Madden 11 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-That's all folks! Mini-tourney still coming tho!

Got'em to turn it back on, not sure how much longer it'll be on though. Long story, lol.

We should be good to go tonight bv. If anything changes I will let you know.
 
[quote name='HydroX']Got'em to turn it back on, not sure how much longer it'll be on though. Long story, lol.

We should be good to go tonight bv. If anything changes I will let you know.[/QUOTE]

K, I'll be on at 11 EST as discussed.
 
[quote name='Appleinthetree']Scotts when can you play when we advance? I'm free tonight.[/QUOTE]

I'll be home around midnight est tonight if you want to stay up
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Wednesday-Thursday night 6-9 est may work, but something may come up on wednesday.[/QUOTE]

I can play pretty much any time at or after 8 EST on either night, so just let me know when you know.
 
So...when playing against the CPU, are we allowed to restart the game if we (or the other team) sustains any significant injuries?? I'm about to play the CPU Browns and I'm not sure if I should restart it if by some chance one of his players gets a serious injury. I'm not too concerned about my own players...I would just go along with it if I get a serious injury, unless maybe it's at a position that's already plagued with injuries like at SS. Should I just use my own discretion??
 
Chargers 28, Colts 24

Just played a pretty good game against bvharris, but I had a few quips....

While I enjoyed playing against bvharris and I don't mean this as a personal attack on him, but wasn't there talk about it being a no-no running a spread offense all game long? I was constantly staring at 4-5 WR sets (4 WR, 1 TE being Gates) starting on the game's opening possession and the majority constantly running in/crossing routes so the defenders "pick" each other off [as if the AI isn't dumb enough in this game] is just unacceptable.

Also there was a questionable 4th and 2 on the Colts 39 or so, in the 3rd quarter where the Chargers went for it ... you guessed it, 4 WR/1 TE with crossing routes.

I can see running the spread offense garbage in online ranked games, because I expect it there (which is why I don't play them) ... but I didn't expect to see it in this league, especially against bvharris, and especially not from start to finish.
 
Chargers 28, Colts 24

Wow, I'm still shaking. That was one of the best games I've played all year, tons of fun and very competitive from start to finish. Just two great teams slugging at each other all game, nary a punt to be found.

The Chargers received to start the game and were driving down the field when Rivers was introduced to the Colts edge rushers. Mathis got a strip sack on a busted play action and Freeney scooped it up to gallop it 67 yards to the house. The Chargers got the ball back and marched down the field once more, culminating in a Rivers TD pass to Gates. The Colts responded quickly, moving down the field and closing the drive with a 46 yard pass to Collie where Manning seemed to be running all over the backfield (no comment :D). The Chargers responded very quickly, when Rivers found an uncovered Jackson down the right sideline for a 71 yard score. The Colts drove down the field and kicked a FG in the waning seconds of the half to go into the locker room 17-14.

The teams resumed trading TDs in the 3rd, when Manning found his favorite target Dallas Clark to put the Colts up 24-14, the largest lead either team would enjoy on the day. The Chargers responded (as they do) by driving down the field and Rivers throwing a 15 yard strike to Floyd in the corner of the endzone. The momentum changer came on the Colts' next drive as they were approaching the goal line again when Vasher stripped the ball from Dallas Clark at the 5. Antoine Cason recovered to give the Chargers possession (Apparently it was such a big play that Madden decided to credit him with 2 fumble recoveries). The Chargers then drove the ball as they had all game, though working in a bit more Matthews to work the clock. They drove 93 yards and Matthews finally punched it in with 1:35 left. The Colts got the ball back with 1 timeout at their 15 and picked up a couple first downs but ultimately time ran out (a huge sack by Jacques Cesaire helped as well) as the long hail mary was broken up by the Chargers D on 4th-and-5 from the Indy 36.

Phillip Rivers put up a perfect QB rating (not his first of the year), going 19 of 23 for 344 yards and 3 scores. Jackson was the receiving star as he tallied 7 grabs for 179 yards and a score. Gates caught 4 balls for 73 and a score. Matthews had some big rushes towards the end of the game, finishing with 9 carries for 51 yards and a score.

Manning was almost as good as Rivers, completing 17 of 23 for 287 yards and 2 scores. Addai was strong with limited carries, rushing 7 times for 49 yards. Dallas Clark was the leading receiver with 6 catches for 71 yards and a score.

