NES - Generation NEX™ $59.99 Free ship @ PlayMessiah.com

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Epic Wolf

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Tired of your crappy old NES check out this one:

Only 1.5 Inches tall. Built in 2.4GHz Wireless. Dual Cartridge compatibility NES/FamiCom.



Includes:

Slim Sexy Design
Built in 2.4GHz Wireless Support
Dual Cartridge Slots NES/FamiCom
Stereo and Dual Mono
Includes One Wired Controller
AV & AC Accessories
Operation Manual


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How reliable is this system though? I remember a lot of NES knockoffs and they were pretty terrible... (But, I'm not even interested because my NES works perfectly...)
 
I have to admit that is the best NES clone I've seen yet.

I'd still rather fix up an old one that I could get for less than 10 dollars.
 
Gamestop is selling them too with preorder for Sept 20th.... I'm interested to see one instore. I'd probably put up $40 for it right now, but I'd like to try that controller out, I've heard its pretty good when you get used to it. Maybe that'll sell me on one :)
 
i dont get the fascination for this thing....theres lots of emulators and roms all over the net to play old nes games. why pay 3.00 up for a used nes game when you can play them for free if you look for them around the net.
 
I could have sworn these guys had a SNES console as well, but I only see controllers on their site. I am surprised the NEX will be so widely available, I would have figured Nintendo would be putting a stop to it.
 
[quote name='Darwin23']i dont get the fascination for this thing....theres lots of emulators and roms all over the net to play old nes games. why pay 3.00 up for a used nes game when you can play them for free if you look for them around the net.[/QUOTE]

Some people could still have games lying around. For others like myself, it just feels more natural to play on a console. I don't really like playing roms. I'd rather have the console.
 
[quote name='davidmt']I could have sworn these guys had a SNES console as well, but I only see controllers on their site. I am surprised the NEX will be so widely available, I would have figured Nintendo would be putting a stop to it.[/QUOTE]

Patents are typically 20 years in duration. The NES was patented in the US in 1985, which now means the patent for the NES has expired. This in turn means companies can manufacture and sell the system unimpeded.

Send in the clones.
 
[quote name='cyrix`']roms are also illegal not matter what you do with them.[/QUOTE]

That was an ignorent comment. Does that mean Zelda Collector's Edition is illegal? It's just and emulator with some roms. Same with Sega Smashpack, Sonic Mega Collection, Midway Arcade Treasures, etc. How can these companies sell these roms if "roms are illegal"?
 
[quote name='Morrigan Lover']That was an ignorent comment. Does that mean Zelda Collector's Edition is illegal? It's just and emulator with some roms. Same with Sega Smashpack, Sonic Mega Collection, Midway Arcade Treasures, etc. How can these companies sell these roms if "roms are illegal"?[/QUOTE]


I think it's pretty clear what he meant. The "roms" you mentioned are clearly licensed products
 
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EDIT: Only works when you preorder at J2Games.com IF you purchase 4 NES games with it you also get free shipping.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Can someone enlighten me as to why it would need wireless?[/QUOTE]

They also sell wireless controllers separately.
 
[quote name='kaw']They also sell wireless controllers separately.[/QUOTE]

Right, but all of their wireless controllers come with wireless receivers, so why do you need built-in wireless receivers. I'd guess it's probably for aesthetics/to save space.
 
Was watching this for some months since it was announced

#1) Compatibility still unknown
#2) Wireless controllers are very expensive, considering
#3) No s-video or component video support cause they were trying to save money

I'm sticking with my old boxy NES & composite yellow video/mono audio cables.
 
[quote name='GreenMonkey']Was watching this for some months since it was announced

#1) Compatibility still unknown
#2) Wireless controllers are very expensive, considering
#3) No s-video or component video support cause they were trying to save money

I'm sticking with my old boxy NES & composite yellow video/mono audio cables.[/QUOTE]

say's clearly that it will feature Dual Cartridge compatibility NES/FamiCom.
 
I have this companies Nes and Snes wireless controllers and I can vouch for the quality of their products. About the only aspect of the controllers I didn't like was the fact that the start and select buttons were 'membranes' and not actual buttons. Other than that they work and feel fine to me.

They are a little pricey to be sure, but I bought them before I was a cheapass gamer, and before I got married. ;) But as for needing wireless... the ability to play Earthbound while laying in bed under the covers on a cold winter night is not to be underestimated.

I doubt I'll bebuying this unit however. I already have plenty of machines cabable of playing Nes games.
 
[quote name='davidmt']I could have sworn these guys had a SNES console as well, but I only see controllers on their site. I am surprised the NEX will be so widely available, I would have figured Nintendo would be putting a stop to it.[/QUOTE]

There is nothing nintendo can do...the patents on the NES have expired. You have to wait for the SNES to get 20 years old before they can do the same on the SNES.
 
[quote name='Indiana']There is nothing nintendo can do...the patents on the NES have expired. You have to wait for the SNES to get 20 years old before they can do the same on the SNES.[/QUOTE]


The only was Nintendo could have stopped this from happening was to begin manufacturing the Nes again. You can apply for Patent renewal, but you must show that you are still using the patent. Since the Big 'N' hasn't made a Nes system since the toploader of the early 90's, anyone can now use the technology.
 
[quote name='cyrix`']roms are also illegal not matter what you do with them.[/QUOTE]

Last time I checked, ROMs are completely legal IF you own the actual physical copy of the game. Obviously there is no way of anyone knowing that, so its very questionable and up to the individual.
 
