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couple more deals happend on the forefront.

Atlanta's Wilson Betemit to the dodgers for Danys Baez and Will Aybar
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2533245

philly's David Bell to the Brewers for minor leaguer pitcher
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2533196

Cleveland's Ben Broussard to Seattle for Shin soo chin which is old news..

looks like the braves are making a run for the post season with this move..but chipper went out of tonights game so i dont know who will take over for them at third..their bullpen has now gotten really strong with wickman and baez. as for the bell trade same thing..looks like the bew crew are making a run at it also.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']I think the rangers overpaid for a rental player in lee, who is good, but nothing great. Cruz is supposed to be a talented prospect. It just doesn't make sense for the rangers[/quote]

I don't think so.

Cordero has been awful all season long and hasn't had the same "stuff" he's had in the past. Unless he can regain his former form, he's a waste of a roster spot.

Nix fell out of favor big time. The guy is a walking strike out, but he can make some good defensive plays from time to time.

Mench is the only guy I'd like for us to have kept. But he's such a streaky hitter, and he never was able to stay in the lineup.

Even if we can't keep Lee, I've heard nothing but good things about Cruz, and I'd be happy with this trade if he can become a pretty good player. He was the Brewers' minor league player of the year last year and looks to be a great outfielder.

And Lee is by far the best power hitter on the team now. He should be able to revive our slumping offense and help us win some games.

I really like this trade. We didn't give up anything big and didn't hurt our depth at any point. We just need to find another good set-up man to replace Cordero, but that shouldn't be too hard.

As long as we don't trade away any of our stud minor league pitchers, I'll be okay.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']I don't think so.

Cordero has been awful all season long and hasn't had the same "stuff" he's had in the past. Unless he can regain his former form, he's a waste of a roster spot.

Nix fell out of favor big time. The guy is a walking strike out, but he can make some good defensive plays from time to time.

Mench is the only guy I'd like for us to have kept. But he's such a streaky hitter, and he never was able to stay in the lineup.

Even if we can't keep Lee, I've heard nothing but good things about Cruz, and I'd be happy with this trade if he can become a pretty good player. He was the Brewers' minor league player of the year last year and looks to be a great outfielder.

And Lee is by far the best power hitter on the team now. He should be able to revive our slumping offense and help us win some games.

I really like this trade. We didn't give up anything big and didn't hurt our depth at any point. We just need to find another good set-up man to replace Cordero, but that shouldn't be too hard.

As long as we don't trade away any of our stud minor league pitchers, I'll be okay.[/QUOTE]

Cruz could be good, but probably not great. He's already 25 and on his fourth team. He also strikes out a ton and probably projects as about a >250 hitter with some power in the majors. Regardless, the Brewers should have been able to get more than they did.
 
[quote name='greendj27']Cruz could be good, but probably not great. He's already 25 and on his fourth team. He also strikes out a ton and probably projects as about a >250 hitter with some power in the majors. Regardless, the Brewers should have been able to get more than they did.[/QUOTE]

From what I heard on Cold Pizza, the Rangers were the only team to offer major league players and not prospects which is why they got him. With that said, they should have dangled him for more than 24 hours.
 
In tentatively agreeing to the trade that will land them Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle, the Yankees will take on all of the money due to both Abreu and Lidle. The Phillies aren't opening a window for the Yankees to negotiate with Abreu. At this point, the Phillies are believed to be talking with Abreu about whether he'll waive his no-trade clause without his $16 million option for 2008 being guaranteed.


http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2522380

and all they are giving up is mid level prospects
 
[quote name='ryanbph']In tentatively agreeing to the trade that will land them Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle, the Yankees will take on all of the money due to both Abreu and Lidle. The Phillies aren't opening a window for the Yankees to negotiate with Abreu. At this point, the Phillies are believed to be talking with Abreu about whether he'll waive his no-trade clause without his $16 million option for 2008 being guaranteed.


http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2522380

and all they are giving up is mid level prospects[/QUOTE]

I wonder how Abreu will do in New York. He doesn't seem like someone who will handle pressure very well.
 
not only that, but he isn't hitting for power...the yanks are getting matsui back soon, and sheff should be back in early sept/late aug...while both sheff and matsui hurt there wrists, and there swing/avg/power might not return for the playoff push, abreu is making a ton of money for a guy w/ 8 homers. Over his 10 year career he avg out around 22hr a year.
 
