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[quote name='MSI Magus']Exactly. I figured the response would be an overwhelming no. And was thankfull for peoples suggestions. It was the asshole comments that I got defensive about. Man I dont know why I keep giving people like myvkhbitchfew and headrush multiple chances taking them off ignore. Seriously....some people just have no manors and cant express themselves without insulting others.[/quote]

Yeah, America is a brainwashed comsumerist society, so most ppl think that what you have to eat at your wedding says more about your relationship then your feelings for your bride-to-be. Unfortunately there will be many ppl like that at your wedding, which is what I think alot of the ppl here are trying to say (well, the ones who aren't engaged in artless shock-humor at least)
 
Aight magus I've been backing you the whole time and you still are calling me "pita". Don't get me wrong, I love mediteranean/m. eastern food, but not as much as I love the school PITT or the food PIZZA!!

PITT PIZZA!!! Nice to meet you.

Myke I see what you're saying. It can be tough to listen to advice you really don't want to follow (I love my crocs but won't wear em outside); I really can't blame someone for defending thier views even when they're the minority. Nor can I blame someone for getting defensive when bombarded with basement shut-in responses like "you'll be divorced" and "I can't beleive she is with you" (though Magus they are to be expected, you should know!).

Moving back On topic, it seems there is a common theme in a lot of CAG threads where people are seeking advice, my own threads included. We here all have the same lowest common denominator: We are all gamers and we are all cheapasses.

In this setting, we can expect to find views and opinions coming from these types (which as Magus correctly pointed out, are overwhelmingly male) similar to our own. Now OP many of my views in this thread come from my own frustration of having to drop so much (even though its less than average) on my own wedding.

Still, there is a common question in alot of threads that is some variation of "Is what I'm doing too far from socially acceptable?" Whether it is about wearing crocs, having pizza weddings, kicking over magazine racks or sporting your jedi halloween costume. It often surprises me to find that the views of CAG are only very slightly more adolescent/unfashionable/dorky/nerdy/videogamecentric than that shared by most of society. I don't know why I always expect the cheapass-gamers to shine through when the opinions so frequently just end up mimicking the norm.

OP you, and I, and everybody reading this just needs to ask him/herself "How can I express my individuality and maintain my sense of self w/out getting shunned/pissing off the inlaws/getting made fun of for wearing crocs?" There is a balance that we all must find b/w social acceptability and our own punk selves.

I hate advising to assimilate, though it seems your best bet here. I hate feeling like a worker-bee filing into my office in the sky while swinging black boxes (breifcases) where I'm dressed exactly like everybody else (black/blue/brown/grey suit w/ a white shirt and a tie) but these are things we have to do in order to fit in/keep our job/keep the wife and inlaws happy. The only question is how far are you willing to go and how much are you willing to piss people off to have pizza at your wedding. (
 
[quote name='pittpizza']Aight magus I've been backing you the whole time and you still are calling me "pita". Don't get me wrong, I love mediteranean/m. eastern food, but not as much as I love the school PITT or the food PIZZA!!

PITT PIZZA!!! Nice to meet you.

Myke I see what you're saying. It can be tough to listen to advice you really don't want to follow (I love my crocs but won't wear em outside); I really can't blame someone for defending thier views even when they're the minority. Nor can I blame someone for getting defensive when bombarded with basement shut-in responses like "you'll be divorced" and "I can't beleive she is with you" (though Magus they are to be expected, you should know!). [/QUOTE]

