NES - Generation NEX™ $59.99 Free ship @ PlayMessiah.com

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Tired of your crappy old NES check out this one:

Only 1.5 Inches tall. Built in 2.4GHz Wireless. Dual Cartridge compatibility NES/FamiCom.



Includes:

Slim Sexy Design
Built in 2.4GHz Wireless Support
Dual Cartridge Slots NES/FamiCom
Stereo and Dual Mono
Includes One Wired Controller
AV & AC Accessories
Operation Manual


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http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/index.htm
 
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[quote name='GreenMonkey']Actually, yes, they would. Learn more about it before declaring it so. If the output chip on the Generation NEX supported it we could have NES with less chroma error/etc. Much sharper. It's not the game that needs to support it, it's the video output hardware.

Especially on my 100" screen, these things matter to me. Why bother with a 3rd party NES, except for maybe the blinking screen problem. And for $60 you could buy an original 1st party NES-101 toploading NES.

Reports on responses to questions about this from the Generation NEX people was that they could have done it but didn't think anyone cared about it. Typical. Probably would have only cost them another couple dollars to do it.

Still no reports on compatibility?[/QUOTE]

This is from the Frequantly asked questions portion of the site.
Q: Will it support S-Video?
A: No, because the old software won't support S-video. We could have converted the AV outputs to S-video but it would have added a lot of cost and given no benefit to the video quality
Here is the link.
http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/gnex_faq.htm
So green monkey learn what you are talking about before you make a guess.
 
Most NES's that don't work (blinking light, etc) can be fixed with a new 72 pin connector. They're very cheap. I ordered mine off EBay for around $7, half of which was a shipping charge. I'll stick with the NES I've had for around 17 or 18 years now.
 
The resolution of the Nintendo NES is 256 x 240. An S-video or Component video is extreme overkill and like they said it is pointless. The ROM issue has been beaten to death. Let it go people. You have no say in what companies do and don't do. I have seen pictures of this thing next to the original NES and man is it tiny. It is about the size of the door on the NES + that one inch space to the left of the door.. The carts also stick out of the front when inserted ala the top loader NES. I have to say I think this may be worth getting and be alot better than the other knock-off Nintendo systems from China.
 
last say in roms: Go find any nintendo manual, they say something among the lines of "Having possesion of this game does not give you the right to copy it". Go on, find one. I only use emulators for edited games becayse there us ni ither way to get them.

If u have the money get an NEX, I'm sure that all of this hype isnt up for nothing.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']ROM stands for Read Only Memory.

A CD-Rom or CD-r that has been finalised are ROMs.

Do you listen to music, sinner?[/QUOTE]
Just saw this: Doe the discs say on them copying this is illegal?
plus roms are just the nickname for a cartridge copy, almost everything is read only memory (well of course besides the writeable memory)
 
I'm going to throw in a late 2 cents about the Midway Treasures and Sonic compilations mentioned on the first page. I'm pretty sure the following statements weren't stated accordingly:

1) The companies that made the games are making the compilations
2) See #1

So, they aren't infringing on anyone for starters. And a ROM (.bin, .fig, .smc, .smd, .gg, .rom, etc.) is generally an amalgamation of smaller roms copied together into one file. Anyone who tinkered with emulators back in the mid-late 90's may recall the classic "copy /b file1.bin+file2.bin+file3.bin..." from before all of them were done this way. The companies do make ROMs from the data and emulate them. ROMs floating around the internet very much probably are illegal, though the claim to cart dumping seems to fly so far since prosecuting the millions of kids with SMB on their HD would be a waste of time/money and be bad for PR.

The Revolution will be capable of playing Nintendo's entire backlog of games, though stated that way I still wonder if they got rights to all the 3rd party games, or if we'll be granted access to 20 years of Mario, Zelda and Metroid. Cost also hasn't been mentioned as far as I know either.

ROMS illegal? Yup, not that anyone really cares for games over 2-4 years old though. So snagging the recent Metal Slug games probably does piss off SNK-Playmore. So they're more of a liability risk that bothers admins about the potential for legal threats, while most places run along fine.

Oh, reverse engineering in the US has been deemed in at least one unappealed court case as a valid form of making something. I totally forget the case, but don't recall any info about it being overturned after the judge declared it.
 
I'll buy one if the Gamestop I work at actually gets one in. Im going to look in the computer system tomorrow and if so, pre-order one.

