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I wanted to have a reasonable discussion about the lack of games for the PS3. Fanboys for either console need not post, and in fact I'd rather you just stayed away. This is a place to both air frustrations about lack of games, discuss why this is so, and what Sony can do.

It's almost every week I read a news blurb about how some game is releasing for the 360 as the lead system, or on live arcade. This makes me wonder just what is Sony doing to get these games?

It should be easy enough to court small developers of games that could be on the PSN and XBLA.

It does look like we're getting some good games out this year.

Yes, the PS3 has been out for less than a year while the Xbox has had a year lead.

But, then again, where was Sony when some great developers looking to go console started looking for funding money? Mass Effect and Bioshock could have been made at least multiplatform.

I recall one of the main problems, beyond high price, low intall base, was that the developer kits were very poor.

One interesting thing, though, is that Sony is working on getting games, even some big ones. Quantic Dreams, the guys working on Heavy Rain and formerly Omikron and Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy are in a partnership with Sony, so that's likely an exclusive, especially since it seems like Sony paid to give them a massive mocap facility (and I suspect it's the same one they used for Heavenly Sword's mocap).

I'm also wondering what they have in store for Liepzig.
 
The PS3 library can be lacking IF one doesn't have a 360 since a lot of games are on both systems nowadays.

However, I think this Fall/Winter will be when the PS3 starts to shine with LAIR, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and others I'm sure I'm forgetting.

I'm happy with the PSN for now, there's stuff on it I haven't even bought because well, I dont like not having a hard copy of the game...downloading a game feels more like renting it.
 
Er, wait, Uncharted and R&C release this yet? Interesting, wasn't expecting that. I thought it was just a Warhawk, Lair, and Heavenly sword exclusive year.

As for multi platform titles. Well I do have a 360 but I tend to avoid most multiplatforms not on any principle, it's just because they're usually either sports or racing (which I don't play), or more of the same games like Call of Duty 3.

The main thing I want to see on the PS3 is a western style RPG, not western as in the old wild west, but rather something that's not a quirky Japanese RPG. Well, something pretty much like Mass Effect or Knights of the Old Republic, and even Fallout 3.
 
Fallout 3 is coming to the PS3 next year and I believe there are reports that Bioware is working with Sony on an exclusive. I still think there's a good chance the PS3 will see Bioshock either later this year or early next year although there isn't really any basis for that belief.

When you talk about the lack of western-developed RPGs, you could look at the situation two ways: (1) Xbox 360 has twice as many as PS3 OR (2) Xbox 360 has one more western-RPG than PS3 (Oblivion GOTY & Mass Effect versus just Oblivion GOTY).

I still think Uncharted as a chance to take a lot of people by surprise. It's been described as incorporating some Gears of War-like tactics, but it's also an adventure game rather than just shooter.
 
While the current PS3 library is lacking, I don't really have too much of a problem with it. The PS3 looks to have a pretty good looking xmas season. I realize the 360s line-up still out does it, but that is somewhat expected from a console with a longer life and much bigger fanbase.

My main complaint is about the PSN store. It has potential, but Sony is lagging in every single department regarding the PSN (except for movie trailers, which no one gives a crap about). You would think with the 1000s of PS1 titles out there, we would be receiving them more frequently (outside of Japan). And the lack of demos is a big problem too. The 360s demo selection kills PSNs, and, the thing is, most of the demos on the 360 are games that are also coming out on the PS3, so there is no reason for PSN not to feature these demos. On top of all that, the PSN is sorely in need of a revamp. The interface is slow, unorganized, and not suited for a store that will soon have a lot of content.
 
I agree more selection is good. And that there are some great games coming soon. But it really gets me when people say it is nothing but BD player, because there is nothing to play.

I play me a fair bit o' games. But I often wonder how many games people need? I want tons of games, but in really I probably buy/need 10-14 a year. I currently own 3 games. I have finished two, and Oblivion has hours left on it. The two I have finished, have hours of online play left in them. If I had $60 and someone said get yourself PS3 game, I sure wouldn't have to to give than money back. Yeah there are currently more good games available on 360, but if I had a 360, I wouldn't have the time or money to play all of them anyway. I barely have time and money to play the handful good games on PS3.

When people say they need more games, I think they need to step outside and get some excersise.

