MLB 2010 Discussion Thread

[quote name='DomLando']They both stink. Wright is producing a little more though.[/QUOTE]

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i dont think Wright is ever that guy to carry a team with his bat. Beltran was that guy and without him...Wright just stinks. The numbers wildcpac posted plus the K'zone that BBTN did on wright is alarming. He is swinging at everything but the K'Zone. you just throw outside and he will chase with 2 stirkes. That big ugly swing he has and his plate discipline is killing him. Its funny too that the Mets see nothing wrong with him or else they would have fixed him by now.

Sure he has more home runs that last year but strikes have risen and again as cpac posted....he will hit over 200 K's. He is becoming more of a liability than a hitter we can count on.

I am still wondering why everytime Jerry decides to pinch hit a hot pitcher that he always goes for KMJ...when Chris Carter is 10000000000000000000000000000000x better than he is at the plate. Its getting stupid and once the Mets lose this series to the yanks and get swept by the Phils at home....i hopefully can say good bye to Jerry.....i am ok with Melvin as interim because it can't be much more worse than Jerry Manuel.
 
I think if the Mets had more reliable hitters around Wright, it would make Wright a lot better. Look at the last two years and the guys who have hit around Wright. Pitchers know he is the Mets best hitter and Wright gets the least amount of good pitches.

Even though his strikeouts are high, his walks are also high. When the Mets get some quality hitters around David I think the strikeouts will go down to what he was averaging 2005-08. Until then expect his strikeout numbers to be rather high.
 
DMat, yes DMat had a no hitter to the bottom of the 7th against the Phillies of all teams. Go figure.


Yankees "offfense" is a fucking joke and an embarrassment. I cant even count the amount of times that the offense has stranded runners in scoring position this year with less than 2 outs. Tonight is the Cherry on the sundae. Yankees "offense" had first and second with no outs in the top of the 7th down 3. Gardner grounds out to make it 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Do Tex and Arod drive them in? fuck NO. Story of the past 2 weeks. Someone better be fired after today because I am getting sick of this shit.


Congrats to the Mets on the win because we all know the Yankees "offense" isn't going to make a comeback. It sucks to see your team fail time and time and time again with runners on base and no outs or 1 out. Especially when 3 out of the 4 Mets runs came after 2 outs and nobody on base and all 4 of the runs came on 2 out hits.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']DMat, yes DMat had a no hitter to the bottom of the 7th against the Phillies of all teams. Go figure.


Yankees "offfense" is a fucking joke and an embarrassment. I cant even count the amount of times that the offense has stranded runners in scoring position this year with less than 2 outs. Tonight is the Cherry on the sundae. Yankees "offense" had first and second with no outs in the top of the 7th down 3. Gardner grounds out to make it 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Do Tex and Arod drive them in? fuck NO. Story of the past 2 weeks. Someone better be fired after today because I am getting sick of this shit.


Congrats to the Mets on the win because we all know the Yankees "offense" isn't going to make a comeback. It sucks to see your team fail time and time and time again with runners on base and no outs or 1 out. Especially when 3 out of the 4 Mets runs came after 2 outs and nobody on base and all 4 of the runs came on 2 out hits.[/QUOTE]



tell me about it..i've been yapping about that all year.

Dont count out the Mets bullpen to blow it. Feliciano just pitched like an idiot and has the bases loaded and now we are putting in an overworked Nieve. The Mets will be lucky if they get out of this inning leading. as you see i am really pessimistic.

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Bullpen imploding just about now!
 
Yankees "offense" SUCKSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1st and 2nd no outs in the 7th, 0 runs. Bases loaded and no outs in the 8th, 2 runs off of a walk and a force out. 1 lousy fucking hit with 6 outs to play with and it would be a tie game. All 3 runs for the Yankees came off of an infield single that should have been an out, a walk and a ground out. Team is a fucking joke.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Yankees "offense" SUCKSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1st and 2nd no outs in the 7th, 0 runs. Bases loaded and no outs in the 8th, 2 runs off of a walk and a force out. 1 lousy fucking hit with 6 outs to play with and it would be a tie game. All 3 runs for the Yankees came off of an infield single that should have been an out, a walk and a ground out. Team is a fucking joke.[/QUOTE]

hahaha its cool man..its one game man, cant win em all.

wow Jose, i think its time to use that noggin of yours and stop being stupid. Can't believe he tried to stretch it to a double...when he could have held and opted to try and steal after that....

dear Jerry,
Please stop it with KMJ. he only has like 3 hits total on the season. He cant hit a inflated beach ball let alone a baseball....please no more of this guy. i really really had enoug.
 
