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I think a great way to improve streaming would be to put more exercise and instructional DVDs on there. Ditto on screensaver DVDs like the yuletide log or virtual aquarium.
I know the movie studios are getting bitchy, but that's when you have to get creative!
I know the movie studios are getting bitchy, but that's when you have to get creative!
The increase means cancelling cable for me. It's the far larger expense, and it seems to get increasingly more expensive each year.
I don't see netflix having trouble unless more and more providers move away from flate rate and into tiered plans. At which point netflix streaming (and online video/gaming in general) is in a heap of trouble.
I don't see netflix having trouble unless more and more providers move away from flate rate and into tiered plans. At which point netflix streaming (and online video/gaming in general) is in a heap of trouble.
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I wager that the increase in disc plans is subsidizing the streaming licensing increases.[/QUOTE]
Of course. Because what they've done is add the $7.99 streaming fee to the disc fees. While making the disc only plans cheaper.
But yes, streaming prices will continue to rise. For me it's not worth it currently as the quality isn't great (still a lot of stuff no in HD streaming that is available on Blu-ray, and the HD streaming isn't near Blu-ray quality) and the selection is still very lacking of new releases and major, popular movies in general.
If down the road they can get streaming quality closer to Blu-ray and vastly improve the selection, then maybe I'll add it back or switch to a streaming only plan--even if price up a good bit from the current $7.99. But for the current content and quality it's not worth $8 a month extra to me.
I wager that the increase in disc plans is subsidizing the streaming licensing increases.[/QUOTE]
Of course. Because what they've done is add the $7.99 streaming fee to the disc fees. While making the disc only plans cheaper.
But yes, streaming prices will continue to rise. For me it's not worth it currently as the quality isn't great (still a lot of stuff no in HD streaming that is available on Blu-ray, and the HD streaming isn't near Blu-ray quality) and the selection is still very lacking of new releases and major, popular movies in general.
If down the road they can get streaming quality closer to Blu-ray and vastly improve the selection, then maybe I'll add it back or switch to a streaming only plan--even if price up a good bit from the current $7.99. But for the current content and quality it's not worth $8 a month extra to me.
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We've made the tentative decision to go with streaming only. We dropped down to 1 out at a time blu-rays and it use to be we had 2 out and would watch one and even sometimes both the night they came. Now with a kid it's nothing for the disc to sit there two nights before being watched.
I bet a lot of people have gotten hooked on streaming with various devices and will go with that. I wonder how/if this will will affect blu-ray player sales.
I bet a lot of people have gotten hooked on streaming with various devices and will go with that. I wonder how/if this will will affect blu-ray player sales.
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I bet a lot of people have gotten hooked on streaming with various devices and will go with that. I wonder how/if this will will affect blu-ray player sales.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it will have much impact on that. The majority of rentals and sales each week are of new releases, and streaming isn't much of a threat as long as it lacks the vast majority of those.
I bet a lot of people have gotten hooked on streaming with various devices and will go with that. I wonder how/if this will will affect blu-ray player sales.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it will have much impact on that. The majority of rentals and sales each week are of new releases, and streaming isn't much of a threat as long as it lacks the vast majority of those.
[quote name='thrustbucket']You people need to realize that the pricing you've been paying for Netflix streaming so far has been an "early adopter in a brand new market" price. The license holders, until now, have mostly treated Netflix like a cute novelty and a way to make a few extra bucks - charging very little for license fees.
Today is a different game. Reports are all over that the studios are now pissed. They see how much netflix is taking and they want a cut. They see that streaming is where everything is headed and they are now hedging their bets.
It's estimated that Netflix's licensing costs will increase 10x over the next year.
Should they just eat that and keep the same pricing? What business does that?
The honeymoon is over. Streaming will slowly increase in cost closer to the cost of cable over the next decade (offering closer to the same product). That's a fact we need to just get use to.
I wager that the increase in disc plans is subsidizing the streaming licensing increases.[/QUOTE]
While licensing might increase slowly, competition will take over in the next 5 years. I think what will end up happening is exclusive contracts. What am I saying? I KNOW that will happen. Yes, studios are a bit adamant to this whole streaming change. They feel it's a bit....low. haha, seriously. They are so used to their contracts with cable.
Today is a different game. Reports are all over that the studios are now pissed. They see how much netflix is taking and they want a cut. They see that streaming is where everything is headed and they are now hedging their bets.
It's estimated that Netflix's licensing costs will increase 10x over the next year.
Should they just eat that and keep the same pricing? What business does that?