~S
 
Does sony even know how to get the most out of the cell processor.. I mean even the 360 went through its slow times, when it was released. It's so hard to forget that the ps3 is still Launching.. [thinking about 'Failure to Launch'] launch games haven't been released, devs still on the learning page. I hate to use that excuse every time we talk about lack of games, or delayed games, but its hard not to want polished games NOW, when you look next door and see the 360 fans walloping in self perceived bliss, because they console is out of the launch phase, devs are comfortable with the system, and the learning curve has been lowered [for developing games]. Good things come to those who wait.. when the devs get things going we won't even remember the tough times..
[edit] - overall I'm satisfied with the PS3 library of games, and I definitely want to say that Resistance.. even today is still fun..
 
OK, where did the post about the "PS3 not having any games, but the XBox doesn't either" go? I put a whole blurb about the games coming out this year in there; the long and short of it is that come January of '08 the PS3 will have enough exclusives to stand it's ground against the 360. Moving into next year we'll see more titles that are cross-platform being developed in tandom and not for the 360 then ported to the PS3. Hell, we may start to see some being focussed more on the PS3 as the hardware ages simply due to the extra power it grants.

Either way, it's expected that a console's first year is going to have a few decent games but a majority are going to just be "meh". It's after that 1 year mark where the games really start to shine and show their potential. In 2 years, I highly doubt there'll be people saying that the PS3 doesn't have a decent library (IMO we may be saying that about the Wii if they don't get their shit together).
 
Right now the issue is that while there are some really good games on the PS3, many of them either...

A. Came out much earlier for the 360 and as such, people played them to death there. (Oblivion, Rainbow 6 Vegas, GRAW 2)

or...

B. Because the games were built initially for the 360, the PS3 version isn't as good as the PS3 version. (NCAA 08, Madden 08)

Hopefully development starts shifting to a more neutral position where both consoles strengths will be catered to.
 
I love how people complain that the PSN is lacking, yet XBLA took FOREVER before they finally started cranking out games weekly. We had spans of weeks (if not months) before new titles were released on XBLA. Things will come to the PSN, but it will take time.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']I love how people complain that the PSN is lacking, yet XBLA took FOREVER before they finally started cranking out games weekly. We had spans of weeks (if not months) before new titles were released on XBLA. Things will come to the PSN, but it will take time.[/QUOTE]

The worst thing about the PSN is the constant tease due to seeing all the stuff they have up on the Japanese PSN. I mean, there are literally over 30 or 40 PSX games up! We have what? 12?

I don't necessarily need the exact same games on the US PSN but come on, the old Final Fantasy games are a no-brainer. Capcom is a company that seems willing to whore out their franchises, where's the Street Fighter stuff? Hey, everyone's psyched for MGS4, why not throw up MGS1?
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']I love how people complain that the PSN is lacking, yet XBLA took FOREVER before they finally started cranking out games weekly. We had spans of weeks (if not months) before new titles were released on XBLA. Things will come to the PSN, but it will take time.[/quote]

Yea but its different than XBLA arcade. Sony is doing an awesome job in Japan, so it shows that they actually have the potential to do the same in the US
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']I love how people complain that the PSN is lacking, yet XBLA took FOREVER before they finally started cranking out games weekly. We had spans of weeks (if not months) before new titles were released on XBLA. Things will come to the PSN, but it will take time.[/QUOTE]

I'm complaining because, like Halo05 said, the content is there, it just isn't being given to us. PS1 games are there, but most are only exclusive to the JPN store. Demos are there, but, for some reason, only show up on the 360 (even though the game is due out for both consoles). I realize these things take time, and don't happen overnight, but I still think, with that in mind, the PSN is severely lacking.
 
I wish they would enhance the PS1 titles, rather than give us a straight port of them. Would love to play some older titles online.
 
One area where they are severely lacking is demos of THEIR psn games. We should have a trial/demo of every single original psn title available, including super stardust and calling all cars. We should not be forced to blind buy a game that we can't even rent through gamefly.
 
[quote name='Cyb3-rr']One area where they are severely lacking is demos of THEIR psn games. We should have a trial/demo of every single original psn title available, including super stardust and calling all cars. We should not be forced to blind buy a game that we can't even rent through gamefly.[/quote]

I agree about the PSN. I'm almost regretting getting my PS3 now. I mean I love it and all, but the reason I was waiting was for MGS4, as well as the lack of games out.

