MAG Discussion Thread

This game is one of the best tactical online shooters I have ever played. There is nothing better than being part of a squad and really working to achieve victory. And as pointless as a online compliment is it does feel pretty good to hear the OIC say, "Why cant you guys be more like Delta Squad...they have already taken out 3 bunkers the AA and 2 burn out towers."


With that said, no other game has filled me with as much nerd rage since not understanding what rubberband AI was in Madden series. The lack of even the most basic tactical know how by people is mind boggling. Both of these event happen numerous times through out my 93 levels (vet already) and I would like to share.

Event 1. A window into our opponents base. I watch as a guy runs up to the window and then falls over dead. Being a combat medic I revive him just to watch in horror as he runs to the same window to get chopped down again. So...I up him once again......just to watch him spring back to the same window and die instantly.

Why is it that most people first reaction after being revived is to immediately sprint into battle? Not even caring about what health they just got they charge cock strong into the jaws of death.

Event 2: (I almost threw my controller at the wall because of it) I am planting a bomb at the AA and get shot in the back. When you are a person who goes after objectives you can expect to get killed while planting a bomb...no bigge.

I then watch as the medic rushes past my body just so he can be the one that plants the charge completely unaware that the reason that I didnt plant it myself was because someone shot me and that person is probably still in the area. Low and behold, he then gets shot in the back.....so then we can both watch as another medic rushes past both of our bodies to set the charge and then...you guessed it...gets shot in the back.
 
Supplice,

Maybe update Valor roster if you will here it is:


CAG = PSN Username

Soodmeg = Soodmeg
SteveMcQ = SteveMcQ
FriskyTanuki = Crashspyro (you have an extra K in his name on your roster)
fizzywix = Fizzywix
sky03 = mushh
fatmanforlife99 = anorexicwes
drbutchevil = drbutchevil
MaskedPlague = MaskedPlague
the_grimace = frankied14
Snake2715 = Snake2715
Ultimate Matt X = TheUMX

Cag Name? = HenryRequiem
Cag Name? = maingon
Cag Name? = AndrewsAwesome



phillyphill39 = No user name?
 
[quote name='Snake2715']Supplice,

Maybe update Valor roster if you will here it is:


CAG = PSN Username

fizzywix = Fizzywixx
[/QUOTE]

Correction on mine, there are TWO x's in my PSN username, and I added everyone on ^ that list
 
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[quote name='Soodmeg']Event 1. A window into our opponents base. I watch as a guy runs up to the window and then falls over dead. Being a combat medic I revive him just to watch in horror as he runs to the same window to get chopped down again. So...I up him once again......just to watch him spring back to the same window and die instantly.

Why is it that most people first reaction after being revived is to immediately sprint into battle? Not even caring about what health they just got they charge cock strong into the jaws of death.
[/QUOTE]
funny but you shouldnt encourage stupidity. i usually end up dying sucking on my med gun.

[quote name='Soodmeg']Event 2: (I almost threw my controller at the wall because of it) I am planting a bomb at the AA and get shot in the back. When you are a person who goes after objectives you can expect to get killed while planting a bomb...no bigge.

I then watch as the medic rushes past my body just so he can be the one that plants the charge completely unaware that the reason that I didnt plant it myself was because someone shot me and that person is probably still in the area. Low and behold, he then gets shot in the back.....so then we can both watch as another medic rushes past both of our bodies to set the charge and then...you guessed it...gets shot in the back.[/QUOTE]

unfortunately, event #2 is a classic example of the need of a mic. my favorite move in that situation to is revive the downed person immediately arm. theres no way someone else can steal your arm and they provide cover for you (hopefully).
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']

Event 2: (I almost threw my controller at the wall because of it) I am planting a bomb at the AA and get shot in the back. When you are a person who goes after objectives you can expect to get killed while planting a bomb...no bigge.

