LOST - The Final Season - LOST Auction Aug 21-22 (Post 1439)

[quote name='SIUfan']EPIC! OMG EPIC! Best show ever! And yes I'm a fanboy, bring it on I don't care, but that was epic![/QUOTE]

+1. Can't think of a better way for them to end the show.
 
[quote name='SeanAmI']Which is why Ben was not in the Church.[/QUOTE]

I really don't think so. If the Church was just for people who were "good" and not in the church for people who were "bad" than Faraday and Miles (who were both in the finale) would have been inside. They weren't. There's no dividing line between good and evil for who gets to go in, it's just whether you're ready to move on.

It was pretty clear to me that Ben was redeemed in the end.
 
[quote name='Greetard']I took it as this:

The entire flash-sideways subplot was a form of purgatory. Richard, Lapidus, Miles, Sawyer, Kate, and Claire flew off the island and lived out their lives. Hurley and Ben stayed back and took care of things for the rest of their own. Desmond was sent back to Penny via some unexplained method that Hurley and Ben must have discovered, and eventually the two passed away together as well.

The purgatory was created for the entire group once the last Oceanic member died in the original timeline, with Christian as their guardian angel or "shepherd" (har har). In order to gain access to heaven, they all had to rediscover their former selves in the context of their false lives in the flash-sideways...like a final trial or rebirth.
[/QUOTE]
This. Desmond still had the boat he originally got to the island in, remember? It was never destroyed.

Im just glad people understand it all now & not weeks from now after Sopranos.

I think Michael, Walt, Ana-Lucia, Eko, Charlotte etc weren't there just because they weren't all that important. Yes, less important people were there (Penny, Libby) because they were lovers of people that were there. And who knows, maybe Hurley, as the new guardian, chose who he talked to (libby)
 
[quote name='SeanAmI']Which is why Ben was not in the Church.[/QUOTE]

I know, but he is still there. Maybe they are implying that he did a lot of good while being Hurley's 2nd but for fucks sake the guy killed an entire island worth of people.

But he was way to important to the story to not have at the end of the show so I understand.

I think I completely get it now and I am still uncertain about it. It was good but not great.
 
[quote name='DOMINATOR912']I sort of get it after readying some of these posts, but I still kinda don't. If it was supposed to have everyone who died move on together, they were still missing a good amount of people (Mr. Eko, Ana Lucia, Alex, Roussou, etc.).[/QUOTE]

Most of those people were outsiders. People that probably already "went on" long ago. I think the point was those that "survived" (sans Penny, Libby, Shannon, etc.) were only there to be the "comfort" the people who were moving on needed. There were the core group, and essentially those whose presence didn't make sense (Penny, Shannon, Libby, etc.) were only considered loved ones waiting to usher their significant other in through the pearly gates. A common belief in Christianity, that your loved ones are waiting for you to lead you into heaven.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Most of those people were outsiders. People that probably already "went on" long ago. I think the point was those that "survived" (sans Penny, Libby, Shannon, etc.) were only there to be the "comfort" the people who were moving on needed. There were the core group, and essentially those whose presence didn't make sense (Penny, Shannon, Libby, etc.) were only considered loved ones waiting to usher their significant other in through the pearly gates. A common belief in Christianity, that your loved ones are waiting for you to lead you into heaven.[/QUOTE]
Ya thats what I was trying to say in my post. Thanks
 
I think probably the best thing I can compare it to was the ending of Titanic. Everyone was basically in purgatory waiting for Kate Winslet to die of old age before they could move on together.
 
eh...episode was great until the ending, seeing everybody remember had me hope that the sideways story would become the current story figuring the bomb actually did change things, but i guess not

bring on 24
 
[quote name='SeanAmI']Everyone died at different times, Christian even says so at the end. People need to listen.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. They all died seperately but after dying they reunited because their time on the island together was the happiest times of their lives. Obviously anyone that wasn't at the church didn't feel the island was the best part of their lives. Good times, and I enjoyed the ride. Really, that's what it was all about. It wasn't the mysteries, the sci-fi elements, or anything else; it was about the characters.
 
There were so many manly tears moments. The last shot of Jack in the bamboo with Vincent was absolutely brilliant. Shit, pretty much everything up to the last 10 minutes was fantastic. Even the afterlife scene was great, even though I thought it was kind of a cop out. Like how the fuck can Desmond magically travel to it? It would have made more sense if the hydrogen bomb had simply created an alternate time line where the plane didn't crash or something.

But, other than that, I thought it was fucking perfect. I was very satisfied with the characters.
 