I like the look and the wireless controllers are cool, too bad they have to be purchased seperately though.
 
I like how small it is and the games go in the front which keeps it small.

I plan on getting one but it would've been a slam dunk if they had packed in one of their wireless controllers . . .

fuck I would want one of the wireless controllers with it and then the whole thing would be perfect . . . but that's another $30.

Gamestop sells them
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=802097

If EB had it I would get one with my flipping credit . . . so maybe after the merger I will use my EB/GS to get one as I sever my relationship with EB because I despise GS.
 
[quote name='cyrix`']last say in roms: Go find any nintendo manual, they say something among the lines of "Having possesion of this game does not give you the right to copy it". Go on, find one. I only use emulators for edited games becayse there us ni ither way to get them.[/QUOTE]

arent you just a saint.
 
I like how small it is and the games go in the front which keeps it small.

I plan on getting one but it would've been a slam dunk if they had packed in one of their wireless controllers . . .
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No kidding. I'm all for it if I don't have to worry about the flashing light problem ever again. I realize how the new 72 pin connectors work, but the NES still isn't the most reliable piece of hardware these days even after a new pin connector.
 
[quote name='cyrix`']last say in roms: Go find any nintendo manual, they say something among the lines of "Having possesion of this game does not give you the right to copy it". [/QUOTE]

Nintendo can say whatever they want to in their manuals. They can declare the sky is purple in the manual if they want. It doesn't mean they have any legal backing.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']See my previous comment... that would apply to reverse-engineering, again against the EULA.[/QUOTE]


That's interesting, I don't remember reading an EULA when I bought my NES...
 
[quote name='thefunmachine']This is from the Frequantly asked questions portion of the site.
Q: Will it support S-Video?
A: No, because the old software won't support S-video. We could have converted the AV outputs to S-video but it would have added a lot of cost and given no benefit to the video quality
Here is the link.
http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/gnex_faq.htm
So green monkey learn what you are talking about before you make a guess.[/QUOTE]

OMG

grrr

Always with the uninformed declaring "the way it is". The software no more needs to support seperating the chroma/luma information or whatever any more than video needs too.

The software doesn't have to support it, only the hardware. The original NES did not seperate chroma/luma and there is no easy way to seperate them with a hardware mod.

Playmessiah could have chosen to have support in their clone. They chose not to. This is a cop-out from the playmessiah folks who didn't feel like bothering with it.

Go read here, some people there know more about it...he also comments that arcade NES hardware could output RGB, it was done internally by the video chip.

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70095&st=25

I prefer real NES, but a HTPC could output a much better NES image. I don't want to mess around with one, though, a NES supporting s-video would have been very nice, and combined with the no-flashing thing, maybe worthwhile spending $60 on. I'm sticking with my boxy NES w/ new 72-pin connector - from the local mom n' pop store - $30.


Again, anyone see any compatibility reports yet? I'd like to know what is working and what isn't. And I'd like to hear how the wireless controllers are as well.
 
I really like these but I just fixed up my 20 year old NES pretty recently, and it works great. I also have on of those Yobo FC consoles which plays Famicom carts and came with the adaptor for NES carts. I've been thinking about getting some of their wireless controllers for NES and SNES though.

That money would probably be better spent on the Atari Flashback 2. Those are sweet...
 
Let's see:

I have four working original NES systems.

I have the badass toploader NES in my living room.

All the NES games on my Dreamcast AND my PSP.

No thanks. :)
 
[quote name='emperordahc']Let's see:

I have four working original NES systems.

I have the badass toploader NES in my living room.

All the NES games on my Dreamcast AND my PSP.

No thanks. :)[/QUOTE]

Man, I wanted one of those but everytime I see one in the price is way too much. I ended up buying some godawful clone that doesn't work. I can't remember the name of it right now. I did find my second NES that works somewhat better but I still have too many issues with blinking.
 
I assume that everyone knows by now that this is a piece of crap and isn't compatible with the vast majority of NES games. It's buggy as hell and isn't worth $20, much less $60.
 
I have one of these sitting next to my XBOX and PS2. It plays everything you can throw at it. Can't wait to try some Famicom games because it plays them too!
 
[quote name='nwaugh']I assume that everyone knows by now that this is a piece of crap and isn't compatible with the vast majority of NES games. It's buggy as hell and isn't worth $20, much less $60.[/QUOTE]

I thought it hadn't been released yet?
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I thought it hadn't been released yet?[/QUOTE]
Supposedly they shipped Oct. 22nd, and it looks like people have them given the review I posted above.
 