My focus in this game was two-fold: Controlling Clark and controlling the Colts' return game, which has been very strong this season. Clark was double-covered most of the game, and given the stats he's put up this season I was pretty pleased overall with how I played him. Moore returned the ball every time, which is obviously nerve-wracking, but he was pretty well bottled up all game as my coverage unit held strong. I think his longest return was to the 30, whereas he had several stopped at the 15.

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gg Hydro, you're a great opponent, and that game was a lot of fun! Could have gone either way for sure.
 
Thanks for the write up, I was going to do one but I knew you would. I agree, it was one of the most competitive games I've played in Madden. I was trying to play so conservative since I knew you were trying to shut down Clark -- so I just decided not to throw to him as much. lol

Also, my return game SUCKED because of my controller. I'm sure you noticed the two times where my KR stopped and backed up... I was holding left the entire time while he started to cut left, then he just stopped in his tracks and took a few steps backwards and got smothered. Argh, so frustrating. lol

To be flat honest I knew I wasn't going to win, but to be able to hang with you the way I did, I think I brought some confidence back into my game.

Either way though, damn good game, a tip of the hat and props to you on the win, good sir. :)
 
Ummm...of all freaking players to get carted off the field this game, it had to be Jon Beason!!! Up 21-0 right now...waiting for an answer to my previous question :'(
 
Just saw your quips. The spread offense is what I run. And you know what, the Chargers run it a lot too. I'm playing as them.

For the record, my back carried it more times than yours did, so I don't want to hear any complaints about me passing every down.

As for the 4th down, there was nothing questionable about it. It was on your 32, not your 39 for one thing. I was having kicking lag all game long (which you wouldn't have noticed obviously since I didn't have to kick any FGs) and down by 10 points in the 3rd quarter and had been unable to stop you scoring all game. Absolutely no question I'm going for it there, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. And since the difference between a TD and a FG there is 4 points, the final margin of the game, it was absolutely the right call.

I'll say this to you man: Just play your game. You don't hear me complaining about the return man taking it out every time from deep in his endzone or the Manning touchdown to Collie where he ran about 20 yards back and to the side before throwing (certainly a Manning exploit if there ever was one). Don't suggest I'm trying to game the system, I don't appreciate it one bit.

Just call it a good game, which is what it was.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']So...when playing against the CPU, are we allowed to restart the game if we (or the other team) sustains any significant injuries?? I'm about to play the CPU Browns and I'm not sure if I should restart it if by some chance one of his players gets a serious injury. I'm not too concerned about my own players...I would just go along with it if I get a serious injury, unless maybe it's at a position that's already plagued with injuries like at SS. Should I just use my own discretion??[/QUOTE]

Um, yeah, I suppose that's a legit reason to restart. But you can't stop all injuries, so maybe if it's not serious you can just move on.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Just saw your quips. The spread offense is what I run. And you know what, the Chargers run it a lot too. I'm playing as them.

For the record, my back carried it more times than yours did, so I don't want to hear any complaints about me passing every down.

As for the 4th down, there was nothing questionable about it. It was on your 32, not your 39 for one thing. I was having kicking lag all game long (which you wouldn't have noticed obviously since I didn't have to kick any FGs) and down by 10 points in the 3rd quarter and had been unable to stop you scoring all game. Absolutely no question I'm going for it there, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. And since the difference between a TD and a FG there is 4 points, the final margin of the game, it was absolutely the right call.

I'll say this to you man: Just play your game. You don't hear me complaining about the return man taking it out every time from deep in his endzone or the Manning touchdown to Collie where he ran about 20 yards back and to the side before throwing (certainly a Manning exploit if there ever was one). Don't suggest I'm trying to game the system, I don't appreciate it one bit.

Just call it a good game, which is what it was.[/QUOTE]

First of all, I'm not saying to anyone that you're "gaming the system". I'm sure the Chargers run a spread offense, but do they really run 4 WRs, 1 TE from start to finish? Even on rushing downs? (as if there were such a thing.. we'll get to that later)

Your back had more attempts because you had to waste time at the end of the game after that fumble since I had only 1 timeout, so don't give me that.

