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HEROIN..... LOOKIN' GOOD!
My friend overdosed last night.
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Ok OP, I am very sorry about what happened. Somebody about to die is always a serious situation. However don't expect to get her sympathy, because unless she is retarded she knew that doing Heroin was bad for her and she still did it anyway.
But please take this experience to heart and stay away from drugs, ANY drug and tell her to do the same.
But please take this experience to heart and stay away from drugs, ANY drug and tell her to do the same.
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[quote name='PhrostByte']My life is fine. I'm a straight A student and I never miss a day of work. Yes, I do drugs occasionally. So what? As long as I'm responsible why should it matter?[/quote]
Everything is fun and games until someone ODs...
It's a shame you can't have a crystal clear example of what can happen when you use drugs like that... Like, what happens when a friend ODs.
Oh, wait.
[quote name='joeltrae']
Nancy reagan had the right idea, except she should have went further and made the slogan "just say no or else". And at the same time illicit use should have been upgraded to a capital offense.
You are correct, moving violations SHOULD be criminalized. As they stand as civil offenses is far too lenient and not taken seriously by the public at large. I do believe the threat of 50 lashes with a rattan cane as punishment for driving violations would would have the effect of making our highways much safer. And yes, I am 100% in favor of those convicted of drunk driving to be executed also. I will go out on a limb here and say that I believe we would see at least a 50% reduction in drunk driving fatalities in the first year of implementation.[/quote]
That isn't a very compassionate way to look at things. I'm very much against drug use, and I choose not to drink (but I'll go to the bar -- Theres always a DD with me around)... This is because my father had a drug habit until the day he died (ironically, he died because of aprolonged toxic overdose level of a DOCTOR prescribed medication calledSeroquel). My dad might still be alive if not for his roomates, who were high on Meth at the time, and didn't call an ambulance until he had been passed out for who knows how long -- becuase they didn't want to get caught. Because of what my dad was like high -- a totally different, repellant person, I decided I would never use.
When he died, and most of the facts came out surrounding his death, I wanted to see blood. When I cooled down and thought about it, though I was more sad for the roomates that mad at them.
On the one hand, I was very angry once I learned what happend, and I wouldn't have been opposed to seeing them dead like my dad, but in killing someone who makes a monumental mistake like that -- and thats what it is ultimatly was for them: a mistake that may have cost my dad his life -- robs them of the chance to hit rock bottom, LEARN from their mistakes, and change their behavior and become a productive member of society. Then again, my dad's choices to a large degree put him IN the situation to begin with, so much of the blame for his death was on him too.
On one level, I see what you're talking about regarding swift, harsh punishment for crimes, but 'if you
up once, you die' was the law, we'd all be dead eventually. I believe this is the point of the three strikes laws.. if you repeat the same mistakes again and again, you don't show any desire to change, or remorse for one's actions -- those people should be put away because they make a continuing decision to be a persistant danger to society. On the other hand, if an arrogant kid, lets say he just got his licence, drinks and drives then kills someone... the reality of that situation may change their life forever -- I don't think that kid should be killed for his mistake, but absolutly should be punished.
I also believe this is the purpose of a trial, to take each crime based on its merrits, and determine the appropriate punishment based on those circumstances.
Everything is fun and games until someone ODs...
It's a shame you can't have a crystal clear example of what can happen when you use drugs like that... Like, what happens when a friend ODs.
Oh, wait.
[quote name='joeltrae']
Nancy reagan had the right idea, except she should have went further and made the slogan "just say no or else". And at the same time illicit use should have been upgraded to a capital offense.
You are correct, moving violations SHOULD be criminalized. As they stand as civil offenses is far too lenient and not taken seriously by the public at large. I do believe the threat of 50 lashes with a rattan cane as punishment for driving violations would would have the effect of making our highways much safer. And yes, I am 100% in favor of those convicted of drunk driving to be executed also. I will go out on a limb here and say that I believe we would see at least a 50% reduction in drunk driving fatalities in the first year of implementation.[/quote]
That isn't a very compassionate way to look at things. I'm very much against drug use, and I choose not to drink (but I'll go to the bar -- Theres always a DD with me around)... This is because my father had a drug habit until the day he died (ironically, he died because of aprolonged toxic overdose level of a DOCTOR prescribed medication calledSeroquel). My dad might still be alive if not for his roomates, who were high on Meth at the time, and didn't call an ambulance until he had been passed out for who knows how long -- becuase they didn't want to get caught. Because of what my dad was like high -- a totally different, repellant person, I decided I would never use.
When he died, and most of the facts came out surrounding his death, I wanted to see blood. When I cooled down and thought about it, though I was more sad for the roomates that mad at them.
On the one hand, I was very angry once I learned what happend, and I wouldn't have been opposed to seeing them dead like my dad, but in killing someone who makes a monumental mistake like that -- and thats what it is ultimatly was for them: a mistake that may have cost my dad his life -- robs them of the chance to hit rock bottom, LEARN from their mistakes, and change their behavior and become a productive member of society. Then again, my dad's choices to a large degree put him IN the situation to begin with, so much of the blame for his death was on him too.
On one level, I see what you're talking about regarding swift, harsh punishment for crimes, but 'if you
up once, you die' was the law, we'd all be dead eventually. I believe this is the point of the three strikes laws.. if you repeat the same mistakes again and again, you don't show any desire to change, or remorse for one's actions -- those people should be put away because they make a continuing decision to be a persistant danger to society. On the other hand, if an arrogant kid, lets say he just got his licence, drinks and drives then kills someone... the reality of that situation may change their life forever -- I don't think that kid should be killed for his mistake, but absolutly should be punished.I also believe this is the purpose of a trial, to take each crime based on its merrits, and determine the appropriate punishment based on those circumstances.
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[quote name='PhrostByte']No.. you're absolutely right. But this is her problem... If it's going to occur again, then I might have to cut her off... but that's just the way it is. Hopefully, it's just an isolated incident that I unfortunately had to deal with... That's ok to me. People make mistakes. I've forgiven her. She'll either repay me by not doing dumb shit like this again... or I'll have one less friend.[/quote]
But if you do cut her off - PM me her e-mail address.