[quote name='Epic Wolf']say's clearly that it will feature Dual Cartridge compatibility NES/FamiCom.[/QUOTE]

Compatibility as in, what games won't work. All of the fami-clones so far have some games that are badly emulated (probably a result of the nes on a chip hardware). We'll see how this system fares.
 
I pre-ordered, although I have a working NES that I rebuilt. Not bad to have backup just in case. And the Famicom slot is a bonus.
 
[quote name='NiVRaM']Last time I checked, ROMs are completely legal IF you own the actual physical copy of the game. Obviously there is no way of anyone knowing that, so its very questionable and up to the individual.[/QUOTE]

Whatever you checked was wrong. All EULA's as well as the DMCA (iirc) contain clauses barring any sort of backup/duplicate copies as well as clauses barring any sort of reverse-engineering (which is required to be able to produce or use said ROM).

Its illegal, pure and simple. No grey area, no justification.. illegal.
 
With the patent expired, they could take the guts of an NES and put them strait into a new box and I don't think Nintendo could touch them.

[quote name='GreenMonkey']Compatibility as in, what games won't work. All of the fami-clones so far have some games that are badly emulated (probably a result of the nes on a chip hardware). We'll see how this system fares.[/QUOTe]
 
[quote name='Kayden']With the patent expired, they could take the guts of an NES and put them strait into a new box and I don't think Nintendo could touch them.[/QUOTE]

See my previous comment... that would apply to reverse-engineering, again against the EULA.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']Whatever you checked was wrong. All EULA's as well as the DMCA (iirc) contain clauses barring any sort of backup/duplicate copies as well as clauses barring any sort of reverse-engineering (which is required to be able to produce or use said ROM).

Its illegal, pure and simple. No grey area, no justification.. illegal.[/QUOTE]

Let me be the first to come out and say that I don't care! No need to fool ourselves with justifications that we really don't believe are true, deep down. Just come out and say you don't care. I know I don't!
 
This fucking thing is sexy but I do agree with the beef on no Component or S-Video, that shouldn't even be an afterthought since we're in the era of HDTV's.
Cornfed so basically you're telling me that if I bought "Mystic Ark" so I could legally have the ROM I should just delete it even though the cartridge is only available in Japanese!
Who knows if Enix will release this in English on VCS anyway.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']Whatever you checked was wrong. All EULA's as well as the DMCA (iirc) contain clauses barring any sort of backup/duplicate copies as well as clauses barring any sort of reverse-engineering (which is required to be able to produce or use said ROM).

Its illegal, pure and simple. No grey area, no justification.. illegal.[/QUOTE]

Or, the EULAs themselves may be illegal. As far as I know, there hasn't been a legal case where someone has made a backup copy of software they legally own and been sued for breaking their EULA. Since the US copyright act (even with the DMCA) still has a clause stating that it is legal to make a backup of software that you legally own, it remains to be seen whether EULAs (especially those which you are forced to agree to just by taking the shrinkwrap off software) can legally override that. Similarly with reverse engineering, there was a court case (Atari vs. someone, if I remember correctly) that established it was perfectly legal to reverse engineer something that you own a legal copy of, so again whether the EULA can override that has yet to be tested.
 
Isn't a key feature of Nintendo's upcoming console, Revolution, the ability to play all NES games (through downloaded content)? If so, I'll think I'll wait for that.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']Whatever you checked was wrong. All EULA's as well as the DMCA (iirc) contain clauses barring any sort of backup/duplicate copies as well as clauses barring any sort of reverse-engineering (which is required to be able to produce or use said ROM).

Its illegal, pure and simple. No grey area, no justification.. illegal.[/QUOTE]

It's legal if you make the backup yourself off of your own media, as long as any protections on the media are not removed or compromised. Otherwise, it's illegal.
 
its tempting to get something like this since my nes isnt perfect... but im worried that batteries will be dying in my nes games, maybe ill just wait and see how much games cost on the revolution
 
[quote name='cyrix`']roms are also illegal not matter what you do with them.[/QUOTE]
ROM stands for Read Only Memory.

A CD-Rom or CD-r that has been finalised are ROMs.

Do you listen to music, sinner?
 
[quote name='davidmt']I could have sworn these guys had a SNES console as well, but I only see controllers on their site. I am surprised the NEX will be so widely available, I would have figured Nintendo would be putting a stop to it.[/QUOTE]

sorry if this was anwsered before.. their license to exclusively make the hardware ran out last year this is why they can't do anything to stop these makers from making new "nes" systems. (there is an article about it in the last EGM)

EDIT: for everyone whining about S-video and the like.. think about it.. this is 1985 technology.. would your NES games look any better with S-video?.. no.. because they weren't designed with S-video in mind.
 
but also.. does this mean developers might start making games for them again? (or does the big N still hold patents on the cartridges?)
 
[quote name='urzishra14']

EDIT: for everyone whining about S-video and the like.. think about it.. this is 1985 technology.. would your NES games look any better with S-video?.. no.. because they weren't designed with S-video in mind.[/QUOTE]

Actually, yes, they would. Learn more about it before declaring it so. If the output chip on the Generation NEX supported it we could have NES with less chroma error/etc. Much sharper. It's not the game that needs to support it, it's the video output hardware.

Especially on my 100" screen, these things matter to me. Why bother with a 3rd party NES, except for maybe the blinking screen problem. And for $60 you could buy an original 1st party NES-101 toploading NES.

Reports on responses to questions about this from the Generation NEX people was that they could have done it but didn't think anyone cared about it. Typical. Probably would have only cost them another couple dollars to do it.

Still no reports on compatibility?
 
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