Phillies are morons, they could have gotten so much more for Abreu and Lidle. Instead they take 4 shitty prospects? I thought they are supposed to be improving their club, not making it worse.
 
[quote name='tcrash247']Phillies are morons, they could have gotten so much more for Abreu and Lidle. Instead they take 4 shitty prospects? I thought they are supposed to be improving their club, not making it worse.[/QUOTE]

No they couldn't. Not with them wanting someone to take Abreu's salary off their hands. If they could have gotten more, don't you think they would have taken it?
 
[quote name='tcrash247']Phillies are morons, they could have gotten so much more for Abreu and Lidle. Instead they take 4 shitty prospects? I thought they are supposed to be improving their club, not making it worse.[/QUOTE]

Yeah bro, no one wouldve given us better. You think the sox were willing to deal lester, paps, delcarmen, Hansen? Yeah right. We did our best to get SOMETHING. Everyone knew we werent getting what we wanted for them. We saved a ton of money. Now if only someone would take Burrell.....
 
[quote name='greendj27']No they couldn't. Not with them wanting someone to take Abreu's salary off their hands. If they could have gotten more, don't you think they would have taken it?[/QUOTE]

Not only that but Abreu has a no trade clause.
 
[quote name='jPoD']Yeah bro, no one wouldve given us better. You think the sox were willing to deal lester, paps, delcarmen, Hansen? Yeah right. We did our best to get SOMETHING. Everyone knew we werent getting what we wanted for them. We saved a ton of money. Now if only someone would take Burrell.....[/QUOTE]

i dont think the sox wanted to take on abreu's salary and at this point paps is worth alot more than abreu and lidle combined. I heard they were dangling their OFs with Nixon and Crisp being available..anyway the yanks are the only team to able to take on the leftover 16 mill...anyway i dont think the sox want to void their future either...those players will be very good in a year or two which will keep the sox in the running for a very very long time.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']i dont think the sox wanted to take on abreu's salary and at this point paps is worth alot more than abreu and lidle combined. I heard they were dangling their OFs with Nixon and Crisp being available..anyway the yanks are the only team to able to take on the leftover 16 mill...anyway i dont think the sox want to void their future either...those players will be very good in a year or two which will keep the sox in the running for a very very long time.[/quote]
the sox weren't in the abreau running...cocco crisp, williemo pena, trot nixon, mark loreta, alex gonsales, and mike lowell are all available to be traded according to buster olney. Supposedly they are working on deals with several teams...ie trade loretta somewhere, move dustin pedroia to 2b from the minors, and take the player they got for loretta, and cocco to another team etc...oakland, detroit, san diego padres, the astro's and the devil rays are teams the sox are talking with..olney reported about a week ago, that it will be one of the bigger blockbusters in a long time, and would improve the red sox as a team. AL executives close to the dealings said " Wow " in regards to the players involved, but said that most likely wouldn't happen before the trade deadline
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']i dont think the sox wanted to take on abreu's salary and at this point paps is worth alot more than abreu and lidle combined. I heard they were dangling their OFs with Nixon and Crisp being available..anyway the yanks are the only team to able to take on the leftover 16 mill...anyway i dont think the sox want to void their future either...those players will be very good in a year or two which will keep the sox in the running for a very very long time.[/QUOTE]

believe me, as a Sox fan I just thank god that the front office has a clue what theyre doing unlike another team's FO. *cough phillies, cough*.
 
wow if it happens...than this could change the AL east for good. i also hear that the mets are offering up Lastings Milledge and Aaron Heilman for Barry Zito..i still dont know if this is a good deal because i really like Milledge and Zito is in the last year of his contract..on top of that he is a client of Boras..and you know he will look elsewhere because of him.
 
