Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.

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[quote name='siradam134']Trade up for Review:

Patriots 1st Round Pick
Ras-I Dowling: 87 OVR CB, A Pot, 24 Yrs Old
Leigh Bodden: 71 OVR CB, B Pot, 31 Years Old

for

Dolphins:
Cameron Wake: 93 OVR ROLB, A POT, 30 yrs old
Derron Charles: 78 OVR CB, B Pot, 21 yrs Old
Jimmy Wilson: 76 OVR CB, B Pot, 27 Years Old[/QUOTE]

pats are giving up a little more i think the dolphins need to throw in something a little extra to even it up
 
[quote name='staticz']inner-division trades rarely happen, just throwing that out there. [/QUOTE]

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[quote name='staticz']Trade seems fair though, perhaps favoring MIA ever so slightly.[/QUOTE]

I think we're both getting a pretty good deal. Miami gets the hottest player in the offseason in Dowling, while I get an elite pass rusher in Wake. Both the corners I'm getting back are serviceable at least, though Bodden is basically a throw-in at this point.
 
[quote name='staticz']inner-division trades rarely happen, just throwing that out there. Trade seems fair though, perhaps favoring MIA ever so slightly.[/QUOTE]

We're buds. We don't .really. hate each other like the real life pats and dolphins,
and dolphins and jets
and pats and jets.

All 3 of us have genuinely amicable relationships!
 
[quote name='DVO21']pats are giving up a little more i think the dolphins need to throw in something a little extra to even it up[/QUOTE]

:hot: This is unprecedented.

I don't want anything else, I'm good with it like this. Though if he wants to throw half of the tuna sandwich from his lunch my way, I'm not gonna complain.
 
[quote name='staticz']I'm surprised you're going to dump Dowling to be honest. If anyone knows the value of a young, potentially elite CB it would be you.[/QUOTE]

McCourty + Samuel have him blocked from starting on the outside. The two guys I'm getting back are good enough to be my nickel and dime guys. They're not Dowling good, but they're serviceable. Wilson is better than Arrington, who had been my dime guy, so it evens out.

And obviously having a guy like Wake rushing the passer and setting the edge is going to be huge.

I was obviously reluctant to move Dowling, but getting another elite player back makes it a lot easier to do so.
 
I love trying out different players and experimenting with different styles, on both sides of the ball. I've never had a pass rusher close to Wake's ability, I'm really excited to be able to use him. Hopefully he can create enough havoc to cover up any secondary deficiencies I may have created by trading Dowling. Adding Rahim Moore at FS will hopefully help there as well.

On offense, I'll be running a lot more 3-WR 1-TE sets now that Hernandez is gone and Thomas is in. I've still got 4 TEs on the roster though, so the power running formations aren't going anywhere.

Still looking to shore up the offensive line a bit and perhaps add one more linebacker, but for now I'm pretty pleased with how this year's team is shaping up.

Also, if anyone in the latter half of the first round is looking to trade down, I've got three second round picks and would package two of them to move back into the first.
 
I actually don't mind the spikes trade, spikes is going to retire there's no doubt about it. He's a good player, and cameron has potential to be a good player. After this season spikes will be gone and if cameron plays he could be an 80 or close to it. I approve.

Pats trade is fine too, blockbuster. Cwake is a beast, and dowling can shut big receivers down.
 
I actually don't mind the spikes trade, spikes is going to retire there's no doubt about it. He's a good player, and cameron has potential to be a good player. After this season spikes will be gone and if cameron plays he could be an 80 or close to it. I approve.

Pats trade is fine too, blockbuster. Cwake is a beast, and dowling can shut big receivers down.

Fckin glitch cag
 
Breaking News: The Houston Texans have reached an agreement with Artez Cousins, RE out of UW Stevens Pt. Reports have the deal at 5 years, $30 million with a $6 million signing bonus.

Deemed the next Haloti Ngata, Cousins is going to be the cornerstone of the front 7 in Houston as they continue to transition the defensive personnel from the 4-3 to the 3-4. He will primarily play Nose Tackle. (Hope he's higher there he's 6-2, 338 perfectly suited for the 3-4 Nose)
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']Breaking News: The Houston Texans have reached an agreement with Artez Cousins, RE out of UW Stevens Pt. Reports have the deal at 5 years, $30 million with a $6 million signing bonus.

