NBA thread 07-08 "Micro-sized"
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[quote name='mr ryles']Greg Oden out all season due to micro fracture surgery. I was really looking forward to seeing what the Blazers could do this year, and without one of the key players that their team was almost built around, I have to say I am a little disappointed.[/quote]
Yeah, that was a big kick in the nubs for the Blazers organization and ESPECIALLY the Blazers fans.
Looks like all the attention is going to be centered around Durant.
Yeah, that was a big kick in the nubs for the Blazers organization and ESPECIALLY the Blazers fans.
Looks like all the attention is going to be centered around Durant.
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as much as i hate boston (except good will hunting and john cena), man the celtics look scary. the truth, rayray, and kg. ugh, as long as they make it into the playoffs they look pretty sick
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john cenawhen does pre season start...it feels like its been forever since basketball
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I'm sure a lot of people in the Portland area are kind of wishing they either took Durant or got the second pick in the draft right now. Sure, Oden could recover and still become the beast he's supposed to, but now there's quite a bit more doubt.
Speaking of Durant, I don't think he will amount to anything at all for quite some time. He'll get his 24 points a night as a rookie, although that may take 30-40 shots to do. He looked good his one year in college, but the kids he was beating up on won't be there in the NBA for him to knock around. Well, maybe Luke Ridnour, but unfortunately for Durant he's on the same team with Luke. I'm not sold on Durant at all.
Speaking of Durant, I don't think he will amount to anything at all for quite some time. He'll get his 24 points a night as a rookie, although that may take 30-40 shots to do. He looked good his one year in college, but the kids he was beating up on won't be there in the NBA for him to knock around. Well, maybe Luke Ridnour, but unfortunately for Durant he's on the same team with Luke. I'm not sold on Durant at all.
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Considering how Seattle really doesn't have any other weapons Durant will be offensive option #1, 2, and 3. However, everyone else in the league will know this and either put their best defender on him all game long and/or double team him every time down the court.
I don't see Delonte West, Luke Ridnour, Chris Wilcox, Nick Collision, etc. being able to win a lot of games for Seattle when Durant is shut down. Which means when they're officially announced to be related to Oklahoma City for next year they'll have a ton of ping-pong balls in the lottery.
My Sonics are dead both before this season as well as immediately after it. It's almost a shame.
I don't see Delonte West, Luke Ridnour, Chris Wilcox, Nick Collision, etc. being able to win a lot of games for Seattle when Durant is shut down. Which means when they're officially announced to be related to Oklahoma City for next year they'll have a ton of ping-pong balls in the lottery.
My Sonics are dead both before this season as well as immediately after it. It's almost a shame.
[quote name='captainfrizo']Considering how Seattle really doesn't have any other weapons Durant will be offensive option #1, 2, and 3. However, everyone else in the league will know this and either put their best defender on him all game long and/or double team him every time down the court.
I don't see Delonte West, Luke Ridnour, Chris Wilcox, Nick Collision, etc. being able to win a lot of games for Seattle when Durant is shut down. Which means when they're officially announced to be related to Oklahoma City for next year they'll have a ton of ping-pong balls in the lottery.
My Sonics are dead both before this season as well as immediately after it. It's almost a shame.[/QUOTE]
I may not follow Seattle Basketball as much as you do, but I've always seen Ridnour as a solid PG who is more than capable of running a team on offense. Collison is just mediocre as a post player, both defensively and on offensive. Wilcox is an explosive player in the post, but don't expect much from him outside of a couple big rebounds and finishes. A poor mans Ben Wallace. Surely they have a few more players I can't think of, but ya they have a tough season in front of them.
I don't see Delonte West, Luke Ridnour, Chris Wilcox, Nick Collision, etc. being able to win a lot of games for Seattle when Durant is shut down. Which means when they're officially announced to be related to Oklahoma City for next year they'll have a ton of ping-pong balls in the lottery.
My Sonics are dead both before this season as well as immediately after it. It's almost a shame.[/QUOTE]
I may not follow Seattle Basketball as much as you do, but I've always seen Ridnour as a solid PG who is more than capable of running a team on offense. Collison is just mediocre as a post player, both defensively and on offensive. Wilcox is an explosive player in the post, but don't expect much from him outside of a couple big rebounds and finishes. A poor mans Ben Wallace. Surely they have a few more players I can't think of, but ya they have a tough season in front of them.
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The biggest problem with Luke is he can't guard statues at a wax museum. When 80% of the guards in the league have their career nights against the same player you know something isn't right.
Collision and Wilcox are fairly decent players, but neither are true starter material. Both are strictly back-ups.
Durant and fellow rookie Jeff Green are truly the only players anyone not in Seattle should know about. The rest of the roster is completely irrelevant.
Oh well, one more season with these guys before their move and then we'll have the inevitable expansion team to look forward to, unless another team relocates here first. Stern wants a team in Seattle, and I have little doubt he'll make that happen.
Collision and Wilcox are fairly decent players, but neither are true starter material. Both are strictly back-ups.
Durant and fellow rookie Jeff Green are truly the only players anyone not in Seattle should know about. The rest of the roster is completely irrelevant.
Oh well, one more season with these guys before their move and then we'll have the inevitable expansion team to look forward to, unless another team relocates here first. Stern wants a team in Seattle, and I have little doubt he'll make that happen.
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Greg Oden's out all season?
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At least we still have Rookie of the Year Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I'd be surprised if they took the team into the playoffs, but I think it'll still be interesting to see what they do this season.
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!At least we still have Rookie of the Year Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I'd be surprised if they took the team into the playoffs, but I think it'll still be interesting to see what they do this season.
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Greg Oden's out all season?
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At least we still have Rookie of the Year Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I'd be surprised if they took the team into the playoffs, but I think it'll still be interesting to see what they do this season.
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!At least we still have Rookie of the Year Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I'd be surprised if they took the team into the playoffs, but I think it'll still be interesting to see what they do this season.
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[quote name='DigitalSpace']Greg Oden's out all season?
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At least we still have Rookie of the Year Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I'd be surprised if they took the team into the playoffs, but I think it'll still be interesting to see what they do this season.[/QUOTE]
Err. Playoffs? Yeah right. If Oden wasn't hurt, we would've had a glimmer of hope (maybe less than a glimmer) for the 8 spot, but not anymore. Not even close. In fact we're an even worse team this year than we were LAST year. No more Z-Bo, our leading scorer, a consistent 20-10 player. Roy and LaMarcus can only pick up so much slack and our ridiculous situation at PG with Jack, Blake and Sergio is still up in the air. Then there's the GIGANTIC hole in the middle now. Who can we put in there? Our POS, overpaid, poor excuse for a center named Joel Pryzbylla? *Sigh*
I wish we still had Magloire, despite the hate on him, he averaged a double double whenever he started. And for a player who knew he wouldn't get signed again, heing worked his ass off last season, I really liked his great effort and play, even though it didn't fit the style of the Blazers as a whole.