Woah you wear Crocs? Hmmm mind coming over to my house for a bit of fun? ;P

Sorry I couldn't resist the joke. Whoever's seen Real Time might get the joke. If not, here's a hint, people who wear Croc's go all the way. ;-P
Judy sounds like your wedding might rock. I mean the Tofu. Are you a Vegan or Vegetarian?
I'm telling ya'll if I ever have a wedding I'm going to be a sneaky shit. It's going to all be Vegan and subtle too. You know it's going to be some foods that are naturally Vegan and other shit snuck in.
MSI have you thought of trying some natural treatments or even a change in diet to see if it might help your panic attacks? Just a suggestion.
Btw weddings can be cheap and still mean something it's how you do it. Can someone else remind me of what else is so blatantly consumerist as a wedding? I want a solid comparison here, one that shows how commercial and shallow our common perceptions of weddings are by association.
Oh and when I said they can still mean something look at Russell Crowe's wedding. When I heard about what he did I thought it was so cool.
MSI one other question and this goes for all the males as well as females. Have you thought of taking her name and placing it in front of your last name and vice versa. I believe this shows you are truly putting the other person first even more. I also believe the daughter's should take the mother's maiden name and the boy's the father's but that's later.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Woah you wear Crocs? Hmmm mind coming over to my house for a bit of fun? ;P

Sorry I couldn't resist the joke. Whoever's seen Real Time might get the joke. If not, here's a hint, people who wear Croc's go all the way. ;-P
Judy sounds like your wedding might rock. I mean the Tofu. Are you a Vegan or Vegetarian?
I'm telling ya'll if I ever have a wedding I'm going to be a sneaky shit. It's going to all be Vegan and subtle too. You know it's going to be some foods that are naturally Vegan and other shit snuck in.
MSI have you thought of trying some natural treatments or even a change in diet to see if it might help your panic attacks? Just a suggestion.
Btw weddings can be cheap and still mean something it's how you do it. Can someone else remind me of what else is so blatantly consumerist as a wedding? I want a solid comparison here, one that shows how commercial and shallow our common perceptions of weddings are by association.
Oh and when I said they can still mean something look at Russell Crowe's wedding. When I heard about what he did I thought it was so cool.
MSI one other question and this goes for all the males as well as females. Have you thought of taking her name and placing it in front of your last name and vice versa. I believe this shows you are truly putting the other person first even more. I also believe the daughter's should take the mother's maiden name and the boy's the father's but that's later.[/QUOTE]

My moms a hippie....sorry I mean believer in homeopathy(just a joke dont get upset) so ya iv had changes in diet and other alternative healing approaches too. They gave me extra iron, or zinc or something for a long while and screwed around with my diet. None of it really helped. Im pretty sure my panic attacks come from the fact that my mother never really forced me to do anything I was scared of and just let me run away. Dont get me wrong I take responsbilty for the patch I walked. And I walked every bad path I could. I ran away from a few schools because of issues with them, whenever I found out about big projects I faked sick and then never did the work. Eventually I just stopped going to school all together to avoid stuff because I was so damn scared of it. My whole life till I was in my 20s and already screwed up was running away. Doctors have put a whole shit ton of diagnosis on me such as aspergers and severly/clinically depressed but I dont really believe in stuff like that iv have worked to cope.

I was getting better all the time for awhile there but still have my limits and it seems im falling backwards where I was progressing. Went to my cousins wedding a week or two ago and there was about 200 people. First off that I could be in a room with 200 people for 3 hours period still means im far ahead of where I was(a room with 5 people used to be enough to send me running). But I still spent most of the 3 hours light headed and I almost passed out twice. Still....im falling backwards, last year in a room like that I was able to remove myself for a few mins then come back and be fine for atleast 10 mins....I was just staggering the whole night.

As for names. I personally dont care who gets whos name. However, now with her dad being such an asshole I think she is going to be very happy to shed her name.
 
BTW
I'd like to say a nice fuck YOU to this thread :whistle2:(
I am losing weight (14lbs, FTW thus far) and for the last day or so I have now FIENDED for pizza. F I E N D I N G for pizza is a disgrace :whistle2:(

So yes, fuck you :cry:
 
Magus, you and your wife look very nice together, I'm sure that while your wedding will probably be a memorable day for the both of you, afterwards, what really matters is how you are towards each other. I think you'll do just fine.
 