As long as I can hold out til the end of the month, the flood gates more or less open. However, Sony should start releasing some more content online during this lack of gaming. I know you can't release all the good stuff now, but release at least something good, instead of some movie trailers and one or two games a few people may be interested in.
 
Not many great games to play.

Even less on the Wii.

I'm being patient on both systems.
The first year is always the hardest when you're an early adopter.
 
On of my friends just bought a PS2 and it's his first system since the PS1. I'm almost jealous because he has so many great games to choose from and many many hours of fun ahead of him...
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Does sony even know how to get the most out of the cell processor.. [/quote]Probably not. It usually takes time before the full functionality of a console is written for. I'd say Gears of War (while there will definately be better games for the 360 down the pike) was a pretty early out of the park homer that makes incredible use of the 360s hardware.

[edit] - overall I'm satisfied with the PS3 library of games, and I definitely want to say that Resistance.. even today is still fun..
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I'm not. Still haven't bought a single game for it. My big bro is getting one for his birthday, and I'm supposed to find some games for it... haven't a clue what there is that's good and cheap.
 
[quote name='guinaevere']Probably not. It usually takes time before the full functionality of a console is written for. I'd say Gears of War (while there will definately be better games for the 360 down the pike) was a pretty early out of the park homer that makes incredible use of the 360s hardware.

I'm not. Still haven't bought a single game for it. My big bro is getting one for his birthday, and I'm supposed to find some games for it... haven't a clue what there is that's good and cheap.[/quote]Bioshock will be the next "out of the park homer", with a few more up the pipeline.

Right now, I have two games for the PS3, Resistance and NG Sigma. Only other game I can see getting in the next few months is Heavenly Sword, and possibly Lair, if it's not the mess EGM made it out to be. Uncharted and R&C: ToD are also on my "should get" list. Rest is meh or worse.
 
I couldn't justify my purchase of the system when after four months I hadn't bought a single game.

Even when I plan on buying another one at MGS 4's launch there still isn't going to be shit to play besides MGS4 and LBP.
 
[quote name='dallow']Not many great games to play.

Even less on the Wii.

I'm being patient on both systems.
The first year is always the hardest when you're an early adopter.[/QUOTE]

That's true what you said about the first year...

I don't understand why we're talking about this yet AGAIN.. its not like this is the first set of video game systems that have ever been on the market. This start off slow and then over time they get moving... that's the way its always been.
 
[quote name='dallow']Not many great games to play.

Even less on the Wii.

I'm being patient on both systems.
The first year is always the hardest when you're an early adopter.[/QUOTE]
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I don't think so, Tim.
 
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I don't think so, Tim.[/QUOTE]
In what way is he wrong? AKA list off the Wii games that give it a better library currently than the PS3
 
As an owner of both consoles, I tend to agree that there aren't a whole lot of exciting options for the PS3 alone. I picked up Resistance (it's OK, but does not approach Gears of War in my opinion) and Calling All Cars (as good or better as anything on Xbox Live) but otherwise just haven't seen much of interest.

And yeah, it's true that PSN was "only" launched 10 months ago, but I think it's undeniable that Sony just plain screwed up by not having lots of "A" material ready to go. I mean, the PS3 launch was delayed 8 months because of Blu-Ray issues, right? What the hell was the PSN team doing during that time? It's all well and good to make comparisons to the Xbox 360 at a comparative point in its development cycle, but from a business/competition standpoint, new buyers are looking at what's available for each system. If Sony wants to compete, they've got to play ball, and if the other guy has much better wares, the line "but just wait another 6 months ..." will only work so many times.

Having said all that, it will be interesting to see how the PS3 games develop as gamemakers figure out how to use the PS3 hardware. We all know that the 360 is easier to develop for, but I'm hoping (as a PS3 owner) that despite the fact that its a PITA to work with, the Cell will come into its own and start cranking out some awesome games before too long. And it will be interesting to see if this ends up working in Sony's favor -- if it truly is easier to make games for the 360 (and to port games over to the 360) then maybe developers will be forced to develop games on the PS3 first.