Anyways, hearing the Oden news this morning literally made me want to cry. Also hearing the different sports analysts saying "I told you so" about Oden's health just pisses me off further, I'm looking at you Bill Simmons. YOU DON'T KICK A MAN WHILE HE'S DOWN.
Portland doesn't deserve this, Oden doesn't deserve this. He's such a great personality and a great person. GAH. I can only hope he continues updating his blog. Well, I guess I can look forward to the 2008 Draft...*sobs*
I actually got that sinking feeling in your stomach you get when you hear something sad, or someone actually hurts your feelings. Just ugh. I swear to if someone says "LAWLz Portland is teh suck" I'm gonnaing go off.
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!At least we still have Rookie of the Year Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I'd be surprised if they took the team into the playoffs, but I think it'll still be interesting to see what they do this season.[/QUOTE]
Err. Playoffs? Yeah right. If Oden wasn't hurt, we would've had a glimmer of hope (maybe less than a glimmer) for the 8 spot, but not anymore. Not even close. In fact we're an even worse team this year than we were LAST year. No more Z-Bo, our leading scorer, a consistent 20-10 player. Roy and LaMarcus can only pick up so much slack and our ridiculous situation at PG with Jack, Blake and Sergio is still up in the air. Then there's the GIGANTIC hole in the middle now. Who can we put in there? Our POS, overpaid, poor excuse for a center named Joel Pryzbylla? *Sigh*
I wish we still had Magloire, despite the hate on him, he averaged a double double whenever he started. And for a player who knew he wouldn't get signed again, he
ing worked his ass off last season, I really liked his great effort and play, even though it didn't fit the style of the Blazers as a whole. Anyways, hearing the Oden news this morning literally made me want to cry. Also hearing the different sports analysts saying "I told you so" about Oden's health just pisses me off further, I'm looking at you Bill Simmons. YOU DON'T KICK A MAN WHILE HE'S DOWN.
Portland doesn't deserve this, Oden doesn't deserve this. He's such a great personality and a great person. GAH. I can only hope he continues updating his blog. Well, I guess I can look forward to the 2008 Draft...*sobs*
I actually got that sinking feeling in your stomach you get when you hear something sad, or someone actually hurts your feelings. Just ugh. I swear to if someone says "LAWLz Portland is teh suck" I'm gonna
ing go off.
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With the first pick in the 2008 NBA Draft.......The Portland Trailblazers 
Isn't the Portland/Seattle game a XMAS game or some major primetime game. I hear lots of people ripping on Durant for not being able to bench 185 pounds
Also, EVERYONE is high on Amir Johnson, the little known man from Detroit. Analysts are saying he is KG Lite, and he was the BIG big man available in FA this past year. I'm glad Detroit kept him. This SHOULD be his year to shine fulltime.
Isn't the Portland/Seattle game a XMAS game or some major primetime game. I hear lots of people ripping on Durant for not being able to bench 185 pounds
Also, EVERYONE is high on Amir Johnson, the little known man from Detroit. Analysts are saying he is KG Lite, and he was the BIG big man available in FA this past year. I'm glad Detroit kept him. This SHOULD be his year to shine fulltime.
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I can't wait for the NBA season. I'm a big Bulls fan myself and I'm definitely rooting for them to win the Championship this year.
As for Oden, this doesn't really surprise me, but I feel bad for him. My H.S. has played against his H.S. a few times (in a few sports), and I have a few friends who went to his H.S., so I gotta have some respect for him. I hope he's all right though and comes back next season.
As for Oden, this doesn't really surprise me, but I feel bad for him. My H.S. has played against his H.S. a few times (in a few sports), and I have a few friends who went to his H.S., so I gotta have some respect for him. I hope he's all right though and comes back next season.
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It sucks to hear about Oden, but man im glad he got signed and has some money. I think hes a good guy and is gonna be one hell of a player.
Now lets talk about the 07-08 champs, which will be my Houston Rockers. We got a new coach, a couple of new players, resigned Steve Francis, and Bonzi Wells will actually play this year cause Rick Adelman likes him. The PF Luis Scola we got this summer sounds promising. If Yao and Mcgrady stay healthy this is the year.
Now lets talk about the 07-08 champs, which will be my Houston Rockers. We got a new coach, a couple of new players, resigned Steve Francis, and Bonzi Wells will actually play this year cause Rick Adelman likes him. The PF Luis Scola we got this summer sounds promising. If Yao and Mcgrady stay healthy this is the year.
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Sorry, I don't see the Rockets getting past the first round of the playoffs.
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[quote name='captainfrizo']Sorry, I don't see the Rockets getting past the first round of the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
As much as I don't want to believe that...*sigh*
I have hope for them this year though, for all the reasons the poster above wrote about.
As much as I don't want to believe that...*sigh*
I have hope for them this year though, for all the reasons the poster above wrote about.
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and as the only jazz fan here.. I can't wait for the upcoming season, watching Russia pretty much demolish everyone in Euro play, (although the game against France AK didn't have the best game.. he's been awesome in pretty much the rest of the tournament)
Oct 11th is the first game on TV for me preseason action against Milwaukee.. although not going to be very interesting I'll love to see how new Jazzmen Kryylo Fesenko, Morris Almond, Ronnie Price, and Jason Hart play and if losing the fumbler Derek Fisher really means anything. If you don't know who Fesenko is, he's a 7 footer who can run the floor helps out with the Interior defense problem we had last year. He's a little rough around the edges, but so far I think he's better than Ostertag or Jargon Colins so that makes him already the third best center in Jazz history.
Celtics are going to be tough to beat in the East, although I think all those players on are the downhill .. There is statistical evidence that once Shooting Guards hit 32 or 33 their play greatly diminishes and its good to point out that Ray Allen was injuried for many games the last few seasons. Kevin Garnett is still amazing although I don't know if it'll translate if they can't keep everyone healthy.. I might have loved this team like 5 years ago.. but I don't know..
With Oden out though.. i kind of let out a "i knew it".. to myself.. i didn't think he'd be the "second coming" like the TV guys were making him out to be.. I watched the NCAA tournament and I guess I just didn't see it like "everyone" apparently did. I didn't agree with Portland getting rid of Randolph though, he's a great player and I wouldn't have put all the eggs in one basket so to speak.
But anyways I'll love watching the continued distance between Chirs(tina) Paul and Deron Williams.
Oct 11th is the first game on TV for me preseason action against Milwaukee.. although not going to be very interesting I'll love to see how new Jazzmen Kryylo Fesenko, Morris Almond, Ronnie Price, and Jason Hart play and if losing the fumbler Derek Fisher really means anything. If you don't know who Fesenko is, he's a 7 footer who can run the floor helps out with the Interior defense problem we had last year. He's a little rough around the edges, but so far I think he's better than Ostertag or Jargon Colins so that makes him already the third best center in Jazz history.