[quote name='tcrash247']Phillies are morons, they could have gotten so much more for Abreu and Lidle. Instead they take 4 shitty prospects? I thought they are supposed to be improving their club, not making it worse.[/QUOTE]


they are improving the club, just not this years' club. It freed up a ton of cash, maybe some decent prospects(the SS was a number 1 pick), and maybe they call someone up now that shows they can make it in the majors. I would have rather seen Burrell go, but Os wanted him and he only wanted to go to NY or Boston.
 
loretta is not in the starting lineup tonight...usually when a bosox player has an offday, it is announced several days in advance...maybe loretta is on his way out?? Let the domino's fall.....
 
[quote name='ryanbph']loretta is not in the starting lineup tonight...usually when a bosox player has an offday, it is announced several days in advance...maybe loretta is on his way out?? Let the domino's fall.....[/QUOTE]
Left handed batters hit Lackey better, plus Francona likes to work Cora into the lineup whenever he can.

There was a rumor that Loretta could be gone in a 3 way deal for Lugo, but I doubt that.
 
Detroit gets 1B Sean Casey from Pittsburgh for ML Pitcher Brian Rogers.

Sounds like a good move to me, as long as he doesn't turn out to be John Smoltz ;)

Also, more surprising....Detroit optioned Chris Shelton to the minors for a roster spot. Maybe they will let him work on his swing to get him back to how he started.
 
Twins made a major move....Kyle Lohse to the Reds for a minor league pitcher. Talk about a block buster. I guess gettting rid of his contract is good.
 
[quote name='starman9000']Twins made a major move....Kyle Lohse to the Reds for a minor league pitcher. Talk about a block buster. I guess gettting rid of his contract is good.[/QUOTE]

Interesting, I'm not the biggest Twins fan, but watching the Tigers, you tend to keep up with the competition. Isn't Lohse a starter over there? Why are they unloading someone for future help if they are in the wild card hunt?

I like the Tiger trade here. Casey is a solid .300 hitter. This year's team reminds me of some of the teams the Braves had in the 90's. They always had strong pitching, but they were average at the plate. So, when they got to the playoffs, their pitchers could hold the other team, but they would lose a lot of low scoring matchups. I think Casey is another bat that can help.
 
[quote name='lordxixor101']Interesting, I'm not the biggest Twins fan, but watching the Tigers, you tend to keep up with the competition. Isn't Lohse a starter over there? Why are they unloading someone for future help if they are in the wild card hunt?

I like the Tiger trade here. Casey is a solid .300 hitter. This year's team reminds me of some of the teams the Braves had in the 90's. They always had strong pitching, but they were average at the plate. So, when they got to the playoffs, their pitchers could hold the other team, but they would lose a lot of low scoring matchups. I think Casey is another bat that can help.[/QUOTE]

Lohse was a starter early in the year, but he was doing terrible. Plus he had some clubhouse issues I guess. His salary was also pretty bloated.
The prospect they got sounds decent, but he won't do much to help this year. Maybe they will turn around and throw him in a trade for someone else?
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']wow if it happens...than this could change the AL east for good. i also hear that the mets are offering up Lastings Milledge and Aaron Heilman for Barry Zito..i still dont know if this is a good deal because i really like Milledge and Zito is in the last year of his contract..on top of that he is a client of Boras..and you know he will look elsewhere because of him.[/quote]

The Mets NEED another big time starter. Zito (or Schmidt) will give them a tough 1-2-3 for the playoffs (with Pedro and Glavine). Getting rid of Milledge will suck (I like him too) but he isn't a young pitcher - he's an outfielder and they are a dime a dozen. Sure there's no guarantees of signing Zito beyond this year but he has said he wants to pitch in NY and the NL is going to be much kinder to his ERA and overall value so I think there's a good chance. Plus, the Mets lineup is just sick. They are going to be scoring a ton of runs for the foreseeable future.

The time to win it all is now - the Mets can afford to give guys rest heading into the playoffs with such a huge lead in the East. They NEED to make a move to put them over the top.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Left handed batters hit Lackey better, plus Francona likes to work Cora into the lineup whenever he can.