I had kicking lag too... instead of being a dick and putting another 7 on the board at the end of the 1st half, I decided to try a gimme FG and I damn near miffed it on the bar because of the lag. lol So don't feed me the "I had kicking lag so I'm not kicking it" excuse, because there is no such excuse. Pretty sure ubernes said something about blaming stuff like that on "kick lag" .. regardless: I've been there, done that, and got scolded for it. Others have as well. It's just one of those "smokey gray areas" that is hard to debate either way.

Also, on the Manning/Collie touchdown.. I didn't realize it was a crime to roll out of the pocket ONCE in a game, especially when you think you're gonna get blasted by the D. Wow.

Regardless: Hindsight is 20/20. You got the win, I told you it was a good game, and you were a damn good opponent... don't get bent out of shape because I said the only problem I had was watching a 5-WR set come out of the huddle damn near every single play (aside from the last minute you had the ball). I just felt it was ridiculous and wasn't necessary.
 
Just to provide a little more context.. And maybe I'm giving up too much strategy by this but so be it. Yes, I'm a passing offense. That's the result of having an awesome QB who can sling it with accuracy and pretty mediocre backs. When my team was struggling I made the decision to go to a spread offense and even went out and acquired Moss who I thought would fit in well (he's been pretty meh, but that's beside the point). It's hard to argue with the results, since I'm 5-1 since switching offenses, so I'm not going to apologize for running an offense which works for me.

Yes, I run a lot of crossing routes, but no more than anybody else. I like to give Rivers a variety of looks, so if I'm in a 4-wide set there's often at least one person on a drag route as a checkdown. That's just smart football. But it's not as if I'm completing the same pass again and again.

Here's my TDs from this game:

17 yards to Gates (this was actually a curl route IIRC, but I threw it to him before he curled):

71 yards to Jackson (Go route. He got behind the DB, so I threw it to him. As one does)

15 yards to Floyd (Corner route. Wide open because Jackson pulled the DB with a drag route and there was no safety help)

No crossing routes there.

I'm not gonna apologize for running the spread offense, since it works for me and it's not unreasonable in the context of the team I'm using. But it works primarily because I run it well and I understand the nuances of NFL passing offense, not because I'm being tricky.

Most of my games I end up running more times than I pass anyway (Rivers is only 7th in pass attempts, and that's with an extra game played since no one else has played yet.)

Alright, I trust that puts that matter to bed. :D
 
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[quote name='MasterAwesome']Ummm...of all freaking players to get carted off the field this game, it had to be Jon Beason!!! Up 21-0 right now...waiting for an answer to my previous question :'([/QUOTE]

Beason? Damn.. I know the feeling. Against the Bengals, Dallas Clark was carted off the field. Luckily, he was only out for a quarter, but still...
 
Also, and this will be my last comment on it, I see no reason to keep in backs to block when it's not necessary. Why the hell would one do that? To be polite? I didn't see a lot of downs where Clark or Addai stayed in to block, so you had just as many receivers as I did, you were just starting them in the backfield.

I don't rush the passer too much, so I have absolutely no complaint when Addai is running a route on every play. Why should you keep him in to block when there's no one to block? Similarly, if you're not putting much pressure on Rivers, what benefit is there to keeping extra blockers in? I have a very good pass blocking line and I trust them to protect Rivers. If I didn't, you bet I'd keep in extra blockers.

Running the spread is not done in a vacuum, it's a reaction to what the defense is playing. If Rivers isn't in a hurry, I'm gonna give him as many targets as necessary, only one can catch it per play anyway.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']Ummm...of all freaking players to get carted off the field this game, it had to be Jon Beason!!! Up 21-0 right now...waiting for an answer to my previous question :'([/QUOTE]

I feel your pain... i lost Ray Lewis a couple weeks ago
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']Ummm...of all freaking players to get carted off the field this game, it had to be Jon Beason!!! Up 21-0 right now...waiting for an answer to my previous question :'([/QUOTE]

Damn... Isn't Beason leading the league in, like.. everything? :D

I say let him restart, no one should have to suffer such a crippling injury when it can be avoided (as unrealistic as that is), but it's up to ubernes obviously.
 
Lol wow...just finished my game with the Browns but I paused it RIGHT before the game was over to check to see if anyone was injured long-term (which no one was) and then went to use the bathroom. When I got back I completely forgot the game was still technically in session (0:00 on the clock but I paused it before the end of the game screen)...so I chose to quit the game. Now I gotta do it over for the 3rd time...man I had a pick + 6 tackles with Beason, 360 yards with DeAngello, 4 picks with Chris Gamble, etc. etc.

