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so who's worse, the people who can discuss things, even in a brash manner, or the people who think they're funny and try to distance themselves with dumbass jokes?

The former, i.e. the people that waste even a moment bickering about what's on this console and what the other console doesn't deserve, no question.

Funny or not, the truth is that even the most divisive sports fans probably would scoff at half the threads on boards like this...if they made the mistake of taking the time to look at them.

So, my mistake.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Indeed. I am curious what a system seller is (or what comprises it). Clearly price enters into the equation, given the PS3's sales; but as people bring up Madden, I don't see it as a factor at all. Who says "I want to buy the system with Madden on it!" Few, if any, IMO. It's available for every system out there, so as big as it is, it doesn't matter for system choice. Games like Halo, MGS4, Zelda - first-party titles and third-party exclusives matter. It seems like the PS3 is going to continue to suffer as those niche Japanese titles move towards the DS (from the PS2 last gen). As far as EA/Activision titles are concerned, I don't see those titles driving people towards systems because they're (mostly) on all three of them.[/quote]Yeah, for me a system seller has to be exclusive if it's going to be one game, and likely has to utilize the system's unique abilities well. For example, Electroplankton sold me on the DS because that game wouldn't have been on any other system. Down the road, I think Ouendan/EBA would've been system sellers for me if EP hadn't gotten one into my hands.

Of course, a $150 handheld is a little different than a $250/$400/$600 console. Generally speaking I think it would take much more than one game to sell a system to me at MSRP. The novelty of the Wii sold itself to me, but none of the big 3 consoles have a piece of software out that, on its own, would sell my on the system. There's plenty I'm glad to play since I have the system, but that's different than buying a system for a game. I generally view Sony's 1st party offerings along those lines. I wouldn't buy a system for a Ratchet & Clank game, but if I own one, why not play them?
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']But the Mikami comparison IS fair. And it still stands, that game developers' promises are more or less worthless.




HMV is the biggest entertainment retailer in England, noobs. :roll:[/quote]

Last time i checked we are in the United States not england. How many retailers in england get advance notice of a release BEFORE the US retailers? For that matter how often are games confirmed for launch in England before the US?

They are a no name company over here, it doesnt matter how big they are in japan and a simple search shows them as having a history of making mistakes in pricing and game availability so you fail.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']If they announced MGS4 now as coming out on the 360 6 months after the PS3, it would hurt the current sales for PS3 systems and copies of MGS4 on PS3. Some people may actually buy a PS3 just to play one game, and they have not lost that sale.[/quote]

Well first of all Konami doesn't care about PS3 sales, they care about profits. Since they dont get paid for PS3 sales they don't care. Anyone who changed their mind about buying the game for PS3 would end up getting it on the 360 six months later so their profits would be identical.

Anyone who was going to buy a PS3 just for that game could afford the 360 just for that game if they didn't already have one. There is NO downside to them announcing it.
 
It's just an item that doesn't exist. Much like Amazon making up nonexisting Blu-Ray nad HD-DVD place-holder titles and box sets :)

DEE-DEE-DEE.
 
I'm disappointed in you, myke. I thought you better than to put words in people's mouths and create straw man arguments.

The sales of the MGS series have declined with every iteration. It's a VERY story heavy title that really relies on the player having played the previous in the series to know what's going on.

It's not going to bring in new Playstation owners. Maybe convert some of that 4-5 million MGS3 userbase (if they don't already have a PS3) but it's not going to move consoles like Wii Sports did, or Gears of War did, like Madden does, or even like Resistance did.
 
[quote name='snakelda']well,I bought the PS3 just for MGS 4.It's THE reason I got it.I picked up R6 V since it's on the PS3,what the hell![/quote]
Why did you do this? I don't understand why someone would buy a system that far ahead of the game they want. Not just for PS3, but I see people doing this all the time with other systems. Was there some sort of crazy PS3 deal that I missed? Or did you want one of the $500 60gigs before they were sold out? You at least want some of the great games that are coming out this fall for the PS3, right?
 
[quote name='jer7583']I'm disappointed in you, myke. I thought you better than to put words in people's mouths and create straw man arguments.

The sales of the MGS series have declined with every iteration. It's a VERY story heavy title that really relies on the player having played the previous in the series to know what's going on.

