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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.
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Nathaniel Brooks for The New York Times

Governor Eliot Spitzer at a news conference in July 2007.

Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides inside his Fifth Avenue apartment early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He scheduled an announcement for 2:15 after inquiries from the Times.

Mr. Spitzer, a first-term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform and end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.

The governor’s travel records show that he was in Washington in mid-February. One of the clients described in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, the Emperors Club VIP on the night of Feb. 13.

Mr. Spitzer appeared on a CNBC television show at 7 a.m. the next morning. Later in the morning, he testified before a Congressional committee.

An affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan in connection with that case lists six conversations between the man, identified as Client 9, and a booking agent for the Emperors Club.

He had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Albany for months has been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.

From Gawker:
http://gawker.com/5003637/spitzer-linked-to-high+class-call-girls
Emperor's Club, which rented out prostitutes at rates of up to $5,500 per hour, was broken up last week by federal investigators; but administration officials would not disclose whether it was that particular agency that had identified Spitzer as a client. The ethos of Emperor's Club must have resonated with the notoriously perfectionist and hard-charging governor. The outfit's slogan: "for those accustomed to excellence."

I wouldn't want a dumbass who pays $5500 an hour for prostitutes running my state. That's just plain stupid.
 
I don't want him running my state either -- that's why I didn't vote for him. The man who made his entire career out of weeding out corruption and explicitly going after prostitution rings -- getting caught with his pants down. The irony is not lost on me...
 
I don't think prostitution is something that should be criminalized. If consenting adults exchange money for services that is up to them. That being said, it makes you looks like a hypocritcal dumbass to fight prostitution, yet be involved in it.

My biggest issue is that as a married man, his ass shouldn't be looking for sex from someone other than his wife whether he pays for it or not. It's an incredibly selfish and dangerous thing to put your spouse's health at risk by having sex on the side without his/her knowledge. People like that disgust me more than just about anyone else in society. When you are married, either stay true to that or have the deceny to tell your spouse you want out of the marriage.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I don't think prostitution is something that should be criminalized. If consenting adults exchange money for services that is up to them. That being said, it makes you looks like a hypocritcal dumbass to fight prostitution, yet be involved in it.

My biggest issue is that as a married man, his ass shouldn't be looking for sex from someone other than his wife whether he pays for it or not. It's an incredibly selfish and dangerous thing to put your spouse's health at risk by having sex on the side without his/her knowledge. People like that disgust me more than just about anyone else in society. When you are married, either stay true to that or have the deceny to tell your spouse you want out of the marriage.[/quote]

QFT on both counts.

But damn...I'd sell my body for $5,500 an hour.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I don't think prostitution is something that should be criminalized. If consenting adults exchange money for services that is up to them. That being said, it makes you looks like a hypocritcal dumbass to fight prostitution, yet be involved in it.

My biggest issue is that as a married man, his ass shouldn't be looking for sex from someone other than his wife whether he pays for it or not. It's an incredibly selfish and dangerous thing to put your spouse's health at risk by having sex on the side without his/her knowledge. People like that disgust me more than just about anyone else in society. When you are married, either stay true to that or have the deceny to tell your spouse you want out of the marriage.[/QUOTE]

I agree with your post 100%. The problem with this is he's a hypocrite and a fucktard.
 
Resignation is a foregone conclusion. A career (and life) implosion of this magnitude warrants a suicide watch.
 
[quote name='Tybee']Resignation is a foregone conclusion. A career (and life) implosion of this magnitude warrants a suicide watch.[/QUOTE]

He didn't resign, yet:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080310/ap_on_re_us/spitzer_prostitution_17

He just "apologized." Fark you, Eliot. Man up and resign, you douche.

I feel so bad for his wife standing next to him. Though she could well be smiling inside at the millions she'll get from a divorce settlement.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I don't think prostitution is something that should be criminalized. If consenting adults exchange money for services that is up to them. That being said, it makes you looks like a hypocritcal dumbass to fight prostitution, yet be involved in it.

