Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.

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[quote name='MasterAwesome']First of all...I just want to point out that "Press" is absolutely meaningless in a safety, so if that's one of the intriguing aspects of Quinn for you, then sorry to burst your bubble. Also...a 28 year old B potential player is in NO way a lock to progress next season. If I had to put money on it, I'd definitely go with either staying the same or possibly regressing.

And have you bothered checking your own safeties before praising Glover Quinn Jr.'s attributes?

Quinn Jr: 83 pursuit, 71 play recognition, 72 man coverage, 85 zone coverage
Tanard Jackson: 84 pursuit, 74 play recognition, 74 man coverage, 89 zone coverage
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Not to mention Jackson is a better tackler and harder hitter. Ahmad Black has very similar stats to both Quinn and Jackson as well, he's just pretty darn slow and has about half the awareness, not to mention he's 5'9 :/ I'm sure Quinn Jr. would be an upgrade to Black, but not by enough that would warrant you downgrading that far with your draft pick. And Quinn Jr. = Tanard Jackson.[/QUOTE]

Press is not useless for any player in coverage, linebackers too. By pressing it takes longer for the reciever, whether it be a RB, TE, WR to get off the line, giving the rush more time. Press is very useful, maybe even more useful for a safety or linebacker tryin to cover a slot reciever or tight end.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']:lol: I don't know, I still think widow is the leader in that category.[/QUOTE]

Yea ur right, second place ain't bad dvo
 
[quote name='BSETI50']Yea ur right, second place ain't bad dvo[/QUOTE]

lol i will take the silver :D

becuz gabbert is way better than he is by far. schaub i have no use for at all now with gabbert looking like he is. i just want him gone he just reminds me of the worlds dumbest trade i want to wash my hands of him
 
Where is the spot on the depth chart screen that I can have jackson play both FS and SS please point it out.

Well it looks like I need to waste my draft picks on LBs anyways because I only have one good LB that can play MLB....

I make this trade I have a major upgrade at SS jackson is my FS and he is staying there I was going to use my #5 pick to get a ss that is not as good as glover quin jr. I dont care if he goes down next year I care about this year if he does I will draft a SS next year. I will still have two first round picks my 2nd and two 3rd round picks.

So I can not do this trade get a rookie SS(that is not as good as Quin) and have 1 more 1st round pick or I can do this trade get a SS that I want and still have 2 picks in the first to get other players I need. I just dont get where people are saying im getting screwed.
 
DBs only press when you tell them too (up then down on the d-pad). And when you do choose to press, only the corners move up to press the receivers at the line of scrimmage. So how exactly does press affect safeties and linebackers?? Safeties and linebackers don't utilize contact in Madden when they're in coverage. Safeties don't ever cover slot receivers in Madden anyways unless you're blitzing your linebackers, in which Madden doesn't properly align your safety to face the slot receiver opposite the line of scrimmage so you have to manually move him over there. So I don't know if you don't press very often or what...but linebackers and safeties definitely do NOT press from my experiences with Madden.
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']Where is the spot on the depth chart screen that I can have jackson play both FS and SS please point it out.

Well it looks like I need to waste my draft picks on LBs anyways because I only have one good LB that can play MLB....[/QUOTE]

Do you just arbitrarily pick and choose which parts of my posts you want to read?? I acknowledged multiple times that by moving Tanard Jackson to SS, you would be playing Black at FS.....so AGAIN, I'll say that Quinn would be an upgrade to Black but not nearly enough to warrant moving down 17 spots or w/e in the draft. You seem to like Quinn's stats so much for the SS position, so I'm pointing out that Tanard Jackson has at LEAST as good of stats there. I don't know if you realize that FS and SS are different positions though...it looks like you're looking for the exact same thing in both your FS and SS. FS tend to be utilized more in coverage while SS benefit from higher tackling and pursuit and can be effective blitzers.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']DBs only press when you tell them too (up then down on the d-pad). And when you do choose to press, only the corners move up to press the receivers at the line of scrimmage. So how exactly does press affect safeties and linebackers?? Safeties and linebackers don't utilize contact in Madden when they're in coverage. Safeties don't ever cover slot receivers in Madden anyways unless you're blitzing your linebackers, in which Madden doesn't properly align your safety to face the slot receiver opposite the line of scrimmage so you have to manually move him over there. So I don't know if you don't press very often or what...but linebackers and safeties definitely do NOT press from my experiences with Madden.[/QUOTE]

Edit: after reading again I see what your talking about now

The only thing that kills me if I start black is he is a slug
 
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Wow...I'd suggest you just go to sleep and try to re-read everything tomorrow when your mind is fresh cause you are obviously not grasping ANYTHING I'm saying. Yes, you nailed it......I'm saying this trade sucks because Glover Quinn Jr. has a great press rating.