[quote name='evanft']There were so many manly tears moments. The last shot of Jack in the bamboo with Vincent was absolutely brilliant. Shit, pretty much everything up to the last 10 minutes was fantastic. Even the afterlife scene was great, even though I thought it was kind of a cop out. Like how the fuck can Desmond magically travel to it? It would have made more sense if the hydrogen bomb had simply created an alternate time line where the plane didn't crash or something.

But, other than that, I thought it was fucking perfect. I was very satisfied with the characters.[/QUOTE]

One of the best (and emotional moments) of the finale was Sawyer and Juliet's reunion. That along with Jack and Kate professing their love for each other were enough for me. Call me a big softie if you'd like but damn were those great.
 
You know, I wish the flash sideways showed more of their time off the island. Like showing them living a happy life, that way you could have some insight on their lives.

Also, I am really pissed that Kate didnt die. That bitch was horrid since the 3rd season.
 
[quote name='Jedi1979']eh...episode was great until the ending, seeing everybody remember had me hope that the sideways story would become the current story figuring the bomb actually did change things, but i guess not

bring on 24[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the bomb was just supposed to be what Miles said it would, the event that starts everything.
 
[quote name='evanft']It would have made more sense if the hydrogen bomb had simply created an alternate time line where the plane didn't crash or something.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but that wouldn't have been as easily resolved, nor could they have tied it as conveniently back into the narrative of the show overall.

One thing this proves is that the hydrogen bomb definitely did not work (as intended anyway). All it did was send them back to the present (somehow). The beginning of the purgatory storyline was, in reality, unrelated to the hydrogen bomb. They only coincided in order to throw us off from what was really going on with those. That's pretty clever sleight of hand.
 
[quote name='Segasonic01']wait am i the only one thats kinda disappointed sayid ended up with shannon & not nadia?[/QUOTE]

Nope. One of my friends was so angry when she even came back, the moment the commercial hit he was yelling at the TV.
 
[quote name='billyrox']so the island was real, and everyone who left the island survived... but sideways world was actually purgeatory[/QUOTE]

Yep, that seems to be it. They were lost in real life, and found each other and purpose together on the island. And in death, they were also lost until they found each other, and together crossed over.

And Tony Soprano was shot in the restaurant.
 
Hey everyone what channel will the alternate ending be on ?? beacuse only thing on ABC for me is two and half men then some show called Boston legal ??
 
[quote name='Segasonic01']wait am i the only one thats kinda disappointed sayid ended up with shannon & not nadia?[/QUOTE]

Now that you mention it, no. He was in love with Shannon for a hot second, whereas he loved Nadia for years both before and after the initial crash. Good point.
 
Wow you know you are a good actor when even in a interview I feel that you will stand up and kill someone at anytime. Both Ben and John are insane.
 
You know who I feel bad for? Jack and Juliet's purga-son. Poor kid was just a figment of dead imaginations, haha.

And while Juliet being his mom was cool (and was not too hard to predict), I am kind of sad it denied us the chance of seeing Julie Bowen on Lost again.
 
Here's my interpretation of what happened: The alternate timeline is purgatory, and the church is the group who are moving on to heaven. Some might ask: why isn't [insert character name here] in the church? Either because they weren't ready to move on, or they had already redeemed themselves (like Michael when he blew up the freighter).

Anyway, I absolutely loved the ending couple seconds. Just the idea of ending it the same way you began six years ago is amazing to me. It was so emotional (only the last two seconds) I nearly shed a tear. Everything about this last episode was so great, and sometime this summer (while I'm off school) I'm going to rewatch all six seasons. I can tell this will be a show that will be remembered for years.)
 
[quote name='bvharris']Now that you mention it, no. He was in love with Shannon for a hot second, whereas he loved Nadia for years both before and after the initial crash. Good point.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but he was still trapped in his own purgatory, until seeing her made him remember his time on the island which ultimately pulled him to the other side.
 
[quote name='PlatinumIce']H
Anyway, I absolutely loved the ending couple seconds. Just the idea of ending it the same way you began six years ago is amazing to me. It was so emotional (only the last two seconds) I nearly shed a tear. Everything about this last episode was so great, and sometime this summer (while I'm off school) I'm going to rewatch all six seasons. I can tell this will be a show that will be remembered for years.)[/QUOTE]

Dude, you must be made of stone if you nearly shed a tear. I cried like 5 times.
 
[quote name='bvharris']You know who I feel bad for? Jack and Juliet's purga-son. Poor kid was just a figment of dead imaginations, haha.

[/QUOTE]

What about Aaron? He has to go heaven as a baby.
 
[quote name='bsesb2003']Yes, but he was still trapped in his own purgatory, until seeing her made him remember his time on the island which ultimately pulled him to the other side.[/QUOTE]
still... he had married nadia & everything
 
[quote name='bsesb2003']Yes, but he was still trapped in his own purgatory, until seeing her made him remember his time on the island which ultimately pulled him to the other side.[/QUOTE]

But still, the implication is that Shannon is his "true love" and that they would cross over together. I don't think it's realistic to say that Shannon meant more to him than Nadia did. The pain of losing Nadia was just as great for him as the pain of losing Shannon, probably moreso. And presumably his time with Nadia after leaving the island was part of his "Awakening" as well.