Deemed the next Haloti Ngata, Cousins is going to be the cornerstone of the front 7 in Houston as they continue to transition the defensive personnel from the 4-3 to the 3-4. He will primarily play Nose Tackle. (Hope he's higher there he's 6-2, 338 perfectly suited for the 3-4 Nose)[/QUOTE]

Good choice, I had him pegged as the top player on the board.

Hopefully you're more right about this than you were about that Pats-Broncos prediction. ;)
 
Today's games were awesome. I will proudly insert foot-in-mouth re: Patriots, that defense harassed Tebow all night and Brady shredded the Broncos' D. I was a little too high on Denver's pass rush, I thought they'd do a much better job.

Glad to see the 9ers get it done though...

Hopefully the Ravens handle business tomorrow, I'd love to see the Ravens/Patriots in the AFC Championship.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Good choice, I had him pegged as the top player on the board.

Hopefully you're more right about this than you were about that Pats-Broncos prediction. ;)[/QUOTE]

Thanks, and I hope I am too. Congrats to you guys, you've earned it :applause:
 
Breaking News II: Trade for review
Texans send Glover Quinn - SS, 84 ovr, B Potential
1st round (24th overall pick)

to the Bucs for

1st round (5th overall pick)

So, trading glover quinn to move up 19 spots in the draft. The original offer, the Bucs made was glover for the 5th pick and I didn't think that was fair.
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']Breaking News II: Trade for review
Texans send Glover Quinn - SS, 84 ovr, B Potential
1st round (24th overall pick)

to the Bucs for

1st round (5th overall pick)

So, trading glover quinn to move up 19 spots in the draft. The original he offer, the Bucs made was glover for the 5th pick and I didn't think that was fair.[/QUOTE]

I 2nd this I really need a SS
 
I'll take a closer look at that one in the morning. We haven't seen a lot of "move up in the draft" trades, so I'd like to hear opinions on it.
 
I think that's pretty solid. He likely won't get a 84 OVR SS at that spot, if my draft research memory is correct. However, Rames could get someone in that area and maybe A potential at another position. And Tanabeo is still getting a late 1st rounder. It works well, especially for this draft class IMO.
 
Trade Block
Terry Taylor overall 81 age 23 pot A

looking for a very high first round pick and an extra pick to follow
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']Breaking News II: Trade for review
Texans send Glover Quinn - SS, 84 ovr, B Potential
1st round (24th overall pick)

to the Bucs for

1st round (5th overall pick)

So, trading glover quinn to move up 19 spots in the draft. The original offer, the Bucs made was glover for the 5th pick and I didn't think that was fair.[/QUOTE]


not liking this at all its not fair to the texans division lol ;)

but to be honest this is kinda of a dumb trade there a young SS in the draft at 83 overall in this draft with the number 5 pick he can almost promise himself that pick seems dumb
 
I have to say, I cannot wait for Season 3! By the end of the draft tomorrow I should have 6 out of my front 7 starters different from the start of Season 2. David Harris, my quiet DMVP, is the only starting survivor.

With new offensive coordinator Tony Sparano I also expect a little more balance this year and maybe stray from Season 2's heavy passing attack. A lot will depend on if I come away with a nice #2 WR in this draft or make a move for one shortly after. Either way, I'm looking forward to throwing out a couple different looks on both sides of the ball.
 
[quote name='DVO21']not liking this at all its not fair to the texans division lol ;)

but to be honest this is kinda of a dumb trade there a young SS in the draft at 83 overall in this draft with the number 5 pick he can almost promise himself that pick seems dumb[/QUOTE]

dumb for which side then? if he can get a 83 OVR SS at 5, but can deal that 5 pick for a 84 OVR SS AND another late round 1st round pick, isn't that the opposite of dumb for him? I don't necessarily agree with you, but by your assumptions it's a great deal for him. :)
 
ya the jags have a ton of new starts this year as well kinda worried about the draft just hoping to land the right things i need to improve this team and get there where i need them to be but one can only hoping looks like no one has any interest in schaub guess hes going to rot on the bench this year hope someone's QB gets hurt and they need him lol
 
[quote name='ubernes']dumb for which side then? if he can get a 83 OVR SS at 5, but can deal that 5 pick for a 84 OVR SS AND another late round 1st round pick, isn't that the opposite of dumb for him? I don't necessarily agree with you, but by your assumptions it's a great deal for him. :)[/QUOTE]

just think its odd i mean how old is the guy hes is getting
 
jags trade block

MLB Paul Posluszny overall 90 age 30 pot A u progressed this year again from 89 to 90

MLB Terry Taylor overall 81 age 23 pot A was my number 1 pick last year dudes a beast

only moving one or the other will consider all offers. main interest in an early early early first rounder best offer wins of course all looking for CB FS SS young pot A's would be great
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']hes 27[/QUOTE]

if thats wut u think u really want bro

by the way sent u to PM's i got something for u u might like or might not we will see

sent u three different offers
 
Feel free to pull the "let people run their own teams card" on me but Tanabeo that trade doesn't seem necessary.