I've got access to a three legged donkey, a skin fleshed water hose, and Pokemon band-aids. I think we can make some crazy things happen on a cold winter night with the right amount of heroin. Trainspotting will have nothing on us!
You know I'm right.
But if you do cut her off - PM me her e-mail address.
I've got access to a three legged donkey, a skin fleshed water hose, and Pokemon band-aids. I think we can make some crazy things happen on a cold winter night with the right amount of heroin. Trainspotting will have nothing on us!
You know I'm right.
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I'm sure you never underage drank or sped in a car before. Oh noez! Execute![/quote]I can honestly say I've never done any of these :lol:
I'm sure you never underage drank or sped in a car before. Oh noez! Execute![/quote]I can honestly say I've never done any of these :lol:
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Holy crap, this thread got at least 10 times better overnight.
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[quote name='Greetard']You'd like to think that I have some brooding hatred for you over a message board post, wouldn't ya? But, sadly, no, that's not the case. What you said to that other guy did remind me of that instance, but then it reminded me of a crapload more situations where:
Apossum: *Insult*
Other Poster: Hey asshole.
Apossum: Can't take a joke? Internet. Serious Business.
I've got a steel trap, my friend, and don't have trouble remembering stupid shit like this.[/QUOTE]
nah, I think you're just remembering your own situation and then imagining that I do that all the time. I do insult people when they deserve it and I joke around with those who I know on the board, but I don't normally pull that on people who are minding their own business/not being an idiot. Plus, I usually own up to when I'm being a blatant asshole without a cause, except when the person responds like they have 10 tons of dynamite up their ass. So I guess I never felt any remorse for pissing you off? I can see why.
Apossum: *Insult*
Other Poster: Hey asshole.
Apossum: Can't take a joke? Internet. Serious Business.
I've got a steel trap, my friend, and don't have trouble remembering stupid shit like this.[/QUOTE]
nah, I think you're just remembering your own situation and then imagining that I do that all the time. I do insult people when they deserve it and I joke around with those who I know on the board, but I don't normally pull that on people who are minding their own business/not being an idiot. Plus, I usually own up to when I'm being a blatant asshole without a cause, except when the person responds like they have 10 tons of dynamite up their ass. So I guess I never felt any remorse for pissing you off? I can see why.
[quote name='Blitz']Amen. I don't give a about junkies. Round them up and put one in their head for all I care. It will save quite a few people of a lot of grief.[/QUOTE]
man reading what some people think about this topic makes me want to puke
but WHAT THE HELL
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
now back to the point. back in high school these are the only people i hung around with . sluts , pimps and drug takers.
i love how people think that drinking isnt that bad and that people who do drugs are losers and blah blah blah
i have lost too many friend in high school and since to keep count. Now before you ask i will admit that i have never taken drugs cause i have seen what it does too to many people have lost way too many people to do them
before you past judgement you should know how hard it is to quit taking them. I knew people who lost a brother or sister to drugs and continued cause they just couldnt stop taking the drugs
to the OP im glad you friend pulled though and hopefully this will be her wake up call. Sadly most people never get a second chance like your friend is getting. Remember take it one day at a time and if you think NOthing will ever get better Just remember that it will. Also remembers if something happens and she does it again and dies
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT
i lost a real good friend around 10 years ago and i still think about her everyday. Funny thing is i just had a dream about her last night about the good times we used to have in middle school and high school. no matter how many times she tried to quit she just couldnt and she just kept going back to the drugs.
remember dont give a flying #$#$# what other people call you just tell them to go #$#$#$ off.
best of luck to you and your friend. Hopefully you two will make it though and still be around 10 years from now and laugh about it
whateever you do , do not just walk away from them. Try to give them the support they need. Hell if you walk away from them they might just decide
hell if they dont want to be around me noone does and end it
this is the time when they need you the most be there for them. and being there for them doesnt mean you have to do drugs with them just be there when they need a friend
about junkies. Round them up and put one in their head for all I care. It will save quite a few people of a lot of grief.[/QUOTE]man reading what some people think about this topic makes me want to puke
but WHAT THE HELL
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
now back to the point. back in high school these are the only people i hung around with . sluts , pimps and drug takers.
i love how people think that drinking isnt that bad and that people who do drugs are losers and blah blah blah
i have lost too many friend in high school and since to keep count. Now before you ask i will admit that i have never taken drugs cause i have seen what it does too to many people have lost way too many people to do them
before you past judgement you should know how hard it is to quit taking them. I knew people who lost a brother or sister to drugs and continued cause they just couldnt stop taking the drugs
to the OP im glad you friend pulled though and hopefully this will be her wake up call. Sadly most people never get a second chance like your friend is getting. Remember take it one day at a time and if you think NOthing will ever get better Just remember that it will. Also remembers if something happens and she does it again and dies
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT
i lost a real good friend around 10 years ago and i still think about her everyday. Funny thing is i just had a dream about her last night about the good times we used to have in middle school and high school. no matter how many times she tried to quit she just couldnt and she just kept going back to the drugs.
remember dont give a flying #$#$# what other people call you just tell them to go #$#$#$ off.
best of luck to you and your friend. Hopefully you two will make it though and still be around 10 years from now and laugh about it
whateever you do , do not just walk away from them. Try to give them the support they need. Hell if you walk away from them they might just decide
hell if they dont want to be around me noone does and end it
this is the time when they need you the most be there for them. and being there for them doesnt mean you have to do drugs with them just be there when they need a friend
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[quote name='BattleChicken']
On one level, I see what you're talking about regarding swift, harsh punishment for crimes, but 'if you up once, you die' was the law, we'd all be dead eventually. I believe this is the point of the three strikes laws.. if you repeat the same mistakes again and again, you don't show any desire to change, or remorse for one's actions -- those people should be put away because they make a continuing decision to be a persistant danger to society. On the other hand, if an arrogant kid, lets say he just got his licence, drinks and drives then kills someone... the reality of that situation may change their life forever -- I don't think that kid should be killed for his mistake, but absolutly should be punished.