[quote name='lilboo']BTW
I'd like to say a nice fuck YOU to this thread :whistle2:(
I am losing weight (14lbs, FTW thus far) and for the last day or so I have now FIENDED for pizza. F I E N D I N G for pizza is a disgrace :whistle2:(

So yes, fuck you :cry:[/QUOTE]

Well first off you should just get yourself some pizza. I lost 150 pounds and honestly the best way to do it is to allow yourself your cravings in moderation. Have like 2 slices of pizza but then balance it out by having oatmeal and roasted chicken for your next 2 meals. There are also alot of pizza places that offer pizza that isnt so horribly bad. Pizza hut has a low fat veggie pizza that if I recall you can have 3 slices of a large and its only like 40% of your fat or something like that....ya thats kinda high but when balanced with other low fat meals your still going to be well below your daily alotment.

Second though just to rub it in. Tommorow night im having a cousin and my soon to be brother in law over for a game and pizza night. Gonna have the giant 16 inch tony paco pizza, a supreme pizza and for my neighbor who wont eat either a meatza pizza from little ceasars. And hey whats a party without snacks! So death by chocolate ice cream and Chocolate Cherry Cordial ice cream with a giant side bowl of puppy chow.

Thats right MUAHAHA I am your evil temptress! Seriously though dude, loose the weight just do it in a way where you dont eventually break and gain it all back. Dont eat like I am tommorow but treat yourself to a slice or two. If you were in Ohio id say to drop by for a slice of ours!
 
[quote name='Sarang01'] Judy sounds like your wedding might rock. I mean the Tofu. Are you a Vegan or Vegetarian?
I'm telling ya'll if I ever have a wedding I'm going to be a sneaky shit. It's going to all be Vegan and subtle too. You know it's going to be some foods that are naturally Vegan and other shit snuck in.
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ah but Mapo tofu is not a Vegan dish (Meat + tofu)
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Judy sounds like your wedding might rock. I mean the Tofu. Are you a Vegan or Vegetarian?[/QUOTE]Oh, no way. I'm a major carnivore. I still love tofu and certain veggies tho. Honestly, Chinese banquets are probably not the best place for vegetarians/vegans. Thankfully, I don't think I know any vegetarians coming to the wedding.
[quote name='62t']ah but Mapo tofu is not a Vegan dish (Meat + tofu)[/QUOTE]
But yeah, what 62t said. Minced meat is a major part of the Ma Po Tofu. It's an unattractive, common dish whose name means "pockmarked old lady". The wikipedia entry has an interesting tale, further proving on the point that its a "poor people dish".

I haven't figured out how to deal with the names yet. I consider it a major part of my identity, so I don't think I can give it up. My fiance wants me to take his name. If I can't get away with keeping it, I think I'm going to have to hyphenate or use my maiden name as a middle name. I'm still pretty traditional; I'd definitely would want my children to have my fiance's last name.
 
Two words:

BAGEL BITES.

"Pizza in the morning, Pizza in the evening, Pizza at suppertime!
When Pizza's on a bagel you can eat Pizza ANYTIME! (even at your wedding)"

:lol:
 
Reading things brings back fond memories of my wedding. We had chicken wings as one of our dishes at the reception afterwards. Because as my wife said (with her eyes rolled, and with a sigh of great dismay) "You can't have a bunch of black people together, without having some chicken wings"
 
Well, the reception is in a park, right? It's not like you're serving pizza at the Ritz Carlton or anything... Heck, I wish I could've had pizza at my wedding...(BTW, 150 isn't a large wedding. Mine had over 250 guests and I'm told that's "small" by some people's standards!)
 
[quote name='judyjudyjudy']I haven't figured out how to deal with the names yet. I consider it a major part of my identity, so I don't think I can give it up. My fiance wants me to take his name. If I can't get away with keeping it, I think I'm going to have to hyphenate or use my maiden name as a middle name. I'm still pretty traditional; I'd definitely would want my children to have my fiance's last name.[/quote]

Whenever a see a woman with a hyphenated name, I know it means trouble...
 