My biggest issue is that as a married man, his ass shouldn't be looking for sex from someone other than his wife whether he pays for it or not. It's an incredibly selfish and dangerous thing to put your spouse's health at risk by having sex on the side without his/her knowledge. People like that disgust me more than just about anyone else in society. When you are married, either stay true to that or have the deceny to tell your spouse you want out of the marriage.[/QUOTE]
I hate saying it...but I agree with you too. I think prostitution's disgusting, but if people are willing to do it, legalize it, regulate it, and tax it like any other service. Spitzer's a scumbag for being a hypocrite in violating laws in which he tried to attack as AG and for cheating on his wife like that.
 
[quote name='t0llenz']I hate saying it...but I agree with you too. I think prostitution's disgusting, but if people are willing to do it, legalize it, regulate it, and tax it like any other service. Spitzer's a scumbag for being a hypocrite in violating laws in which he tried to attack as AG and for cheating on his wife like that.[/quote]


I agree as well. Putting people in jail for a natural act just because money is involved is crazy when there are more important crimes to worry about. I don't want cops out there looking for Johns and streetwalkers, I want them out there cleaning up streetgangs. I think the only reason it isn't legalized is because the government is afraid that doing so will make it easy for people to have huge tax-free incomes. If the govrnment thinks they are going to have a hard time getting their cut on something that has the potential to be more lucrative than anything else in the US, then they'll never legalize it. The goverment tries to argue the public health route, but that is BS because health issues are still prevalent with those out there getting ass for free.

DoK, I feel bad for his wife too. She must feel like Kobe Bryant's wife or Hilary Clinton. She should kick him to the curb IMO.
 
What's the difference between a prostitute and single adults? A man pays for dinner in hopes that he could fuck the woman. That's like paying for sex.
 
Best quote I've heard on the whole Spitzer (who is known as "Client No. 9" in police transcripts) affair:

"How great would it be if Client No. 10 was Bill Clinton?" -- Emily Yoffe on Slate



I would that it were so, but if past predilections are any indicator, I can't imagine Bill fronting more than $19.95 for his poontang.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']What's the difference between a prostitute and single adults? A man pays for dinner in hopes that he could fuck the woman. That's like paying for sex.[/quote]

Hopefully a guy goes on a date for more reasons that just hoping to have sex. Maybe to make a connection or because he genuinely likes the woman for various reasons. Not saying that sex doesn't enter into it, just that it typically isn't the only reason.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I don't think prostitution is something that should be criminalized. If consenting adults exchange money for services that is up to them. That being said, it makes you looks like a hypocritcal dumbass to fight prostitution, yet be involved in it.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, 100%.

[quote name='GuilewasNK']My biggest issue is that as a married man, his ass shouldn't be looking for sex from someone other than his wife whether he pays for it or not. It's an incredibly selfish and dangerous thing to put your spouse's health at risk by having sex on the side without his/her knowledge. People like that disgust me more than just about anyone else in society. When you are married, either stay true to that or have the deceny to tell your spouse you want out of the marriage.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, but less so. The first thing people should realize is that being single is akin to declaring yourself atheist as a politician: your ass is next to unelectable for all but the smallest offices. So I have no doubt that a large number of political "scandals" involving affairs happened in the context of a "don't ask, don't tell" marriage of convenience that served the interests of both parties. Yes, honesty would be great ... but until people start electing their leaders on their qualifications and merits rather than things like "he seems like I could have a beer with him" or "well, he's married, and I want a good family man running things," that's not feasible. And let's face it: people have worked out "understandings" in marriages since the dawn of time. Affairs are entirely between the two (well, three) people involved, in my opinion.
 
[quote name='HuppSav']Your kidding yourselves if you think your senator Hillary Clinton is any better my friends.[/quote]Hillary has paid $5,500 for sex with a hooker?

Hot damn, where's the video.:roll:
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Hillary has paid $5,500 for sex with a hooker?

Hot damn, where's the video.:roll:[/quote]
No, but she has done worse.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I wouldn't want a dumbass who pays $5500 an hour for prostitutes running my state. That's just plain stupid.[/quote]

Better then a guy who pays $5.50 an hour for a pro

ZING!
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I agree as well. Putting people in jail for a natural act just because money is involved is crazy when there are more important crimes to worry about. I don't want cops out there looking for Johns and streetwalkers, I want them out there cleaning up streetgangs. I think the only reason it isn't legalized is because the government is afraid that doing so will make it easy for people to have huge tax-free incomes. If the govrnment thinks they are going to have a hard time getting their cut on something that has the potential to be more lucrative than anything else in the US, then they'll never legalize it. The goverment tries to argue the public health route, but that is BS because health issues are still prevalent with those out there getting ass for free.