Well it looks like Derrick Lee is making the Cubs' decision on whether to re-sign him a very easy one... It figures that Soriano would get back to hitting over .300 this year but A-Ram and D-Lee have disappeared.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']And the Yankees lose a 2 run game where they stranded the population of NYC on base in scoring position.[/QUOTE]

That's how us Met fans feel almost every day.
 
Jose Lima dead at the age of 37 due to a heart attack. Wow, RIP Lima Time. That mid to late 90's Astros Team are dropping like Flies. Kile, Ken C and now Lima.
 
Pujols and Pedroia went 9-50 with no RBI, SB, and six runs this week.

And, in related news, my fantasy team went 1-9. Not much else can be expected when my two biggest bats go dark like that.

I really hate weekly head to head formats.

I'm probably just going to trade Pujols for Lincecum; it'll give me TIMMAH, Wainwright, Lee, Carpenter, and Sanchez as my top five starters in a 12 team league. I inherited a team that was weak offensively anyway. I'm not going to win AVG, HR, or RBI with any consistency.
 
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Congrats to the Mets on another win. Yankees suck ass with runners on base and no outs. Mets get 2 out rbi hits left and right.


Fat fuck gives up 4 runs all with 2 outs. Yankees get 1st and 2nd with no outs in the top of the 3rd and Bert grounds into a double play. This team is turning into a fucking joke.
 
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I start FF today tied in wins with my opponent. I've got Carpenter, Halladay, and Kuroda going. In the bag, right?

0 wins, 6.72 ERA. Ouch.
 
Fat fuck gives up another homerun to Alien Baby. Pretty funny to see the Mets out homering the Yankees who have failed to hit one homerun this weekend.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Fat fuck gives up another homerun to Alien Baby. Pretty funny to see the Mets out homering the Yankees who have failed to hit one homerun this weekend.[/QUOTE]

Dude, just stop watching the games for the next month. They're going to be miserable. The team is hurting so bad right now, they'll probably be at .500 in a month's time. On top of the injuries, the pitching has been underperforming, and Teixeira still isn't playing like a #3 hitter, so that's a HUGE hole in the lineup.

But all they have to do is get the wild card, make sure everybody is healthy come October, and they'll be the favorite to win it all again. I'm just thankful a lot of teams are struggling this year. What Tampa Bay does is irrelevant. They can win 120 games for all I care. The Yanks just have to get to the playoffs and it's a brand new season.
 
Tex isn't hitting like a 3 hitter? You mean Tex isn't hitting like the 25th man on the roster. Top 3 in the lineup have been on a month long slump. Tex outside of 2 games has been on a whole season slump.
 
Wildcpac you give up way to easily. The mets bullpen is blowing as speak. Krod no location and Iggy just SUCKED. The Mets are no where near out of the woods yet.


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This is nerve racking.

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Phew! Almost blew that one but surprising series win by the mets. Even though we face only 1/2 of a complete Yankee Lineup. im happy either way. Great pitching performances all round but Bullpen is going to need some work and Jason bay....geez, where did this power come from...

i am sure once the yankees get their players back...they will be beast to be reckon with.
 
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I gave up when the Yankees gave up tonight. That includes CC forgetting how to get a 3rd out to end the inning. That includes Brett failing with 1st and 2nd no outs after CC just gave up 4 runs. That includes Tex forgetting how to get a base hit.

It also includes me giving up when the whole Yankees offense gave up. Yankees went what 4 innings without a base runner? It's not even the fact that the Yankees failed. It's the fact that they didn't even try. Mets have a horrible bullpen, doesn't matter too much when the Yankees give Johan 3 innings of 7 pitches or less. I believe 2 of those innings were 5 pitch innings. That is a disgrace to the Yankee way. 3 Hitters keeping their bats on their shoulder will see 5 pitches at the very least each. Yankees actually had somewhat of an approach at the plate tonight and Johan would have been out of the game after 6 innings tops.