Celtics are going to be tough to beat in the East, although I think all those players on are the downhill .. There is statistical evidence that once Shooting Guards hit 32 or 33 their play greatly diminishes and its good to point out that Ray Allen was injuried for many games the last few seasons. Kevin Garnett is still amazing although I don't know if it'll translate if they can't keep everyone healthy.. I might have loved this team like 5 years ago.. but I don't know..
With Oden out though.. i kind of let out a "i knew it".. to myself.. i didn't think he'd be the "second coming" like the TV guys were making him out to be.. I watched the NCAA tournament and I guess I just didn't see it like "everyone" apparently did. I didn't agree with Portland getting rid of Randolph though, he's a great player and I wouldn't have put all the eggs in one basket so to speak.
But anyways I'll love watching the continued distance between Chirs(tina) Paul and Deron Williams.
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[quote name='urzishra14']and as the only jazz fan here.. I can't wait for the upcoming season, watching Russia pretty much demolish everyone in Euro play, (although the game against France AK didn't have the best game.. he's been awesome in pretty much the rest of the tournament)
Oct 11th is the first game on TV for me preseason action against Milwaukee.. although not going to be very interesting I'll love to see how new Jazzmen Kryylo Fesenko, Morris Almond, Ronnie Price, and Jason Hart play and if losing the fumbler Derek Fisher really means anything. If you don't know who Fesenko is, he's a 7 footer who can run the floor helps out with the Interior defense problem we had last year. He's a little rough around the edges, but so far I think he's better than Ostertag or Jargon Colins so that makes him already the third best center in Jazz history.
Celtics are going to be tough to beat in the East, although I think all those players on are the downhill .. There is statistical evidence that once Shooting Guards hit 32 or 33 their play greatly diminishes and its good to point out that Ray Allen was injuried for many games the last few seasons. Kevin Garnett is still amazing although I don't know if it'll translate if they can't keep everyone healthy.. I might have loved this team like 5 years ago.. but I don't know..
With Oden out though.. i kind of let out a "i knew it".. to myself.. i didn't think he'd be the "second coming" like the TV guys were making him out to be.. I watched the NCAA tournament and I guess I just didn't see it like "everyone" apparently did. I didn't agree with Portland getting rid of Randolph though, he's a great player and I wouldn't have put all the eggs in one basket so to speak.
But anyways I'll love watching the continued distance between Chirs(tina) Paul and Deron Williams.[/QUOTE]
Couple of things, by you saying "i knew it" did you know he was going to be out for the entire season? And also in Oden's defense...he DID play his whole NCAA career with his left hand...and he's right handed, he still brought Ohio State to the finals.
Oct 11th is the first game on TV for me preseason action against Milwaukee.. although not going to be very interesting I'll love to see how new Jazzmen Kryylo Fesenko, Morris Almond, Ronnie Price, and Jason Hart play and if losing the fumbler Derek Fisher really means anything. If you don't know who Fesenko is, he's a 7 footer who can run the floor helps out with the Interior defense problem we had last year. He's a little rough around the edges, but so far I think he's better than Ostertag or Jargon Colins so that makes him already the third best center in Jazz history.
Celtics are going to be tough to beat in the East, although I think all those players on are the downhill .. There is statistical evidence that once Shooting Guards hit 32 or 33 their play greatly diminishes and its good to point out that Ray Allen was injuried for many games the last few seasons. Kevin Garnett is still amazing although I don't know if it'll translate if they can't keep everyone healthy.. I might have loved this team like 5 years ago.. but I don't know..
With Oden out though.. i kind of let out a "i knew it".. to myself.. i didn't think he'd be the "second coming" like the TV guys were making him out to be.. I watched the NCAA tournament and I guess I just didn't see it like "everyone" apparently did. I didn't agree with Portland getting rid of Randolph though, he's a great player and I wouldn't have put all the eggs in one basket so to speak.
But anyways I'll love watching the continued distance between Chirs(tina) Paul and Deron Williams.[/QUOTE]
Couple of things, by you saying "i knew it" did you know he was going to be out for the entire season? And also in Oden's defense...he DID play his whole NCAA career with his left hand...and he's right handed, he still brought Ohio State to the finals.
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[quote name='A Happy Panda']Couple of things, by you saying "i knew it" did you know he was going to be out for the entire season? And also in Oden's defense...he DID play his whole NCAA career with his left hand...and he's right handed, he still brought Ohio State to the finals.[/QUOTE]
his whole NCAA career was one year.. Carlos Boozer is right handed yet, his left hand play is as good or even better than his right handed moves.. unless there is a LeBron type talent, there is no reason a player shouldn't play 2 years in college. but when you're a hyped up player like oden and you're projected to go top 2, then yeah why play college.. I'm not saying he shouldn't have gone, he just really didn't "prove" anything that everyone was like he should go number 1.. just like the year of Andrew Bogut, I didn't think he was all the great. I just didn't like portland banking the farm on this guy.. on a guy who hadn't proved much other than he was talented and big.. especially with the NBA shifting from big centers to athletic power forwards i don't think it was a wise pick.
EDIT:, no i did not know he would be out for the whole season.. a quarter to half maybe.. but not the whole season.. i kind of thought his "future" image of himself would be greater then his actual self.. and that is true.. I still think Portland will have a tough time keeping all their awesome young talent together when they have to resign at least Oden and Roy to max deals.. i'm afraid they might have a luxury tax problem in 5 years..
his whole NCAA career was one year.. Carlos Boozer is right handed yet, his left hand play is as good or even better than his right handed moves.. unless there is a LeBron type talent, there is no reason a player shouldn't play 2 years in college. but when you're a hyped up player like oden and you're projected to go top 2, then yeah why play college.. I'm not saying he shouldn't have gone, he just really didn't "prove" anything that everyone was like he should go number 1.. just like the year of Andrew Bogut, I didn't think he was all the great. I just didn't like portland banking the farm on this guy.. on a guy who hadn't proved much other than he was talented and big.. especially with the NBA shifting from big centers to athletic power forwards i don't think it was a wise pick.