Oh and since everyone is making comments about Beason...I waited til like the 3rd quarter and he had D'Qwell Jackson get injured for 3 weeks so I considered that reason enough to restart :) (maybe that was a little biased...)

Just in case anyone is confused, Beason got injured the FIRST game (which I restarted)...the first paragraph is referring to the second game which I accidentally just restarted.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']Lol wow...just finished my game with the Browns but I paused it RIGHT before the game was over to check to see if anyone was injured long-term (which no one was) and then went to use the bathroom. When I got back I completely forgot the game was still technically in session (0:00 on the clock but I paused it before the end of the game screen)...so I chose to quit the game. Now I gotta do it over for the 3rd time...man I had a pick + 6 tackles with Beason, 360 yards with DeAngello, 4 picks with Chris Gamble, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='MasterAwesome']
Just in case anyone is confused, Beason got injured the FIRST game (which I restarted)...the first paragraph is referring to the second game which I accidentally just restarted.[/QUOTE]

Am I the only one who's MORE nervous in CPU games? The whole time I'm just going "shit shit shit, if I lose this game the league is never going to let me live it down" lol
 
[quote name='bvharris']Am I the only one who's MORE nervous in CPU games? The whole time I'm just going "shit shit shit, if I lose this game the league is never going to let me live it down" lol[/QUOTE]

hahaha... agreed. I was SO hoping I wouldn't have to face CPU Chargers with you being away for a week. I don't think I'd be able to show my face in the thread again if I had lost against the CPU.
 
I had this big reply typed up and realized it really isn't necessary to squabble over it. Cooler heads prevailing... lol

I apologized to bvharris via Xbox Live but I'd like to do it here as well. Sorry if my comments came off a little sharp/blunt. In no way did I mean to say you were exploiting the AI or meaning to do anything of the sort. I tried to clarify that in my responses, but after my initial posts, things got a little more heated than I had liked and all we saw was red.

I will pretty much leave it at that.

It really was a fun game, and it definitely had us both on the edge of our seats. In a way I wished the Colts/Chargers played in the same division because I would love to play against bv again and would do so any day of the week.

As for the Colts' Wild Card chances... I basically have to win out and pray for a lot of help in order to make it in.
 
[quote name='HydroX']it really isn't necessary to squabble over it. Cooler heads prevailing... lol
[/QUOTE]

Indeed.

ubernes - Can you give me a guesstimate on what the Week 13 deadline might be? It's possible I might be coming back Wednesday night instead of Thursday, so conceivable I could play my game (definitely could Thursday). If you think it'll be before that, then Doom and I will go ahead with our scrim plan (we started tonight but got disconnected with the score tied).
 
[quote name='bvharris']
ubernes - Can you give me a guesstimate on what the Week 13 deadline might be? It's possible I might be coming back Wednesday night instead of Thursday, so conceivable I could play my game (definitely could Thursday). If you think it'll be before that, then Doom and I will go ahead with our scrim plan (we started tonight but got disconnected with the score tied).[/QUOTE]

Tuesday. I would be surprised if it took us until Wednesday. I would stick with the scrim idea, but who knows, it took us a while to get going this Tuesday so maybe it'll take us into Wednesday but I would really doubt it.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Tuesday. I would be surprised if it took us until Wednesday. I would stick with the scrim idea, but who knows, it took us a while to get going this Tuesday so maybe it'll take us into Wednesday but I would really doubt it.[/QUOTE]

Alright, we'll stick with that then.
 
[quote name='Ltor']don't suppose i can still sign up? i'll take over any m.i.a. people even if they are the packers lol[/QUOTE]

The Titans are the only team available at the moment. I did not plan on filling them this year since we're so close to the end of the season, however, if that is a team you would be interested in having in Season 2 then I have no problem with you taking them over now and to start building towards that 2nd season.

So I guess the two options are, 1. Take the Titans, who are in like a 0-7 hole, and play your games/prepare for next season, 2. I can put you on the waiting list and you can have a choice from whatever teams open up in season 2, as I imagine not everyone will be sticking around.

Essentially, I don't want anyone to take up the Titans now, shake up the playoff picture and then dump them for another team in the offseason.
 
