Lunar: Dragon Song (DS) $10 at Amazon

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I was at Sears today and saw Lunar: Dragon Song for $15. I had liked the Lunar series before, but decided to check the reviews on Amazon first, which were not that good. However, Amazon had the prices listed as $10 so I decided to pick it up.

Also, at Sears I got Big Mutha Truckers (DS) $9.99, Gunpey (DS) $9.99, and Blades of Thunder II (DS) $8.47. There was a whole stack of the Big Mutha Truckers out in the main isle marked at $14.99, but I found one in the back corner marked at $9.99. Luckily, the shoppers this weekend hadn't found this little cubby hole, as the regular cleance bin was really picked clean and a mess compared to when I looked through it before black friday. In fact, some of the games in the clearance bin had been cut open and the games stolen. It seems everyone just goes crazy this weekend. I'm glad I didn't go out, but still got a lot of great deals online.

Anyways, back to the Big Mutha Truckers. I noticed the one marked at a higher price had a different UPC but it was just a sticker covering the original. So it may be possible if you remove this sticker it may ring up at $10, but I don't know if this is legal. The UPC of the one I got that rang up at $9.99 is 8-02069-10042-1 if that helps anyone. The other one started with a 9, I think.
 
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This game is TREMENDOUSLY horrible (Dragon Song that is, I'm sure Big Mutha Truckers is as well though). Seriously, the design is so bad, here's how it works:

You have two settings, fight random battles for money or fight random battles for experience, you can't get both at the same time and this makes it really hard to advance in the game. Also, if you run...you lose health...so you spend most of the time walking slowly everywhere.

Read the reviews, avoid this stupidly annoying game.
 
[quote name='Cmosfm']This game is TREMENDOUSLY horrible (Dragon Song that is, I'm sure Big Mutha Truckers is as well though). Seriously, the design is so bad, here's how it works:

You have two settings, fight random battles for money or fight random battles for experience, you can't get both at the same time and this makes it really hard to advance in the game. Also, if you run...you lose health...so you spend most of the time walking slowly everywhere.

Read the reviews, avoid this stupidly annoying game.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I read a ton of negative things about the game and it was just poor decisions. Whichever developer decided that you lose health for running is a moron. It's sad too because I was looking forward to the game for a long time before it came out.
 
Wow OP, I really feel bad for you! You spent $40, and came out with 3 piles of shit and Gunpey, which is just barely better than a pile of shit.

Lunar sucks balls, Mutha Truckers simply cannot be any good, and Blades of Thunder II......LOL.

Dude, read some reviews before you buy a bunch of crappy games; discounted prices don't magically turn garbage to gold.

Anyway, thanks for trying though.
 
the game (and also lunar legend for gba) are such a disappointment to the series.

*sigh* if only working designs were still around! :(
 
[quote name='hopeunknown']the game (and also lunar legend for gba) are such a disappointment to the series.

*sigh* if only working designs were still around! :([/QUOTE]

Lunar Legend was at least 10 times better than Lunar DS, I didn't have the patience for the DS version but I enjoyed Legend.
 
[quote name='Cmosfm']Lunar Legend was at least 10 times better than Lunar DS, I didn't have the patience for the DS version but I enjoyed Legend.[/quote]

agreed. i enjoyed Legend for the most part.
 
wow that sux, everyone's bagging on the op for picking up these games :p but yea, first thing i did when i saw that $10 price was open up another browser window and head over to gamespot for a look at the reviews.. they gave dragon song a 6.1 which is a D- so i'm staying away from that one!

btw losing health for running is really one of the stupidest things i've heard of :D maybe have a stamina system like in diablo 2 or something...
 
[quote name='the ender']Wow OP, I really feel bad for you! You spent $40, and came out with 3 piles of shit and Gunpey, which is just barely better than a pile of shit.

Lunar sucks balls, Mutha Truckers simply cannot be any good, and Blades of Thunder II......LOL.

Dude, read some reviews before you buy a bunch of crappy games; discounted prices don't magically turn garbage to gold.