EDIT:, no i did not know he would be out for the whole season.. a quarter to half maybe.. but not the whole season.. i kind of thought his "future" image of himself would be greater then his actual self.. and that is true.. I still think Portland will have a tough time keeping all their awesome young talent together when they have to resign at least Oden and Roy to max deals.. i'm afraid they might have a luxury tax problem in 5 years..
regarding portland/oden: yes, it's a heartbreaker for portland to lose oden for an entire season with the first round draft pick....but i still think they made the "right choice" in taking oden first...he seems to have the right build and skills to be a great player in a few seasons (minus this first season of course)
regarding houston: if yao and tmac can stay healthy, this team is always dangerous...especially with rick adelman's offensive play style...but i really dont like them getting francis...another small guard who likes to shoot..soooo they have francis, rafer alston, mike james, AND luther head???? that is definitely not the supporting cast that tmac and yao need...battier fits well as well as bonzi, but those shoot-first guards are not fitting IMO
regarding Warriors: yea, bellini was pretty solid in the summer league...nice shot and overall skill...i'd like to see him play in the regular season; should be good...losing jrich means more playing time for monta...but monta is kind of short for the 2...we'll see what he can do; but i'm sure he'll do fine
regarding utah: i'm looking forward to another solid year for the underappreciated jazz...deron williams proved he is a star PG now and has closed the gap between him and chris paul...now they're about equal in my opinion as passers; boozer really really surprised me...he's a top tier big man now, and he proved it in the playoffs
nowww....regarding my charlotte bobcats!:
i'm looking forward to seeing this lineup: Felton, Jrich, Wallace, May, Okafor.....with a bench of Hermann, Dudley, Carrol, Davidson, Brezec, McInnis; jrich is exactly what the bobcats needed: a competent shooter who can spread the offense a little for okafor, wallace, and felton; I'm hoping for a playoff spot, and I'm fairly confident we can snatch the 8th spot in the east if we can gel togetehr quickly; yea it sucks we lost brandon wright (UNC!!!), but I think this is what we need to move on; we can't always depend on young
regarding houston: if yao and tmac can stay healthy, this team is always dangerous...especially with rick adelman's offensive play style...but i really dont like them getting francis...another small guard who likes to shoot..soooo they have francis, rafer alston, mike james, AND luther head???? that is definitely not the supporting cast that tmac and yao need...battier fits well as well as bonzi, but those shoot-first guards are not fitting IMO
regarding Warriors: yea, bellini was pretty solid in the summer league...nice shot and overall skill...i'd like to see him play in the regular season; should be good...losing jrich means more playing time for monta...but monta is kind of short for the 2...we'll see what he can do; but i'm sure he'll do fine
regarding utah: i'm looking forward to another solid year for the underappreciated jazz...deron williams proved he is a star PG now and has closed the gap between him and chris paul...now they're about equal in my opinion as passers; boozer really really surprised me...he's a top tier big man now, and he proved it in the playoffs
nowww....regarding my charlotte bobcats!:
i'm looking forward to seeing this lineup: Felton, Jrich, Wallace, May, Okafor.....with a bench of Hermann, Dudley, Carrol, Davidson, Brezec, McInnis; jrich is exactly what the bobcats needed: a competent shooter who can spread the offense a little for okafor, wallace, and felton; I'm hoping for a playoff spot, and I'm fairly confident we can snatch the 8th spot in the east if we can gel togetehr quickly; yea it sucks we lost brandon wright (UNC!!!), but I think this is what we need to move on; we can't always depend on young
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Well, I hate the Jazz so i'm biased in my opinion.
And whoever said Oden took them to the Championship game is crazy, OSU had the luckiest streak i've ever seen, Lewis hit what? 2 three's against I want to say Providence, then Tennessee choked away the game.
The Bobcats, have potential but I didn't understand the trade for J-Rich, I mean i'll take it, Wright + 10 mil. trade exception, but you signed Carroll, and re-signed Wallace?
Lineup:
Baron Davis
Bellenelli
S-Jax
Harrington
Beads
With a bench of:
Ellis
Barnes
Wright
Pietrus (Maybe?)
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And whoever said Oden took them to the Championship game is crazy, OSU had the luckiest streak i've ever seen, Lewis hit what? 2 three's against I want to say Providence, then Tennessee choked away the game.
The Bobcats, have potential but I didn't understand the trade for J-Rich, I mean i'll take it, Wright + 10 mil. trade exception, but you signed Carroll, and re-signed Wallace?
Lineup:
Baron Davis
Bellenelli
S-Jax
Harrington
Beads
With a bench of:
Ellis
Barnes
Wright
Pietrus (Maybe?)
STACKED
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[quote name='ph33r m3']Well, I hate the Jazz so i'm biased in my opinion.
And whoever said Oden took them to the Championship game is crazy, OSU had the luckiest streak i've ever seen, Lewis hit what? 2 three's against I want to say Providence, then Tennessee choked away the game.
The Bobcats, have potential but I didn't understand the trade for J-Rich, I mean i'll take it, Wright + 10 mil. trade exception, but you signed Carroll, and re-signed Wallace?
Lineup:
Baron Davis
Bellenelli
S-Jax
Harrington
Beads
With a bench of:
Ellis
Barnes
Wright
Pietrus (Maybe?)
STACKED[/QUOTE]
I liked Richardson, although I thought they got better with the Wright trade.. it doesn't make them completely "small" dependant as they were last year. and yeah when the hell are they going to sign Pietrus he was amazing last year.. especially in the playoffs.. and they drafted probably one of the best players in the draft with Bellenelli..all star shooter in the making right there.. I like the warriors moreso then anyone else not named Phoenix in their division..
if the Bobcats ever play up to the potential of that team they would be an NBA dynasty.. but I fear they are the new LA Clippers just stuck with amazing lottery talent but not going anywhere, I hope I'm wrong though.
AK today had an amazing game against Lithuania with 29 points, 8 rebounds 3 or 4 blocks and only 4 TOs.. he was 1/3 from the 3pt line and 10-13 overall.
And whoever said Oden took them to the Championship game is crazy, OSU had the luckiest streak i've ever seen, Lewis hit what? 2 three's against I want to say Providence, then Tennessee choked away the game.
The Bobcats, have potential but I didn't understand the trade for J-Rich, I mean i'll take it, Wright + 10 mil. trade exception, but you signed Carroll, and re-signed Wallace?
Lineup:
Baron Davis
Bellenelli
S-Jax
Harrington
Beads
With a bench of:
Ellis
Barnes
Wright
Pietrus (Maybe?)
STACKED[/QUOTE]
I liked Richardson, although I thought they got better with the Wright trade.. it doesn't make them completely "small" dependant as they were last year. and yeah when the hell are they going to sign Pietrus he was amazing last year.. especially in the playoffs.. and they drafted probably one of the best players in the draft with Bellenelli..all star shooter in the making right there.. I like the warriors moreso then anyone else not named Phoenix in their division..
if the Bobcats ever play up to the potential of that team they would be an NBA dynasty.. but I fear they are the new LA Clippers just stuck with amazing lottery talent but not going anywhere, I hope I'm wrong though.
AK today had an amazing game against Lithuania with 29 points, 8 rebounds 3 or 4 blocks and only 4 TOs.. he was 1/3 from the 3pt line and 10-13 overall.