Let me see if I can pour some gas on the ROM fire.

1. Is an EULA a legally binding contract?

Well, that depends. Did you sign it?

During computer software installation, there is typically a required checkbox that says "I agree to the EULA" or some such thing forcing the user to agree to the EULA before installation can proceed.

In the case of an EULA printed in a manual, there is no mechanism forcing the user to agree to it.

Let's try an asinine example: You own your house free and clear. Seriously, you just paid off your mortgage and taxes. I walk up and knock on the door. I sell you a rock you want for $1. The rock is wrapped in a piece of paper. On that piece of paper, it reads, "EULA: If you ever drop the rock, I own your house." In shock, you drop the rock. Do I now own your house? Of couse not.

Let me add another caveat: Let's say you bought the cartridge by itself. You've never seen the EULA. Can a document be enforced if it has never been seen? Of course not.

2. What are the company's damages?

Is the item currently readily available for sale in its original condition? How much money did the company make off of the item in the last 1-10 years? Is the company rereleased the item in the near future? Did the perpetrator make (not save) any money from the item?

If the perp can't buy the item in major retailers, the company hasn't made money off of the game or its characters in a long time, the company has not announced plans of releasing the game in a compilation or rereleasing it on its own AND the perp wasn't selling it, what are the company's damages? How did the company lose any money?

Courts might find you guilty, but give you no accompanying punishment.

Anyways, I hope that fans the flames.
 
I was so excited for this thing.. but I checked their compatability list and it kinda sucks.. I remember Castlevania 3 standing out as a real good game that wasn't supported.. I know there were others too. Guess I'll stick with my old NES with its brand new 72 pin.
 
If this thing came with the wireless controllers it would be worth 59.99 but just a system with wired controllers doesn't seem like a good deal.
 
Too many games don't work on it if you have a good set of games, but if you have like 20 average ones then your okay.
 
wtf is with all these people bitching and moaning about legality of roms and eula's and crap. stfu already. we don't give a crap about your stupid opinion.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Let me see if I can pour some gas on the ROM fire.

1. Is an EULA a legally binding contract?

Well, that depends. Did you sign it?

During computer software installation, there is typically a required checkbox that says "I agree to the EULA" or some such thing forcing the user to agree to the EULA before installation can proceed.

In the case of an EULA printed in a manual, there is no mechanism forcing the user to agree to it.

Let's try an asinine example: You own your house free and clear. Seriously, you just paid off your mortgage and taxes. I walk up and knock on the door. I sell you a rock you want for $1. The rock is wrapped in a piece of paper. On that piece of paper, it reads, "EULA: If you ever drop the rock, I own your house." In shock, you drop the rock. Do I now own your house? Of couse not.

Let me add another caveat: Let's say you bought the cartridge by itself. You've never seen the EULA. Can a document be enforced if it has never been seen? Of course not.

2. What are the company's damages?

Is the item currently readily available for sale in its original condition? How much money did the company make off of the item in the last 1-10 years? Is the company rereleased the item in the near future? Did the perpetrator make (not save) any money from the item?

If the perp can't buy the item in major retailers, the company hasn't made money off of the game or its characters in a long time, the company has not announced plans of releasing the game in a compilation or rereleasing it on its own AND the perp wasn't selling it, what are the company's damages? How did the company lose any money?

Courts might find you guilty, but give you no accompanying punishment.

Anyways, I hope that fans the flames.[/QUOTE]
bah, who cares. let those people who think they're lawyers keep rambling on and on. no one cares what they think.
 
[quote name='Requiem']Isnt this system illegal? I thought Nintendo was trying to stop these guys last I read.[/QUOTE]

Nope, not really. There are no built-in games...whats the problem?
 
[quote name='tek2k']wtf is with all these people bitching and moaning about legality of roms and eula's and crap. stfu already. we don't give a crap about your stupid opinion.[/QUOTE]

Same to you.
 
Pretty much all the reviews I've seen say this is cheap, and crap. My recomendation, search for some reviews. They usually cite compatability issues (major) and that the controller that comes with it is crappy. Like CRAPPY.

Word is that (anti-)Messiah just used a crappy NOC, and probably didn't actually develop their own like they seemed to claim. The one they use just is poor.

Anyone have one who would be willing to refute what all the people say? I really was excited about this...
 
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