Anyway, thanks for trying though.[/quote]

It did when I bought Hydlide. \\:D/
 
I love Lunar Dragon Song. I never played more than an hour or two of it, because it's a horrible game, mind you, but it's the reason I bought my DS in the first place--anticipation of that God-forsaken game. Poor Lunar, this was your last shot.
 
I couldn't wait for Dragon Song to come out....and then it was terrible.
And that's awful. The developers said "Oh, if those does well we are thinking of making a prequel with the four heroes."
fuck.
 
Taking damage for running? Wow, can we list that one under "stupidest design decision to artificially extend a game's hours"? Too bad, I was hoping it would be like a side-game or semi-compilation to the main Lunar games, but now I see why it got the scores that it did. Too bad, $10 would've been a great price for it.

Wonder if someone made a hack for the ROM so that you don't take damage from running and recieve both money and experience from battles...
 
Ten bucks is what I paid for the game. I played thru and beat it last summer. Personally, I think the game is "okay". Not awful. There are many worse RPGs out there than Lunar DS. The running-taking-damage thing isn't so bad since there are heal shrines all over the place. The game has its flaws, but I think its worth $10. I believe it wouldn't be hated on as much if it wasn't a Lunar game.
 
[quote name='Cmosfm']This game is TREMENDOUSLY horrible (Dragon Song that is, I'm sure Big Mutha Truckers is as well though). Seriously, the design is so bad, here's how it works:

You have two settings, fight random battles for money or fight random battles for experience, you can't get both at the same time and this makes it really hard to advance in the game. Also, if you run...you lose health...so you spend most of the time walking slowly everywhere.

Read the reviews, avoid this stupidly annoying game.[/QUOTE]

Having to choose between money and experience has to be the among the stupidest design decisions I've ever heard of for an RPG :whistle2:/

[quote name='FlipSide']Even if you loved the Lunar series or RPGs, you will hate Dragon Song. Avoid at all cost.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='kilp']...and head over to gamespot for a look at the reviews.. they gave dragon song a 6.1 which is a D- ...[/QUOTE]

Actually no, it's their Fair rating, as in the game is decent but nothing special.

I'm really torn on this. I have a HUGE soft spot for the original Lunar. It was just magical back in the day. I really didn't like the remakes nearly as well. They had way more random battling, less interesting battles, and worse music (although the expanded story in the original was actually still strong). I wish I could get a more exact remake or port of the ORIGINAL :(

But this...I mean this was my most anticipated DS game back in the day, and then it's supposed to be so awful. But for $10...I don't know what to do.

Oh, and plus I *LOVED* Working Designs translations, especially of the original. And this seems to do everything wrong-bad RPG "system", apparently bad translation/story, no optical media for cinematics, etc. :(
 
Yes, this game sucks, but it's not as bad as everyone says it is. A lot of the issues with the game disappear as you go on; after a while, you won't need to fight for money, you'll have enough after doing errands, and the HP drain when you run becomes a non-issue because it deducts only a point of HP per amount of time, and it's NOT a percentage of your HP. So once you gain levels, you'll have enough HP that it doesn't matter.

Even so, once these problems disappear, it is nothing more than a mediocre RPG instead of a horrendous one.
 
$10 is way too much for this game. I pre-ordered it for $35 (a new Lunar game? Not a remake?!) and tried to find some value in it... but dear god, it's terrible. I often like games other people don't, and if a game does one thing decently, often thats enough for me. But this game gets everything wrong.

[quote name='hopeunknown']the game (and also lunar legend for gba) are such a disappointment to the series.[/QUOTE]
Lunar Legend was ok, it was a remake so they couldn't screw it up too much. Not nearly as good as the original, and easy as hell, but it's decent.

Maybe it's time to fire up the SegaCD...
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']

Actually no, it's their Fair rating, as in the game is decent but nothing special.

I'm really torn on this. I have a HUGE soft spot for the original Lunar. It was just magical back in the day. I really didn't like the remakes nearly as well. They had way more random battling, less interesting battles, and worse music (although the expanded story in the original was actually still strong). I wish I could get a more exact remake or port of the ORIGINAL :(

But this...I mean this was my most anticipated DS game back in the day, and then it's supposed to be so awful. But for $10...I don't know what to do.