This current team forgot why the Yankees won 5 World Series, 7 Pennants and 14 playoffs. It's called tiring out the starting pitcher and getting to the bullpen. Letting Johan have a 5 pitch inning, 5 pitch inning, 7 pitch inning is beyond criminal in my book.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']Wildcpac you give up way to easily. The mets bullpen is blowing as speak. Krod no location and Iggy just SUCKED. The Mets are no where near out of the woods yet.


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This is nerve racking.

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Phew! Almost blew that one but surprising series win by the mets. Even though we face only 1/2 of a complete Yankee Lineup. im happy either way. Great pitching performances all round but Bullpen is going to need some work and Jason bay....geez, where did this power come from...

i am sure once the yankees get their players back...they will be beast to be reckon with.[/QUOTE]

Even though the Mets are terrible, it still makes me happy when we beat the Yankees in a series.

We will be back to being terrible Tuesday.
 
[quote name='DomLando']Even though the Mets are terrible, it still makes me happy when we beat the Yankees in a series.

We will be back to being terrible Tuesday.[/QUOTE]

amen to that brotha
 
The NL East is pretty crazy right now. I can't tell who will drop off at this point, although I expect it'll be the Nationals.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']The NL East is pretty crazy right now. I can't tell who will drop off at this point, although I expect it'll be the Nationals.[/QUOTE]

The Mets will drop way before the Nationals.
 
wildcpac, you definitely get way too high and way too low sometimes lol. It's a 162-game season. You rarely see something like the '98 Yankees or '01 Mariners, where a team simply never gets cold. The Yankees came out of the gate like gangbusters, which has not been like them recently, so you had to know they were going to hit a wall eventually. And the reality is, this Yankee team has a lot of older people who are going to get hurt, end up on the disabled list, and/or have to play through some aches and pain.

I am still amazed, though, over the fact they refused to sign Matsui, because they didn't want a full-time DH, and then they signed a full-time DH. Not only that, but a man who always gets hurt...a man who everyone said would get hurt...a man who did get hurt. Granted, Matsui has fallen off the face of the Earth this month, but still, I think it would have been a good move to keep in the Bronx for one more year.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']wildcpac, you definitely get way too high and way too low sometimes lol. It's a 162-game season. You rarely see something like the '98 Yankees or '01 Mariners, where a team simply never gets cold. The Yankees came out of the gate like gangbusters, which has not been like them recently, so you had to know they were going to hit a wall eventually. And the reality is, this Yankee team has a lot of older people who are going to get hurt, end up on the disabled list, and/or have to play through some aches and pain.

I am still amazed, though, over the fact they refused to sign Matsui, because they didn't want a full-time DH, and then they signed a full-time DH. Not only that, but a man who always gets hurt...a man who everyone said would get hurt...a man who did get hurt. Granted, Matsui has fallen off the face of the Earth this month, but still, I think it would have been a good move to keep in the Bronx for one more year.[/QUOTE]

yeah its a long season but i do understand Wildcpac though...its wearing emotion on your sleeves....how many times have i acted like that lol..and then the Mets surprise me.
i think losing Matsui was a big mistake. He provided a big bat anywhere in that lineup and to replace him with guys like Randy Winn is inexcusable. I would have payed him for the extra year. i also think that he has a worse lineup in LA so he has no protection besides Hunter and Morales.

That said, I am now waiting for all the RA Dickey nicknames to surface. I guess the way your shut down philly is by putting in a knuckle baller. They couldnt get to him all night long. Not looking too forward in the series but its nice to be one a small win streak again. Now only if we can score wins against the natties and the marlins lol then maybe we crawl out of the cellar.
 
Bruce, I do not expect the Yankees to hit clutch 3 run homeruns every single time. I do expect a team that has numerous guys making 10-20 million bucks to make productive outs and for pitchers to get the 3rd out without giving up runs. Yankees have failed like 90 percent of the time the past couple of weeks with RISP and less than 2 outs. I will never tolerate that. There are so many ways to drive in a run on an out. Grounding out to the pitcher, striking out is inexcusable in my book. Plus ever single run the Mets scored this past weekend all came with 2 outs. And a ton of the runs came with 2 outs and nobody on base.


Yankees do not miss Matsui so far. He is hitting .230 with an OPS of 80. Last year his OPS was 130 and has a career 122. All he would be doing is dragging down the DH which is needed for the Arods/Jeters etc's of the world to get extra rest from the field.


