quote name='zewone']I thought the AI was pretty weak, but that could be because it's only Normal for the demo. I'm hoping higher difficulties make them smarter, not just stronger.[/QUOTE]

Right, yeah I'm hoping they're make better decisions than the usual "I'll hide behind this piece of cover, but stick my head out so the player character can shoot it!"
 
[quote name='Richlough']I've been trying to download this since 1 pm EST and haven't gotten past 7% .
I've tried DL'ing from UK as well , WTfuck ?[/quote]

It didn't take me over a hour. I'm sure that makes you feel better. :)
 
I am downloading this right now. Kind of excited to see how it is. I have seen great reviews and crappy opinions of this game. I hope I like it cause I am desperate for something to play on my PS3 (I hate the controller and get all the multi plat games on my 360)
 
Is there an alternate control scheme? The default one is awkward as hell to me. Also, waaaaaay to dark. The brightness part at the beginning said look for the Helghast logo to be barely visible. I couldn't see it at all, even with the brightness turned all the way up.
 
[quote name='FloodsAreUponUS']So I thought this was pretty bad, and generic.
AI was awful.

Anyone with me?[/quote]

I do not think it was bad, but the demo does make me skeptical of the full game.

The game looks awesome, but I have to say I was expecting better. I thought the game looked insane in the videos I have seen, but I was not awe inspired like I was expecting when I was playing the game itself. Maybe it was just the demo level?

I also felt this weird feeling that the view in the game was too close. I do not know how to explain this any better. Does this make sense to anyone?
 
I will still buy it, but based on the demo, people are riding this game's dick way too hard.

The graphics are nice, but I wasn't blown away. I did have fun playing it, but the PS3 controller kept reminding me how much ass it sucks. Hopefully those FPSFreek joystick enhancers will make it a bit better for me.
 
[quote name='gokou36']I'm hearing people are getting motion sickness and headaches from this game. Any truth to this?[/quote]

That can happen to anyone playing FPS games, but there is a large amount of motion blur when you're turning
 
I haven't even bothered looking at videos of this so i'm going in fresh. Wasn't all that impressed, enemy A.I did the same old same old. Hide but stick one limb out for the player to shoot and around the end as the guy hacked the terminal I kept expecting them to just walk up the steps since I left it wide open, but the soliders wouldn't move from their nice cozy spots . I have no doubt it will be passable but I don't need to buy it day 1 after that demo.
 
Apparently my PS3 wireless in on the fritz , I connected in to my XBOX wireless bridge and everything is 'normal' .
I even finally downloaded the Burnout update .
 
[quote name='gokou36']I'm hearing people are getting motion sickness and headaches from this game. Any truth to this?[/quote]

I got a little lightheaded in the first 30 seconds of the demo (When there is no reticle on screen), but after that I was fine.
 
Demo was ok, but too short and the controls felt odd. I'll admit I was a bit impressed by the graphics even if they didn't even remotely touch the first cg trailer, though I found the art direction to be a little too dark for my tastes though, like Resistance.

It just didn't win me over...at all. They should have at least included some online in there because I'm sure that will be the selling point for some people.
 
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