Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.

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If somebody can play me now(ish) that would be good. I've got a date with the wife this evening to watch Bridesmaids, so I can't promise when I'll be back on (most likely won't be before 8 PM EST). Gonna be pissed if I don't even get to play my first game.
 
Like I said I won't be on til 630 so all kicking will have to be after then. I would be happy to sub at that time if no one else can. And for those not checking into this thread and scheduling their games consider this your first warning. I'm not dealing with people disappearing without letting anyone knows what's up. AND if you're having trouble scheduling your game you need to PM me. This thread is too much of a mess with trade and other talk for me to sort though those issues.
 
Thanks for offering to sub, Darth. I sent this information in a PM as well, but I'm guessing 5 P.M. Pacific/8 Eastern is when I'd be able to play. I can play later if necessary but obviously everyone wants to advance the week ASAP, so just let me know what works for you.
 
So, if this thread isn't to talk about trades and isn't to talk about scheduling games, what is it for? Not being a smartass...honest question. At least posting in the thread creates a public record of attempts at communicating. Otherwise, I could just claim I PM'd him 394 times and he never responded.

And isn't that the entire point of posting availability? (which some people never did) Some of us have wives/jobs/kids/lives and can't just sit around in Madden waiting for somebody to get on. Just saying, if I get screwed out of a game by TRYING to schedule it, while my opponent gets a free win for disappearing, that's garbage.

fuck, in all honesty, Matt should sub for my opponent, and I should sub for his. Then we can just blow the game for each other, and not give a shit, because really...why not? That's my proposal. Just give it till midnight EST and we'll have the games done.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']So, if this thread isn't to talk about trades and isn't to talk about scheduling games, what is it for? Not being a smartass...honest question. At least posting in the thread creates a public record of attempts at communicating. Otherwise, I could just claim I PM'd him 394 times and he never responded.

And isn't that the entire point of posting availability? (which some people never did) Some of us have wives/jobs/kids/lives and can't just sit around in Madden waiting for somebody to get on. Just saying, if I get screwed out of a game by TRYING to schedule it, while my opponent gets a free win for disappearing, that's garbage.

fuck, in all honesty, Matt should sub for my opponent, and I should sub for his. Then we can just blow the game for each other, and not give a shit, because really...why not? That's my proposal. Just give it till midnight EST and we'll have the games done.[/QUOTE]

Okay, I'm officially back home now. As for your question about this thread, it's pretty open ended. I don't mind if people talk trades (what's on their block, what their looking for, etc) in the thread. The only thing we want to avoid are trade negotiations between just 2 users in the middle of the thread. That's what PMs are for and that's what BV was getting at previously.

As for posting in the thread about scheduling games...that's also cool. I agree with you. It gives you a public record, but when we approach our deadline for the week and you still haven't heard, it is always helpful to receive a PM so I know exactly what's delaying a game and I can help out where I can.

Beyond that clarification you do make a good point on subbing. Although I should also clarify one more thing, no one should be blowing games as a sub. It's a waste of time and you can play the CPU if that's going to happen. The point of a sub is two-fold. 1. No one joined this league to play the CPU. And 2. When schedules don't just match up or someone is out of town (aka involving reliable members, I'm not counting savatage under that category right now) then it's only fair to not give away games. Not even so much to the team being subbed for, but those in that team's conference/division.

Back to your point. Since savatage has been completely MIA through this whole process I do agree that you should not be forced to play a sub if you don't want to. And as I said via PM you can play the CPU.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']So, if this thread isn't to talk about trades and isn't to talk about scheduling games, what is it for? Not being a smartass...honest question. At least posting in the thread creates a public record of attempts at communicating. Otherwise, I could just claim I PM'd him 394 times and he never responded.

And isn't that the entire point of posting availability? (which some people never did) Some of us have wives/jobs/kids/lives and can't just sit around in Madden waiting for somebody to get on. Just saying, if I get screwed out of a game by TRYING to schedule it, while my opponent gets a free win for disappearing, that's garbage.

fuck, in all honesty, Matt should sub for my opponent, and I should sub for his. Then we can just blow the game for each other, and not give a shit, because really...why not? That's my proposal. Just give it till midnight EST and we'll have the games done.[/QUOTE]


cool ur jets buddy... we all have lives outside of the xbox which is why it's difficult to schedule games sometimes. this thread is for general information and the occasional forum war of words...although the latter is frowned upon... game scheduling and trade talks are kept in PMs until something is finalized, then it comes to the thread for public viewing and discussion. If you're trying to schedule a game and ur opponent is a no show or refuses to communicate, u let Ubernes(the commish) know and he usually kicks ur opponent so u can play either the CPU or a sub... so relax, you'll get ur game played one way or another
 
Matt I'm going to give you the option to play the CPU as well since you two are the last two games of the week. I'm going to boot ballhawk and savatage shortly. Matt if you can collaborate with Darth and you guys can work out a time then by all means play h2h if you want to.
 