AK needs to pick up the slack...he dropped the ball majorly last season (i know because I drafted him in TWO of my fantasy leagues)...all his statistical categories declined pretty significantly...i'm hoping he bounces back a bit this coming up season...part of it was b/c of him not being integrated into the offense like he wanted to be, which afftected his whole game i guess
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The Bobcats, have potential but I didn't understand the trade for J-Rich, I mean i'll take it, Wright + 10 mil. trade exception, but you signed Carroll, and re-signed Wallace?
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well we didnt want to live off of potential for another year so we traded away wright for proven scoring/shooting...and wallace is an integral part of the bobcats if you've ever watched him play...resigning him was, dare i say, even more important than getting jrich in the first place...getting a good SG was a top priority but resigning wallace, a good hustle player that plays great D as well as slashes, was big...carroll is a good backup SG, and proved it last year with his 3's and his great FT shooting (nobody shoots good FT's on the cats except for him), but i dont know why we signed him for so much just to be a backup SG...we shoulda tried to get a good backup PG instead....o well...we'll see what happens
The Bobcats, have potential but I didn't understand the trade for J-Rich, I mean i'll take it, Wright + 10 mil. trade exception, but you signed Carroll, and re-signed Wallace?
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well we didnt want to live off of potential for another year so we traded away wright for proven scoring/shooting...and wallace is an integral part of the bobcats if you've ever watched him play...resigning him was, dare i say, even more important than getting jrich in the first place...getting a good SG was a top priority but resigning wallace, a good hustle player that plays great D as well as slashes, was big...carroll is a good backup SG, and proved it last year with his 3's and his great FT shooting (nobody shoots good FT's on the cats except for him), but i dont know why we signed him for so much just to be a backup SG...we shoulda tried to get a good backup PG instead....o well...we'll see what happens
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[quote name='urzishra14']his whole NCAA career was one year.. Carlos Boozer is right handed yet, his left hand play is as good or even better than his right handed moves.. unless there is a LeBron type talent, there is no reason a player shouldn't play 2 years in college. but when you're a hyped up player like oden and you're projected to go top 2, then yeah why play college.. I'm not saying he shouldn't have gone, he just really didn't "prove" anything that everyone was like he should go number 1.. just like the year of Andrew Bogut, I didn't think he was all the great. I just didn't like portland banking the farm on this guy.. on a guy who hadn't proved much other than he was talented and big.. especially with the NBA shifting from big centers to athletic power forwards i don't think it was a wise pick.
EDIT:, no i did not know he would be out for the whole season.. a quarter to half maybe.. but not the whole season.. i kind of thought his "future" image of himself would be greater then his actual self.. and that is true.. I still think Portland will have a tough time keeping all their awesome young talent together when they have to resign at least Oden and Roy to max deals.. i'm afraid they might have a luxury tax problem in 5 years..[/QUOTE]
Well, Kevin Pritchard was thinking what every NBA GM thinks: Big men win championships. It's been pretty much true throughout NBA history, besides a few notable exceptions (MJ). Not only that, Portland drafted him not only because of his skills, but because of his personality. Paul Allen and Pritchard were sick of the "Jailblazers" look, and really, Randolph was the last player that needed to go to rid themselves of that name, except for Darius Miles (who I hear is stupid fat now because he hasn't trained worth shit since he got injured). Oden's only 19, he'll heal and I hope he comes back and fulfills his potential, because the potential is very very high.
As for luxury tax? I'm pretty sure we're paying it right now. And if paying a higher tax means keeping talent like Oden and Roy around, I don't think Paul Allen minds.
The problem I have is that people are coming out of the woodwork with "I told you so's" and "I knew it's". Hindsight is 20/20. Always is.
EDIT:, no i did not know he would be out for the whole season.. a quarter to half maybe.. but not the whole season.. i kind of thought his "future" image of himself would be greater then his actual self.. and that is true.. I still think Portland will have a tough time keeping all their awesome young talent together when they have to resign at least Oden and Roy to max deals.. i'm afraid they might have a luxury tax problem in 5 years..[/QUOTE]
Well, Kevin Pritchard was thinking what every NBA GM thinks: Big men win championships. It's been pretty much true throughout NBA history, besides a few notable exceptions (MJ). Not only that, Portland drafted him not only because of his skills, but because of his personality. Paul Allen and Pritchard were sick of the "Jailblazers" look, and really, Randolph was the last player that needed to go to rid themselves of that name, except for Darius Miles (who I hear is stupid fat now because he hasn't trained worth shit since he got injured). Oden's only 19, he'll heal and I hope he comes back and fulfills his potential, because the potential is very very high.
As for luxury tax? I'm pretty sure we're paying it right now. And if paying a higher tax means keeping talent like Oden and Roy around, I don't think Paul Allen minds.
The problem I have is that people are coming out of the woodwork with "I told you so's" and "I knew it's". Hindsight is 20/20. Always is.
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Between J-Rich and Gerald Wallace every game the Bobcats play will evolve in a dunking competition.
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Looking forward to see what the raptors can do next season as Bosh gets more savvy and Bargnani and Garbajosa have an NBA year under their belt. They improved by picking up some perimeter shooting in Delfino and Kapano, which leaves Bosh as the only true inside presence unless Rasho is considered a threat.:lol:
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[quote name='A Happy Panda']Well, Kevin Pritchard was thinking what every NBA GM thinks: Big men win championships. It's been pretty much true throughout NBA history, besides a few notable exceptions (MJ). Not only that, Portland drafted him not only because of his skills, but because of his personality. Paul Allen and Pritchard were sick of the "Jailblazers" look, and really, Randolph was the last player that needed to go to rid themselves of that name, except for Darius Miles (who I hear is stupid fat now because he hasn't trained worth shit since he got injured). Oden's only 19, he'll heal and I hope he comes back and fulfills his potential, because the potential is very very high.
As for luxury tax? I'm pretty sure we're paying it right now. And if paying a higher tax means keeping talent like Oden and Roy around, I don't think Paul Allen minds.
The problem I have is that people are coming out of the woodwork with "I told you so's" and "I knew it's". Hindsight is 20/20. Always is.[/QUOTE]
Most of the top NBA analysis said that Kevin Durrant was the top player going into the draft. Oden was the riskier higher reward gamble.. Durrant was said to be the most NBA ready of the two.. but obviously I don't have access to scouts or top NBA talent observers so I don't know what would be best for Portland at the moment.. But if I were the GM I'd always take the more NBA ready player or the player that would be best for the system in place (like Utah taking Deron over Chris paul.. Deron plays the half court a lot better than Paul)
With the Tax Threshold at around 68 million Portland's project salary is 66 million this year.. but when you have 3 players who will command close to max deals (at least Roy, possibly Aldridge, and possibly Oden ) thats close to 80% of you're cap space you're bound to go over the tax threshold if you want to add the needed support for a championship calibre team.