Edit: Okay lol nevermind...I couldn't care less if you want to do this trade, I'm only trying to give my input to prevent people from regretting trades in the future. Not saying this would necessarily be a trade you'd end up regretting...but the way I see it, it favors the Texans way too much. Too bad I couldn't save DVO.....although I think I agreed to the trade at the time although I'm not sure why I would have...I'd never agree with giving up a 1st round pick for an injury replacement QB, no matter how good he is.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']Wow...I'd suggest you just go to sleep and try to re-read everything tomorrow when your mind is fresh cause you are obviously not grasping ANYTHING I'm saying. Yes, you nailed it......I'm saying this trade sucks because Glover Quinn Jr. has a great press rating.

Edit: Okay lol nevermind...I couldn't care less if you want to do this trade, I'm only trying to give my input to prevent people from regretting trades in the future. Not saying this would necessarily be a trade you'd end up regretting...but the way I see it, it favors the Texans way too much. Too bad I couldn't save DVO.....although I think I agreed to the trade at the time although I'm not sure why I would have...I'd never agree with giving up a 1st round pick for an injury replacement QB, no matter how good he is.[/QUOTE]

lol agreed i wish u would have saved me bro with reasoning like u make who wouldnt listen lol
 
There was no way to save you. We didn't know you were going to finish 2-14 otherwise we would have. I think it was a midseason trade so the gamble didn't look that bad at the time.
 
well not going to let that happen again just give me a virtual slap to the nuts next time i think of trading my first rounder
 
[quote name='DVO21']jags trade block

MLB Paul Posluszny overall 90 age 30 pot A u progressed this year again from 89 to 90

MLB Terry Taylor overall 81 age 23 pot A was my number 1 pick last year dudes a beast

only moving one or the other will consider all offers. main interest in an early early early first rounder best offer wins of course all looking for CB FS SS young pot A's would be great[/QUOTE]


more likely to get ur hands on paul but either way its going to be hard to get rid of either of them so its got to be something pretty
 
After think about and taking a look at the draft board I'm still sticking with my trade

Buccaneers Send

#5 draft pick

Texans Send

Glover Quin Jr. 84 OVR 27 B POT
#24 pick

Black is just to slow for me to start and with me still keeping 2 first round picks I feel it is best for my team as a whole.

Also Jahvid Best 86 OVR 26 B POT 96 SPD 99 ACC 99 AGI 91 ELU and Kellen Winslow 87 OVR 30 A POT looking for a new team.
 
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I get if you guys don't want to approve the Spikes for Cameron trade as I thought there may be problems based on the overalls, but like some have said I'm giving only a 68 player, but he has A potential and will be in the 80s within a few more seasons. Spikes is probably only going to be two more years at most. I think it kind of favors the other team if he doesn't need him, but I'm willing to do it because I need depth even though I'm giving up a potential starter.
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']I get if you guys don't want to approve the Spikes for Cameron trade as I thought there may be problems based on the overalls, but like some have said I'm giving only a 68 player, but he has A potential and will be in the 80s within a few more seasons. Spikes is probably only going to be two more years at most. I think it kind of favors the other team if he doesn't need him, but I'm willing to do it because I need depth even though I'm giving up a potential starter.[/QUOTE]

Was that unanimously shot down? I don't recall it so if you could repost that would be great.
 
[quote name='damailman2272']trade alert

chargers
recieve jordan cameron TE 68 Apot 25

browns
4th round pick[/QUOTE]

Honestly I liked the Spikes trade better. :D

As for the Texans-Bucs trade... You guys seem to be thinking that there won't be elite players left at 24. Just last season I drafted an A potential HB at #30 who won ROTY and is now a 93 overall. At #29 I got a 92 speed SS who is now an 88 overall after one season.

Is it harder to identify future stars at 24 than it is at 5? Of course. So Tanabeo is definitely making his job harder (and Ramesu's easier), but that's his call.

The question is whether the player he's getting is enough to justify down that far.
 