DoK, I feel bad for his wife too. She must feel like Kobe Bryant's wife or Hilary Clinton. She should kick him to the curb IMO.[/quote]

I don't give a crap about escort agencies that carry out their business in high class hotels under "controlled" circumstances... they can do what they want as far as I'm concerned... but all prostitution is not a good thing... would you like street whores walking your street? It brings seedy degenerates out of the woodwork and generally brings down the overall value of a neighborhood. No thanks!
 
[quote name='BigT']I don't give a crap about escort agencies that carry out their business in high class hotels under "controlled" circumstances... they can do what they want as far as I'm concerned... but all prostitution is not a good thing... would you like street whores walking your street? It brings seedy degenerates out of the woodwork and generally brings down the overall value of a neighborhood. No thanks![/quote]


I didn't say it shouldn't be regulated. I just don't think it should be illegal. Many legal things have regulations including guns, alcohol, and cigarettes. While it is legal for people over 21 to drink, it is illegal to be drunk in public. They can use the same logic in regards to street walkers. A certain distance from schools, churches, and family establishments would be appropriate.
 
[quote name='BigT']I don't give a crap about escort agencies that carry out their business in high class hotels under "controlled" circumstances... they can do what they want as far as I'm concerned... but all prostitution is not a good thing... would you like street whores walking your street? It brings seedy degenerates out of the woodwork and generally brings down the overall value of a neighborhood. No thanks![/QUOTE]

That's primarily because it's illegal. In the places where it's above board (Amsterdam, the non-Vegas parts of Nevada), they don't just stroll up and down the street -- it's basically like the escort agencies you're picturing, except well-regulated, safe, and clean.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Wait, I thought only Republicans do stuff like this?[/QUOTE]

No, no, it wasn't an undercover cop in a men's room or an underage male intern -- don't worry, the republicans still have their niche.
 
[quote name='BigT']I don't give a crap about escort agencies that carry out their business in high class hotels under "controlled" circumstances... they can do what they want as far as I'm concerned... but all prostitution is not a good thing... would you like street whores walking your street? It brings seedy degenerates out of the woodwork and generally brings down the overall value of a neighborhood. No thanks![/quote]

I agree! For example, I just told your mom to get off our corner last night. She's really dragging the property values down!
 
I wonder what drives a man like that to make such a stupid mistake like getting a prostitute. I'm curious about the psychology of it all.
 
I wonder that too. He had everything going for him when he got into office. He won a massive mandate, he was well liked across party lines in New York, he was relatively young, and well positioned to be a solid Presidential candidate by 2012 or a VP choice for 2008 for a candidate who wasn't Senator Clinton. Instead his entire first year or so in office was marred by threatening political opponents (the Steamroller comments), trying to tarnish the name of the State Senate Majority leader by having state police look into him/follow him, his terrible driver's license proposal, his failed attempts to deal with the budget, and the first major act in office...the replacement of the ridiculously corrupt comptroller, he failed to make any headway on getting a qualified new comptroller in office who was non-partisan and not beholden to the state legislature (the state legislature ignored the advice of a collection of 3 former State Comptrollers who gave them a top 3 list of names...and picked a State Assemblyman from Nassau County who's entire experience had been...being in the State Assembly). So far, Spitzer's been a failure as a Governor...and this just puts ends the reign of Spitzer and makes his rapid fall as incredible to see as his rapid rise to "stardom." It's too bad -- he was a Democratic candidate who I felt was a genuine reformer when he got into office...one who I felt more comfortable with than the other choices who could have ran for the office.
 