I then watch as the medic rushes past my body just so he can be the one that plants the charge completely unaware that the reason that I didnt plant it myself was because someone shot me and that person is probably still in the area. Low and behold, he then gets shot in the back.....so then we can both watch as another medic rushes past both of our bodies to set the charge and then...you guessed it...gets shot in the back.[/QUOTE]



actually what pisses me off and it's happened way too many times.... I've been planting and die... look at my screen and one of my team has backstabbed me just so they can get the points for planting the explosives. The worst part of it is the 95% of the time they either get killed while planting or get killed and the bomb disarmed all because they were too stupid to defend a charge that someone else would have had planted which would have had 2 people defending it instead of just one.
 
I know I'm crazy in thinking someone is acutally going to care if I get shot, but what is very irritating since your suppose to be a team is that when there are say 2 guys (myself and another) repairing say a "AAA" or "Mortar" and another 1 / 2 show up and say "watchout guys enemies coming" or just start repairing too.. Why doesn't anyone just protect the guys fixing it.. I mean they don't know how much we have left we might be almost done.. ?? at least 1 guy could shoot the enemies closing in on us..
 
[quote name='fizzywix']Correction on mine, there are TWO x's in my PSN username, and I added everyone on ^ that list[/QUOTE]

no there isnt... unless i have the wrong person on my friends list and cag clan.... your xbox has two xx's
 
[quote name='the_grimace']no there isnt... unless i have the wrong person on my friends list and cag clan.... your xbox has two xx's[/QUOTE]


Way to know my PSN username better than I do >.<

You're right, I got my PSN and 360 GT mixed up. Only 1 x, pretty dumb of me, considering its right there under my avatar

:whistle2:#
 
Supplice, here's the S.V.E.R. Cag Clan roster with PSN id's too,

I was checking that I had everyone so just thought It would help out a bit if I went ahead and posted it here too..

S.E.V.R CLAN

Frank Deluded = FrankDeluded
Seanr1221 = SeanR1221
Kandal = Kandal978
Nightmare452 = Neonightmare
Romis = Captnstryker
Shoki = Zedr
ChernobylCow = Chernobylcow
CheapyD = Cheapyd
Harley-tj = Harley-tj
Kurrptsenate = KurrptSenate
Skams00 =Dirtyharry509
Jlarlee = Listerfiend78
Nervousxtian = NervousXtian
Cheap from Birth = Shutup-Sitdown
Scaevola - scavola
 
Thank you Snake2715 & Romis. I updated the roster with the info.

*Btw, anyone buy those M.A.G. Faction avatars from the PSN Store?
 
No, But i think it's a bit of a joke to make people pay $.49 to have the privilege of 'marketing' a product, seems like the company should reward and give out things like avatars, walpapers etc to promote their prorduct.. why nickel & dime consumers.. guess they just want to milk a 'product cow' for all its worth before its put to pasture..lol
 
Anyone else in favor of having a thread for each faction? I think it will make it easier to find players on your own, plus you can talk about strategies for your particular team in the thread. There could be a Valor, SVER, Raven, and a General discussion thread. Game nights can be organized within your faction's thread.

Plus it will support comradery and frinedly rivalry between CAG factions :twoguns::twisted:
 
[quote name='fizzywix']Anyone else in favor of having a thread for each faction? I think it will make it easier to find players on your own, plus you can talk about strategies for your particular team in the thread. There could be a Valor, SVER, Raven, and a General discussion thread. Game nights can be organized within your faction's thread.

Plus it will support comradery and frinedly rivalry between CAG factions :twoguns::twisted:[/QUOTE]

4 threads dedicated to one game? Sounds a bit much to me, IMO...

But then again, I don't play MAG.
 
I was thinking the same thing Fizzywix but I also wondered if it would be better done the Groups? if others are interested in the group thing, I went ahead an started CAG S.V.E.R.-ians.. anyone is welcome to join of if you need invites just let me know
 
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@snake2715

do you want to join the cag valor clan? i noticed you were in another clan so i couldnt invite you but i believe you mentioned something about wanting to join the clan. it may have been someone else though.

also, to all the CAG valor guys, i made it so you guys can send invites to. invite whoever you want. I know when i was in sver a lot of friends of friends joined
 
Anyone here in Valor ?
I need a couple people to play with. I'm sick of playing with randoms lol.