If matt decides to not play the cpu I should be subbing in for his opponent at 5pm pac. Either way we should be advancing tonight :)
 
I will play Darth since we already set it up, but is there anyone who can sub for Nate's opponent? I can't speak for him but my guess is that he would rather face human competition, as we all would, and it would suck if he didn't have an opponent. If playing the CPU is the best option for him to get the game in quickly, I'm cool with that too.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']What do I do about my game with ballhawk since Sprice says the guy will not be back til October 1st? A sub would be fine, but I'd like for it to be even. I'm 1-0 against ballhawk, but if a guy like Doomtime or MasterAwesome subbed, I'd just get raped.[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. I play a more pass heavy offense when I sub and I'm shit at throwing the ball.
 
Well, it appears we're all SOL for the time being as the servers are down. Maybe it's some higher power telling us to play Gears of War 3...
 
I asked a couple pages back and really didn't see an answer yet, but is there a certain limit to how many times you can have someone sub for you , if not I feel like there should be ?
 
Cru's point of having a sub limit is a good one. If we're just spitballing here, I understand that having subs is making the best of a shitty situation, but honestly, it's not the most fair thing in the world. How do you measure skill to make sure you have an "equal strength" opponent filling in?

And like I mentioned earlier, why should that person even bother trying to win since they're just helping out some person who couldn't make the effort to get their game scheduled? (obviously, vacations, RROD's, family emergencies, etc. are completely different) It gets even more interesting if the person subbing is a division rival, and throwing the game would benefit their standing. It may sound a bit conspiracy theorist, but if I were filling in for the Texans, there's no way I'd want to help them out any.

Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong but I probably would rather play the CPU in that case because then at least there aren't as many external factors coming into play and it's just "too bad, so sad" for the person who has the CPU controlling his fate. Just my two cents. Anyway, I'm about to hop on and play my game now. My apologies to anyone who has been waiting on my game to be played before the league advances.
 
I totally understand where you're coming from. It looks like we'll both be playing the CPU anyway, at least if the servers come back online.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Cru's point of having a sub limit is a good one. If we're just spitballing here, I understand that having subs is making the best of a shitty situation, but honestly, it's not the most fair thing in the world. How do you measure skill to make sure you have an "equal strength" opponent filling in?

And like I mentioned earlier, why should that person even bother trying to win since they're just helping out some person who couldn't make the effort to get their game scheduled? (obviously, vacations, RROD's, family emergencies, etc. are completely different) It gets even more interesting if the person subbing is a division rival, and throwing the game would benefit their standing. It may sound a bit conspiracy theorist, but if I were filling in for the Texans, there's no way I'd want to help them out any.

Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong but I probably would rather play the CPU in that case because then at least there aren't as many external factors coming into play and it's just "too bad, so sad" for the person who has the CPU controlling his fate. Just my two cents. Anyway, I'm about to hop on and play my game now. My apologies to anyone who has been waiting on my game to be played before the league advances.[/QUOTE]

Everything you mentioned above is what I was thinking I just didn't feel like typing it, in addition sometimes you have a gameplan for certain opponents and if they sub in before you really play them, they get a sneak peak.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']
Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong but I probably would rather play the CPU in that case because then at least there aren't as many external factors coming into play and it's just "too bad, so sad" for the person who has the CPU controlling his fate. Just my two cents. Anyway, I'm about to hop on and play my game now. My apologies to anyone who has been waiting on my game to be played before the league advances.[/QUOTE]

In general, the reason we prefer there to be subs is neither to help out someone who missed their game or to disadvantage the person being subbed against. Rather, it's in order to be fair to the other people in your division/conference who are going to be in competition for playoff spots. This is an extremely competitive league where you really need to earn your way into the playoffs, so it's understandable that we'd like to avoid people getting free wins wherever possible.