[quote name='lilboo']BTW
I'd like to say a nice fuck YOU to this thread :whistle2:(
I am losing weight (14lbs, FTW thus far) and for the last day or so I have now FIENDED for pizza. F I E N D I N G for pizza is a disgrace :whistle2:(

So yes, fuck you :cry:[/QUOTE]
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Go get a slice!! One slice is only 150-300 calories depending on how big it is. You earned it!
 
[quote name='judyjudyjudy']Oh, no way. I'm a major carnivore. I still love tofu and certain veggies tho. Honestly, Chinese banquets are probably not the best place for vegetarians/vegans. Thankfully, I don't think I know any vegetarians coming to the wedding.

But yeah, what 62t said. Minced meat is a major part of the Ma Po Tofu. It's an unattractive, common dish whose name means "pockmarked old lady". The wikipedia entry has an interesting tale, further proving on the point that its a "poor people dish".

I haven't figured out how to deal with the names yet. I consider it a major part of my identity, so I don't think I can give it up. My fiance wants me to take his name. If I can't get away with keeping it, I think I'm going to have to hyphenate or use my maiden name as a middle name. I'm still pretty traditional; I'd definitely would want my children to have my fiance's last name.[/QUOTE]

No biggie keeping your last name. I say kudos. I mean I think the idea of taking the maiden name as the middle is a great idea. I also think he should take your name as well with the middle name. You're both joining, not your absorbing into him. That's what I hate about the chick just taking the name, you're BOTH uniting.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']
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Go get a slice!! One slice is only 150-300 calories depending on how big it is. You earned it![/QUOTE]

:rofl:

I know! If we hit our goals before March, we'll be ordering a pizza to celebrate :)
Then we'll go crazy and throw in 8 dozen breadsticks, 6 liters of pepsi, barrel of wings, and another pizza. SIGH :whistle2:(

Anywho.
 
[quote name='Gameboy415']Two words:

BAGEL BITES.

"Pizza in the morning, Pizza in the evening, Pizza at suppertime!
When Pizza's on a bagel you can eat Pizza ANYTIME! (even at your wedding)"

:lol:[/QUOTE]

Winner.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']There are also alot of pizza places that offer pizza that isnt so horribly bad. Pizza hut has a low fat veggie pizza that if I recall you can have 3 slices of a large and its only like 40% of your fat or something like that....ya thats kinda high but when balanced with other low fat meals your still going to be well below your daily alotment.
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For the record, fat doesn't make you fat. Carbs dont make you fat. Overeating makes you fat.

The easiest way to lose weight is to exercise semi-regularly (get your heart rate up, sweat, get your metabolism going), reduce your caloric intake, and stick to a high protein/low carb diet.

Without carbs your body can't retain tons of water, and it has no cheap source of sugar to make energy out of, so it burns your fat instead. I eat pizza (a few slices) each week and I continue to lose weight on a low carb diet. The hard part is accepting that in order to lose weight you really have to eat lots of little meals during the day. Grazing is a good idea......your body loses much more weight if its always got a little something in the stomach, as opposed to eating 3 large meals a day. The body will burn up what it can use and, yep, store the rest as fat....so try to avoid the 3 large meals......if you have to, make breakfast the big one.

Yes, I am an expert in weddings AND weight loss. :)

PS: Why aren't you working...panic and anxiety is treatable with medication. You probably wouldn't have such a hard time with the parents if you were, you know, employable...and had something to offer their daughter besides companionship.
 
HeadRusch - don't bother. He's not going to change a single thing about him, and as a result, everything that goes wrong is everybody else's fault.

You're not going to reason with a person who's so deep in external attribution for all of his problems that he fails to see his own culpability.

Let him order the pizza - it's his wedding, after all. Let him fuck it up and blame everyone else for it.
 