You have the 5th pick and there are two high impact A potential SS in the draft that can start for you right away. Not to mention you have my first and third round pick. In addition to that you have 3 B potential FS, one an 85 and the other an 80. You could slide one of them over to SS as another option.
 
thanks doom and GB for some common sense bro atleast if ur gonig to trade that pick make it for a pot A or soemthing bro

clearly the texans are going to win that trade by far and well own the draft for that matter as well
 
Yeah I don't like that trade...it should take a lot more to move up that many spots in the draft (please reference: Falcons and Browns). Like Doom said, he could easily move either Jackson or Black to the SS position (either one looks like they could transition well into that position...high tackle/hit power, pursuit, and good coverage too). Black is slow...but speed isn't a huge necessity for safeties who often sit in coverage. If you compare Tanard Jackson and Glover Quin Jr...they are almost freaking IDENTICAL stat-wise....it's crazy. They're even the same height, age, and just 3 pounds apart. It doesn't make sense to trade for a player you already have. I'm sure Black would be serviceable at FS (assuming he transitions Jackson to SS), but even if he isn't...it's not worth trading down that many spots for a slight upgrade there.
 
So yeah for now I veto no. I'm trying to be more lenient this season with all the trading but I can't let this one go until someone convinces me why he can't just pick up one of the A potential SS or use one of his two 80s rated FS at SS. I understand he has multiple needs, but if it's enough of an issue to make an emergency trade like this, then just draft one of the A potential safeties in the draft.

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Here is my reason behind the trade Glover Quin Jr. his stats are Pursuit 83 Play Rec 71 Man 72 Zone 85 and Press 88 He is a B Pot so if we do go maybe 1-2 more seasons he is just going to get better.

Best SS in the draft Tiras Israel 83 more than likely A Pot his stats are Man 64 Zone 77 So it would take a year(or maybe even two just to catch Quin Jr.) so yes if this would last 3-4 more seasons to draft a rookie would be better. But I'm going for someone who is going to make a direct impact on MY TEAM

Dvo your just going to say no because your trying to get my 1st and 2nd for Matt S. and a MLB why do I need a MLB when I'm trying to trade my 1st pick for a SS?

In this trade I would be getting a 1st pick back that I could get someone else with to also help build my team.
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']Here is my reason behind the trade Glover Quin Jr. his stats are Pursuit 83 Play Rec 71 Man 72 Zone 85 and Press 88 He is a B Pot so if we do go maybe 1-2 more seasons he is just going to get better.

Best SS in the draft Tiras Israel 83 more than likely A Pot his stats are Man 64 Zone 77 So it would take a year(or maybe even two just to catch Quin Jr.) so yes if this would last 3-4 more seasons to draft a rookie would be better. But I'm going for someone who is going to make a direct impact on MY TEAM

Dvo your just going to say no because your trying to get my 1st and 2nd for Matt S. and a MLB why do I need a MLB when I'm trying to trade my 1st pick for a SS?

In this trade I would be getting a 1st pick back that I could get someone else with to also help build my team.[/QUOTE]


thats not all i offered i also offer a pot A SS and my 2nd round pick 33rd in the draft
 
[quote name='DVO21']thanks doom and GB for some common sense bro atleast if ur gonig to trade that pick make it for a pot A or soemthing bro

clearly the texans are going to win that trade by far and well own the draft for that matter as well[/QUOTE]

Common sense don't get me started and as for the texans owning the draft its not my fault you traded the 1st pick to him for someone you dont want.
 
Yea there's plenty of nasssty players in the top 10, it'd take a lot more than an 27yrold 85B SS to get me to pass up a potential ikeem smith. I got him with the 5th pick last season. But I mean he's still getting a first rounder, and a pretty good player in return. He will still have a decent pick. Maybe his roster needs say no, but I'm sure tanabeo has a master plan
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']Common sense don't get me started and as for the texans owning the draft its not my fault you traded the 1st pick to him for someone you dont want.[/QUOTE]

u want to make the trade then its ur problem but its only going to bite u in the ass my friend. its not my problem texans will end up with the win in this trade not sure u could get a much higher rated SS for that draft pick than wut u r is all im saying
 
[quote name='DVO21']thats not all i offered i also offer a pot A SS and my 2nd round pick 33rd in the draft[/QUOTE]

this is were that common sense kicks in I am getting a better SS than the one you offered I still would have 2 first round picks and my 2nd, please tell how your deal is better.