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I agree with this 100%. The problem is that a lot of drug users don't want to change or get better.
IMO if you kill someone you go away for life PERIOD. Unless it was self-defense. You know when you drink and drive you have that chance of killing someone. If you do, see ya. There was a guy here in Vegas two or three years ago who hit and killed somebody. The guy had been arrested for D&D 11ing times before that. He had actually hit someone before that and yet he still served NO JAIL TIME until he killed that last person.
Those are the type of people that should be taken out back and shot. I have no problems with trying to help people. But the problem becomes when is enough enough?
On one level, I see what you're talking about regarding swift, harsh punishment for crimes, but 'if you
up once, you die' was the law, we'd all be dead eventually. I believe this is the point of the three strikes laws.. if you repeat the same mistakes again and again, you don't show any desire to change, or remorse for one's actions -- those people should be put away because they make a continuing decision to be a persistant danger to society. On the other hand, if an arrogant kid, lets say he just got his licence, drinks and drives then kills someone... the reality of that situation may change their life forever -- I don't think that kid should be killed for his mistake, but absolutly should be punished.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this 100%. The problem is that a lot of drug users don't want to change or get better.
IMO if you kill someone you go away for life PERIOD. Unless it was self-defense. You know when you drink and drive you have that chance of killing someone. If you do, see ya. There was a guy here in Vegas two or three years ago who hit and killed somebody. The guy had been arrested for D&D 11
ing times before that. He had actually hit someone before that and yet he still served NO JAIL TIME until he killed that last person.Those are the type of people that should be taken out back and shot. I have no problems with trying to help people. But the problem becomes when is enough enough?
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[quote name='slidecage']man reading what some people think about this topic makes me want to puke
but WHAT THE HELL
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
[/QUOTE]
I don't see the trend of fat men going out and robbing people so they can supply their habit. You don't see a guy from the food store come over and kill your whole family because chubby didn't pay for his bacon.
I don't see gay men going out and holding people up so they can them up the ass and give them AIDS.
Being fat, having AIDS and having a kid are not against the law so your logic is flawed. Look at where you get your food and look at where the drugs come from.
People know what drugs will do to them before they put them into their bodies so I say screw them. I have been down this road with my sister a million times before. She's a druggie and it's her own fault. I don't and will not feel sorry for her.
but WHAT THE HELL
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
[/QUOTE]
I don't see the trend of fat men going out and robbing people so they can supply their habit. You don't see a guy from the food store come over and kill your whole family because chubby didn't pay for his bacon.
I don't see gay men going out and holding people up so they can
them up the ass and give them AIDS.Being fat, having AIDS and having a kid are not against the law so your logic is flawed. Look at where you get your food and look at where the drugs come from.
People know what drugs will do to them before they put them into their bodies so I say screw them. I have been down this road with my sister a million times before. She's a druggie and it's her own fault. I don't and will not feel sorry for her.
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[quote name='slidecage']
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
[/QUOTE]
LISTEN TO THIS MAN! He has the solution for almost all the world's problems!
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
[/QUOTE]
LISTEN TO THIS MAN! He has the solution for almost all the world's problems!
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[quote name='slidecage']man reading what some people think about this topic makes me want to puke
but WHAT THE HELL
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
[/quote]
Why do you always type like a dubbed kung-fu movie?
but WHAT THE HELL
if you want to go this way then yets round up all the fat SOBS and shot them cause you know they are going to have a heart attack and jack up the system
Lets round up all the gay people cause they could give you aids
lets round up all the women who want to have a child cause They are just pushing another mouth to feed into this world and we dont have enough food now for everyone .
[/quote]
Why do you always type like a dubbed kung-fu movie?
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[quote name='GuilewasNK']Why do you always type like a dubbed kung-fu movie?[/QUOTE]
and here I was thinking there was no possible way to describe the way he types to anyone.
and here I was thinking there was no possible way to describe the way he types to anyone.
coltyhuxx
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[quote name='joeltrae']Actually there is some truth to what you say. And it is also true that if a drunk driver is executed, that drunk driver will not reoffend. So, it does DETER people from reoffending. That is good enough for me.
And yes, I do believe America to be extremely lax when it comes to punishing and deterring criminal behavior. Very soon or at least within my lifetime, I hope to see convicted shoplifters have BOTH of their hands amputated to help DETER them from reoffending.
The fact is, at this point in America's history, it's citizens have proven they are an unruly lot, not to be trusted to behave in a civil manner. Illicit drug use rates and other crime rates in America show that it's citizens need to be monitored and shown the correct way of behaving using much harsher methods than are implemented by today's government.
As I speak the first orders of business I lobby for is cameras on every streetcorner in America linking locally, and with a central federal database. Secondly, I am lobbying with some success a push for mandatory random drug testing of ALL citizens. At this juncture a positive test result will not be a capital offense, but with some luck that will come in the near future. This will have many positive impacts one of which would be to identify those who may resist future legislation.
These will be the first small steps to making America strong and restoring it to it's status as greatest country on earth.[/quote]
Your postings are shaping up to be very ironic - as you are beginning to sound like the scum of the earth.
And yes, I do believe America to be extremely lax when it comes to punishing and deterring criminal behavior. Very soon or at least within my lifetime, I hope to see convicted shoplifters have BOTH of their hands amputated to help DETER them from reoffending.
The fact is, at this point in America's history, it's citizens have proven they are an unruly lot, not to be trusted to behave in a civil manner. Illicit drug use rates and other crime rates in America show that it's citizens need to be monitored and shown the correct way of behaving using much harsher methods than are implemented by today's government.
As I speak the first orders of business I lobby for is cameras on every streetcorner in America linking locally, and with a central federal database. Secondly, I am lobbying with some success a push for mandatory random drug testing of ALL citizens. At this juncture a positive test result will not be a capital offense, but with some luck that will come in the near future. This will have many positive impacts one of which would be to identify those who may resist future legislation.
These will be the first small steps to making America strong and restoring it to it's status as greatest country on earth.[/quote]
Your postings are shaping up to be very ironic - as you are beginning to sound like the scum of the earth.