Add me on PSN: DIVINA__ (2 underscores)
 
[quote name='Romis']No, But i think it's a bit of a joke to make people pay $.49 to have the privilege of 'marketing' a product, seems like the company should reward and give out things like avatars, walpapers etc to promote their prorduct.. why nickel & dime consumers.. guess they just want to milk a 'product cow' for all its worth before its put to pasture..lol[/QUOTE]

I agree with you. I almost bought two of them (because I have a stupid $3.01 balance I can't seem to get rid of) and I figured that would be something to use it on. In the end I decided not to get them and just save it for the future. That would be great if you could unlock that type of stuff in games for free ex) Reach level 60 of a faction and unlock that faction's dynamic theme for free. Just a reward for that like to play the game or something.
 
Does anyone use the RPG a lot? I cant seem to figure this thing out....I have gone into matches with the sole purpose of shooting every thing on four wheels or a turret and still only wind up with 2 or 3 tank/turret kills.

It seems like it takes forever to get off a shot and it seems to take around 4-5 hits to blow anything up (unless I am not directly hitting it which is possible)

I dont see a upside to this thing....anyone use the upgrade?
 
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Exactly, every time I dont have one I think to myself, "damn if I had a RPG I could blow this turret up." But when I do have one, I find myself still not blowing it up. I shoot all 3 rockets at it, end up dying by either the turret itself or someone running up. Respawn shoo the same turret 3 more times and still dont blow it up.

I am about to give up on it completely.
 
are you talking about bunker turrets or what?

I think I've only died to an RPG maybe once. I love the fact that noobs can't get easy kills with them tbh
 
Yeah, the bunker turrets.

But all rocket related things actually. I mean I dont mind it being tough to take down but half the time I feel like I am making no progress what so ever. That might be because I seem to be the only one actually shooting rockets at things.

I see tons of people running around with rockets but I rarely see people shooting them at things.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Does anyone use the RPG a lot? I cant seem to figure this thing out....I have gone into matches with the sole purpose of shooting every thing on four wheels or a turret and still only wind up with 2 or 3 tank/turret kills.

It seems like it takes forever to get off a shot and it seems to take around 4-5 hits to blow anything up (unless I am not directly hitting it which is possible)

I dont see a upside to this thing....anyone use the upgrade?[/QUOTE]

i use it all the time. i destroy tons of vehicles and bunker turrets with it. The bunker turrets are harder to take out because they takeabout 5 hits to destroy, but any trucks or helicopters are toast usually in 3 shots. If not, gunfire or grenandes helps finish it off.

Also, i use the rpg reload skill which really helps.

the thing that is starting to bug me is OICs and squad leaders who dont use their abilities correctly, or, at all! the guided artillery is a one hit kill to vehicles and has great range. On offense, the precision strike can literally turn the tide of a battle dramatically. Most OICs dont use it or use it on something stupid like a mortar battery
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']
I see tons of people running around with rockets but I rarely see people shooting them at things.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, its all about the aesthetics. :cool:
 
I usually carry one on one of my 'attack' loadouts, but just how effective it works is questionable

Sure it can make damage when shot at things but after 3 shots you opponent doesn't seem to show realistic damage.
Whether it's a turret, a vehicle and or even a group of soldiers a shot should do more damage, especially a group of soldiers at a reasonable distance (allowing for the rockets to arm) someone should be kiilled at least by debri & shrapnel alone,
Something is wrong when even a rocket shot at a guy dead on doesn't at least knock him down..he shouldn't just keep coming at you and knife you..
 
Yeah, you should get some hit markers to know if you're actually doing damage.

It should also have better splash damage/killing power, they take forever to re-load. It's not like it'd be a huge advantage and you only get 3 shots as well.
 