It's not going to bring in new Playstation owners. Maybe convert some of that 4-5 million MGS3 userbase (if they don't already have a PS3) but it's not going to move consoles like Wii Sports did, or Gears of War did, like Madden does, or even like Resistance did.[/QUOTE]


I was somewhat in agreement with you until you mentioned Resistance. The point is, this game isn't like a random Nippon Ichi game that only appeals to hentai lovers and pedophiles. It'll push plenty of people over. I guarantee you once the reviews come in, and people start posting about how awesome it is, you'll see plenty of CAGs give in (they're already giving in even though there's nothing all that special out, but I digress..)

It won't move systems like Wii Sports, maybe not like GoW, and Madden sells the most on the PS2 by far so that's moot, but as long as they market it properly, it'll move systems.

Consider that the circumstances for each game have been different for each MGS game launch. Even MGS3 did better than most games could ever hope for while up against a new Halo and a new GTA.
 
[quote name='Brian9824']Well first of all Konami doesn't care about PS3 sales, they care about profits. Since they dont get paid for PS3 sales they don't care. Anyone who changed their mind about buying the game for PS3 would end up getting it on the 360 six months later so their profits would be identical.

Anyone who was going to buy a PS3 just for that game could afford the 360 just for that game if they didn't already have one. There is NO downside to them announcing it.[/QUOTE]

I would think they would much rather sell as many copies to PS3 fans before announcing a 360 port. Why would they want to hurt their first (or is it second?) quarter profits with an announcement that it would also come out on the 360 6 months later? Of course they would much rather sell MGS4 to a potential 11 Million people then the current 3 Million of PS3 owners.
 
[quote name='jer7583']I'm disappointed in you, myke. I thought you better than to put words in people's mouths and create straw man arguments.

The sales of the MGS series have declined with every iteration. It's a VERY story heavy title that really relies on the player having played the previous in the series to know what's going on.

It's not going to bring in new Playstation owners. Maybe convert some of that 4-5 million MGS3 userbase (if they don't already have a PS3) but it's not going to move consoles like Wii Sports did, or Gears of War did, like Madden does, or even like Resistance did.[/QUOTE]

I made no strawmen; I pointed out how CE was trying to claim that MGS was less important than "a football game" (which, as I've said already, is not a system seller by virtue of it appearing on every system out there). So he tries to diminish its importance, and then when I point it out, he accuses me of putting words in his mouth.

Why don't you talk to the guy who is comparing a console-exclusive game to an annual franchise that appears on every goddamned system every goddamned year?

So, if not MGS, what will bring in new Playstation owners? Madden? Why? Street Fighter Whatever? Prolly not. Some Atlus 10,000 copies printed otaku RPG? Doubtful. One thing I'm *NOT* saying is that MGS4 is going to bring everyone to the PS3. But, it *IS* a high profile title that brings attention to the PS3 (as evidenced by this conversation and the near-daily rumblings of it coming to the 360).

Let me ask you a question: Will Bioshock draw people to buy a 360? If so, why? How does one game alone differ from the MGS4 scenario? If not, are you crazy? People are really looking forward to this title.

One thing that sells people on a given system is big titles. Not Madden - we take its presence for granted, but it would certainly be noticed in its absence (Dreamcast). But big titles now, and forthcoming big titles, *those* draw people to systems. People won't spend $500 for MGS4, at least not in large numbers. But turn MGS4 into MGS4, Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, White Knight Story, FFXIII, Eye of Judgment, Disgaea 3, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, and god knows what I've forgotten, and you have a solid system with a solid lineup of titles coming out for it in the future.

Look at the Xbox: You didn't buy it for Madden alone, did you? People bought it for Halo 3, Crackdown, GoW, Viva Pinata, Forza 2, XBLA, and plenty of other major franchise I'm omitting. In both systems' cases, you're right: one game alone is NOT a system seller. The culmination of big titles, and exclusive titles, is what sells systems. But, there is a line of separation that makes the above mentioned games considered "must haves" for a system the way that, say, "Top Spin 2" (a game I love, for the record) is not.

To treat the MGS series in the sort of way that says "oh, *MEH*. It won't translate into any more PS3 sales" is completely absurd. Again, the very fact that we're having this conversation, OVER and OVER and OVER, instead of "holy crap Super Rub a Dub is 360 bound!!!!!!!!!" is an indication of its importance to gaming.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I made no strawmen; I pointed out how CE was trying to claim that MGS was less important than "a football game" (which, as I've said already, is not a system seller by virtue of it appearing on every system out there). So he tries to diminish its importance, and then when I point it out, he accuses me of putting words in his mouth.