It's not the fact that the Yankees signed Nick Johnson over Matsui. The Yankees didn't want to keep Matsui because he can no longer play the field and would be stuck at the DH spot. Plus if and when they were to sit him a game, the team had to deal with 100 Japanese reporters asking why is Matsui out of the lineup. It's not an excuse but it is a valid point. Yankees wanted to keep Damon because they could throw him out in LF and pray to the baseball gods that he wouldn't make an ass out of himself. Damon got too cute, wanted more money and the Yankees decided to move on. Johnson was signed due to his OBP, figured he wouldn't get too injured at DH and could give Tex a day off here and there. Johnson wasn't also expecting to be the 24/7 DH so the Yankees would have been able to throw Arod, Jeter, Posada at the DH without dealing with potential controversy.
 
But the fact remains...the Yankees were concerned about Matsui's age and health, so they signed a guy who is 4 years younger, but has been on the DL 13 times. It doesn't make sense any way you look at it. When guys like A-Rod and Jeter need to DH, then Matsui rides the pine. At some point, somebody on this team has to take the Ruben Sierra/Bernie Williams/Jason Giambi role. If you're not better than the guy who needs a break, you sit. Signing a crappier, less reliable player is not a solution. Regardless of whatever idea they had for Nick Johnson, it was foolish to think that he could fulfill it. The guy's track record is horrible.
 
They took the gamble because the Guys track record was as a 1b in the NL. They probably figured they would play him 5 games a week at dh and another 1 at 1b and sit for a game. Matsui has stunk so far this year. Damon wanted big money and held the Yankees for 2 years plus a whole lot more. He ended up taking less with Detroit. Who should the Yankees have signed?

Yankees only wanted to do 1 year contracts for a variety of reasons. 1 being that they didn't want money invested next year with the free agents who are available. Winn sucks but was signed to be the 5th outfielder. The other options were the Reed Johnsons and Frank Catalanotto? of the world who both have stunk this season. Reed is hitting .300 but very little xbh. Winn gets exposed for the crap that he is because Granderson goes down with an injury, Thames is worse than Damon in the OF and Johnson goes on the DL.
 
You can't really compare Matsui's stats this year and when he was on the Yankees. With the Yankees lineup around anyone you automatically become a better hitter.
 
[quote name='DomLando']You can't really compare Matsui's stats this year and when he was on the Yankees. With the Yankees lineup around anyone you automatically become a better hitter.[/QUOTE]

yup and in LA there is really only Kendry Morales with any type of power....So yea i cant see a comparison.

That said,

I can at least be happy with the Mets are playing finally. 2 straigh shut outs and they have been putting runs on the board. 2 series against two elite teams...please dont make this a cock tease NYM please!(even though it probably is) but whatever i can be happy again for once.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Signing a crappier, less reliable player is not a solution. Regardless of whatever idea they had for Nick Johnson, it was foolish to think that he could fulfill it. The guy's track record is horrible.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. Exactly.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']yup and in LA there is really only Kendry Morales with any type of power....So yea i cant see a comparison.

That said,

I can at least be happy with the Mets are playing finally. 2 straigh shut outs and they have been putting runs on the board. 2 series against two elite teams...please dont make this a cock tease NYM please!(even though it probably is) but whatever i can be happy again for once.[/QUOTE]

Dickey and Takahashi better then Perez and Maine....who would have thought. Also Barajas keeps surprising me. I keep waiting for him to get into a 0 for 20 or so slump.

I tend to kid around a lot about the Mets being real negative and what not, but I am real happy to see Reyes starting to look like the old Jose Reyes we Met fans know and love.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']They took the gamble because the Guys track record was as a 1b in the NL. They probably figured they would play him 5 games a week at dh and another 1 at 1b and sit for a game. Matsui has stunk so far this year. Damon wanted big money and held the Yankees for 2 years plus a whole lot more. He ended up taking less with Detroit. Who should the Yankees have signed?

Yankees only wanted to do 1 year contracts for a variety of reasons. 1 being that they didn't want money invested next year with the free agents who are available. Winn sucks but was signed to be the 5th outfielder. The other options were the Reed Johnsons and Frank Catalanotto? of the world who both have stunk this season. Reed is hitting .300 but very little xbh. Winn gets exposed for the crap that he is because Granderson goes down with an injury, Thames is worse than Damon in the OF and Johnson goes on the DL.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying they should have signed Damon. It was quite apparent that Johnny punched his own ticket out of NY. But the team didn't even really give much thought to Matsui (in part because they were still chasing Damon when Matsui signed with LAA). But regardless of what Matsui is hitting or how he's playing in LA, he's a better player than Nick Johnson, and I would choose him over Nick Johnson any day of the week.