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Wow, what an extremely interesting thread. I still can't decide if the OP's story is even true, and if he actually beleives the oppressive police state is good.
If you are just full of shit: off. This douche could be laughing his ass off at how many people are taking him seriously.
If you are serious: off as to your 1984 utopian state and sorry to hear about your problems. I can pretty much gurantee you that hanging around with your user buddies is no way to stay clean. Your first mistake OP was trying to defend using. Attempting to defend use of a drug (even ones that should not be illegal) only makes you sound like an addict so don't do it. What do you think about freedom, due process, civil rights or liberty OP, do these concepts interest you at all?
Heroin is someed up shit. Call it heroin for clarity's sake and not "drugs" because some drugs are good. Some of them are even legal and there are some others that are not but should be.
If you are just full of shit:
off. This douche could be laughing his ass off at how many people are taking him seriously. If you are serious:
off as to your 1984 utopian state and sorry to hear about your problems. I can pretty much gurantee you that hanging around with your user buddies is no way to stay clean. Your first mistake OP was trying to defend using. Attempting to defend use of a drug (even ones that should not be illegal) only makes you sound like an addict so don't do it. What do you think about freedom, due process, civil rights or liberty OP, do these concepts interest you at all?Heroin is some
ed up shit. Call it heroin for clarity's sake and not "drugs" because some drugs are good. Some of them are even legal and there are some others that are not but should be.
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I disagree with the black and white statement that no good can come from any drug experience. (Musically speaking you better not like The Doors, Rolling Stones -- I'll wager a shit-ton of some of you hecklers/haters probably have posters and CD's of these people you damn straight to hell-- and it would certainly be a touch hypocritical or ignorant to have Alkaline Trio as your avatar if you really are loathe toward drugs 
-- I kid, not trying to pick a fight.)
I could give many examples of many different drugs in my life history, but since many of you guys seem to be swinging the pendulum toward Cheap Asshole Gamers in this thread I'll use a more socially acceptable one. Now, I hardly smoke weed anymore these days, for several reasons but a month ago I got high with a friend and we played vids and ended up being in complete hysterics. I guess I was desperate for scene points. Now, of course, you can have a great time without chemicals -- if you can't, you lead a sad life. But adding a little THC in the mix brought down walls -- maybe you could argue that society helps contribute toward in making people so damn serious all the time. I laughed so much and so hard that I actually felt great when I went to bed and great the next day. The next day I went for a bike ride and had a smoothie and a salad for lunch. Is anyone here going to argue that I have incurred health problems, or harmed anyone... -- f**k anything-- from (IMO) responsible usage here?
In the above instance, I consider the usage to be unwinding relaxation tool and I think I brought something positive with me back to my regular state (which is sober).
-- I kid, not trying to pick a fight.)I could give many examples of many different drugs in my life history, but since many of you guys seem to be swinging the pendulum toward Cheap Asshole Gamers in this thread I'll use a more socially acceptable one. Now, I hardly smoke weed anymore these days, for several reasons but a month ago I got high with a friend and we played vids and ended up being in complete hysterics. I guess I was desperate for scene points. Now, of course, you can have a great time without chemicals -- if you can't, you lead a sad life. But adding a little THC in the mix brought down walls -- maybe you could argue that society helps contribute toward in making people so damn serious all the time. I laughed so much and so hard that I actually felt great when I went to bed and great the next day. The next day I went for a bike ride and had a smoothie and a salad for lunch. Is anyone here going to argue that I have incurred health problems, or harmed anyone... -- f**k anything-- from (IMO) responsible usage here?
In the above instance, I consider the usage to be unwinding relaxation tool and I think I brought something positive with me back to my regular state (which is sober).
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I'll offer a great big "LOL" to your feigned outrage towards so many "black and white" statements, and refuted by your reduction of "hey, heroin can in' kill ya - just look at your own story in the OP" to "I had a good time on weed."
in' kill ya - just look at your own story in the OP" to "I had a good time on weed."
coltyhuxx
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[quote name='mykevermin']I'll offer a great big "LOL" to your feigned outrage towards so many "black and white" statements, and refuted by your reduction of "hey, heroin can in' kill ya - just look at your own story in the OP" to "I had a good time on weed."[/quote]
Outrage? Hardly. Did I really come across that way? Damn you internet! I'm not comparing weed to heroin. I was responding to some (I feel) fairly insane admonishment, that I think could best be summed up as black-and-white, coming from CAG's.
in' kill ya - just look at your own story in the OP" to "I had a good time on weed."[/quote]Outrage? Hardly. Did I really come across that way? Damn you internet! I'm not comparing weed to heroin. I was responding to some (I feel) fairly insane admonishment, that I think could best be summed up as black-and-white, coming from CAG's.
Punk_Raven
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I got some lulz from the guy who said that legalizing drugs would be good.
That seems like something that can only come out of the mouth of a drug abuser. I do not support the " lets put substances in our body to make us feel better" idea at all. Hey kids, setting goals and trying to be something in life, you can go to the pharmacy and pick up so heroin. That'll make ya feel real good no matter what! The more ya do the better ya feel! FDA approved, too. Only 100 dollars a ( whatever unit that heroin is sold in ).
That seems like something that can only come out of the mouth of a drug abuser. I do not support the " lets put substances in our body to make us feel better" idea at all. Hey kids,
setting goals and trying to be something in life, you can go to the pharmacy and pick up so heroin. That'll make ya feel real good no matter what! The more ya do the better ya feel! FDA approved, too. Only 100 dollars a ( whatever unit that heroin is sold in ).
Zenithian Legend
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[quote name='Greetard']How fun! False accusations from a message board reject...using unfunny, overused, and entirely unoriginal insults to boot!
Not unlike using bestiality references in a signature, or calling people "retarded" when they disagree with 'em. Tell me, how does one get by without a semblance of intelligence or creativity? I can only assume that they'd drink themselves stupid.[/quote]
Ok, I've got to admit that's actually funny. The part about you getting all defensive for the "false accusations" I mean that's nothing like assuming I'm an alcoholic because I drank a lot in college? The same attack you dive into again... well you want to make pointless personal attacks, fine, I give you exhibit A:
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exhibit B:
I now challenge you (or anyone else) to point out the differences between the two photos.