While Paul Allen might be willing to pay the tax, that means the fans will pay for it with higher ticket prices, higher merchandise fees at games, higher food prices at games (while not necessary, I always get a pizza and a coke when i go see the jazz) so paying the higher tax if the team doesn't perform as well is riskier then taking the high risk high reward player first..
EDIT: I was fortunate enough to go to a Raptors Jazz game last year and it was one of the best games I watched all season, they have a great young team and should be one of the teams to beat in the east..
As for luxury tax? I'm pretty sure we're paying it right now. And if paying a higher tax means keeping talent like Oden and Roy around, I don't think Paul Allen minds.
The problem I have is that people are coming out of the woodwork with "I told you so's" and "I knew it's". Hindsight is 20/20. Always is.[/QUOTE]
Most of the top NBA analysis said that Kevin Durrant was the top player going into the draft. Oden was the riskier higher reward gamble.. Durrant was said to be the most NBA ready of the two.. but obviously I don't have access to scouts or top NBA talent observers so I don't know what would be best for Portland at the moment.. But if I were the GM I'd always take the more NBA ready player or the player that would be best for the system in place (like Utah taking Deron over Chris paul.. Deron plays the half court a lot better than Paul)
With the Tax Threshold at around 68 million Portland's project salary is 66 million this year.. but when you have 3 players who will command close to max deals (at least Roy, possibly Aldridge, and possibly Oden ) thats close to 80% of you're cap space you're bound to go over the tax threshold if you want to add the needed support for a championship calibre team.
While Paul Allen might be willing to pay the tax, that means the fans will pay for it with higher ticket prices, higher merchandise fees at games, higher food prices at games (while not necessary, I always get a pizza and a coke when i go see the jazz) so paying the higher tax if the team doesn't perform as well is riskier then taking the high risk high reward player first..
EDIT: I was fortunate enough to go to a Raptors Jazz game last year and it was one of the best games I watched all season, they have a great young team and should be one of the teams to beat in the east..
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[quote name='urzishra14']Most of the top NBA analysis said that Kevin Durrant was the top player going into the draft. Oden was the riskier higher reward gamble.. Durrant was said to be the most NBA ready of the two.. but obviously I don't have access to scouts or top NBA talent observers so I don't know what would be best for Portland at the moment.. But if I were the GM I'd always take the more NBA ready player or the player that would be best for the system in place (like Utah taking Deron over Chris paul.. Deron plays the half court a lot better than Paul)
With the Tax Threshold at around 68 million Portland's project salary is 66 million this year.. but when you have 3 players who will command close to max deals (at least Roy, possibly Aldridge, and possibly Oden ) thats close to 80% of you're cap space you're bound to go over the tax threshold if you want to add the needed support for a championship calibre team.
While Paul Allen might be willing to pay the tax, that means the fans will pay for it with higher ticket prices, higher merchandise fees at games, higher food prices at games (while not necessary, I always get a pizza and a coke when i go see the jazz) so paying the higher tax if the team doesn't perform as well is riskier then taking the high risk high reward player first..
EDIT: I was fortunate enough to go to a Raptors Jazz game last year and it was one of the best games I watched all season, they have a great young team and should be one of the teams to beat in the east..[/QUOTE]
I think you saying "most of the top NBA analysts said Durant was the better choice" is exagerrated. It was at LEAST 50/50. Both pheonomenal players, both great picks. Like I said earlier, big men win championships, so Pritchard went with Oden. And actually, I have the draft recorded, and I remember watching and just about everyone there at the desk on ESPN said go with Oden, except for maybe Jon Barry. (I actually don't remember if he was there, I just know he made some asinine comment about Portland or Seattle trading their picks away)
As for paying more...again, if Portland has a team with that much talent, people will pay the higher ticket prices to see those guys play. I doubt anyone pays enough attention to higher merchandise prices, and as for Pizza and a drink, Stadium food is stupidly overpriced anyways and I doubt people would really notice a 25 cent increase here and there. Fans go out to have fun and spend some cash. I'm not arguing that increases would occur, I'm saying either no one would care or no one would notice.
With the Tax Threshold at around 68 million Portland's project salary is 66 million this year.. but when you have 3 players who will command close to max deals (at least Roy, possibly Aldridge, and possibly Oden ) thats close to 80% of you're cap space you're bound to go over the tax threshold if you want to add the needed support for a championship calibre team.
While Paul Allen might be willing to pay the tax, that means the fans will pay for it with higher ticket prices, higher merchandise fees at games, higher food prices at games (while not necessary, I always get a pizza and a coke when i go see the jazz) so paying the higher tax if the team doesn't perform as well is riskier then taking the high risk high reward player first..
EDIT: I was fortunate enough to go to a Raptors Jazz game last year and it was one of the best games I watched all season, they have a great young team and should be one of the teams to beat in the east..[/QUOTE]
I think you saying "most of the top NBA analysts said Durant was the better choice" is exagerrated. It was at LEAST 50/50. Both pheonomenal players, both great picks. Like I said earlier, big men win championships, so Pritchard went with Oden. And actually, I have the draft recorded, and I remember watching and just about everyone there at the desk on ESPN said go with Oden, except for maybe Jon Barry. (I actually don't remember if he was there, I just know he made some asinine comment about Portland or Seattle trading their picks away)
As for paying more...again, if Portland has a team with that much talent, people will pay the higher ticket prices to see those guys play. I doubt anyone pays enough attention to higher merchandise prices, and as for Pizza and a drink, Stadium food is stupidly overpriced anyways and I doubt people would really notice a 25 cent increase here and there. Fans go out to have fun and spend some cash. I'm not arguing that increases would occur, I'm saying either no one would care or no one would notice.
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Kobe Bryant
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You heard it here first.
[quote name='Renegade_Zero']Kobe Bryant
40.1 ppg
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4.5 rpg
1.2 spg
MVP
Finals MVP
You heard it here first.[/QUOTE]
I wanna believe. But we didn't get any better and we were gone in the 1st round for the past 2 years.
Granted if this time, we stay healthy, we'll get to 7 games in the 1st round
40.1 ppg
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I wanna believe. But we didn't get any better and we were gone in the 1st round for the past 2 years.
Granted if this time, we stay healthy, we'll get to 7 games in the 1st round
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[quote name='indy2029']I wanna believe. But we didn't get any better and we were gone in the 1st round for the past 2 years.
Granted if this time, we stay healthy, we'll get to 7 games in the 1st round[/quote]
which if you think about it, is pretty sad that that's all that we have to look forward to this post season
I'm looking forward to how Kobe is going to be with Bynum this season. I mean are the lakers going to have to trade him now after what kobe said?