Oh, and plus I *LOVED* Working Designs translations, especially of the original. And this seems to do everything wrong-bad RPG "system", apparently bad translation/story, no optical media for cinematics, etc. :([/QUOTE]



well this sounds like a major emotional event for you. though I'm not sure logic will work, consider this: you lose hp when you run.
 
Here's a vid I pulled off youtube. This should give you an idea how the game plays, including combat. Nothing like the classic Lunar games. Notice how the HPs go down when you run.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY8EfvNaMpA[/media]
 
It pisses me off that only ONE character is actually strong enough to HURT anyone. The rest are paper warriors.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']

Even so, once these problems disappear, it is nothing more than a mediocre RPG instead of a horrendous one.[/QUOTE]

They need to use that quote on the back of the box with your picture doing a thumbs up. "Once you get into it, it's really not horrendous, just mediocre!" :lol:

Thanks for the explanation about it :) I hate when companies trade on a beloved name with a mediocre game :( I mean would half of us be posting here if it were just some generic RPG?

Thanks to guys too Apossum and Krymner!

I don't like how they display the damage and stuff split across two screens-what were they thinking? And that battle looked like it took way longer than the battles I'm doing in Blue Dragon against like 8 enemies at once (of course two of my characters are monks with charged attacks in that that can attack the whole group, but still).
 
I bought Lunar: Dragon Song, Lost Magic, Gunpey DS, and Super Robot Taisen 2 for about $40 at KB Toys a few weeks ago.

Gunpey DS is very simplistic in design. It's one of those crazy Japanese puzzle games with strange musician animals. The touch screen detection is awful, meaning that you'll repeatedly tap options until you get them highlighted. The gameplay is fun, but it's also very simple. This game would be passable if it had more substance.
 
Gunpey was a fun game for about 1 day. It doesn't have NEAR the legs of Meteos. Meteos would have longer legs even if it didn't have a gazillion 'planets'.
 
WOW i was really thinkin about gettin those 2 lunar games!!! just cuz i loved the originals , just havnt gotten around to pickin those up , thanxs for the review guys:applause:
 
dang, i thought i was gonna get it but i didnt know it was THAT terrible. i will avoid it now. thanks for the warning guys
 
Heres another vote for this game is a piece of crap. The game is not worth even $10 hell it's not even worth $5. It will only cause endless frustration and boredom. Do yourself a favor and DONT BUY IT! If you can't tell I wasted my money and bought it when it first came out at full price...
 
[quote name='Cmosfm']Lunar Legend was at least 10 times better than Lunar DS, I didn't have the patience for the DS version but I enjoyed Legend.[/quote]

true, but legend annoyed me because all of a sudden nash is in burg right at the beginning...wtf?

i also don't see why the same game had to be remade three times. the saturn/psx remakes were definitely worth it, but really...the gba remake didn't need to happen (plus WD had nothing to do with it. I still think the most amusing parts in Lunar [especially Sega CD] were the Bill Clinton jokes and the like. I think Phoenix Wright is the only similar game where the translators have fun with it like WD did with their games)
 
i loved the game but then got lost someplace in the game and stopped playing it.

For its time it was an okay game BUT what is out now this game is really bad

At least its better then deep Lab..
 
[quote name='hopeunknown']true, but legend annoyed me because all of a sudden nash is in burg right at the beginning...wtf?

i also don't see why the same game had to be remade three times. the saturn/psx remakes were definitely worth it, but really...the gba remake didn't need to happen (plus WD had nothing to do with it. I still think the most amusing parts in Lunar [especially Sega CD] were the Bill Clinton jokes and the like. I think Phoenix Wright is the only similar game where the translators have fun with it like WD did with their games)[/QUOTE]

Wait... so they actually changed the setting from the original? What the hell?
 
One more shitty Lunar DS fact:

You cant pick which enemy to target in combat.

Up against a powerful wizard and a pair of butterflies? Your characters are just as likely to target the butterflies.
 
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