[quote name='t0llenz']I wonder that too. He had everything going for him when he got into office. He won a massive mandate, he was well liked across party lines in New York, he was relatively young, and well positioned to be a solid Presidential candidate by 2012 or a VP choice for 2008 for a candidate who wasn't Senator Clinton. Instead his entire first year or so in office was marred by threatening political opponents (the Steamroller comments), trying to tarnish the name of the State Senate Majority leader by having state police look into him/follow him, his terrible driver's license proposal, his failed attempts to deal with the budget, and the first major act in office...the replacement of the ridiculously corrupt comptroller, he failed to make any headway on getting a qualified new comptroller in office who was non-partisan and not beholden to the state legislature (the state legislature ignored the advice of a collection of 3 former State Comptrollers who gave them a top 3 list of names...and picked a State Assemblyman from Nassau County who's entire experience had been...being in the State Assembly). So far, Spitzer's been a failure as a Governor...and this just puts ends the reign of Spitzer and makes his rapid fall as incredible to see as his rapid rise to "stardom." It's too bad -- he was a Democratic candidate who I felt was a genuine reformer when he got into office...one who I felt more comfortable with than the other choices who could have ran for the office.[/QUOTE]

No kidding. It's like his tenure has been one misstep, screw up, and bad move after another. I really don't get it, but I'm borderline impressed with how much he's crapped his whole political career up. I'll bet Bruno screws up next -- he'll feel complacent in his dirty deeds since Spitz' will be gone and BOOM. The story about the half dozen Malay boys he keeps in his basement as sex slaves will come out.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Wait, I thought only Republicans do stuff like this?[/QUOTE]

Yeah Vanilla, funny how all these 18-year-olds who have only ever known Republicans in power in Congress think, eh? Oh, and Bill Clinton is completely different :roll:
 
I dislike Bruno more than most any conservative leaning person in New York -- and he's been taking the high road so far. Oddly enough, not jumping all over Spitzer. I think he's may have something on David Paterson (there were rumors about Paterson involving a corruption probe, but I'm not sure about that) that he's waiting to bust out to force his resignation to. If that happens...Governor Bruno here we come...
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I don't think prostitution is something that should be criminalized. If consenting adults exchange money for services that is up to them. That being said, it makes you looks like a hypocritcal dumbass to fight prostitution, yet be involved in it.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much what this all boils down to.
 
[quote name='t0llenz']The man who made his entire career out of weeding out corruption and explicitly going after prostitution rings -- getting caught with his pants down.[/quote]

lulz at teh pun
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Yeah Vanilla, funny how all these 18-year-olds who have only ever known Republicans in power in Congress think, eh? Oh, and Bill Clinton is completely different :roll:[/QUOTE]

Don't worry there are plenty of "gotcha" conservatives like yourself to remind them.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Wait, I thought only Republicans do stuff like this?[/quote]

Hey, this is a rare opportunity for trans-party unity. Everyone united in pursuit of extramarital sex!:applause:
 
[quote name='gobz']Frankly I was expecting someone more attractive

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/13/spitzer.kristen/index.html

Not saying she is ugly but for that kind of money I expected a lot more[/quote]
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So, you're saying that's not good enough for you?
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']So, you're saying that's not good enough for you?[/quote]

Oh she looks good in that pic no doubt. And the body is smokin.

But without the sunglasses she has squinty eyes and a big ol honker.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Wait, I thought only Republicans do stuff like this?[/quote]
No, they just do it with other guys.
 
Nice one JJ, she is really really really hot.

If I had as much dough as Spitzer, (and if a whole myriad of other hypotheticals were true) I'd pay 5k to nail her. But not one penny more!
Not saying she is ugly but for that kind of money I expected a lot more
Spoken like a true cheapass.
 
That whole music BS is so typical of myspace. Myspace is so full of bull shit hopes and dreams that it could supply the make a wish foundation forever. Music career, right. I'm sure she can hit the high notes though.
 
[quote name='camoor']Oh she looks good in that pic no doubt. And the body is smokin.

But without the sunglasses she has squinty eyes and a big ol honker.[/QUOTE]

Nothing a flip of the light switch couldn't fix.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']That whole music BS is so typical of myspace. Myspace is so full of bull shit hopes and dreams that it could supply the make a wish foundation forever. Music career, right. I'm sure she can hit the high notes though.[/quote]

She sold her track for a buck apiece the other day. There's speculation that she made a bundle of cash. Sure it's a quick payday but cash is cash.
 
[quote name='camoor']She sold her track for a buck apiece the other day. There's speculation that she made a bundle of cash. Sure it's a quick payday but cash is cash.[/quote]

Wouldn't it had been smarter to buy her music for $5K and simply had a one night fling with her?
 
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