Granted if this time, we stay healthy, we'll get to 7 games in the 1st round
[/quote]which if you think about it, is pretty sad that that's all that we have to look forward to this post season
I'm looking forward to how Kobe is going to be with Bynum this season. I mean are the lakers going to have to trade him now after what kobe said?
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I don't think its much of an exaggeration on my part.. I thought the majority of the media were really hyped up on Oden (like they are on many players). But like I said I'm no GM, just when scouts say Durrant was more NBA ready, its kinda hard not to take a guy like that, especially with the amazing young team Portland is putting together. Obviously if they didn't take him and Oden turns into the next dominating big man in the NBA like Shaq is..how do you live with yourself. and if you take a guy like Oden who is at least big, he has more trade value down the line if he doesn't pan out.
Kobe wouldn't have gotten those kinds of numbers if Shaq wasn't taking up the majority of the defensive with him. Kobe is an amazing player and he puts up those kinds of MVP numbers when they let him play one on one and if he doesn't have the shot, he needs to have some teammates that he can rely on and share the load.. Even Jordan had a Paxton or Kerr or Pippin.. there is no one else on the Lakers right now that I'd be afraid of to just hit shots.. (oh wait now there is with Derek Fisher.. he makes 4-9 a game, but thats a CLUTCH 4-9 a game.. if you don't get the joke check out www.harpringsucks.com )
I'm just saying with Oden or Durrant, its hard to pick which one. now everyone is saying Durrant, but he went into the summer league and was amazing, so was a lot of players, and Oden didn't play much and thats kinda disheartening for Portland fans.
I don't know if anyone here goes to NYK games, but I bet the fans are feeling the hot dog prices. Me, a few bucks doesn't bother me, but for people who like going to games and upper bowl back of the house seats cost 70 dollars (I obviously don't have any numbers to back that up.. but just for sake of arguement) because of the luxury tax a crappy team has to pay that has to hurt.. Jazz tickets upper bowls are around 25 bucks. I wouldn't be able to go to games if they were upper 60s for upper bowl tickets.. but.. only a 6th of the league usually pays the luxury tax.. I believe only 4 or 5 teams payed it last season.. but when you have so much good talent you better believe they'd do it if they'd win a championship, it just sucks for us cheap ass fans who like going to games and buying food at the games, even if its over priced.
Kobe wouldn't have gotten those kinds of numbers if Shaq wasn't taking up the majority of the defensive with him. Kobe is an amazing player and he puts up those kinds of MVP numbers when they let him play one on one and if he doesn't have the shot, he needs to have some teammates that he can rely on and share the load.. Even Jordan had a Paxton or Kerr or Pippin.. there is no one else on the Lakers right now that I'd be afraid of to just hit shots.. (oh wait now there is with Derek Fisher.. he makes 4-9 a game, but thats a CLUTCH 4-9 a game.. if you don't get the joke check out www.harpringsucks.com )
I'm just saying with Oden or Durrant, its hard to pick which one. now everyone is saying Durrant, but he went into the summer league and was amazing, so was a lot of players, and Oden didn't play much and thats kinda disheartening for Portland fans.
I don't know if anyone here goes to NYK games, but I bet the fans are feeling the hot dog prices. Me, a few bucks doesn't bother me, but for people who like going to games and upper bowl back of the house seats cost 70 dollars (I obviously don't have any numbers to back that up.. but just for sake of arguement) because of the luxury tax a crappy team has to pay that has to hurt.. Jazz tickets upper bowls are around 25 bucks. I wouldn't be able to go to games if they were upper 60s for upper bowl tickets.. but.. only a 6th of the league usually pays the luxury tax.. I believe only 4 or 5 teams payed it last season.. but when you have so much good talent you better believe they'd do it if they'd win a championship, it just sucks for us cheap ass fans who like going to games and buying food at the games, even if its over priced.
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this made me out loud laugh.. I love the Jazz and all.. heh but Okur doing a "sports drink" commercial was out right hilarious..
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[quote name='urzishra14']I don't think its much of an exaggeration on my part.. I thought the majority of the media were really hyped up on Oden (like they are on many players). But like I said I'm no GM, just when scouts say Durrant was more NBA ready, its kinda hard not to take a guy like that, especially with the amazing young team Portland is putting together. Obviously if they didn't take him and Oden turns into the next dominating big man in the NBA like Shaq is..how do you live with yourself. and if you take a guy like Oden who is at least big, he has more trade value down the line if he doesn't pan out.
Kobe wouldn't have gotten those kinds of numbers if Shaq wasn't taking up the majority of the defensive with him. Kobe is an amazing player and he puts up those kinds of MVP numbers when they let him play one on one and if he doesn't have the shot, he needs to have some teammates that he can rely on and share the load.. Even Jordan had a Paxton or Kerr or Pippin.. there is no one else on the Lakers right now that I'd be afraid of to just hit shots.. (oh wait now there is with Derek Fisher.. he makes 4-9 a game, but thats a CLUTCH 4-9 a game.. if you don't get the joke check out www.harpringsucks.com )
I'm just saying with Oden or Durrant, its hard to pick which one. now everyone is saying Durrant, but he went into the summer league and was amazing, so was a lot of players, and Oden didn't play much and thats kinda disheartening for Portland fans.
I don't know if anyone here goes to NYK games, but I bet the fans are feeling the hot dog prices. Me, a few bucks doesn't bother me, but for people who like going to games and upper bowl back of the house seats cost 70 dollars (I obviously don't have any numbers to back that up.. but just for sake of arguement) because of the luxury tax a crappy team has to pay that has to hurt.. Jazz tickets upper bowls are around 25 bucks. I wouldn't be able to go to games if they were upper 60s for upper bowl tickets.. but.. only a 6th of the league usually pays the luxury tax.. I believe only 4 or 5 teams payed it last season.. but when you have so much good talent you better believe they'd do it if they'd win a championship, it just sucks for us cheap ass fans who like going to games and buying food at the games, even if its over priced.[/QUOTE]
Well, Portland was in a jam. With any rookie, there's the bust potential. Of course like you said earlier, Oden's risk was higher, but ultimately, Portland felt they needed a big man to complete the picture. But like I said, hindsight is 20/20. Of course people are now saying "Shit, should've got Durant," but that's something we got to live with.
I fully believe in Kevin Pritchard, he has single handedly helped turn this SOL franchise into a young team with loads of potential, however that potential has to be realized and that' still to be seen. But if you're a Blazer fan, it's hard not to get excited.