But Sony's got to move some units if they want that to happen. As someone here said, it doesn't matter how many games a system has so long as it's got a decent selection of great games. But only 5-10% of games for ANY system are truly great, and it takes lots of companies trying (and pushing each other to make better games) to create those few, must-have games that everyone wants. At this point it'll take a while for Sony to get it's in-house A-list games to market, but in the short term they could make the PS3 a hell of a lot more desireable by improving PSN offerings to equal what's available on the 360. I'm just hoping Sony will get off of its ass and make this thing a horse race!
 
[quote name='snowsquirrel']I agree more selection is good. And that there are some great games coming soon. But it really gets me when people say it is nothing but BD player, because there is nothing to play.

I play me a fair bit o' games. But I often wonder how many games people need? I want tons of games, but in really I probably buy/need 10-14 a year. I currently own 3 games. I have finished two, and Oblivion has hours left on it. The two I have finished, have hours of online play left in them. If I had $60 and someone said get yourself PS3 game, I sure wouldn't have to to give than money back. Yeah there are currently more good games available on 360, but if I had a 360, I wouldn't have the time or money to play all of them anyway. I barely have time and money to play the handful good games on PS3.

When people say they need more games, I think they need to step outside and get some excersise.

~S[/QUOTE]

Or, like me, they only like a /SMALL/ subset of games and genres, so a larger number of games total makes it more likely they will get those 10 to 14 games a year they enjoy.
 
I love my PS3. I enjoy my PS3 much more than my Wii, and on par with my Xbox 360. I love how good PS2 games look upscaled on it, I love high definition Blu-ray movies, I love having my entire music library and high-res photos of friends and family on my hard-drive. However, the PS3 SEVERELY needs good games. After three months I still do not own a single PS3 game. My first game will be The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion GOTY in September. After that, Daxter, and maybe Motorstorm if I can get it for $30 or less. Where are the RPG's?!?
 
[quote name='dfo']I'm just hoping Sony will get off of its ass and make this thing a horse race![/quote] They have.

Maybe you missed GDC, their Gamer's Day, and E3.
They also had a private event on the 9th and 10th (embaro is lifted Friday), and the Liezpig (sp?) convention later this month is supposed to show off even more new things. They will have another Sony convention later after that. They are trying damn hard to show off what is worth the wait.

They are working very hard, and this fall, holiday season, and early part of 08 should be nice for everyone that's been waiting for the games that Chad Warden has been talking about.

Until then, my PS3 makes for a nice break with the few games I have, and a very nice BD player to enjoy with the family.
 
Part of the problem is the PS3 shares too many games with the 360 (which is currently quite a bit cheaper). For 360 owners, they have little reason to buy a PS3 (outside of a couple games and blu-ray). For non-next-gen gamers (the majority) they compare the two line-ups and find it hard to justify the premium price for the PS3.
 
I'm not really going to read many posts, since I just want to say how I currently feel. I'll list what genres I like, and I'll say how PS3 is doing in them:

Japanese RPGs - Right now, there's only Enchanted Arms which is all right. I did not expect PS3 to have good JRPGs for a while, because it took a while for PS1, PS2, and PSP to have a great selection of JRPGs. So I'm not going to complain (The 360 is just now starting to get them, so that's almost 2 years). Folklore will help a little (not the true JRPG, but still really good from the demo I played), and having FFXIII, FF versus XIII, Disgaea 3, White Knight Story, etc. in the future makes me happy.

Music/Dance - Nothing right now. SingStar is pretty big to me and should help quite a bit (I won't buy it on PS2 because I know it's coming to PS3). Having Guitar Hero 3 and Rockband is big. I really want some DDR on PS3 (and Sony first party music games), but we'll see. Everyday shooter may help.

Platform - Nothing other than Sonic (which is terrible), but having Ratchet & Clank Future (my favorite platforming series), is huge and should help. I heard Ape Escape 4 was announced, but never revealed (that should help a lot).

Fighters - PS3 is fine now in fighters, having VF5, Tekken 5 DR, and MKII. Oh course I want more fighters, but I'm not complaining with what PS3 has. Tekken 6 and Soul Calibur 4 coming in the future is huge.

Racers - PS3 is fantastic right now in them, having a Ridge Racer, MotorStorm, Formula One, Need for Speed Carbon, GT HD, GripShift, etc. right now. A few more interesting ones coming later this year, and Wipeout HD.

Action (with swords) - Not bad. I liked Genji 2 (not as much as the first), and Ninja Gaiden Sigma is great. Heavenly Sword coming soon is great. I see a bright future.

