Kingdom Hearts (Wii)

[quote name='panasonic']GRAPHIC WHORE FOR THE WIN[/quote]

And yet you play Ms PacMan and Alien Hominid?

[quote name='panasonic']i enjoyed driver 3 on xbox very much[/QUOTE]
This cannot be. I cannot believe that I'm seeing this. There is no way that sentence can possibly exist.

Got back to fucking Bizarro World, beacuse the only way that sentence can be true is if you are, indeed, a genuine Bizarro resident.
 
panasonic: Probably shouldn't have mentioned liking Driv3r, because you've just killed your credibility and taste in the eyes of anyone who's halfway intelligent.

As if the "Sony PSP" gamertag didn't already accomplish that. Try having some intelligent opinions to get attention rather than this trolling stuff.

That said, I'd fully expect a Kingdom Hearts title on Wii to supplement a PS3 KH3 that won't sell as well due to the userbase being a third of the Wiis, and Japan not caring about the 360.

Real shitty job on the Mario there, EGM.
 
This April Fools thing was pretty mean of EGM. I've been hoping for Kingdom Hearts 3 to come out on the Wii with Nintendo characters and worlds in addition to Disney, and I was very excited that it was finally happening when I first saw the topic title.
I don't mind stupid little April Fools jokes from EGM like Sonic and Tails being in Super Smash Brothers, but stuff like this, and Wind Waker being remade with the TP graphics engine isn't stuff they should be joking about.
 
[quote name='panasonic']Kingdom hearts 3 on ps3 and then any other spin off can go anywhere but KH3 needs PS3 only. I don't want to play kingdom hearts sequel with shitty graphics when they can be amazing.[/QUOTE]

So I take it you've never played KH1 or 2? Shitty graphics on the worse system (spec-wise, otherwise it was hands-down the best system ever made) out of the three last gen? I (marginally) enjoyied them, but they look like ass when compared to the best of Gamecube & Xbox. Especially when animations, lighting, and all sorts of mapping are considered. Thank god KH is the type of series that doesn't get by its good looks.

Btw, PS2 was hands down the weakest system of the three. This isn't opinion, but cold hard fact. Maybe in your mind, you assumed that the PS2 had better looking games, but no, you are mistaken.
[quote name='howlinmad']W.A. Stokins from Fuldigen, HA would be very unhappy to hear how far they have fallen. :)

I know people that did just that. :) (Waste Tokens)[/QUOTE]

I got taken by the Richter Belmont in TMNT2 code way back in the day (I believe it was the first April Fool's joke they had ever done). I must've spent more time trying to use that damn code than even playing the game. Didn't help that I hand a friend who continued to lie to me about it for almost ten years straight.

[quote name='Rozz']considering the Wii just has the visuals of a last gen system.[/QUOTE]

And that's when you lose all credibility in any arguement concerning the Wii's graphical capabilities. Unless that was a shitty joke, in that case, learn to tell better jokes.

As for KH on Wii, it'll have to wind up on Wii or more likely DS. Square is taking way too big of a hit on their FF13 project. So either KHIII winds up on NDS or Wii, OR we'll be seeing a port to 360 OR they go bankrupt and Square dies :cry:
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']



And that's when you lose all credibility in any arguement concerning the Wii's graphical capabilities. Unless that was a shitty joke, in that case, learn to tell better jokes.

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What the fuck are you talking about? The Wii does not look better than a last-gen system. Many games such as Red Steel, Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, etc. look really shitty (even worse than many last-gen games). Name one game on the Wii that looks better...

and stop joking around. Your unfunny jokes were never humorous in the first place.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']This April Fools thing was pretty mean of EGM. I've been hoping for Kingdom Hearts 3 to come out on the Wii with Nintendo characters and worlds in addition to Disney, and I was very excited that it was finally happening when I first saw the topic title.[/quote]
Kingdom Hearts will never have Nintendo stuff in it. Why? Because that would be fucking retarded. The series is having such a hard time maintaining any sort of cohesiveness already (personally, I think it's already crossed the line in a few places), and adding in Link and Peach and Kirby and Mario would really not help with that at all. It will NEVER happen.
[quote name='Kaijufan']I don't mind stupid little April Fools jokes from EGM like Sonic and Tails being in Super Smash Brothers, but stuff like this, and Wind Waker being remade with the TP graphics engine isn't stuff they should be joking about.[/quote]
Because Zelda and Kingdom Hearts are major serious business, and nothing to EVER be taken lightly. Right.