Not unlike using bestiality references in a signature, or calling people "retarded" when they disagree with 'em. Tell me, how does one get by without a semblance of intelligence or creativity? I can only assume that they'd drink themselves stupid.[/quote]
Ok, I've got to admit that's actually funny. The part about you getting all defensive for the "false accusations" I mean that's nothing like assuming I'm an alcoholic because I drank a lot in college? The same attack you dive into again... well you want to make pointless personal attacks, fine, I give you exhibit A:
and
exhibit B:
I now challenge you (or anyone else) to point out the differences between the two photos.
coltyhuxx
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[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Ok, I've got to admit that's actually funny. The part about you getting all defensive for the "false accusations" I mean that's nothing like assuming I'm an alcoholic because I drank a lot in college? The same attack you dive into again... well you want to make pointless personal attacks, fine, I give you exhibit A:
and
exhibit B:
I now challenge you (or anyone else) to point out the differences between the two photos.[/quote]
What happened to this Fellowship? Seein' some man bloat and some wrinkles there. Now THIS is a case against drug use.
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exhibit B:
I now challenge you (or anyone else) to point out the differences between the two photos.[/quote]
What happened to this Fellowship? Seein' some man bloat and some wrinkles there. Now THIS is a case against drug use.
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Ok, I've got to admit that's actually funny. The part about you getting all defensive for the "false accusations" I mean that's nothing like assuming I'm an alcoholic because I drank a lot in college? The same attack you dive into again... well you want to make pointless personal attacks, fine, I give you exhibit A:
and
exhibit B:
I now challenge you (or anyone else) to point out the differences between the two photos.[/QUOTE]
Hot dayum, Exhibit A is sexy- this thread needed a little prettyin' up.
So, a dude who hides behind a horse moniker thinks I look like a hobbit? Woe is me- I'll never show my face again.
Your hell-bent, alcoholic rants are well documented on this site, as are your own damn confessions of alcoholism. Oh how I wish I had the patience to dig through your old posts and make a fool of you, but you're loathed 'round these parts as is, so it really wouldn't be worth my time to prove you wrong anyway.
and
exhibit B:
I now challenge you (or anyone else) to point out the differences between the two photos.[/QUOTE]
Hot dayum, Exhibit A is sexy- this thread needed a little prettyin' up.
Oh Noez!
So, a dude who hides behind a horse moniker thinks I look like a hobbit? Woe is me- I'll never show my face again.
Your hell-bent, alcoholic rants are well documented on this site, as are your own damn confessions of alcoholism. Oh how I wish I had the patience to dig through your old posts and make a fool of you, but you're loathed 'round these parts as is, so it really wouldn't be worth my time to prove you wrong anyway.
[quote name='Greetard']Hot dayum, Exhibit A is sexy- this thread needed a little prettyin' up.
So, a dude who hides behind a horse moniker thinks I look like a hobbit? Woe is me- I'll never show my face again.
Your hell-bent, alcoholic rants are well documented on this site, as are your own damn confessions of alcoholism. Oh how I wish I had the patience to dig through your old posts and make a fool of you, but you're loathed 'round these parts as is, so it really wouldn't be worth my time to prove you wrong anyway.[/QUOTE]
I thought the general rule was that you're not allowed to make fun of anyone's picture unless you actually have the stones to post your own picture? Unless of course its someone on the level of DragonLordFrodo, in which case even that dude from Silence of the Lambs can rip on him.
Oh Noez!
So, a dude who hides behind a horse moniker thinks I look like a hobbit? Woe is me- I'll never show my face again.
Your hell-bent, alcoholic rants are well documented on this site, as are your own damn confessions of alcoholism. Oh how I wish I had the patience to dig through your old posts and make a fool of you, but you're loathed 'round these parts as is, so it really wouldn't be worth my time to prove you wrong anyway.[/QUOTE]
I thought the general rule was that you're not allowed to make fun of anyone's picture unless you actually have the stones to post your own picture? Unless of course its someone on the level of DragonLordFrodo, in which case even that dude from Silence of the Lambs can rip on him.
pittpizza
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Yeah I posted my picture and i am pretty sure Zen Davis or Zen legend posted it as an example of inbreeding. It was some goofy pic of me making a wierd face, i wasnt even smiling. Dick.
Anyway back to talking about drugs. Marijuana should be completely decriminalized in my opinion. This is a perfect example of one of those situation Abe Lincoln used to talk about when a government oversteps its bounds and take would should be a *od given right and freedom and makes it illegal because of racist, xenophobic reasons. Thein thing is a plant that naturally grows on the ground. You see any heroin plants lying around?
If you think I am lying about racist motives look into it yourself, Marijuana was outlawed as a proxy to jail/discriminate/repress/ mexicans and blacks and other minorities who used it. For a modern example look at the difference in the criminal code in treatment of cocaine (a predominantly caucasion drug) and crack (a predominantly african american drug).
Heroin on the other hand is a completely different issue. Why? Look at the effects of heroin, and what happens to the people who use it compared to hte effects of marijuana and what happens to people who use it. Not what happens in terms of the justice system, what happens in terms of what it actually does physically to the person who uses it.
Plus many countries with much more liberal drug laws are doing just fine, look at the netherlands and canada and thier crime rates and how much they spend per year on those incarcerated for drug crimes.
I'm not even going to go into the fact that alcohol is legal and weed is not. WHo would you rather deal with, a drunk or someone who is high? Also the gov. could make as much as or more than they do now on the Marijuana tax they could impose with the infrastrucure in place from taxing tobacco. We could even call it something cathy like the Wacky Tobaccy Tax!