Flight shooters - Only Blazing Angels for now, but having Warhawk soon definitely helps. I don't expect the genre to be huge on PS3. I do hope an Ace Combat comes to PS3 one day.

Action shooters - I'm not a big FPS fan, but love Resistance. PS3 is doing pretty good in the genre currently, and having Uncharted, Killzone 2, etc. in the future is great.

Puzzle - Mostly stuff on PSN, but not bad (I like all the games in Go! Puzzle and Piyotama is decent). I can't wait for Super Puzzle Fighter II. I really want XI GO and Intelligent Qube on PSN.

Sports - Pretty good (has basketball and a Tennis game I like). I just want my super deformed Golf game (which Hot Shots Golf is).

PS3 may lack games in my very favorite genres, like JRPGs, Music/Dance, and Platformers, but covers all the other genres I like pretty good. I do see those genres being well covered in the future, so that's part of the reason I feel comfortable making PS3 my main console. But right now, PS2 is still getting JRPGs and music/dance games, along with me having a massive backlog of PS2 platformers (which my PS3 can play), so I'm not upset at all. Right now I go to PS2 to cover the missing genres, but PS3 will eventually take over everything.

I'd give the PS3 lineup currently a 7/10, which is good (downloads would get 7.5/10, while disc based games would get 6.5/10). At the same time last gen (consoles being out less than a year), I'd give Xbox 7/10, GC 6/10, PS2 6/10, and Dreamcast 9/10.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I'd give the PS3 lineup currently a 7/10, which is good (downloads would get 7.5/10, while disc based games would get 6.5/10). At the same time last gen (consoles being out less than a year), I'd give Xbox 7/10, GC 6/10, PS2 6/10, and Dreamcast 9/10.[/quote]
At this point in it's life cycle, Xbox had Halo, Max Payne, JSRF, Splinter Cell, and Morrowind. GameCube had Eternal Darkness, REmake, Pikmin, Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, Rogue Squadron II, Wave Race, and Super Mario Sunshine.
 
[quote name='lanzarlaluna']At this point in it's life cycle, Xbox had Halo, Max Payne, JSRF, Splinter Cell, and Morrowind. GameCube had Eternal Darkness, REmake, Pikmin, Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, Rogue Squadron II, Wave Race, and Super Mario Sunshine.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't really matter.

He's just making up numbers in his head.
 
[quote name='zewone']It doesn't really matter.

He's just making up numbers in his head.[/QUOTE]

I have a feeling TMK might not be around much longer. He seems to do this a lot.
 
[quote name='zewone']It doesn't really matter.

He's just making up numbers in his head.[/quote] True. Perhaps a LOL would've been more appropriate. :lol:
 
[quote name='zewone']It doesn't really matter.

He's just making up numbers in his head.[/QUOTE]If you don't have anything nice to say, don't post at all.

[quote name='lanzarlaluna']At this point in it's life cycle, Xbox had Halo, Max Payne, JSRF, Splinter Cell, and Morrowind. GameCube had Eternal Darkness, REmake, Pikmin, Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, Rogue Squadron II, Wave Race, and Super Mario Sunshine.[/QUOTE]You're a little bit ahead of what I was thinking. I was thinking around the beginning of August, back in the years, 2000, 2001, and 2002. I don't wish to discuss which games I liked and which games I did not (because I owned those consoles during that time period). What I can say is that GC had the tiniest selection of games I liked.

Although I gave PS3 and Xbox the same score, the advantage goes to Xbox oh course, but I felt it's lineup was just under an 8 (if it had a platformer I liked, I would have given it an 8 without a doubt, but not until Blinx came). PS3 just barely crosses over 7 in my case (more like a 7.1).

[quote name='lanzarlaluna']True. Perhaps a LOL would've been more appropriate. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Nope, I'm actually being very honest. I've bought many consoles near launch in my lifetime, and I'm just saying how they compare in my eyes. I somewhat used a general scaling because I couldn't accurately say what I thought, but I kind of get the general idea.

Zewone fails to understand that although I am loyal to the PS brand, I still buy just about every console/handheld within a year of release and I've been supported of most all (Giving them 14 or more games). I'm one of the biggest gamers around (I wouldn't date a girl, even if she was really hot, if she had a problem with me buying and playing a lot of games).
 