[quote name='ubernes']dumb for which side then? if he can get a 83 OVR SS at 5, but can deal that 5 pick for a 84 OVR SS AND another late round 1st round pick, isn't that the opposite of dumb for him? I don't necessarily agree with you, but by your assumptions it's a great deal for him. :)[/QUOTE]

I think so far one person gets what im doing
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']this is were that common sense kicks in I am getting a better SS than the one you offered I still would have 2 first round picks and my 2nd, please tell how your deal is better.[/QUOTE]

let me send u a different pm to help explain
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']Here is my reason behind the trade Glover Quin Jr. his stats are Pursuit 83 Play Rec 71 Man 72 Zone 85 and Press 88 He is a B Pot so if we do go maybe 1-2 more seasons he is just going to get better.

Best SS in the draft Tiras Israel 83 more than likely A Pot his stats are Man 64 Zone 77 So it would take a year(or maybe even two just to catch Quin Jr.) so yes if this would last 3-4 more seasons to draft a rookie would be better. But I'm going for someone who is going to make a direct impact on MY TEAM

Dvo your just going to say no because your trying to get my 1st and 2nd for Matt S. and a MLB why do I need a MLB when I'm trying to trade my 1st pick for a SS?

In this trade I would be getting a 1st pick back that I could get someone else with to also help build my team.[/QUOTE]

First of all...I just want to point out that "Press" is absolutely meaningless in a safety, so if that's one of the intriguing aspects of Quinn for you, then sorry to burst your bubble. Also...a 28 year old B potential player is in NO way a lock to progress next season. If I had to put money on it, I'd definitely go with either staying the same or possibly regressing.

And have you bothered checking your own safeties before praising Glover Quinn Jr.'s attributes?

Quinn Jr: 83 pursuit, 71 play recognition, 72 man coverage, 85 zone coverage
Tanard Jackson: 84 pursuit, 74 play recognition, 74 man coverage, 89 zone coverage

Not to mention Jackson is a better tackler and harder hitter. Ahmad Black has very similar stats to both Quinn and Jackson as well, he's just pretty darn slow and has about half the awareness, not to mention he's 5'9 :/ I'm sure Quinn Jr. would be an upgrade to Black, but not by enough that would warrant you downgrading that far with your draft pick. And Quinn Jr. = Tanard Jackson.

And why is your focus only on man and zone coverage?? Those are the only stats you even mention for the rookie SS. Safeties are a lot more versatile than you give them credit for...
 
[quote name='BSETI50']If we gave an award for most boneheaded posts in the thread, dvo and widdow would be co-mvp's[/QUOTE]

:lol: I don't know, I still think widow is the leader in that category.
 
[quote name='BSETI50']If we gave an award for most boneheaded posts in the thread, dvo and widdow would be co-mvp's[/QUOTE]

idc anymore he wants to make a mistake like i did last year then go for it not my problem

if any i get mvp for dumbest trade of the year lol FML with the First pick getting traded away for schaub
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']First of all...I just want to point out that "Press" is absolutely meaningless in a safety, so if that's one of the intriguing aspects of Quinn for you, then sorry to burst your bubble. Also...a 28 year old B potential player is in NO way a lock to progress next season. If I had to put money on it, I'd definitely go with either staying the same or possibly regressing.

And have you bothered checking your own safeties before praising Glover Quinn Jr.'s attributes?

Quinn Jr: 83 pursuit, 71 play recognition, 72 man coverage, 85 zone coverage
Tanard Jackson: 84 pursuit, 74 play recognition, 74 man coverage, 89 zone coverage

Not to mention Jackson is a better tackler and harder hitter. Ahmad Black has very similar stats to both Quinn and Jackson as well, he's just pretty darn slow and has about half the awareness, not to mention he's 5'9 :/ I'm sure Quinn Jr. would be an upgrade to Black, but not by enough that would warrant you downgrading that far with your draft pick. And Quinn Jr. = Tanard Jackson.

And why is your focus only on man and zone coverage?? Those are the only stats you even mention for the rookie SS. Safeties are a lot more versatile than you give them credit for...[/QUOTE]

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