Picking "even strength" subs is going to get easier as we get further into the season for sure.
 
[quote name='bvharris']In general, the reason we prefer there to be subs is neither to help out someone who missed their game or to disadvantage the person being subbed against. Rather, it's in order to be fair to the other people in your division/conference who are going to be in competition for playoff spots. This is an extremely competitive league where you really need to earn your way into the playoffs, so it's understandable that we'd like to avoid people getting free wins wherever possible.

Picking "even strength" subs is going to get easier as we get further into the season for sure.[/QUOTE]

Exactly this. A vs CPU game has an impact beyond just the person playing the CPU. It affects the entire division or conference. The only way it would ever kind of even out if that specific team was always a CPU auto-win, but it's not. So while you'll get Ws this week, next week someone playing them won't get that luxury. And again, as I said, it's all about playing h2h games. That's why we all joined here in the first place.

There's no way we can put a real limit on subs because there's only a handful of us who are readily available. But we'll be able to even it out a bit where we'd have people subbing for others with similar records (and therefore hopefully skill).

With that all said, I'm still fine with you guys playing the CPU this time around because we really need to advance and move on. But this should explain why we sub and I hope no one has an issue with it moving forward.
 
Darth apparently didn't get a chance to leave the franchise, so I can't play the CPU now. If uber can boot him or he can leave, I'll play as early as I possibly can tomorrow.
 
Server crapped out on me twice while trying to play. Weird thing was, the first time, I got a "dirty disc" error. But when I started the game back up, it told me the EA servers were unavailable. Second time, I just got dropped from EA. During my 3rd attempt, I actually saw Savatage sign online and was about to message him about being re-added and playing our game, but he started up Deus Ex. Anyway, game is finally played. Hope the rest of them aren't this obnoxious.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Exactly this. A vs CPU game has an impact beyond just the person playing the CPU. It affects the entire division or conference. The only way it would ever kind of even out if that specific team was always a CPU auto-win, but it's not. So while you'll get Ws this week, next week someone playing them won't get that luxury. And again, as I said, it's all about playing h2h games. That's why we all joined here in the first place.

There's no way we can put a real limit on subs because there's only a handful of us who are readily available. But we'll be able to even it out a bit where we'd have people subbing for others with similar records (and therefore hopefully skill).

With that all said, I'm still fine with you guys playing the CPU this time around because we really need to advance and move on. But this should explain why we sub and I hope no one has an issue with it moving forward.[/QUOTE]

I understand why we sub , I wasn't saying put a limit on how many times someone can sub for someone but moreso a limit on how many time you can ask to have a sub play your game , example is it ok for a user to miss 8 out of 16 of his games or even 6 games really and have a sub for all six of those games ? Basically I feel like if a person is having a sub play alot of there games isn't that just as much of an injustice to the conference or division as someone playing the computer ?
 
[quote name='Mr Grand Cru']I understand why we sub , I wasn't saying put a limit on how many times someone can sub for someone but moreso a limit on how many time you can ask to have a sub play your game , example is it ok for a user to miss 8 out of 16 of his games or even 6 games really and have a sub for all six of those games ? Basically I feel like if a person is having a sub play alot of there games isn't that just as much of an injustice to the conference or division as someone playing the computer ?[/QUOTE]

And really, if a person needs a sub all the time, can you really even say it's their team? My game tonight, I lost to the CPU. It pissed me off, but at least it was my own fault and not because my opponent got a ringer to come in and take his place.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Why join the league if you're not going to pay attention to the thread or even play the game?[/QUOTE]

I believe they call that one the $64,000 question, lol ;)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Why join the league if you're not going to pay attention to the thread or even play the game?[/QUOTE]

Yea your right I don't think this is the issue with anyone here , but I just thought I would bring up my thoughts on subs before it got too late in the season just in case someone does end up missing a significant amount of games. I'm just trying to really see how many games people think is too many games to miss in one season.

And for the record Doom , you were a good sub , and this has nothing to do with our game or anyone else I have subbed in the past, It's just something I had been thinking about since we started subbing.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I believe they call that one the $64,000 question, lol ;)[/QUOTE]
lol Yep. Hopefully it doesn't stay this way, otherwise, we'll see some of this.