Why don't you talk to the guy who is comparing a console-exclusive game to an annual franchise that appears on every goddamned system every goddamned year?

So, if not MGS, what will bring in new Playstation owners? Madden? Why? Street Fighter Whatever? Prolly not. Some Atlus 10,000 copies printed otaku RPG? Doubtful. One thing I'm *NOT* saying is that MGS4 is going to bring everyone to the PS3. But, it *IS* a high profile title that brings attention to the PS3 (as evidenced by this conversation and the near-daily rumblings of it coming to the 360).

Let me ask you a question: Will Bioshock draw people to buy a 360? If so, why? How does one game alone differ from the MGS4 scenario? If not, are you crazy? People are really looking forward to this title.

One thing that sells people on a given system is big titles. Not Madden - we take its presence for granted, but it would certainly be noticed in its absence (Dreamcast). But big titles now, and forthcoming big titles, *those* draw people to systems. People won't spend $500 for MGS4, at least not in large numbers. But turn MGS4 into MGS4, Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, White Knight Story, FFXIII, Eye of Judgment, Disgaea 3, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, and god knows what I've forgotten, and you have a solid system with a solid lineup of titles coming out for it in the future.

Look at the Xbox: You didn't buy it for Madden alone, did you? People bought it for Halo 3, Crackdown, GoW, Viva Pinata, Forza 2, XBLA, and plenty of other major franchise I'm omitting. In both systems' cases, you're right: one game alone is NOT a system seller. The culmination of big titles, and exclusive titles, is what sells systems. But, there is a line of separation that makes the above mentioned games considered "must haves" for a system the way that, say, "Top Spin 2" (a game I love, for the record) is not.

To treat the MGS series in the sort of way that says "oh, *MEH*. It won't translate into any more PS3 sales" is completely absurd. Again, the very fact that we're having this conversation, OVER and OVER and OVER, instead of "holy crap Super Rub a Dub is 360 bound!!!!!!!!!" is an indication of its importance to gaming.[/QUOTE]

Well said I must say. I think you and I agree that MGS will sell systems.....just not as much as people think. Right?

Also, for Madden. I think a lot of people see it as a system-seller in the sense that it will get people to go next-gen. I'm sure there's millions of casual gamers who have been playing Madden or NCAA forever on their PS2, and with each subsequent release in the series (,09, 10, 11, etc) more and more people will be convinced to get a next-gen console just to play next-gen Madden.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Well said I must say. I think you and I agree that MGS will sell systems.....just not as much as people think. Right?[/quote]

I don't know what people think. I don't know how many I think it will sell, and we won't be able to quantify the systems sold as a result; who knows what will be on the PS3 by then? The list of games I put above are some I'm looking forward to, and some will be out by the time MGS4 rolls around. I don't see stagnant PS3 sales being permanently bolstered when MGS4 hits (but that's only if they stagnate again b/w now and next Spring - the price drop has turned a lot of heads to the system).

From a personal perspective, White Knight Story and Eye of Judgment are the titles I'm most excited about. EoJ looks...well, I hate the word, but "trippy." It looks positively fuckin' fascinating, and I can't wait to try it out.

Also, for Madden. I think a lot of people see it as a system-seller in the sense that it will get people to go next-gen. I'm sure there's millions of casual gamers who have been playing Madden or NCAA forever on their PS2, and with each subsequent release in the series (,09, 10, 11, etc) more and more people will be convinced to get a next-gen console just to play next-gen Madden.
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In the US, without a doubt - many people claim that Madden will still sell the most on the PS2 this year. It's easy to see, with the installed base, how that could happen. So, then, are we still not "next-gen" yet, as a result? ;) I don't know what sells systems in Japan, and if I could figure it out, I could get MS to pay me a king's ransom to salvage that console over there. It does help people move to the next-gen, but as a small caveat, it doesn't really help people decide which system they would want to play it on. To be perfectly fair, however, I am desperately awaiting a bad-ass golf game for the Wii; so, if it's Tiger Woods, then I will be choosing one particular console's version of a multiplatform title based on the unique elements it provides. I suppose the same could be said of Madden. We'll see if that's the case based on sales trends; this is really the first gen that offered one dramatically different experience.
 