[quote name='Romis']I usually carry one on one of my 'attack' loadouts, but just how effective it works is questionable

Sure it can make damage when shot at things but after 3 shots you opponent doesn't seem to show realistic damage.
Whether it's a turret, a vehicle and or even a group of soldiers a shot should do more damage, especially a group of soldiers at a reasonable distance (allowing for the rockets to arm) someone should be kiilled at least by debri & shrapnel alone,
Something is wrong when even a rocket shot at a guy dead on doesn't at least knock him down..he shouldn't just keep coming at you and knife you..[/QUOTE]

i actually use the rocket launcher on my defense loadout. use it to take out helis and trucks. works good enough I would say. Then i have my "secret" attack loadout. hehehehe

but yea, if you do the reload skill for the rpg, i really don't think it takes long to reload, and the skill only costs one point. By the time you duck behind cover, your next rocket is nearly ready to go, so you can pop in and out of cover and get your 3 shots off fast this way unscathed

Just decided to try the submachine gun as well. Its actually really really good. The damage is on par with an assault rifle, but I felt it killed almost as fast as a machine gun, and the stability is near 100%. The accuracy is really low, but even without the reflex site, i was aiming with it no problem at all..... maybe a new favorite weapon??? hehe
 
[quote name='PR0BLEMZ']Anyone here in Valor ?
I need a couple people to play with. I'm sick of playing with randoms lol.

Add me on PSN: DIVINA__ (2 underscores)[/QUOTE]

it says your on sver.... :/
 
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well im almost getting out of dodge ..er raven. but i dont know if i can put more hours in the game. so far 100 hours, two pmc's level 60s (counting sver and raven) and ~57% trophy completion. but i dont know if i have the time to join valor.
 
Re: rocket launcher discussion

The only times I've gotten any use out of it is while defending on Acq and Dom, it's of great use against APCs and helicopters.

Tried it a couple of times while attacking to take out turrets but the damn things are impossible to kill, by the time you're ready to shoot the second rocket either the turret has been repaired or the 'driver' is shooting around your area non-stop
 
[quote name='the_grimace']@snake2715

do you want to join the cag valor clan? i noticed you were in another clan so i couldnt invite you but i believe you mentioned something about wanting to join the clan. it may have been someone else though.

also, to all the CAG valor guys, i made it so you guys can send invites to. invite whoever you want. I know when i was in sver a lot of friends of friends joined[/QUOTE]

Yeah I will, I will drop that clan tonight. Its just a few local guys so I can get with them anytime.
 
[quote name='the_grimace']i use it all the time. i destroy tons of vehicles and bunker turrets with it. The bunker turrets are harder to take out because they takeabout 5 hits to destroy, but any trucks or helicopters are toast usually in 3 shots. If not, gunfire or grenades helps finish it off.

Also, i use the rpg reload skill which really helps.

the thing that is starting to bug me is OICs and squad leaders who don't use their abilities correctly, or, at all! the guided artillery is a one hit kill to vehicles and has great range. On offense, the precision strike can literally turn the tide of a battle dramatically. Most OICs don't use it or use it on something stupid like a mortar battery[/QUOTE]

Couple of questions..

First I carry RPG's n 2-3 of my loadouts. I love having it there. I have gotten to the point where I can take a sniper pretty easily with it. I have changed from being a sniper to more of an assault person. I am about to buy the level 2 AR (I am only level 22). There have been many times where there is a sniper and he has a lane locked down. I cant get to him and shoot my gun as quick as he can as I wont hit him (accuracy with AR vs sniper @ a distance), but I can normally launch a rocket before he gets me. So I have used it in those scenarios quite a bit.

Also recently I was defending C in Valor (might have been a game with Mushh recently actually) and got a 4 hit kill with one in the ammo room. So they do come in handy in close combat like that, as long as your not going to take damage from it.

What pisses me off about them is sometimes i will shoot them and watch them fly toward the target. A few seconds later I am dead and its shows I committed suicide to the rocket, which I didn't. I have had that happen on grenades as well. I have watched them fly through the air to the target then i die and it says Snake2715 (grenade) snake2715. Pisses me off. I am not sure what that is happening.



In regards to the OIC. I have not tried that out, but if the commanding officer of a squad does not change the frago (or whatever its called their set point). And we defend a new location, say location C (as A & B are taken). Do we not get Frago bonuses because they didn't move our location? Or do the Frago bonuses come either way?

I swear I played a few games yesterday where we were defending and the OIC didn't change from Point A to Point C after A was taken and I was not getting any Frago bonuses. I may be wrong, but wanted to ask that question, if it makes sense.
 