[quote name='ubernes']The Titans are the only team available at the moment. I did not plan on filling them this year since we're so close to the end of the season, however, if that is a team you would be interested in having in Season 2 then I have no problem with you taking them over now and to start building towards that 2nd season.

So I guess the two options are, 1. Take the Titans, who are in like a 0-7 hole, and play your games/prepare for next season, 2. I can put you on the waiting list and you can have a choice from whatever teams open up in season 2, as I imagine not everyone will be sticking around.

Essentially, I don't want anyone to take up the Titans now, shake up the playoff picture and then dump them for another team in the offseason.[/QUOTE]

I have no problem taking whatever i can get, Titans would be fine. I can wait till next season if you want but i'm not a madden prodigy by any means so i don't think i'd do too much shaking up even if i played lol. Whatever works! Let me know!
 
Well...no pick with Beason this time. I did manage to get 12 tackles (8 for loss) with him due to them running it like 80% of the time. DeAngello ONLY had 260 yards this time and only 1 interception for Gamble, but Clausen was a little more productive...of course we couldn't avoid EVERY injury, so the Browns came away with their 4th or 5th string CB out for 11 weeks (yeesh). I had a player carted off the field but I think it was just for the game. On a side note...playing against the CPU is a hundred times less fun than playing with a person, I hope no one else breaks their leg any time soon.
 
I failed to mention that my favorite Colts CB Jerraud Powers is out for 5 weeks with a broken collarbone.

Considering I have yet to face Doomtime (another ass-whipping I'm looking forward to, lol) as well as my second game vs. the Jaguars, this is going to suck.
 
Anyone know if something is up with neworlbush25? I sent him a PM and posted in this thread for him two days ago and I haven't heard anything back yet. He hasn't been on Live since 9/15.
 
[quote name='BigAT']Anyone know if something is up with neworlbush25? I sent him a PM and posted in this thread for him two days ago and I haven't heard anything back yet. He hasn't been on Live since 9/15.[/QUOTE]

His Internet is down, or at least he cannot get his xbox online. That's why I had to sim his game last week instead of him playing the CPU Browns. If you don't hear from him by say Thursday let me know.
 
[quote name='Appleinthetree']Question of the day

Who would win between these two powerhouses BIG AT or Doomtime and why?[/QUOTE]

Having played both a few times, it's tough to say. They're both very good but they have pretty different styles. I'd probably say BigAT just because I've never played anyone else who can shut down an opposing offense like he can, but it would be a good game. Maybe we'll get a chance to find out.
 
My defense isn't very good to begin with and I never fare well in defensive games. Would be a nice challenge. Also, bv let me know when you're down to play. I have class from 5 - 630 pm PST but I'll be on the rest of the night when I get back.
 
[quote name='siradam134']Doom, i'd like to make my attempt at losing to you tonight, if you would please.[/QUOTE]
lol Alrite I'll play you tonight as well.
 
[quote name='siradam134']Doom, i'd like to make my attempt at losing to you tonight, if you would please.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Doomtime']lol Alrite I'll play you tonight as well.[/QUOTE]

Go Doom! (Obviously the division is a lost cause at this point, so the Dolphins are more my competition than the Raiders at this point).

Doom, let's try again to get our scrim in tonight too.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Having played both a few times, it's tough to say. They're both very good but they have pretty different styles. I'd probably say BigAT just because I've never played anyone else who can shut down an opposing offense like he can, but it would be a good game. Maybe we'll get a chance to find out.[/QUOTE]

Given that there's only one (very special) game we can meet in, I hope I get the chance as well.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Go Doom! (Obviously the division is a lost cause at this point, so the Dolphins are more my competition than the Raiders at this point).

Doom, let's try again to get our scrim in tonight too.[/QUOTE]
Sounds good. Hoping the server gods let us complete the game.
 
BigAT vs. Doomtime? wow. tough question.

The way BigAT just handled the Colts (and apparently half the league) I'd say him, but I have yet to play Doomtime, so we'll see what the future holds.
 
The servers were crap yesterday. Had 3-4 disconnects in a game. Hoping that I don't have that issue tonight with the Bengals.

As for the Doom/BigAT debate, I hope I spoil their Super Bowl fun if I meet up with Doom in the playoffs :D.
 
[quote name='ubernes']
As for the Doom/BigAT debate, I hope I spoil their Super Bowl fun if I meet up with Doom in the playoffs :D.[/QUOTE]

Likewise...
 
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