[quote name='Apossum']The point is, this game isn't like a random Nippon Ichi game that only appeals to hentai lovers and pedophiles. [/quote]
Why good sir, I think you just insulted me! I demand a duel to regain my honor!
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Remember in the past, retailers were actually taking preorders for Suikoden III on Xbox?? Last place I'd trust is a retailer. Sony and Konami call it exclusive for now, so it is.

Also, Kojima himself does not want to port MGS4, meaning someone else at Konami would have to do it. Since Konami has downsized, there's really no capable team on doing a good port.

Kotaku is the last source I trust for news also.[/QUOTE]

you own both systems? why the fuck do you care so damn much?

as someone who owns both systems, I could care less. One game going multiplatform isnt going to kill Sony. Have more faith in your sovereign god.
 
To clarify, for the last damned time, what I meant is that almost no-one "buys a system for one game," and then never buys another game for it again. K? Can y'all comprehend that? I simply don't think that there are that many people who specifically decide that they'll buy one game for the system, and that's it. Whether it's in the back of their minds or whatever, I think that most people who say this know damned well that they'll buy other games for their latest idiotbox at some point.

And myke: you, sir, are a jackass. Yeah, you did build strawmen, and yes, you did put words into my mouth, and yes, you did attach contexts to my statements that were not there, seemingly in a die-hard effort to propagate perceptions that I'm a raving lunatic fanboy. You seem to have simultaneously agreed and disagreed with my statements at times, and in general, you made no fucking sense.

I never said MGS was unimportant or irrelevant. I simply said that I didn't think it was as important (sales-wise) as some people make it out to be. I provided no context or specific definition or measure, relative or absolute, for this statement. All I said was that I think it's blown out of proportion sometimes. That's it.

And when I compared it to "a football game," I wasn't doing so in terms of importance or sales predictions. I was doing so in terms of appeal (which was obvious, as I was replying to your "Limited appeal, huh?" post. Funny how you seem to ignore even the most obvious contexts I place statements in, in order to replace them with your own ludicrous and convoluted ones), and I'm sorry, you can write me all the essays you want, but Metal Gear Solid does not have as much market appeal as a football. Discussions of multi-platform and platform exclusivity have no relevance here. I was talking in absolute terms: Football is a hell of a lot more popular than melodramatic spy games.

MGS is important. No fucking shit. I said that. It's also a series that has been declining in popularity with each release. Even though I hated the games (beat em both) Halo saw sales increase 28% between the first and second games, and it has about three times the penetration rate as MGS on PS2. I'll let that speak for itself. They're both big, but there's little question of which is more popular, game by game.

Keep arguing with yourself, if you must, but leave me out of it.

Oh, and see the "How do you definte 'Hardcore gamer'?" thread (paraphrasing the name) for help with what I meant by the "core" gamer statement.
 
There's no doubt that MGS4 is a big deal and that a 360 port translate into a world of words. However, I believe it's importance outside the general "hardcore" group of Gamers is vastly overstated -- even the Sony fan-boys believe that MGS4 going multi-platform is a death blow to Sony. This is not the case, far from it actually.

If you bought a PS3 just for MGS4, you made a grievous error, whether or not MGS4 ever goes muti-platform. None of the next-gen systems are worth it simply for one game, the lone exception is Wii Sports and the dreaded soul-devouring non-Gamer.

What really irks me is the constant tug-of-war that follows every little mention of MGS4. If you own a PS3 already, you shouldn't give one damn about MGS4 coming to any other system, just as long it still releases on PS3 (likewise if you own both PS3 & 360). Why is their so much animosity towards one another because of what system(s) we own? And to be honest, most of this hatred stems from the PS3-only owners who feel it necessary to attack or defend every time a Video Game discussion erupts. You individuals (who shall no longer be named, but (baring any sort of Mental Illness / Retardation) you know who you are) spent far too much time defending your system of choice.

[quote name='FriskyTanuki']We need an MGS4 multi-platform conspiracy thread to cut down on all of these threads that say the exact same thing every single time.[/QUOTE]

I agree whole heartily. One single general thread, with all others getting locked or deleted.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']There's no doubt that MGS4 is a big deal and that a 360 port translate into a world of words. However, I believe it's importance outside the general "hardcore" group of Gamers is vastly overstated -- even the Sony fan-boys believe that MGS4 going multi-platform is a death blow to Sony. This is not the case, far from it actually.