Anyway back to talking about drugs. Marijuana should be completely decriminalized in my opinion. This is a perfect example of one of those situation Abe Lincoln used to talk about when a government oversteps its bounds and take would should be a *od given right and freedom and makes it illegal because of racist, xenophobic reasons. The
in thing is a plant that naturally grows on the ground. You see any heroin plants lying around?If you think I am lying about racist motives look into it yourself, Marijuana was outlawed as a proxy to jail/discriminate/repress/
mexicans and blacks and other minorities who used it. For a modern example look at the difference in the criminal code in treatment of cocaine (a predominantly caucasion drug) and crack (a predominantly african american drug). Heroin on the other hand is a completely different issue. Why? Look at the effects of heroin, and what happens to the people who use it compared to hte effects of marijuana and what happens to people who use it. Not what happens in terms of the justice system, what happens in terms of what it actually does physically to the person who uses it.
Plus many countries with much more liberal drug laws are doing just fine, look at the netherlands and canada and thier crime rates and how much they spend per year on those incarcerated for drug crimes.
I'm not even going to go into the fact that alcohol is legal and weed is not. WHo would you rather deal with, a drunk or someone who is high? Also the gov. could make as much as or more than they do now on the Marijuana tax they could impose with the infrastrucure in place from taxing tobacco. We could even call it something cathy like the Wacky Tobaccy Tax!
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The biggest problem that I have with pot, aside from the jackass my dad and old friends of mine became when they smoked, is that whenever my old neighbors smoked it, I had to deal with the strong smell throughout my apartment -- and that isn't fair.
With booze, you usually have to be pretty close to smell it, with pot, in my experience, you just have to be on the same block.
I personally would have a lot less of a problem with people illegally using pot if I didn't have to smell the shit when someone on the other side of my building decides to light up. I *would* respect their right to pollute their bodies in the same way as a cig smoker -- a smoker's right to smoke shouldn't encroach on MY right to NOT be surrounded by it in my own home.
The most important difference between a cig and pot to me is that a cig doesn't alter your mental state like pot does -- I once or twice got a contact high from just being in MY house in the Winter, (I live in MN, cold winters), because of the amount of the stuff my neighbors smoked (shared ventilation). Where was my choice to NOT get high in that situation? Is it reasonable for me to have to leave MY home because of what my neighbors do without regard for anyone else?
Legalizing pot would inevitably force people who choose NOT to use pot to be adversely affected BY pot -- It IS a drug that makes you high by inhaling the smoke! -- for that reason, I don't think it will EVER become legal. If you come up with a realistic way for me (collective me) to be unaffected by the legalization of a smelly smoked drug that I don't want to smell or be affected by, I'll reconsider my position.
[quote name='pittpizza']Yeah I posted my picture and i am pretty sure Zen Davis or Zen legend posted it as an example of inbreeding. It was some goofy pic of me making a wierd face, i wasnt even smiling. Dick.
Anyway back to talking about drugs. Marijuana should be completely decriminalized in my opinion. This is a perfect example of one of those situation Abe Lincoln used to talk about when a government oversteps its bounds and take would should be a *od given right and freedom and makes it illegal because of racist, xenophobic reasons. Thein thing is a plant that naturally grows on the ground. You see any heroin plants lying around?
If you think I am lying about racist motives look into it yourself, Marijuana was outlawed as a proxy to jail/discriminate/repress/ mexicans and blacks and other minorities who used it. For a modern example look at the difference in the criminal code in treatment of cocaine (a predominantly caucasion drug) and crack (a predominantly african american drug).
Heroin on the other hand is a completely different issue. Why? Look at the effects of heroin, and what happens to the people who use it compared to hte effects of marijuana and what happens to people who use it. Not what happens in terms of the justice system, what happens in terms of what it actually does physically to the person who uses it.
Plus many countries with much more liberal drug laws are doing just fine, look at the netherlands and canada and thier crime rates and how much they spend per year on those incarcerated for drug crimes.
I'm not even going to go into the fact that alcohol is legal and weed is not. WHo would you rather deal with, a drunk or someone who is high? Also the gov. could make as much as or more than they do now on the Marijuana tax they could impose with the infrastrucure in place from taxing tobacco. We could even call it something cathy like the Wacky Tobaccy Tax![/quote]
With booze, you usually have to be pretty close to smell it, with pot, in my experience, you just have to be on the same block.
I personally would have a lot less of a problem with people illegally using pot if I didn't have to smell the shit when someone on the other side of my building decides to light up. I *would* respect their right to pollute their bodies in the same way as a cig smoker -- a smoker's right to smoke shouldn't encroach on MY right to NOT be surrounded by it in my own home.
The most important difference between a cig and pot to me is that a cig doesn't alter your mental state like pot does -- I once or twice got a contact high from just being in MY house in the Winter, (I live in MN, cold winters), because of the amount of the stuff my neighbors smoked (shared ventilation). Where was my choice to NOT get high in that situation? Is it reasonable for me to have to leave MY home because of what my neighbors do without regard for anyone else?
Legalizing pot would inevitably force people who choose NOT to use pot to be adversely affected BY pot -- It IS a drug that makes you high by inhaling the smoke! -- for that reason, I don't think it will EVER become legal. If you come up with a realistic way for me (collective me) to be unaffected by the legalization of a smelly smoked drug that I don't want to smell or be affected by, I'll reconsider my position.
[quote name='pittpizza']Yeah I posted my picture and i am pretty sure Zen Davis or Zen legend posted it as an example of inbreeding. It was some goofy pic of me making a wierd face, i wasnt even smiling. Dick.
Anyway back to talking about drugs. Marijuana should be completely decriminalized in my opinion. This is a perfect example of one of those situation Abe Lincoln used to talk about when a government oversteps its bounds and take would should be a *od given right and freedom and makes it illegal because of racist, xenophobic reasons. The
in thing is a plant that naturally grows on the ground. You see any heroin plants lying around?If you think I am lying about racist motives look into it yourself, Marijuana was outlawed as a proxy to jail/discriminate/repress/
mexicans and blacks and other minorities who used it. For a modern example look at the difference in the criminal code in treatment of cocaine (a predominantly caucasion drug) and crack (a predominantly african american drug). Heroin on the other hand is a completely different issue. Why? Look at the effects of heroin, and what happens to the people who use it compared to hte effects of marijuana and what happens to people who use it. Not what happens in terms of the justice system, what happens in terms of what it actually does physically to the person who uses it.