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[quote name='Mr Grand Cru']Yea your right I don't think this is the issue with anyone here , but I just thought I would bring up my thoughts on subs before it got too late in the season just in case someone does end up missing a significant amount of games. I'm just trying to really see how many games people think is too many games to miss in one season.

And for the record Doom , you were a good sub , and this has nothing to do with our game or anyone else I have subbed in the past, It's just something I had been thinking about since we started subbing.[/QUOTE]

Well that comment wasn't directed at you, just the few that haven't really checked in.

It's only the first week though I imagine it will get better.

And if we meet again Cru, expect 90% run lol.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Well that comment wasn't directed at you, just the few that haven't really checked in.

It's only the first week though I imagine it will get better.

And if we meet again Cru, expect 90% run lol.[/QUOTE]

Lol no problem I didn't think it was directed at me , and hopefully by the time we meet again I have some additions to my roster lol
 
Ugh, huge bummer on that news, Matt. I'll boot him before I leave for work this morning. Seems like nothing is going right in Week 1 here. We even have subs holding us up haha. Anyways everyone else should start scheduling their Week 2 games. I assume we'll be advanced by 6:30pm est today.
 
Has the Slaton for Benn trade been reviewed/approved? I know you said trades would be evaluated before we moved forward and I haven't seen any decision made.
 
Thanks uber. To be clear, I didn't think Darth forgot to drop; I just assumed he could no properly access the franchise page to do so with all the errors on EA's end.

I will have the game played sometime before noon Pacific time, assuming the servers cooperate. Regarding week 2, Deuce already contacted me about our game.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Thanks uber. To be clear, I didn't think Darth forgot to drop; I just assumed he could no properly access the franchise page to do so with all the errors on EA's end.
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Yeah, sorry. I wrote a reply stating that the ea servers booted me just after rejoining as the saints but I guess I never actually posted it. Sorry for the hassle.
 
[quote name='Darth0fTheDead']Yeah, sorry. I wrote a reply stating that the ea servers booted me just after rejoining as the saints but I guess I never actually posted it. Sorry for the hassle.[/QUOTE]

It was no problem at all. You went out of your way to try to sub for my opponent, and I am grateful.

I just finished my game vs. the CPU. I barely won, only scoring in the 4th quarter and ending it with a TD with 8 seconds left.

Green Bay Packers 14, New Orleans Saints 10
 
All games have now been played. Everyone should be in the process of scheduling Week 2 games for after ubernes advances us this evening. I would think the deadline for Week 2 will be Saturday or Sunday.
 
I contacted the Bucs owner today. I am hopeful about getting our game in easily because I am off from work this week.
 
pitfallharry219,

Let me know you're schedule through PM or on XBL. I should be around later tonight and can play whenever tomorrow. Friday I'll be in later in the evening and Saturday I'm not sure on.
 
Chargers-Patriots looking like tomorrow night. Looking forward to see what Hell Monkey can do with my old team. Needless to say, I have them well scouted. :D
 
n8rocker, looks like you'd prefer 7 p.m. - 1 a.m. EST which works pretty well for me. I'll be out tonight but should be home around 11 p.m. EST so I'll be able to play starting then. So 11 p.m. EST or later will be fine for me (tonight or tomorrow would both work).
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']n8rocker, looks like you'd prefer 7 p.m. - 1 a.m. EST which works pretty well for me. I'll be out tonight but should be home around 11 p.m. EST so I'll be able to play starting then. So 11 p.m. EST or later will be fine for me (tonight or tomorrow would both work).[/QUOTE]

How about 12 AM EST tonight then? There's a chance I could be on earlier (depending on what my wife wants to do this evening), but it's easier on me if I at least schedule a time. Usually works out better than "I have to sit on Xbox for 4 hours in case my opponent gets on!"
 
[quote name='VeryCheapGame']Bills here. should i just tell raiders to play CPU? I can't play till friday or sat.[/QUOTE]

No. As long as you can schedule the game for one of those days, you should be fine getting it in under the deadline. Go ahead and set it up with him.

If one of you can't make it, we'll arrange a sub.
 
Re: Trades. Give me 30-45 and I'll put them through.

edit: Still haven't gotten these through. I'll do them soon though I just had 2 league games and now I have dinner to eat quickly. Benn for Slaton is one. Someone refresh me on the other. Thanks. I'll go through the thread later when I put them through, but if you get it to me before I do that'll speed things up.
 
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