Still want people to review this trade so I'm reposting it

Buccaneers Send

#5 draft pick

Texans Send

Glover Quin Jr. 84 OVR 27 B POT
#24 pick

This would still leave me with the #24, 30, and 37 picks in the first two rounds I think I could get good players that I need with those picks and not have to waste one on a SS
 
We seem to be pretty divided on this one, although both ubernes and myself seem to be tentatively alright with it.

The way I look at it: The Bucs will be getting two starters for the price of one. For a rebuilding team I don't think that's bad news at all.

I do want to make sure everyone is evaluating the trade on its own merits though, and not simply on not wanting to see Houston with a second top 5 pick.
 
[quote name='Superstar']QB: Ryan Kaiser - 89 ovr, A pot, 59 str, 70 spd, 94 thp, 23 years old
[/QUOTE]

You seem to be missing a key attribute there. ;)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Still a no from me.[/QUOTE]

For some reason I'd forgotten that Tanabeo already has your pick as well.

Looking at the Bucs roster a little more, it looks like Ahmad Black has the attributes to be an excellent SS. I don't see why you wouldn't just play him there as others have mentioned, even if you don't draft a new SS.
 
[quote name='bvharris']For some reason I'd forgotten that Tanabeo already has your pick as well.

Looking at the Bucs roster a little more, it looks like Ahmad Black has the attributes to be an excellent SS. I don't see why you wouldn't just play him there as others have mentioned, even if you don't draft a new SS.[/QUOTE]

76 spd he get burnt all the time
 
[quote name='bvharris']For some reason I'd forgotten that Tanabeo already has your pick as well.

Looking at the Bucs roster a little more, it looks like Ahmad Black has the attributes to be an excellent SS. I don't see why you wouldn't just play him there as others have mentioned, even if you don't draft a new SS.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That's what sparked the debate.
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']76 spd he get burnt all the time[/QUOTE]

Are you using him in man coverage on slot receivers? If so, I'm not surprised he's getting burned.

Try running some Cover 3 with him, I think he'd be a beast there. The strong safety doesn't need insane speed to be an effective player in both pass and run support.
 
I'm still lost on why the trade is not good so because I have someone decent on my roster I can't trade for a better person?
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']I'm still lost on why the trade is not good so because I have someone decent on my roster I can't trade for a better person?[/QUOTE]

Not when the thing you are trading away is going to have the same ranking with better potential and will be like 90 next year.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Not when the thing you are trading away is going to have the same ranking with better potential and will be like 90 next year.[/QUOTE]

There is only one SS or FS I want in this draft what if he goes 2-4 then I don't get a player I want? Or I could get a SS I'm fine with still have a 24 and a 30 in the first to get 2 more players that would also be an upgrade to my team.
 
[quote name='DVO21']jags trade block

MLB Paul Posluszny overall 90 age 30 pot A progressed this year again from 89 to 90

MLB Taylor Terry overall 82 age 23 pot A was my number 1 pick last year dudes a beast

only moving one or the other will consider all offers. main interest in an early early early first rounder best offer wins of course all looking for CB FS SS young pot A's would be great[/QUOTE]

anyone need a mlb
 
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[quote name='gbpackers94']Just letting you know: it's Taylor terry and he is 82 ovr.[/QUOTE]


good lookin bro lol was so tired when i wrote that last night
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']There is only one SS or FS I want in this draft what if he goes 2-4 then I don't get a player I want?[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should be trying to trade up? ;)
 
[quote name='damailman2272']trade alert

chargers
recieve jordan cameron TE 68 Apot 25

browns
4th round pick

can we get this trade looked at[/QUOTE]

4th seems too low. a 3rd would be okay. no one is getting a A potential player, even at 68 OVR in the 4th.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']DBs only press when you tell them too (up then down on the d-pad). And when you do choose to press, only the corners move up to press the receivers at the line of scrimmage. So how exactly does press affect safeties and linebackers?? Safeties and linebackers don't utilize contact in Madden when they're in coverage. Safeties don't ever cover slot receivers in Madden anyways unless you're blitzing your linebackers, in which Madden doesn't properly align your safety to face the slot receiver opposite the line of scrimmage so you have to manually move him over there. So I don't know if you don't press very often or what...but linebackers and safeties definitely do NOT press from my experiences with Madden.[/QUOTE]

you dont know how to user press my friend
 
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