MGS3 Goes Offline

This is why I am thankful for XBox Live. Even if no one plays the game, at least the service is still there.. unless it's made by EA, because they're dicks and won't let MS host their games, so they shut down the online play in their games.
 
[quote name='Scorch']This is why I am thankful for XBox Live. Even if no one plays the game, at least the service is still there.. unless it's made by EA, because they're dicks and won't let MS host their games, so they shut down the online play in their games.[/QUOTE]
or Capcom with Steel Battalion: Line of Contact
 
Not that the beta for MGO will be over soon, I cannot wait to see what they do for MGS4. Konami needs to fix their software to be more lenient to who can host a game, since nobody I know can do it and none of us can figure it out.

Shut up, Scorch. This has nothing to do with Xbox Live because it was a beta service.

Edit: I just logged on and I see games with comments calling Kojima "FAGS" because of this. :roll:
 
Yeah they should have ported it to the 360 ;) Atleast the servers there would always be online, as long as MS runs the servers.

Hell, you can pull out games like Dead Man's Hand for the XBox and the games STILL work on Live. MS is very dedicated to keeping their games going. EA blows however.
 
Wow.. I really like playing this game online. It's fast and rediculous and makes no sense, which is what makes it so good. I'll miss capturing kerotans and dropping porn mags.

That's a REALLY short lifespan for an online game. Boo to konami for this. As has already been said, really makes you appreciate Xbox live that much more, when I can still play Mechassault 1 or CounterStrike to this day and find other people playing.
 
Honesty, it's things like this that make me extremely worried about the future. I love ripping out games that I've played through 4-5 years ago and completely replaying them through again (well, the games I really enjoyed).

But, now, it's looking more and more that you won't be able to recreate the experience, since games are taken offline very quickly and many games don't bother making quality bots/etc to play with because what beats playing with real people?

I'm with many other people, this is just another point for Xbox Live here.
 
Lame. The online play in Subsistence was a blast, though I was terrible at it.

Looks like I have to get some games in before April 2nd.
 
Man, I never even had the chance to go online yet.

[quote name='jer7583']Wow.. I really like playing this game online. It's fast and rediculous and makes no sense, which is what makes it so good. I'll miss capturing kerotans and dropping porn mags.

That's a REALLY short lifespan for an online game. Boo to konami for this. As has already been said, really makes you appreciate Xbox live that much more, when I can still play Mechassault 1 or CounterStrike to this day and find other people playing.[/QUOTE]

Counter-Strike is one of the reasons I still pay for my live account.
 
[quote name='Scorch']This is why I am thankful for XBox Live. Even if no one plays the game, at least the service is still there.. unless it's made by EA, because they're dicks and won't let MS host their games, so they shut down the online play in their games.[/quote]

QFUT

(Quoted for ultimate truth).
 
Man, this sucks, I don't think it was available to play for that long anyway. All because they want to promote Portable Ops? Again, why the PS2/PS3 model for online service is flawed.
 
This comes as a complete surprise to me. Though it's been forever since I played it, still sucks.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Not that the beta for MGO will be over soon, I cannot wait to see what they do for MGS4. Konami needs to fix their software to be more lenient to who can host a game, since nobody I know can do it and none of us can figure it out.

Shut up, Scorch. This has nothing to do with Xbox Live because it was a beta service.

Edit: I just logged on and I see games with comments calling Kojima "FAGS" because of this. :roll:[/quote]

wtf are you talking about? How was the online portion of Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence a beta?
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']wtf are you talking about? How was the online portion of Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence a beta?[/quote]
Because Kojima can't just plug online into Metal Gear Solid 4 and expect it to be perfect. They've got to start somewhere and see what works and what doesn't so it'll evolve. What's a more perfect way to get that by debuting MGO in Subsistence, getting feedback with surveys (about downloadable content and such), and building a community around MGO? It's unfortunate that it'll be done soon, but it makes me anticipate what they have in mind for MGO on MGS4. MGO on MPO is an evolution of that, with some improvements that'll help evolve MGO for the future installments of MPO.
 
Because stuff like this and EA closing servers after like a year, is the reason why I don't give two shits worth about the PS2s online play. Of course EA closes down the servers for xbox games too...ugh...assholes...
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Sorry to go so off-topic, but I won't be able to sleep until I get an answer: why abbreviate a sentence if you feel the need to explain your abbreviations?[/quote]

You are going to be awake for awhile because I really don't know why I did it.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Because Kojima can't just plug online into Metal Gear Solid 4 and expect it to be perfect. They've got to start somewhere and see what works and what doesn't so it'll evolve. What's a more perfect way to get that by debuting MGO in Subsistence, getting feedback with surveys (about downloadable content and such), and building a community around MGO? It's unfortunate that it'll be done soon, but it makes me anticipate what they have in mind for MGO on MGS4. MGO on MPO is an evolution of that, with some improvements that'll help evolve MGO for the future installments of MPO.[/quote]