If you bought a PS3 just for MGS4, you made a grievous error, whether or not MGS4 ever goes muti-platform. None of the next-gen systems are worth it simply for one game, the lone exception is Wii Sports and the dreaded soul-devouring non-Gamer.

What really irks me is the constant tug-of-war that follows every little mention of MGS4. If you own a PS3 already, you shouldn't give one damn about MGS4 coming to any other system, just as long it still releases on PS3 (likewise if you own both PS3 & 360). Why is their so much animosity towards one another because of what system(s) we own? And to be honest, most of this hatred stems from the PS3-only owners who feel it necessary to attack or defend every time a Video Game discussion erupts. You individuals (who shall no longer be named, but (baring any sort of Mental Illness / Retardation) you know who you are) spent far too much time defending your system of choice.



I agree whole heartily. One single general thread, with all others getting locked or deleted.[/QUOTE]


Never4ever, i totally fucking agree with you on this subject.

I guess the only other thing that i can really ask is, if it wasn't MGS4 would it really mean that much to people?

They've still got other exclusives that will sell.

What if it was The Darkness? or Nascar 08? Would there still be this much fodder flying around with people frantically searching for an answer to a question that doesn't really matter either way.

Hey, i've got a ps3, mgs4 comes out, sweet.
Oh wait, it's multi platform? nice, i've got a 360 too.

Metal Wiir Solid? not so much.
 
[quote name='the3rdkey']I got an idea. Let us make another thread about MGS4 coming to Xbox 360.[/QUOTE]

I'd rather make one about Halo coming to PS3. Mmm...that's a stretch. Let's say...Mass Effect coming to PS3.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']I'd rather make one about Halo coming to PS3. Mmm...that's a stretch. Let's say...Mass Effect coming to PS3.[/QUOTE]
Mass Effect is owned and published by Microsoft. It's just as likely Mass Effect will come to the PS3 as it is Gears of War coming to the PS3, or Ratchet and Clank: Future Tools of Destruction coming to the 360.


If Microsoft suddenly decides they want to publish games for their competitors, then yes, Mass Effect could come to the PS3.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']
Why good sir, I think you just insulted me! I demand a duel to regain my honor! [/quote]


wait....how so exactly? *picks up phone with fingers over the 9 and 1 buttons* :lol: jk

[quote name='jollydwarf']so who's worse, the people who can discuss things, even in a brash manner, or the people who think they're funny and try to distance themselves with dumbass jokes?

The former, i.e. the people that waste even a moment bickering about what's on this console and what the other console doesn't deserve, no question.

Funny or not, the truth is that even the most divisive sports fans probably would scoff at half the threads on boards like this...if they made the mistake of taking the time to look at them.

So, my mistake.[/QUOTE]


1. there's a quote function, why not use it?

2. maybe you're not interested in what's going on in the industry, but apparently the people in this thread are. "bickering" comes with that, but if you interpret light jabs while arguing as something horrible, then you should probably just stick to delivering pizzas or something equally non-confrontational. if you're just here to rip on what other people like, then fuck off.

3. And even the most divisive gamer would scoff at half the threads on a sports forum. who the hell cares. People are allowed to like, discuss, and be passionate about whatever they want. I rarely use this word since its meaning has been mangled over the years, but you sir, are the epitome of pretentious in that post.



Sorry to go off topic guys, but somebody deserved it...


but it would be great if everyone could migrate to this thread:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3207869&posted=1#post3207869
 
[quote name='Apossum']but if you interpret light jabs while arguing as something horrible, then you should probably just stick to delivering pizzas or something equally non-confrontational.[/QUOTE]
You have obviously never delivered Pizza's before.

*pats trusty 9mm from the old Dominos days*
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']You have obviously never delivered Pizza's before.

*pats trusty 9mm from the old Dominos days*[/QUOTE]


I delivered in the north suburbs of chicago. :lol:
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']You have obviously never delivered Pizza's before.

*pats trusty 9mm from the old Dominos days*[/QUOTE]


haha, I completely understand how that is.

btw?
is this thread a bust yet?
 