[quote name='camoor']This thread really brought out the ugly Americans.[/quote]

have you even read the OP's responses to comments? sure, now it's an all out flamefest but before it was like

lurkers: "duders...i don't think pizza is a good idea."
OP: "fuck YOU! america is full of this capitalist globalist bullshit, you can take your brainwashed consumerist notions and fuck off...i'm glad i made this thread, it really showed me how inanely naive and uneducated people remain to this day."

OP might be a great guy in real life, but shit, this is a forum. i'm working with what i got. and what i got is that he's a douche.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']
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ok but goddamn if that isn't an amazing picture.

they really got it right with this character design - cut chin, starry eyes - it's like i'm back in Berlin.
 
[quote name='HeadRusch']For the record, fat doesn't make you fat. Carbs dont make you fat. Overeating makes you fat.

The easiest way to lose weight is to exercise semi-regularly (get your heart rate up, sweat, get your metabolism going), reduce your caloric intake, and stick to a high protein/low carb diet.

Without carbs your body can't retain tons of water, and it has no cheap source of sugar to make energy out of, so it burns your fat instead. I eat pizza (a few slices) each week and I continue to lose weight on a low carb diet. The hard part is accepting that in order to lose weight you really have to eat lots of little meals during the day. Grazing is a good idea......your body loses much more weight if its always got a little something in the stomach, as opposed to eating 3 large meals a day. The body will burn up what it can use and, yep, store the rest as fat....so try to avoid the 3 large meals......if you have to, make breakfast the big one.

Yes, I am an expert in weddings AND weight loss. :)
PS: Why aren't you working...panic and anxiety is treatable with medication. You probably wouldn't have such a hard time with the parents if you were, you know, employable...and had something to offer their daughter besides companionship.[/QUOTE]

Lost 150 pounds. Think I know a little about weight lose. Was just focusing on fat because pizzas fat intake is so high. The truth is that ya carbs are worse for you, and the best thing you can do is lower carb intake while exercising. However far too many people make the mistake of lowering their carb intake just to let their fat intake go through the window which is really unhealthy. Because of that I dont like to tell people hey fat isnt important go ahead and have greesy pizza and wings.

Compltly agree that grazing is the way to go. Whenever I lost the weight I ate 4 or 5 small meals a day vs 3 big meals. Another big key though is water.....seriously drink lots and lots of water. First off people often mistake thirst for hunger, but second off if you drink a bottle of pop its something like 20-30% of the carbs you were supposed to have in a day. People seriously suck down in pop/juice/kool aid what they are supposed to eat in carbs for a day and dont realize it.

And sigh.......I thought you were going to have made it a whole post without an insult. Seriously why do you have to be insulting? I appreciate the advice on the anxiety attacks, but if you just put it more along the lines of "her parents might feel better about your ability to provide finaically wasn't risky" or something vs the only thing you can provide is companionship. You would have made a perfectly appropriate post vs being insulting.

But just to answer your question anyways let me ask you a question. What is more important, someone that provides for you financially or emotionally? Since the start of our relationship iv spent so much time helping and working with this girl and provided for her in so many ways. People have to lean on each other....I just have to lean financially instead of emotionally like most people. Her dad was physically and mentally abusefull to her, a former boyfriend had hit her and she had been raped twice. When I meet her I couldn't even hug her alot of the times without her freaking out. I can understand that her parents would have concerns as do others like her Aunts that care for her about me providing for her financially. But seriously I can just as easily respond to them where were you when her life was falling apart around her? Where were you the last 20 years of her life when she was confused, scared and depressed? In 3 years iv taken their daughter and made her not just happier then ever before....but stable for the first time. Hell I even sent her home to live with her mom for a month at one point and then again later just to make sure first off that being with me was what she wanted but second off that I was indeed what was helping her. Most of me hoped she would run away......it would have killed me...but at the same time maybe she would be normal now and yet find someone that could provide better finacially. But at home she started falling apart again. So ya know people can say what they want, but iv been the only one to nurse her back to good mental health(often at the expense of my own mental health), iv been the one that has built up her ego so she can stand on her own, iv been the one that helped her find her passion in life and iv been the one thats encouraged her and watched her bloom.