So under that logic, any online play that appears in a previous game in a series is a "beta"?
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']So under that logic, any online play that appears in a previous game in a series is a "beta"?[/quote]
No. You're missing the key piece of info, the only reason to come into this thread: the early closing of MGO in Subsistence. There's no reason to close it so early unless there's another purpose or meaning behind it ("Successful Beta!").
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']No. You're missing the key piece of info, the only reason to come into this thread: the early closing of MGO in Subsistence. There's no reason to close it so early unless there's another purpose or meaning behind it ("Successful Beta!").[/QUOTE]

Well, that reason could also be "It costs us money to run these servers, and not enough people are playing, so fuck ’em." I mean, they COULD leave Subsistance alone and still get the info they'd need to perfect the MGS4 online play, right?
 
I'm with the Tanuki on this one. I've never played a game online like this where there were SO MANY chances for feedback (the official site, the igames tournament, and that official Kojima Productions MGO feedback club on 1up, just to name a few examples).

I don't think Portable Ops is a good indicator of what's coming down the pipe; I'm betting they felt simply taking the MGO experience portable was good enough for the PSP. We'll see the real outcome of this massive "beta" in MGS4, no question.
 
[quote name='trq']Well, that reason could also be "It costs us money to run these servers, and not enough people are playing, so fuck ’em." I mean, they COULD leave Subsistance alone and still get the info they'd need to perfect the MGS4 online play, right?[/quote]
You're telling me that Konami couldn't be willing to pay the bills for MGO for any longer than a year for their biggest franchise?
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']You're telling me that Konami couldn't be willing to pay the bills for MGO for any longer than a year for their biggest franchise?[/quote]

Yes?

How many people honestly look at their collections, see MGS3:S and say, "man, I want to fire up an online game of that up tonight"? Not many apparently. This same exact thing happens with most any online enabled console game. It's popular for about 3 months, then nobody plays it anymore. Of course there are exceptions to this rule, but those exceptions are generally adopted in high numbers by the masses. I don't think this version of MGS3 was exactly a system seller, no matter how good the reviews were. Konami has access to the numbers of people who play games of this, and after seeing the numbers fall off, they decided to pull the plug. It was nothing more than that.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']Yes?[/quote]
Convincing answer. ;)

[quote name='mtxbass1']How many people honestly look at their collections, see MGS3:S and say, "man, I want to fire up an online game of that up tonight"? Not many apparently.[/quote]
Several hundred apparently.
[quote name='mtxbass1']This same exact thing happens with most any online enabled console game. It's popular for about 3 months, then nobody plays it anymore.[/quote]
There are several hundred people playing every day. There's a dedicated fanbase for the game. Nothing that warrants the servers to be closed. I've seen plenty of online Konami games that have online servers despite being new with nobody on them because nobody owns the games. It seems that they're quite supportive of servers whether nobody's playing or not.

[quote name='mtxbass1']Of course there are exceptions to this rule, but those exceptions are generally adopted in high numbers by the masses. I don't think this version of MGS3 was exactly a system seller, no matter how good the reviews were.[/qoute]
Because the Halo Triple Pack was a system seller? It's a rerelease of Metal Gear Solid 3, those that were interested in the original got Subsistence.

[quote name='mtxbass1']Konami has access to the numbers of people who play games of this, and after seeing the numbers fall off, they decided to pull the plug. It was nothing more than that.[/quote]
And I doubt that because there is still a lot of people playing the game, so it's not like there's a sharp drop in players. You don't just cut that off a game so soon if it's one of your most popular online games.
 
[quote name='Rozz']I'm just wondering, what was the point of that?[/QUOTE]
Because linking to Random Internet Copy/Paste "News" Site #23892 instead of the source article is poopy.
 
[quote name='aduckie']DigitalBattle is just as reliable as GameSpy, my friend.[/QUOTE]
I didn't question the validity of the site. I do however question why a "news" site feels it is ok to copy/paste the source, switch a few words around, surround it with ads and call it a day. At least they posted the link to their source at the bottom.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']You're telling me that Konami couldn't be willing to pay the bills for MGO for any longer than a year for their biggest franchise?[/QUOTE]

I think we're kinda on the same page: MGS:S online as a beta for MGS4. Ok, fine. But even with that being the case, why not leave Subsistence alone, period? It is, as you, say, their biggest franchise. There's no reason to kill it, beta or not, unless they just didn't think it was profitable.
 
[quote name='Zing']I didn't question the validity of the site. I do however question why a "news" site feels it is ok to copy/paste the source, switch a few words around, surround it with ads and call it a day. At least they posted the link to their source at the bottom.[/quote]

Isn't that what every news site does?
 
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