As for ticket prices, $70 for upper bowl at a Knicks game? That's ridiculous. I think at the Rose Garden you can get tickets for like $15 - $20, but that's the 300 level. They had packages last season where it was 2 tickets to 3 games for $88, and you usually got a shirt or a bobblehead or something, just ridiculous. Of course, those also were 300 level seats and also because we sucked but still. And as for NYC, that's because Isaiah Thomas is a moron =p
Kobe wouldn't have gotten those kinds of numbers if Shaq wasn't taking up the majority of the defensive with him. Kobe is an amazing player and he puts up those kinds of MVP numbers when they let him play one on one and if he doesn't have the shot, he needs to have some teammates that he can rely on and share the load.. Even Jordan had a Paxton or Kerr or Pippin.. there is no one else on the Lakers right now that I'd be afraid of to just hit shots.. (oh wait now there is with Derek Fisher.. he makes 4-9 a game, but thats a CLUTCH 4-9 a game.. if you don't get the joke check out www.harpringsucks.com )
I'm just saying with Oden or Durrant, its hard to pick which one. now everyone is saying Durrant, but he went into the summer league and was amazing, so was a lot of players, and Oden didn't play much and thats kinda disheartening for Portland fans.
I don't know if anyone here goes to NYK games, but I bet the fans are feeling the hot dog prices. Me, a few bucks doesn't bother me, but for people who like going to games and upper bowl back of the house seats cost 70 dollars (I obviously don't have any numbers to back that up.. but just for sake of arguement) because of the luxury tax a crappy team has to pay that has to hurt.. Jazz tickets upper bowls are around 25 bucks. I wouldn't be able to go to games if they were upper 60s for upper bowl tickets.. but.. only a 6th of the league usually pays the luxury tax.. I believe only 4 or 5 teams payed it last season.. but when you have so much good talent you better believe they'd do it if they'd win a championship, it just sucks for us cheap ass fans who like going to games and buying food at the games, even if its over priced.[/QUOTE]
Well, Portland was in a jam. With any rookie, there's the bust potential. Of course like you said earlier, Oden's risk was higher, but ultimately, Portland felt they needed a big man to complete the picture. But like I said, hindsight is 20/20. Of course people are now saying "Shit, should've got Durant," but that's something we got to live with.
I fully believe in Kevin Pritchard, he has single handedly helped turn this SOL franchise into a young team with loads of potential, however that potential has to be realized and that' still to be seen. But if you're a Blazer fan, it's hard not to get excited.
As for ticket prices, $70 for upper bowl at a Knicks game? That's ridiculous. I think at the Rose Garden you can get tickets for like $15 - $20, but that's the 300 level. They had packages last season where it was 2 tickets to 3 games for $88, and you usually got a shirt or a bobblehead or something, just ridiculous. Of course, those also were 300 level seats and also because we sucked but still. And as for NYC, that's because Isaiah Thomas is a moron =p
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According to an online translation of Andrei Kirilenko's Russian blog, he is officially asking to be traded by the Utah Jazz.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695211399,00.html
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695211399,00.html
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[quote name='alucard8319']According to an online translation of Andrei Kirilenko's Russian blog, he is officially asking to be traded by the Utah Jazz.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695211399,00.html[/QUOTE]
yes he is asking to be traded... well not necessarily traded but "derek fishered" out of his contract so he can "supposidly" play in Russia or European League team.
Deron Williams called him out in an interview today on the local sports station he was quoted on jazzfanz.com as saying
[quote name='Deron Williams']"who do you think that you're going to pass the ball to when harp or AK come off a pick and you've seen who's busting their butt in practice?"
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I've been to Jazz games where AK doesn't even come out for warm ups, or if he does he does very very light warm ups. and for someone as needy as like "I need to get involved" well when you don't apply yourself. There is no reason that busted up Harpring should be the best outlet of those choices.
Anyways, rumor has it here in Utah that he'll be traded "within two weeks" and it seems more likely he'll get traded to an East team.. (or the best trade I saw that I liked was AK, Giricek, Jaron Collins for Raja Bell and Marion.. heh.. no possible way though)
With the numbers he put up last year, he isn't worth the contract he signed, although the Jazz have no problems paying him that if he played like Matt Harpring plays or how Millsap plays.. he just needs to "want" to play and I just can't believe he'd be happier on a "lesser" team (i mean look at Kobe, he's argueably the best player in the league on a mediocre team and he's upset, heh speaking of which "Hey LA want AK for Kobe.. " thats extremely unlikely as Kobe basically has a say on which team he goes to and if he gets traded.. but anyways..
if AK did what AK was good at (slashing to the basket, hitting the jumpers he has, being a beast on defense) but he's been accused of being a stat watcher.
and while I've always defended AK, he's one of my all time favorite players, there just no way I could walk away from the 60+ million the Jazz owe him to go play in Europe, and when you make the Max like he does, he should be doing what the coach wants him to do, because thats what they pay him to do. I mean the Jazz arguably have the most talented front court in all of basketball yet 1/3 of it wasn't effective for the majority of last season.. and then Memo has fallen off the face of the Earth.. so ..
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695211399,00.html[/QUOTE]
yes he is asking to be traded... well not necessarily traded but "derek fishered" out of his contract so he can "supposidly" play in Russia or European League team.
Deron Williams called him out in an interview today on the local sports station he was quoted on jazzfanz.com as saying
[quote name='Deron Williams']"who do you think that you're going to pass the ball to when harp or AK come off a pick and you've seen who's busting their butt in practice?"
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I've been to Jazz games where AK doesn't even come out for warm ups, or if he does he does very very light warm ups. and for someone as needy as like "I need to get involved" well when you don't apply yourself. There is no reason that busted up Harpring should be the best outlet of those choices.
Anyways, rumor has it here in Utah that he'll be traded "within two weeks" and it seems more likely he'll get traded to an East team.. (or the best trade I saw that I liked was AK, Giricek, Jaron Collins for Raja Bell and Marion.. heh.. no possible way though)
With the numbers he put up last year, he isn't worth the contract he signed, although the Jazz have no problems paying him that if he played like Matt Harpring plays or how Millsap plays.. he just needs to "want" to play and I just can't believe he'd be happier on a "lesser" team (i mean look at Kobe, he's argueably the best player in the league on a mediocre team and he's upset, heh speaking of which "Hey LA want AK for Kobe.. " thats extremely unlikely as Kobe basically has a say on which team he goes to and if he gets traded.. but anyways..
if AK did what AK was good at (slashing to the basket, hitting the jumpers he has, being a beast on defense) but he's been accused of being a stat watcher.
and while I've always defended AK, he's one of my all time favorite players, there just no way I could walk away from the 60+ million the Jazz owe him to go play in Europe, and when you make the Max like he does, he should be doing what the coach wants him to do, because thats what they pay him to do. I mean the Jazz arguably have the most talented front court in all of basketball yet 1/3 of it wasn't effective for the majority of last season.. and then Memo has fallen off the face of the Earth.. so ..
bread's done