The summer after launch and PS3 has next to nothing. The 360 didn't have much at the same point in their life cycle, either. That isn't the issue, though. It's not the 360's fault that the PS3 was a year late to the game.

I personally feel that the only great games this generation are Gears of War and, possibly, Wii Sports. I'll probably get roasted for saying that a second time.

Starting now everything is changing. The PS3 games coming out this year are head and shoulders above anything the system has seen. Heavenly Sword, War Hawk, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted... that could be spectacular.

Before I get killed again, the 360 has badassed games coming out, too. Mass Effect could be the best game on any console, imho. Halo 3 is the 800 lb gorilla. BioShock is getting reviews raging from "A+" to "A+++". Even the Wii is getting two of it's biggest franchises with Mario and Smash Bros.

Now if you add in the multiplatform games like Rock Band, Assassins Creed and Madden/new sports games, you have a spectacularly good lineup of games. If a game like Assassins Creed had been released in May or June, it would have been the talk of the talk. Now it will probably get lost in the shuffle of all the great games.
 
Well there's still the PS2 library of games... there's still some great games there.. God of War II, Bully, Odin Sphere, Raiden, you have to give credit for every game that can plan on the ps3.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Well there's still the PS2 library of games... there's still some great games there.. God of War II, Bully, Odin Sphere, Raiden, you have to give credit for every game that can plan on the ps3.[/quote]

No you don't. If you want to play those games you can buy a $120 PStwo.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Well there's still the PS2 library of games... there's still some great games there.. God of War II, Bully, Odin Sphere, Raiden, you have to give credit for every game that can plan on the ps3.[/QUOTE]I agree. That's why I call the PS3, the Ultimate PlayStation. :D
[quote name='javeryh']No you don't. If you want to play those games you can buy a $120 PStwo.[/QUOTE]But that $130 PSTwo cannot upscale games up to 1080p (Playing a PS2 in HD looks ugly). Also, you still gotta buy those $25 8MB memory cards to save games. If you're like me, who owned 200+ PS2 games at one point, I needed around 8 memory cards. With the PS3, I can save all PS2 games on the HDD, eliminating the HDD completely. Also, that $130 PS2 can't download PS1 games and other stuff. That's why, I rather just buy another PS3 over a PS2, if playing PS2 games was a priority.
 
[quote name='javeryh']No you don't. If you want to play those games you can buy a $120 PStwo.[/QUOTE]


I did.. 120 for PS2 as many memory cards that can fit onto 60gb, upscaler, 300 for blu ray player, and 180 for PS3... not a bad deal...
 
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[quote name='Thomas96']I did.. 120 for PS2 as many memory cards that can fit onto 60gb, upscaler, 300 for blu ray player, and 180 for PS3... not a bad deal...[/QUOTE]QFT. Makes perfect sense to me and I agree. Definitely worth it to pay the extra for a PS3. :)
 
I always find it so funny how people give TheManaKnight so much crap for being a Playstation fanboy, and yet those same people who criticize him let Gizmo off the hook even though he is just as bad in the opposite direction... Hmm... If Manaknight enjoys the PS3 that much more than the other consoles, so what? It's his right and opinion.

Anyways, in the first year I have had fun with Resistance, Motorstorm, NGS and Oblivion, and on hte PSN Super Stardust HD is incredible. I am happy.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']I always find it so funny how people give TheManaKnight so much crap for being a Playstation fanboy, and yet those same people who criticize him let Gizmo off the hook even though he is just as bad in the opposite direction... Hmm... If Manaknight enjoys the PS3 that much more than the other consoles, so what? It's his right and opinion.

Anyways, in the first year I have had fun with Resistance, Motorstorm, NGS and Oblivion, and on hte PSN Super Stardust HD is incredible. I am happy.[/QUOTE]
Then why are you calling out Gizmo?
 
My current feeling about the PS3 is this:

Lack of PS1 games on the PSN sucks, the PSN games that are there are great, the PSN games on the way look even better, the lack of retail games sucks, but games are on the way. Overall, I feel better about the system than I did about the 360 this time last year, which was in a similar position, but had less on XBL and less to look forward to, imho. that's just for comparison's sake, and is completely subjective. part of it is that I'm also using the PS3 for everything else it can do as well (which is a lot.)
 
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