To anyone that's ever fallen for an April Fool's joke in a video game magazine, I have some prime ocean-front property in Kansas that I'll gladly sell real cheap. Guaranteed to triple in value over the next five years.

Seriously, the shop jobs that you see in EGM's April Fool's jokes aren't even as good as the stuff you see in one of SomethingAwful's Photoshop Phridays. How they fool anyone is beyond me.

[quote name='Rozz']What the fuck are you talking about? The Wii does not look better than a last-gen system.[/quote]
OK, you're making the same stupid stupid mistake as panasonic did regarding the power of the PS2.

This isn't a debatable issue. Regardless of how Wii games have looked up to this point (a mere 3 month's into it's life), it IS a more powerful system. The numbers are not debatable, and you WILL start to see games that could not have been done on the Gamecube eventually. I doubt Mario Galaxy could have run as smoothly on the GCN, for one example. Many developers have been working more on gettin comfortable with the Wii's control setup, rather than pushing the graphics, but they will become more comfortable in time, and start make better-looking games.

[quote name='-Never4ever']As for KH on Wii, it'll have to wind up on Wii or more likely DS. Square is taking way too big of a hit on their FF13 project. So either KHIII winds up on NDS or Wii, OR we'll be seeing a port to 360 OR they go bankrupt and Square dies[/quote]
Okay, seriously, what are you talking about? I'd like to know where you're getting all of this detailed information about Square-Enix's supposidly grim financials.
S-E has hundreds of millions in the bank. Maybe you haven't seen the sales figures for KHII and FFXII and their entire DS lineup, all of which have been massively profitable so far. Christ, they could probably sustain themselves for the rest of the year on the profits from Dragon Quest Monsters Joker and Dragon Quest VIII alone. What makes you think that they're so close to the edge of bankruptcy that they're barely even able to afford the production costs of the FFXIII games? Each of the PS3 FFXIII games are probably sailing along on budgets somewhere between 20 and 30 million, which is fairly typical for the average major next-gen game, and each game is practically guaranteed to gross, at the very least, a quarter of a billion bucks, if you count on sales of at least 5 million copies.

In summation, they can put KHIII anywhere they want, on a practically bottemless budget, and take it to whatever extremes they want. They're one of the biggest, and richest, developer/publishers in the business.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']Thank god KH is the type of series that doesn't get by its good looks.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. It gets by on it's repetative one-button gameplay, and unbelievable gratuitous and overt fanservice at every turn.

I enjoy Kingdom Hearts very much, but I also achknowledge it's flaws.
 
I've never played the first two but the graphical style itself and the nature of animated Disney characters in game is tailor-made for a Nintendo console.
 
Never played the console KH games, but if this ever does hit the Wii, it better not be like Chain of Memories. That one made me throw up a little in my mouth.
 
[quote name='botticus']Never played the console KH games, but if this ever does hit the Wii, it better not be like Chain of Memories. That one made me throw up a little in my mouth.[/quote]

Wait, are you saying that the only Kingdom Hearts game you've ever played is Chain of Memories? Oh man...
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']So I take it you've never played KH1 or 2? Shitty graphics on the worse system (spec-wise, otherwise it was hands-down the best system ever made) out of the three last gen? I (marginally) enjoyied them, but they look like ass when compared to the best of Gamecube & Xbox. Especially when animations, lighting, and all sorts of mapping are considered. Thank god KH is the type of series that doesn't get by its good looks.

Btw, PS2 was hands down the weakest system of the three. This isn't opinion, but cold hard fact. Maybe in your mind, you assumed that the PS2 had better looking games, but no, you are mistaken.


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I never said ps2 was the strongest or had the best grahics but the game did look decent since xbox and gamecube were only a little ahead of it but now we have 3 cores in a 360 and 7 for the ps3 producing great stuff and i want to see that sequel on the ps3. Your arguement is like wanting to see a zelda sequel on n64 rather than a gamecube. i would want zelda on gamecube for better graphics, cool effects, maybe more possibilities that hardware limited. Same damn reason i want it on a next gen console because we all saw what ps2 did and wii ain't goin to that much different unless it is fucked up with poor controls.
 
