McCain on The View

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Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyQpmN-nH64
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoQ_G6eMJAQ
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvEDfwAg1ng

Part 1 is brutally amusing. Nothing important is said, but it's fun to watch McCain be confronted about conforming to the GOP's will & approving filthy attack ads.

Part 2 is more informative, especially with regard to religion. I didn't realize he was so hell-bent on faith... I always thought he was more of the "I have faith but that has nothing to do with governance" type of guy... guess not, and that's scary. Also says Roe v. Wade is a bad decision.

Part 3 has Cindy join him and then it really just becomes a ten-minute McCain ad. Cindy says "the Russians are bad guys" which worries me a little bit, especially with Palin's veiled threat in the Gibson interviews. Electing people who say shit like this could definitely piss off Russia... they need to be a little more reserved even if that is what they believe. If I had bombs and somebody said "Koggit's evil, he better not act out of line" I'd probably bomb that person.
 
WOW! You tricked me into watching The View. And in part 1, at least, those women are so bitchy. I'm glad they didn't squander all of their time with the senator.
 
[quote name='Koggit'] If I had bombs and somebody said "Koggit's evil, he better not act out of line" I'd probably bomb that person.[/QUOTE]

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Wow, have you guys noticed the audience's disapproval of McCain's position on Roe v. Wade? ;)
I don't know about you guys, but I think this interview might have made some damage to his campaign, considering that mostly woman watch The View... :whistle2:#
 
[quote name='Koggit']Part 2 is more informative, especially with regard to religion. I didn't realize he was so hell-bent on faith... I always thought he was more of the "I have faith but that has nothing to do with governance" type of guy... guess not, and that's scary. Also says Roe v. Wade is a bad decision.[/QUOTE]

Well, he wasn't always like that, but the McCain running today is a far cry from the "maverick" McCain of 2006. He's had to kowtow to the religious right since he got the nomination, and it's sad.
 
For any politician it always comes down to votes, maybe some will bend more for them, but they all do to an extent. McCain seems to have bent over backwards.
 
I love the fact where Whoopi asked that if she should be a slave again and McCain didn't say the word "no".

McCain is for slavery! Of course he is so damn old I think he had a few slaves of his own.
 
Does he ever give a speech when being a P.O.W is not brought up? And its sad when the View is where you go to watch good journalism..
 
As a 72-year-old four-time cancer survivor, John McCain is ready for a retirement home, not the white house. He smells like death and ass, which means that Caribou Barbie will soon take the reins from him and begin making reindeer sausage of the constitution.
 
LOL @ The View.

The only time The View was worth a damn was when Lisa Ling was on it.

In regards to Roe vs. Wade, there needs to be legal recourse for men who don't want to take care of a baby either. I don't condone deadbeat dads, but to have one side side with the option of not supporting a child (women and abortions) and the other without that option (men and child support) is less than equal.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']In regards to Roe vs. Wade, there needs to be legal recourse for men who don't want to take care of a baby either. I don't condone deadbeat dads, but to have one side side with the option of not supporting a child (women and abortions) and the other without that option (men and child support) is less than equal.[/quote]

And what exactly would that be?

Actually abortions and adoptions remove the financial burden from both parents, not just the mother, the only difference is that abortion is and should ultimately be the choice of the woman who has to give birth to the child. Since that can't change then I don't see what else there is to do.
 
[quote name='SpazX']And what exactly would that be?

Actually abortions and adoptions remove the financial burden from both parents, not just the mother, the only difference is that abortion is and should ultimately be the choice of the woman who has to give birth to the child. Since that can't change then I don't see what else there is to do.[/quote]


What if the woman wants to abort to avoid financial responsibility, but the father wants to keep the child?

What if the woman wants to keep the child and he doesn't want the financial responsibilty?

All I am saying is everything is skewed towards the mother's side in regard to rights and despite the fact she carries the baby for nine months, she can't get pregnant without a man. I just think the government and people in general need to have an open mind to men's rights and not just women's.

That being said, ideally people would use contraceptives, abstinance, or whatever else to avoid unplanned pregnancies, but then again idealism never works.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']What if the woman wants to abort to avoid financial responsibility, but the father wants to keep the child?

What if the woman wants to keep the child and he doesn't want the financial responsibilty?

All I am saying is everything is skewed towards the mother's side in regard to rights and despite the fact she carries the baby for nine months, she can't get pregnant without a man. I just think the government and people in general need to have an open mind to men's rights and not just women's.

That being said, ideally people would use contraceptives, abstinance, or whatever else to avoid unplanned pregnancies, but then again idealism never works.[/quote]

What I'm saying is that even if the man wants to keep the child and the woman wants to abort it, certainly the man's wants can't supersede the woman's when she's the one who has to carry the child. In the case of when a man doesn't want the financial responsibility then there shouldn't be an out for a "deadbeat dad" to claim his rights to not want financial responsibility. If the two come to an agreement that the father has no financial responsibility then he shouldn't (although surely there's always the possibility that one or the other can be pressured into the agreement), but a father having the ability to just skip out wouldn't be very good.

So my assertion is that there is no other way to arrange things.
 
[quote name='SpazX']What I'm saying is that even if the man wants to keep the child and the woman wants to abort it, certainly the man's wants can't supersede the woman's when she's the one who has to carry the child. In the case of when a man doesn't want the financial responsibility then there shouldn't be an out for a "deadbeat dad" to claim his rights to not want financial responsibility. If the two come to an agreement that the father has no financial responsibility then he shouldn't (although surely there's always the possibility that one or the other can be pressured into the agreement), but a father having the ability to just skip out wouldn't be very good.

So my assertion is that there is no other way to arrange things.[/quote]

While I disagree that the woman's right supercede a man's in this case, I appreciate your response.

There is a link on Askmen that shows the lack of rights that men have dealt with in divorce/custody cases (not specfically abortion). While it is a tangent from the topic at hand, it really is an eye-opener.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-anti-male-court-rulings_10.html

It just seems that judges see too much black and white and not enough grey at times.
 
With divorce and custody I can see where you're coming from. I think judges are just more apt to give custody to the mother and that shouldn't be the case - the child should be given to whoever is best able to take care of it. But before the child is born I don't think a father should be able to force a mother to give birth to their child. Since the mother carries the burden as far as carrying and giving birth to the child then I think the decision should ultimately be hers, though I would hope in most cases the decision is something that they both play a part in.
 
The only time a man should have a say in the case of abortion is when he's married to the female (and possibly long-term relationships.)

It's easy for guys to say "well it takes two!" when they don't carry the burden of health, career and social life issues.
 
Anyone have an easy way to view the Palin / McCain stuff from Hannity? I know it isn't all released yet but still. I'm lazy but interested.
 
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