There was a rumor that Loretta could be gone in a 3 way deal for Lugo, but I doubt that.[/quote]

I don't buy the LH hitting lineup story. Francona knew about lackey pitching b4 the series started. He also announces regulars getting days off several days in advance as well. Espn reported that it looked like Loretta was tenatively traded to the cardinals, but the deal was dropped due to the cards getting the Ronnie Belliard from clevand.
 
Anyone else thank the Reds done ok at the deadline? I would like to have seen them lure Oliver Perez or Kip Wells from the Pirates. These two guys should strengthen up pitching if they can get on a role. Bray is turning out to be pretty good with room to work. The other cat I am still wary about. The Reds have a real good shot at the NL Wild Card this year and might still be able to fight for the NL Central.

I got tickets to see the Reds play the Cards Aug 9th so that might show what they got for the rest of the year.
 
I kinda wish the Andruw-Crisp/Hansen/Lester deal went down. We need a lead-off hitter, and as much as I would hate to see Andruw go, at least he would have gone to my second team, and we would have gotten pitching for the future. Maybe it will still happen...
 
i think the holdup in the deal, the sox offered hansen/crisp/ and a mid level prospect. Jones is a great player, but shit you would have lester, and hansen on the roster for several years on the cheap, and cocco isn't that expensive.
 
I think Texas did pretty well at the deadline with all their pickups. Also LA did pretty well getting Maddux. People may focus on his ERA and his record, but he has pitched pretty well aside from some starts aganist the Mets (the Cubs hitting is a big reason why he has a losing record).
 
[quote name='ryanbph']i think the holdup in the deal, the sox offered hansen/crisp/ and a mid level prospect. Jones is a great player, but shit you would have lester, and hansen on the roster for several years on the cheap, and cocco isn't that expensive.[/QUOTE]

Yup, that's what it was. JS wanted Lester, that's the only reason it didn't go down.
 
another sad year for both PA teams, the usual fire sale for the buccos and another year of dissapointment for the Phils, at least they are doing it now and not trying to pretend they are in contension at the end of the year
 
Yep, what a BUST of a trade-deadline. Glad the Tigers got Casey....and by the looks of tonight, they need some defense at 1B. 3 errors for DY tonight.
 
[quote name='javeryh']This year was WEAK. not many sellers since the wild card has put a ton of teams into contention...[/QUOTE]

yeah seriously...we didnt do anything to bolster pitching except trade for a young sturggling pitcher in Perez and got an old met back and i mean old. dont get me wrong hernandez isnt that bad this year with a 2.57 era but we needed a big pitcher and trading Nady away could hurt us i think because his versatility is there incase if another bat goes down...well looks like miledge is our new starter in RF.....geez this is WEAK!
 
Man, Big Papi came through for Boston yet again, and in the process just happened to set the good ol' Yanks back into 2nd in the east...
 
I was at a tavern when Ortiz hit the homerun and the whole place erupted. I caught the end of the shot and then saw the replay and prayed the drunks were cheering for a replay of an old homer, haha.
 
Big Papi is sick. He just takes it to another level when the pressure is on.

In trade news, the Mets effed up, I think. They needed another big time starter and they didn't get one. Oh well, they should still get to the NLCS and possibly the WS if they can get by the Cardinals (you know Carpenter is good for 2 wins in the series and I just pray Mulder doesn't get his act together by then). Whoever represents the NL is going to get crushed in the WS though by either the Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox or Twins (I don't think the Tigers will make it that far).
 
its tough to make big trades at the deadlines, with so many players with no trade clauses, and the fact that every gm thinks they can get the world for a rental player. The braves thougth they could get hanson, a 22 or so year old making 500k for the next couple season, john lester 22 year old lefty who is 6 - 1 making about $350k for the next 5 seasons, and cocco crisp 26 making 3.5mill for the next 3 season for andrew jones. Jones is a great player, but come on 2 stud pitchers, and a young speedy of.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I want a repeat 1986 series. :D[/QUOTE]


1984 series. Detroit vs San Diego (I didn't realize they were in first).

Hopefully Detroit takes the next 3 in this series....defense has be horrible the past two games, basically losing both of them (especially against Minnesota)
 
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