[quote name='Vegan']Wait, are you saying that the only Kingdom Hearts game you've ever played is Chain of Memories? Oh man...[/quote]Well, there are only three games, and I don't have a PS2, so yes. :D
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']

Btw, PS2 was hands down the weakest system of the three. This isn't opinion, but cold hard fact. Maybe in your mind, you assumed that the PS2 had better looking games, but no, you are mistaken.


As for KH on Wii, it'll have to wind up on Wii or more likely DS. Square is taking way too big of a hit on their FF13 project. So either KHIII winds up on NDS or Wii, OR we'll be seeing a port to 360 OR they go bankrupt and Square dies :cry:[/QUOTE]


You have got to be kidding me... I love Nintendo as much as the next guy, but how the hell can you say The PS2 had the weakest graphics of the last gen? No offense to Nintendo, but the gamecube NEVER had a game that looked like Final Fantasy X, Gran Turismo 4, or God of War. Nintendo had Resident Evil 4 that looked amazing and now Zelda TP, but the PS2 picked that up RE4 and guess what, it looked great. I am not defending any system (and I admit I am a bigger NINTENDO fan), but don't sit here and state that you know "facts" when they aren't true.

And your arguement about Square is elementary. If Square is in trouble then the ENTIRE industry is going straight to hell.
 
[quote name='tayaf69']You have got to be kidding me... I love Nintendo as much as the next guy, but how the hell can you say The PS2 had the weakest graphics of the last gen? No offense to Nintendo, but the gamecube NEVER had a game that looked like Final Fantasy X, Gran Turismo 4, or God of War. Nintendo had Resident Evil 4 that looked amazing and now Zelda TP, but the PS2 picked that up RE4 and guess what, it looked great. I am not defending any system (and I admit I am a bigger NINTENDO fan), but don't sit here and state that you know "facts" when they aren't true.

And your arguement about Square is elementary. If Square is in trouble then the ENTIRE industry is going straight to hell.[/quote]


You know they had to slighty dumb down the graphics to port RE4 to PS2 right?

Listing games that look nice doesn't prove a damn thing.

Wind Waker, RE4, Baten Kaitos 1 + 2, either Metroid prime

The Cube was a more powerful system than the PS2, but chosing the mini disc medium seriously hampered companies taking the graphics ball and running with it.
 
[quote name='hohez']You know they had to slighty dumb down the graphics to port RE4 to PS2 right?

Listing games that look nice doesn't prove a damn thing.

Wind Waker, RE4, Baten Kaitos 1 + 2, either Metroid prime

The Cube was a more powerful system than the PS2, but chosing the mini disc medium seriously hampered companies taking the graphics ball and running with it.[/QUOTE]
The GC was definitely more powerful than the PS2, but the PS2 had better looking game come out for it. Doesn't seem like Nintendo was even trying. A lot of their games were comparable graphically to DC games. There certainly were games that stood out graphically on the GC but not very many.
 
[quote name='whoknows']The GC was definitely more powerful than the PS2, but the PS2 had better looking game come out for it. Doesn't seem like Nintendo was even trying. A lot of their games were comparable graphically to DC games. There certainly were games that stood out graphically on the GC but not very many.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Resident Evil 4 shows, without a doubt, that the GC was capable of incredible things. It was definitely more powerful than the PS2--people don't believe it because developers didn't push the GC nearly as much. What you're seeing in something like God of War II is very likely squeezing every drop out of the PS2, while Nintendo's machine was relatively untapped.

And yes, the Wii will produce attractive games in the future. As previously mentioned, developers are more concerned with control schemes than graphics right now. Personally, I'm glad.
 
[quote name='hohez']You know they had to slighty dumb down the graphics to port RE4 to PS2 right?

Listing games that look nice doesn't prove a damn thing.

Wind Waker, RE4, Baten Kaitos 1 + 2, either Metroid prime

The Cube was a more powerful system than the PS2, but chosing the mini disc medium seriously hampered companies taking the graphics ball and running with it.[/QUOTE]
I know the cube was more powerful, and I agree that they never used the system like they should have. I just know that when I bought Madden for the gamecube, the graphics looked bland compared to the PS2 OR XBOX. I played RE4 for both the cube and PS2 and the graphics were not at all that much different between the two (slightly better on the cube, but not necessarily noticable).


And listing games proves the point that I was going for (in response to the post saying PS2 games could never look better than cube games). I NEVER said a thing about the systems hardware, as I could not give a damn. The PS3 is more powerful, but if developers never use it to it's potential, there's no point in claiming it's games superior to the 360.
 
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