[quote name='the3rdkey']I got an idea. Let us make another thread about MGS4 coming to Xbox 360.[/quote]

I seconded that idea, and if we could I would say lets make a whole new discussion area for talking about MGS4 going to the 360. I'm excited :bouncy:
 
[quote name='guyver2077']they need to just officially announce its comin to 360 and kill all this rumor bs already...[/quote]

Actually, they did, Peter Moore and Hideo Kojima have both stated it's not coming to 360. :D
 
Couldn't Konami just re-release Subsitence on all 3 next-gen platforms with the first 3 MGS games again? (hey, one can dream, can't they? :cool:) And while we're at it, where's next gen Goemon...*ahem*

Not trying to defend it, but it's pretty much human nature to be inquisitve/prod at the uncertain. Isn't that how blogs/forums really more or less took off in the first place? Isn't that all that science is good for (just kidding...sort of :lol:)? So while some people might think it is useless to argue over what may or may not be a moot point, it's only when it goes to extreme fanboyism that it gets really bad. Although not completely analogous, there *IS* a reason why tabloids/celebrity gossip is so huge. While most of us may certainly not give a damn about celebs, I would hope everyone on this forum cares about gaming.

Don't lie. If you are not just about completely non-partisan/very good at being strictly objective/don't all 3 next gen-consoles, chances are, at least deep down, (if not very umm...outwardly ;)) and are hoping for the best console exclusives for their console of choice. But the more gamers that get their fix, the better. If mgs4 comes to 360, great! If not, that's fine, too. The only people that are truly missing out are the people that can't afford more than one console (I completely emapthize with people in this plight). The others are all either raging fanboys, don't care for the game(s), have no idea what they are missing out on, have real lives, are rational people with more to do than bicker, etc...

(although, the cinematic/graphical experience imo is part of what defines mgs games in general so I would be lying if I said I was actively rooting for a wii version of the game...although we all know the odds of that one becoming reality :roll:...although, in the same token as to what i've said before, if it's a fairly plain, unasthetic wii version or nothing for someone and the game is all that truly matters...)
 
I would definitely buy it for both consoles.

Once it comes out for That Circle, the That Triple version will be shelved and collect dust for all of eternity.
 
[quote name='jovherye']Bump w/update. Let the shit fly! Happy New Year![/quote]
Since this was posted, we do in fact have a thread for these conspiracy pieces. Feel free to post it there.
 
[quote name='help1']12-14 months. Lawl.[/quote]

MGS is a system seller. If I didn't have a PS3 and could save at the very least $400 by waiting a year, I'd do it.
 
Well, if it was a year, nearing the time that year was up, spoilers would hit the 360 boards so freaking fast.

Come on, can we stop with this already, please? How long have we heard about this? And openly too. Come on. Rumors this big don't stay rumors for this long without it being fake. It's like Microsoft buying Capcom. It comes up every once in a while, but it's always false.
 
well i cant see MGS4 coming to xb360.....MAYBE Substance. this thread is just the same as when people were that were saying that Silent Hill 3 and MGS3 were getting ported to xbox. ether way a while back i read that there was already 17gb of video and the game was only half way done at the time. yea it can come out multidisc on 360 but for sum reason i dont see that happening. and for Scorch's post about a motion sensor xb360 controller, i dont see that coming out and i dont see people buying it if it does. nevertheless, this thread should be taken down.
 
i think its true because MGS2 was a ps2 exclusive...then MGS2 Substidance came out for the xbox.

another example... GTA 3 was a ps2 exclusive.... then it came out for xbox.

didn't the xbox version of MGS2 come out like a year later?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']xboxfamily? the hell is that website?[/QUOTE]

Anyone? Anyone? I've never heard of the website, and as we've all seen rumors of various kinds over the years, the first thing we should do is scrutinize the source here (just to make sure it's not some bullshit site hurting for pageclicks).
 
[quote name='sfriedlander']i think its true because MGS2 was a ps2 exclusive...then MGS2 Substidance came out for the xbox.[/quote]
MGS3.
 
Sounds like speculation that the subsistancwhatever version will come to the 360.

But...why would Konami ever announce that now and hurt sales for the PS3 version?
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Sounds like speculation that the subsistancwhatever version will come to the 360.

But...why would Konami ever announce that now and hurt sales for the PS3 version?[/quote]
Because this obscure website asked them nicely?
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Because this obscure website asked them nicely?[/QUOTE]

Obviously Konami reps enjoy hurting themselves financially.
 
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