Besides that on the financial end they got her into a horrible car loan that cost her $1,000s. No one helped her with her schooling even though they had the money and when she had her numerous health problems no one helped her financially then. Since iv been in her life she has gotten herself proper insurance, payed off $1,000s in debt and is now investing in an IRA. Her friends her age that are with guys that work may be better off in the short run......but I gurantee even with me not working we will do better then anyone else.

So again ya I dont work. But we spend a lifetime teaching people that whats important is the type of person they are. All im doing is living up to that standard. We tell people to live to that standard and then why do most people get divorced? Either because their spouse isnt there for them....we hve went through the hardest times and iv been there so we know that isnt happaning, or because of finacial fights...well we are poor already and have been for years now. If we can survive now we know finances wont break us up later. In 3 years iv turned this girls life around finacially and emotionally. I wish I didn't have to lean on her financially, and I wish I didn't have to lean on her when I have my panic attacks. I feel horrible that any event we go to she spends so much time checking on me vs visiting with people. Its why I went back to college and im going to be going back to see a shrink. I dont think im going to end up finishing at school....but iv fought the panic attacks and went back and tried really hard in hopes of creating a better life for us.

Just to end this horribly long post(sorry so many of my posts are so long, I am a horrible ranter)iv tried the medication and it wasn't really helping. I'm sure there is a type out there that will or a balance of the right medications. But the few I tried messed with my personality really bad and just changed who I was. Iv also seen far too many friends take medication and become a completely different person...and yet be unable to recognize how messed up they are. I dont want this, my family doesnt and my fiancee doesnt. So iv learned to instead live with the panic attacks, I keep hoping ill find work I can do or that ill be able to learn to completely control them(I thought I could a few times and went to look for work just to learn otherwise). Iv learned to control my depressive swings(though I still have days once or twice a year I cant get out of bed)and iv learned to control all my other problems.
 
I really its just easier for you to fall back and live off the state and you don't want to work. You can take college courses online or go to an all online school. There are TONs of places where you can work that you don't have to deal with large crowds. You are using it as a crutch to live off the state, and her parents see this. If people who are deaf, blind, crippled, and mentally challenged can get jobs so can you.
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']I really its just easier for you to fall back and live off the state and you don't want to work. You can take college courses online or go to an all online school. There are TONs of places where you can work that you don't have to deal with large crowds. You are using it as a crutch to live off the state, and her parents see this. If people who are deaf, blind, crippled, and mentally challenged can get jobs so can you.[/QUOTE]

*adds rodeo with myke to the block list* Hopefully headrush can respond politely.

Seriously you dont know me so dont make stupid assuptions. If you read what I said the panic attacks also key up during moments where I feel pressured. For instance I did take online classes and was assigned a large difficult paper. I started work on it and ended up getting really sick....stopped work on it.....started it up and got really sick. Other papers I completed no problem. I also have filled out job applications and freaked out just from the processe of doing that I feel pressured.

Iv spent nights crying(not ashamed to admit it)scared that im just a lazy bastard that doesnt want to work. It terrifies me that im going to die and get a point to reflect back on my life and realize or have God(dont believe in him but dont disbelieve)tell me that I just made up these excuses in my head to not work. Iv had panic attacks and break downs just fighting with myself in my own head if something is actually wrong with me. So fuck you for judging me, the only persons job that is is my own and I give myself enough shit over it thank you very much. Maybe nothing is wrong with me and im a lazy slug....its my worst fear. But ya know most of the time I dont doubt myself because I know that I try and even if it was once true its not anymore. I try to do volunteer work because I dont feel so pressure doing it(and hope ill find a job through doing it one day) Besides even if my worst fear came down to be true and ya I just when I was like 14 took a wrong path and convinced myself I had problems when I didnt...ya know what id rather have committed that sin then be an asshole like you or myke. Better to go to the grave with my sin then the sin of living your life trying to hurt other people.