Plus many countries with much more liberal drug laws are doing just fine, look at the netherlands and canada and thier crime rates and how much they spend per year on those incarcerated for drug crimes.
I'm not even going to go into the fact that alcohol is legal and weed is not. WHo would you rather deal with, a drunk or someone who is high? Also the gov. could make as much as or more than they do now on the Marijuana tax they could impose with the infrastrucure in place from taxing tobacco. We could even call it something cathy like the Wacky Tobaccy Tax![/quote]
Zenithian Legend
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[quote name='Greetard']Hot dayum, Exhibit A is sexy- this thread needed a little prettyin' up.
So, a dude who hides behind a horse moniker thinks I look like a hobbit? Woe is me- I'll never show my face again.
Your hell-bent, alcoholic rants are well documented on this site, as are your own damn confessions of alcoholism. Oh how I wish I had the patience to dig through your old posts and make a fool of you, but you're loathed 'round these parts as is, so it really wouldn't be worth my time to prove you wrong anyway.[/quote]
Loathed by what? Frodo? And I see the nascar guy? Please... your constant "your an alcoholic" posts just show how weak minded you really are. I was never an alcoholic, I was a college student. I've since graduated, got a real job, and drink at most two weekends a month with friends. Conversely an alcoholic is someone who drinks because they needs the alcohol in their system to get through the day, someone who drinks alone, and is spending their sober moments thinking of when they're going to get their next drink. That wasn't even my mentality in college, it was more of a when is the next party, and who wants to have some fun. How would I have graduated on time otherwise? I'd place a small wager you either didn't go to college, went and left because you didn't fit in, or went to some sorry ass community college. Lighten up, little hobbit, it'll do you some good. Reading through this thread it's pretty obvious you're the one with the problem now, picking fights with the OP and then every other poster that disagrees with you.
Oh Noez!
So, a dude who hides behind a horse moniker thinks I look like a hobbit? Woe is me- I'll never show my face again.
Your hell-bent, alcoholic rants are well documented on this site, as are your own damn confessions of alcoholism. Oh how I wish I had the patience to dig through your old posts and make a fool of you, but you're loathed 'round these parts as is, so it really wouldn't be worth my time to prove you wrong anyway.[/quote]
Loathed by what? Frodo? And I see the nascar guy? Please... your constant "your an alcoholic" posts just show how weak minded you really are. I was never an alcoholic, I was a college student. I've since graduated, got a real job, and drink at most two weekends a month with friends. Conversely an alcoholic is someone who drinks because they needs the alcohol in their system to get through the day, someone who drinks alone, and is spending their sober moments thinking of when they're going to get their next drink. That wasn't even my mentality in college, it was more of a when is the next party, and who wants to have some fun. How would I have graduated on time otherwise? I'd place a small wager you either didn't go to college, went and left because you didn't fit in, or went to some sorry ass community college. Lighten up, little hobbit, it'll do you some good. Reading through this thread it's pretty obvious you're the one with the problem now, picking fights with the OP and then every other poster that disagrees with you.
Punk_Raven
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Not this shit again.
BattleChicken
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[quote name='Punk_Raven']Not this shit again.[/quote]
errr.. sorry...?
errr.. sorry...?
Punk_Raven
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[quote name='BattleChicken']errr.. sorry...?[/quote]
You didn't mean it when you *said* that. *Say* it like you mean it.
You didn't mean it when you *said* that. *Say* it like you mean it.
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Loathed by what? Frodo? And I see the nascar guy? Please... your constant "your an alcoholic" posts just show how weak minded you really are. I was never an alcoholic, I was a college student. I've since graduated, got a real job, and drink at most two weekends a month with friends. Conversely an alcoholic is someone who drinks because they needs the alcohol in their system to get through the day, someone who drinks alone, and is spending their sober moments thinking of when they're going to get their next drink. That wasn't even my mentality in college, it was more of a when is the next party, and who wants to have some fun. How would I have graduated on time otherwise? I'd place a small wager you either didn't go to college, went and left because you didn't fit in, or went to some sorry ass community college. Lighten up, little hobbit, it'll do you some good. Reading through this thread it's pretty obvious you're the one with the problem now, picking fights with the OP and then every other poster that disagrees with you.[/QUOTE]
1. In college. Bentley College.
2. Who's pickin' fights now? I can't seem to remember.
EPIC PLOT TWIST --->
3. You may not be an alcoholic, but that doesn't mean that you're not a in' lunatic anyway.
4. Hobbits are pimp shit, unlike horses.
1. In college. Bentley College.
2. Who's pickin' fights now? I can't seem to remember.
EPIC PLOT TWIST --->
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']After reading the shitfest this thread has become, I really have to think it's too bad Greetard didn't OD.[/QUOTE] Holy crap, you started beef with me? BUT HOW CAN THIS BE?
in' lunatic anyway.4. Hobbits are pimp shit, unlike horses.
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[quote name='Apossum']who the hell tries to talk like they wanna fight on the ing internet? goddamn, go kill yourself.[/quote]
This is sig worthy.
ing internet? goddamn, go kill yourself.[/quote]This is sig worthy.
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[quote name='pittpizza']Oh come on, thats not ...eh nevermind, yeah it is.[/QUOTE]
english in big daddy's post?
english in big daddy's post?
[quote name='Greetard']1. In college. Bentley College.
2. Who's pickin' fights now? I can't seem to remember.
EPIC PLOT TWIST --->
3. You may not be an alcoholic, but that doesn't mean that you're not a in' lunatic anyway.
4. Hobbits are pimp shit, unlike horses.[/QUOTE]
Fairly certain he won't be showing his face in this thread again after ownage that hard. BTW, speaking of classic ZL posts, where's that "Job interview gone bad" thread anyway?