And I'd never even argue against the Granderson move. Yeah, they got rid of Austin Jackson, but who knew Jackson would live up to the hype or that Granderson would get hurt? That's just life. And I don't have any problems with the other outfield moves. Getting rid of Melky for Javy, signing Winn and Thames. As you said, those were supposed to be bats off the bench. But they signed Nick Johnson to be the #2 hitter. And they SHOULD have known exactly what they were getting. NL 1st baseman or not, he's missed significant time every year of his career. I understand the logic that he SHOULDN'T get hurt DH'ing and only having to swing a bat. But this is Nick Johnson we're talking about. Stevie Wonder could see it coming.
 
Giants lucky to get 2/3 at home vs. the Nationals....

Nationals got a nice little squad....once Strasburg comes up they'll be a contender for the WC.
 
So the 2 worst offenses in baseball recently belong to the Yankees and the Phillies. Yankees offense just flat out sucks and the Phillies have been shut out 4 out of their last 5 games including all 3 to the Mets.


The Mets swept the Phillies and shut them out all 3 games. What in the fuck is this world turning into. Hell just frooze over and Pigs are flying.
 
Good news Yankee fans, Randy Loss got dfa'ed!!!!!!!!!!! Sucks that things didn't work out for him but I am sure 2 million for a retirement gift is well worth it.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']You know your knuckleball isn't working when you give up a slam to Yuniesky Betancourt[/QUOTE]

Sox had a 3-0 and a 5-2 lead. Time to seriously question if you should retire when you give up 7 runs to the Royals in an inning. Who is Wake replacing in the rotation? Is Josh out? Why is VMart still used as Wakefields personal catcher? Everytime I see those two it always leads to failure.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Sox had a 3-0 and a 5-2 lead. Time to seriously question if you should retire when you give up 7 runs to the Royals in an inning. Who is Wake replacing in the rotation? Is Josh out? Why is VMart still used as Wakefields personal catcher? Everytime I see those two it always leads to failure.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Beckett's out. I think it's his back, but not 100% sure. It's embarrassing to play like this against the Royals, after taking care of superior teams for the better part of the last week. 8-2 against the Yanks, Twins, Phils, and Rays, and then 0-1 against the Royals, likely 0-2. And having Betancourt beat you is sad.
 
Real Story is the Mets with a shutout over the Brewers so far through 5 1/3 innings. Santana does have a ton of pitches and should max out at 7 innings. Mets are going for their 4th shutout in a row.


Mets with a shutout through 7. 34 innings without giving up a run. Unreal.


8 innings tonight, 35 in a row and the Offense forgot how to score runs.
 
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Nationals are playing tonight's game under protest because the pitcher the Padres wrote down is actually down in Triple A. I wonder if they'll win this one. Might have a good chance since he's not on the team.

Nationals are scrappy, but they need a left-handed bat and to be healthy. They have loads of injuries right now.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Mets lose on a walkoff 2 run shot with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. Another kick in the balls loss for the team.[/QUOTE]

yeah seriously...after a stellar performance Santana gave...leave it to the shakey pen to yuck it up. I wish they left Santana to start the ninth. Iggy is not ready to pitch in that spot. Shoulda went else where.

was hoping for another great victory...but hopefully they rebound from it and make up for a lackluster performance by the offense and bullpen. Offense was just anemic today even though they scored 9 hits.
 
Phillies finally ended both their scoring drought and losing streak tonight w/ a 3-2 victory over the fish in a rainy, empty ballpark.
 
[quote name='Proto Man']Phillies finally ended both their scoring drought and losing streak tonight w/ a 3-2 victory over the fish in a rainy, empty ballpark.[/QUOTE]

The Phillies need Rollins back desperately. Last year they scored the most runs and he was amongst the lead leaders in steals....now i think the Phillies as a whole have 18 which is near the bottom. They need that lead off to tear up the base pads.... once he is back...and fully recovered from that injury..the phillies will be a team to be reckoned with again.
 
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