Dont bother responding you will be on ignore. And myke im sure your still reading every last post and trying to get my goat. Seriously, im too forgiving of a person and iv taken you off block like 3 times.....this time it aint happaning so stop wasting your breath. Seems as I get older people like you are finally starting to make the lesson sink in that some people are just assholes and will never change.
 
:rofl:

rodeojones and headrusch both made suggestions in far kinder ways than I could ever hope to achieve, and MSI immediately writes them off as "insulting" (we seem to have found the one word he can spell correctly) and disregards them.

Thin skinned, external attribution of blame, unwillingness to compromise, unwilling to change for even his own betterment, unnecessarily defensive, and compulsive about trivial things...was I right, or was I right? Who do I send the bill to?
 
[quote name='Sleepkyng']EPIC DRAMA


i'm into it[/QUOTE]

Hehe ya im a pretty dramatic guy. Feel its best just to be compltly honest and upfront, helps you realize who you are. Just like I worked through the whole pizza thing with this topic talking about my fuck ups in life in addition to whats wrong with me sometimes helps me put things in perspective. Sorry it means some of you are forced to sit through violin playing in a war torn back drop.
 
[quote name='myke']:rofl:

rodeojones and headrusch both made suggestions in far kinder ways than I could ever hope to achieve, and MSI immediately writes them off as "insulting" (we seem to have found the one word he can spell correctly) and disregards them.

Thin skinned, external attribution of blame, unwillingness to compromise, unwilling to change for even his own betterment, unnecessarily defensive, and compulsive about trivial things...was I right, or was I right? Who do I send the bill to?[/QUOTE]

MSI is such a little bitch.
Man up. Do the right thing.
Get a job.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Hehe ya im a pretty dramatic guy. Feel its best just to be compltly honest and upfront, helps you realize who you are. Just like I worked through the whole pizza thing with this topic talking about my fuck ups in life in addition to whats wrong with me sometimes helps me put things in perspective. Sorry it means some of you are forced to sit through violin playing in a war torn back drop.[/quote]

There is a lot of good advice man and you're doing your best to ignore it (literally). Just because it requires some hard work on your part doesn't mean people are being mean to you. Man up. Myke has been right in the assertion that you're not willing to add to your own betterment. Don't be like that. What more do you want from us and this thread?
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']What more do you want from us and this thread?[/QUOTE]

Attention. Or at least that's why my clients behave like this.

Rather than seeking out help for his anxiety problems (Behavior modification is always a venue if he's complained about the ills of mediciation), he just stews about it.

I haven't followed the OP's responses since I blocked him years ago, but let me take a wild stab about how his responses have gone.

Everyone is against me. Even those who provided solid enough advice.

I hate mediciation and there's absolutely no way I'm taking it (again). It changes people!

My family and I have come to terms that there's absolutely no way to change me.

I'm happy being just the way I am. (Although, unbeknownst to me, I'm causing a perverted amount of stress on those in my immediate environment.)

Anyone who gives me advice is a jackass and wants me to change into someone else.

That pretty much sums it up.

The funny thing is, and this is what is so bizarre about behavior problems like anxiety, is that people just assume their behavior is normal and any adjustments to it are evil.

This is why I mostly deal with kids. A five year old may still need a diaper change here or there, but at least they are willing to change.
 
Hmmmm...how did I miss this little jewel of a thread?



*Takes seat in the corner with popcorn and soda
 
Not sure if we're still talking about the wedding or not.

Personally, I would have loved to have pizza at the wedding. But, is the wife ok with it. It's ok that you have to cut back on the wedding, but weddings are really built around women, so it's important that she is on board. If the wife thinks it's too tacky, then get something else.