I understand it ties things off nicely with a bow, but for me it's the one readily apparent flaw in an otherwise fantastic finale.
 
[quote name='bsesb2003']Yes, but he was still trapped in his own purgatory, until seeing her made him remember his time on the island which ultimately pulled him to the other side.[/QUOTE]

Also, maybe subconsciously he probably realized Shannon was dead. That he was trying to move on (so to speak) and was settling on the next best thing. But I do agree that it's a bit of a flaw, since the one woman's cat was named Nadya and definitely effected him upon realizing that. I think it was just the creators finding a reason to get Shannon and Boone on the show after realizing they were maybe killed off way too early. I recall people were PISSED when Shannon got killed off. It seemed to be the moment that pushed the show from underground hit to legendary status.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Dude, you must be made of stone if you nearly shed a tear. I cried like 5 times.[/QUOTE]


I dunno, I smiled and was touched, but didn't really come close to crying except for the Charlie/Claire moment with the baby.


Only episodes of Lost where I get emotional are the Desmond-centric ones
 
[quote name='yankeessuck']What about Aaron? He has to go heaven as a baby.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure real Aaron has a very happy life with his mom and Aunt Kate after they returned from the island. Maybe once he gets to heaven he'll be all grown up again. :D
 
[quote name='bvharris']I'm sure real Aaron has a very happy life with his mom and Aunt Kate after they returned from the island. Maybe once he gets to heaven he'll be all grown up again. :D[/QUOTE]
Yep. Same with Des' kid
 
[quote name='PlatinumIce']Either because they weren't ready to move on, or they had already redeemed themselves (like Michael when he blew up the freighter).
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but hadn't Ben redeemed himself quite a few times?

I hope this Kimmell special makes it onto the last box set as a special feature.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']I think it was just the creators finding a reason to get Shannon and Boone on the show after realizing they were maybe killed off way too early. I recall people were PISSED when Shannon got killed off. It seemed to be the moment that pushed the show from underground hit to legendary status.[/QUOTE]

WHO??? :lol:

Shannon and Boone were terrible. Not Nikki and Paolo bad, but still mostly useless and annoying (Shannon moreso than Boone).
 
[quote name='bvharris']But still, the implication is that Shannon is his "true love" and that they would cross over together. I don't think it's realistic to say that Shannon meant more to him than Nadia did. The pain of losing Nadia was just as great for him as the pain of losing Shannon, probably moreso. And presumably his time with Nadia after leaving the island was part of his "Awakening" as well.

I understand it ties things off nicely with a bow, but for me it's the one readily apparent flaw in an otherwise fantastic finale.[/QUOTE]

You will recall that Christian talked about the group. They are going together. Some were ready, some not, some maybe not dead, but there is no time. My guess is that he's more proud of his time on the island than his prior life as a murderer, assassin, and torturer so that is what pulled him to move on.

Plus, he's a central character of the show, it is a show, after all.
 
Just rewatched the last 20 minutes while waiting for Kimmel to start here.

The interpretations posted earlier seems spot on. The island stuff really happened, the flash sideways is just a purgatory the main characters created so they could all meet up and move on together when they were all ready. As Jack's dad said, some died before he did (Shannon etc.) and some died way after (the ones on the plane--and especially Hurley and Ben who guarded the island for who knows how long).

Ending is better watching it again. Still a bit frustrating that none of the island mysteries etc. get any explanation, but really like the ending for the characters.
 
[quote name='yankeessuck']What about Aaron? He has to go heaven as a baby.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but he doesn't have to worry about the rules of no fucking and no swearing.
 
[quote name='bvharris']WHO??? :lol:

Shannon and Boone were terrible. Not Nikki and Paolo bad, but still mostly useless and annoying (Shannon moreso than Boone).[/QUOTE]

Well, they turned Shannon into a character everybody hated to a character people thought was going to serve a purpose. I definitely remember when people were spoiling the shit out of the episode where she died (kinda like I'm doing now for Lost newbies), and the people suffering the spoiling were livid as fuck about it. For me though, it was Alex's death that stung more. At least Keamey is in the church across the street waiting to go to hell. Mwahaha!
 
I just checked on Amazon. The Complete Series will be available on Blu-ray August 24th for $200. I might get it for $100 but $200 is too much.
 
If it's coming out in August and the commercial just showed final box art, I expect this awesome Kimmell wrapup won't make it on the disc.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
bread's done
Back
Top