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[quote name='Snake2715']Couple of questions..

First I carry RPG's n 2-3 of my loadouts. I love having it there. I have gotten to the point where I can take a sniper pretty easily with it. I have changed from being a sniper to more of an assault person. I am about to buy the level 2 AR (I am only level 22). There have been many times where there is a sniper and he has a lane locked down. I cant get to him and shoot my gun as quick as he can as I wont hit him (accuracy with AR vs sniper @ a distance), but I can normally launch a rocket before he gets me. So I have used it in those scenarios quite a bit.

Also recently I was defending C in Valor (might have been a game with Mushh recently actually) and got a 4 hit kill with one in the ammo room. So they do come in handy in close combat like that, as long as your not going to take damage from it.

What pisses me off about them is sometimes i will shoot them and watch them fly toward the target. A few seconds later I am dead and its shows I committed suicide to the rocket, which I didn't. I have had that happen on grenades as well. I have watched them fly through the air to the target then i die and it says Snake2715 (grenade) snake2715. Pisses me off. I am not sure what that is happening.



In regards to the OIC. I have not tried that out, but if the commanding officer of a squad does not change the frago (or whatever its called their set point). And we defend a new location, say location C (as A & B are taken). Do we not get Frago bonuses because they didn't move our location? Or do the Frago bonuses come either way?

I swear I played a few games yesterday where we were defending and the OIC didn't change from Point A to Point C after A was taken and I was not getting any Frago bonuses. I may be wrong, but wanted to ask that question, if it makes sense.[/QUOTE]


OIC cant set fragos, only the squad leader can. The OIC just has really great passive aura perks like improved armor and fast arm/disarm. His abilities, especially on offense are amazing too. With the strafing run, i usually get 10-15 kills easy, and like i said, the precision strike is amazing has its a one hit kill to any building. If you use it on a troublesome bunker, it completely changes the tide of the battle, but like i said, most waste it on something like a sensor array or mortar battery, or don't use it at all.

His skills on defense though tend to suck. The gas mortar barrage is alright, but I still till this day have no idea what the sensor sweep does. I think it just shows enemy mines or something... i really don't know...

as for the squad leader. it's imperative he set fragos. He determines the course of the battle and how to maneuver around. His abilities on both offense and defense are great, but I rarely see them being used, at least wisely.

EDIT: oops, i meant platoon leader, not the OIC. I keep thinking the second leadership rank is OIC.... dont know why...
 
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[quote name='the_grimace']it says your on sver.... :/[/QUOTE]


Really ? Thats weird. I'm with Valor though, I promise lol.
Add me, I need people to play with :)
DIVINA__ (2 underscores)
 
[quote name='enufs8d']well im almost getting out of dodge ..er raven. but i dont know if i can put more hours in the game. so far 100 hours, two pmc's level 60s (counting sver and raven) and ~57% trophy completion. but i dont know if i have the time to join valor.[/QUOTE]

C'mon back to SVER ! The gang's all here lol.. We'll leave ya seat in the APC
 
[quote name='fatmanforlife99']I think the servers might be messed up, I can't get a game going[/QUOTE]

I was playing for an hour and a half earlier so maybe it's up now for you.

I'm not sure if I should go Valor or S.V.E.R. after I get to 60 on Raven. After all the frustration on Raven, I think either side is an upgrade.
 
[quote name='PR0BLEMZ']Really ? Thats weird. I'm with Valor though, I promise lol.
Add me, I need people to play with :)
DIVINA__ (2 underscores)[/QUOTE]

are you sure your psn name is DIVINA__ I definitely searched it and it did indeed show a user with that name, but he was in sver. Your psn name on your profile is DMARKZ something. Is that it??????
 
can someone on sver send me an invite? I need some people to play on a squad with. randoms get annoying after awhile. psn : xinoart
 
@wotcher are you going to stay with raven or switch. Im almost level 60 on valor myself, and your one of the best I played with so wouldn't mind squading up with you again. I was probably going to go back to sver, though I could always go to raven and get the last trophy. Hell knows im not staying with valor.
 
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