No matter how you do a wedding, it's still expensive (I got out cheap, and it was 4k). So, the last thing you want is something that is going to embarrass your wife in the future. Now, if you really want pizza, you should have it, but have something else too if she isn't comfortable with it.
 
[quote name='terribledeli']Attention. Or at least that's why my clients behave like this.

Rather than seeking out help for his anxiety problems (Behavior modification is always a venue if he's complained about the ills of mediciation), he just stews about it.

I haven't followed the OP's responses since I blocked him years ago, but let me take a wild stab about how his responses have gone.

Everyone is against me. Even those who provided solid enough advice.

I hate mediciation and there's absolutely no way I'm taking it (again). It changes people!

My family and I have come to terms that there's absolutely no way to change me.

I'm happy being just the way I am. (Although, unbeknownst to me, I'm causing a perverted amount of stress on those in my immediate environment.)

Anyone who gives me advice is a jackass and wants me to change into someone else.

That pretty much sums it up.

The funny thing is, and this is what is so bizarre about behavior problems like anxiety, is that people just assume their behavior is normal and any adjustments to it are evil.

This is why I mostly deal with kids. A five year old may still need a diaper change here or there, but at least they are willing to change.[/QUOTE]

You're just, like, a ward of the fascist state, man.

I like the pants-shitting child metaphor. Keep rollin' with that one.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Honestly alot of people like Myke and im guessing yourself(both from your ignorant comment but also because your avatar brings flashbacks of asshole comments)just dont understand something less you go through it. You act like everyone with problems can just get over them when life just isnt that simple. Iv busted my ass trying to correct the problems and all its gotten me is dealing with dicks like you.[/quote]

With all due respect, I haven't said anything that is anything near being an "asshole" or a "dick" to you. Flame me again and I will take it to the mods. Then you can get banned and find another forum to try and seek answers for all your life's problems from.

Why'd you edit your post? I mention being banned from CAG for you malicious, unwarranted attacks on my character and suddenly you edit your post. That's your problem. You know you were in the wrong and you don't have the guts to admit so you hide behind the edit function and run away.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']With all due respect, I haven't said anything that is anything near being an "asshole" to you. Flame me again and I will take it to the mods. Then you can get banned and find another forum to try and seek answers for all your life's problems from.[/QUOTE]


I said I THOUGHT I recalled from the past. But besides that saying "man up your not contributing to your own betterment" when iv listed thing after thing after thing that iv done and time and time again how iv struggled. Thats a pretty asshole thing to say.

Anyways like I said before I would appreciate the mods closing this topic anyways. Im gonna duck out now, say what you want about it. Thanks to people like pittpiza, judyjudy and yes even strell for giving good on topic suggestions. A very big thank you to Sara for recomending the alternative treatments for my panic attacks. Like I said iv tried some before and they did nothing for me, but im always happy for suggestions. If you have specific suggestions for alternative medication im still happy to try them. Im getting pretty desperate since for a long time it seemed like I was getting better but then I hit a wall....and now it seems like im sliding backwards. Honestly even this topic has been enough to make me a little light headed(yes its stupid but even this stresses me out and thus i dont post on message boards often). Like I said im taking off from the topic though so if you do see this and have a specific recommendation for alternative healing im happy to hear it Private message me.

Thanks again everyone
*waves*
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I said I THOUGHT I recalled from the past. But besides that saying "man up your not contributing to your own betterment" when iv listed thing after thing after thing that iv done and time and time again how iv struggled. Thats a pretty asshole thing to say.[/quote]

I'm reporting you to the mods for flaming me again.

[quote name='Rocky Balboa'] Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get it and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain't you! You're better than that![/quote]
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Bah sorry thought this message didnt post so its a double post.[/quote]

Why'd you edit the post? It didn't have anything to do with a double post. Both posts have been reported to the mods.
 
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