2. Who's pickin' fights now? I can't seem to remember.
EPIC PLOT TWIST --->
Holy crap, you started beef with me? BUT HOW CAN THIS BE?
in' lunatic anyway.4. Hobbits are pimp shit, unlike horses.[/QUOTE]
Fairly certain he won't be showing his face in this thread again after ownage that hard. BTW, speaking of classic ZL posts, where's that "Job interview gone bad" thread anyway?
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[quote name='bigdaddy']Is the OP still alive? I have hoped he over dosed on something.[/quote]
Fine.. I'll bite. Why would you wish death upon me? Just wondering...
An update.
She shot up again.. she's fine. And I am too, despite what seems to be another lost friend situation. Oh well..
Fine.. I'll bite. Why would you wish death upon me? Just wondering...
An update.
She shot up again.. she's fine. And I am too, despite what seems to be another lost friend situation. Oh well..
Lol this is my first post. Jesus christ these forums are insane. I spent the last hour reading this thread. I am still laughing over the conversion of OP's epic adventure to horribly drawn MS paint-esque pictures. Also hilarious, would be ZL vs greetard.
Oh and OP, good luck with everything. At one point I was a moderate user myself (Not so much of heroin...) , but it did turn into something worse, so I stopped all substances completely. I refuse to be a slave to anything, but by the same token I don't regret anything. Been totally clean 4 years, had some great times, but I'm past it now. I have the will power to stop most anything I want, I'm too stubborn to let an addiction of any sort, drug or not, control me. It's too bad most people don't have that sort of self-control. They're the ones that give all moderate users of any drug or substance a bad name.
Oh and OP, good luck with everything. At one point I was a moderate user myself (Not so much of heroin...) , but it did turn into something worse, so I stopped all substances completely. I refuse to be a slave to anything, but by the same token I don't regret anything. Been totally clean 4 years, had some great times, but I'm past it now. I have the will power to stop most anything I want, I'm too stubborn to let an addiction of any sort, drug or not, control me. It's too bad most people don't have that sort of self-control. They're the ones that give all moderate users of any drug or substance a bad name.
[quote name='pittpizza']Wow, what an extremely interesting thread. I still can't decide if the OP's story is even true, and if he actually beleives the oppressive police state is good.
If you are just full of shit: off. This douche could be laughing his ass off at how many people are taking him seriously.
If you are serious: off as to your 1984 utopian state and sorry to hear about your problems. I can pretty much gurantee you that hanging around with your user buddies is no way to stay clean. Your first mistake OP was trying to defend using. Attempting to defend use of a drug (even ones that should not be illegal) only makes you sound like an addict so don't do it. What do you think about freedom, due process, civil rights or liberty OP, do these concepts interest you at all?
Heroin is someed up shit. Call it heroin for clarity's sake and not "drugs" because some drugs are good. Some of them are even legal and there are some others that are not but should be.[/quote]
Actually it is true, I know for a fact since I know the poster irl.
I agree hanging around people who are using is no way to stay clean, but the original poster for lack of a better term, is a "ing wackjob" and has a viewpoint and state-of-mind much different then the average person so I long ago stopped trying to apply the concept that "what is true with most people should be true with him."
Attempting to defend use of drugs IS addressing "freedom, civil rights etc.." Just because you don't like it and thinks its morally wrong doesn't mean it shouldn't be a protected right. For example free speech allows the KKK to hold rallies and parades in public areas. Most people despise them and wish they weren't allowed, however they are. Analogize that to the use of drugs and personal rights.
No drug is inherently worse then any other drug so to say some are ok and some aren't is hypocritical. All drugs have the potential to do damage if used improperly. And you do know if you use a legal drug in a manner other then specified it then becomes illegal right? There goes you're theory on good legal drugs.
And an overall general statement to the people replying to this thread:
All you who say "ah her shes a junkie/slit your wrists/ u u do drugs/etc.." are willfully ignorant and are in need of a strong education in drug addiction. Go google it and read a few papers and educate yourselves so you won't sound so moronic next time you try to speak to the subject. For that matter, do this next time you try to speak to any subject you know little of.. prefabably before you post/speak.
Dima: You def. over-hyped this thread, most the people in this forum sound like retards. The cartoon was alright.
If you are just full of shit:
off. This douche could be laughing his ass off at how many people are taking him seriously. If you are serious:
off as to your 1984 utopian state and sorry to hear about your problems. I can pretty much gurantee you that hanging around with your user buddies is no way to stay clean. Your first mistake OP was trying to defend using. Attempting to defend use of a drug (even ones that should not be illegal) only makes you sound like an addict so don't do it. What do you think about freedom, due process, civil rights or liberty OP, do these concepts interest you at all?Heroin is some
ed up shit. Call it heroin for clarity's sake and not "drugs" because some drugs are good. Some of them are even legal and there are some others that are not but should be.[/quote]Actually it is true, I know for a fact since I know the poster irl.
I agree hanging around people who are using is no way to stay clean, but the original poster for lack of a better term, is a "
ing wackjob" and has a viewpoint and state-of-mind much different then the average person so I long ago stopped trying to apply the concept that "what is true with most people should be true with him."Attempting to defend use of drugs IS addressing "freedom, civil rights etc.." Just because you don't like it and thinks its morally wrong doesn't mean it shouldn't be a protected right. For example free speech allows the KKK to hold rallies and parades in public areas. Most people despise them and wish they weren't allowed, however they are. Analogize that to the use of drugs and personal rights.
No drug is inherently worse then any other drug so to say some are ok and some aren't is hypocritical. All drugs have the potential to do damage if used improperly. And you do know if you use a legal drug in a manner other then specified it then becomes illegal right? There goes you're theory on good legal drugs.
And an overall general statement to the people replying to this thread:
All you who say "ah
her shes a junkie/slit your wrists/ u u do drugs/etc.." are willfully ignorant and are in need of a strong education in drug addiction. Go google it and read a few papers and educate yourselves so you won't sound so moronic next time you try to speak to the subject. For that matter, do this next time you try to speak to any subject you know little of.. prefabably before you post/speak.Dima: You def. over-hyped this thread, most the people in this forum sound like retards. The cartoon was alright.
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