The honeymoon is over. Streaming will slowly increase in cost closer to the cost of cable over the next decade (offering closer to the same product). That's a fact we need to just get use to.
I wager that the increase in disc plans is subsidizing the streaming licensing increases.[/QUOTE]
While licensing might increase slowly, competition will take over in the next 5 years. I think what will end up happening is exclusive contracts. What am I saying? I KNOW that will happen. Yes, studios are a bit adamant to this whole streaming change. They feel it's a bit....low. haha, seriously. They are so used to their contracts with cable.
[quote name='Soodmeg']I wish I could get rid of cable...I only watch about 4 or 5 shows on tv and could easily miss them to save money. Its the sports man...THE SPORTS!!!! If there was someway to get just a sports only package (I dont my wife would go for that though) I would be happy with it.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't the 360 have the full ESPN thing?
Doesn't the 360 have the full ESPN thing?
No grandfathering for those who've had netflix since the beginning means I'm likely going to cut them off. There seems to be fewer new releases weekly anyways because the movie industry sucks now more than ever.
My plan would be going up to 30 bucks if I leave things as is. Bumping it down to the cheapest $16, or $20 plans feel like a ripoff since I'll be getting only half, or less of what there is now. No thanks.
I'll go back to selectively buying the few worthy movies and tv shows that pop up once in a while. More time for video games!
My plan would be going up to 30 bucks if I leave things as is. Bumping it down to the cheapest $16, or $20 plans feel like a ripoff since I'll be getting only half, or less of what there is now. No thanks.
I'll go back to selectively buying the few worthy movies and tv shows that pop up once in a while. More time for video games!
For me, $15-16 is getting too close to my cable bill and don't see Netflix being worth that much with the sub-par quality, lack of selection, and limitations (only stream on 1 device at a time when it used to be several). Rather have sports and plenty of channels for $30 instead of the Netflix selection.
[quote name='fezlopez']Doesn't the 360 have the full ESPN thing?[/QUOTE]
That only works with certain ISPs sadly.
[quote name='fezlopez']Doesn't the 360 have the full ESPN thing?[/QUOTE]
That only works with certain ISPs sadly.
[quote name='fezlopez']Doesn't the 360 have the full ESPN thing?[/QUOTE]
1. It doesn't have everything on ESPN (unless that's changed in recent months)
2. Not all sports are on ESPN or the over the air networks. Without cable satellite you'd still miss things like NBA on TNT, the games on the NBA network and NFL network, college sports on all the regional sports networks etc.
3. Not all ISPs support ESPN3. Mine doesn't, and I can't switch unless I want to pay for internet twice as internet in my building is provided via the condo fees.
So I'll always have cable/satellite for the foreseeable future as I'm a huge sports fan and want it on the TV in HD, and not on the computer in a crappy quality illegal stream.
1. It doesn't have everything on ESPN (unless that's changed in recent months)
2. Not all sports are on ESPN or the over the air networks. Without cable satellite you'd still miss things like NBA on TNT, the games on the NBA network and NFL network, college sports on all the regional sports networks etc.
3. Not all ISPs support ESPN3. Mine doesn't, and I can't switch unless I want to pay for internet twice as internet in my building is provided via the condo fees.
So I'll always have cable/satellite for the foreseeable future as I'm a huge sports fan and want it on the TV in HD, and not on the computer in a crappy quality illegal stream.
I think Netflix was incredibly cheap as it was and they must have higher licensing fees with the increased streaming selection. It's sad but this may be their way to try and get rid of DVD/Blu-ray; I think this will serve as a way to see how many people still want the discs. I am going to go the streaming only route but I am going to be annoyed as 
when I want to watch something that is disc only and I am no longer able to request it.
when I want to watch something that is disc only and I am no longer able to request it.
I had just gotten back into Netflix, mostly for the streaming of kids programming. But the streaming selection hasnt been great otherwise (IMO). I think I'm just gonna cancel completely at the end of this month (not even waiting till September) as my preferred plan (1dvd, unlimited streaming) would essentially double in cost. I only feel I'm getting my money's worth with the combination of disc/streaming, but double the cost or half the service is a deal breaker for me.
Looks like it'll either be Redbox or Cox On-Demand for me (side note, I rented my first game from Redbox today).
Looks like it'll either be Redbox or Cox On-Demand for me (side note, I rented my first game from Redbox today).
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I switched to streaming-only the last time they jacked up the price. I'm just happy it's still $7.99.
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[quote name='Soodmeg']I wish I could get rid of cable...I only watch about 4 or 5 shows on tv and could easily miss them to save money. Its the sports man...THE SPORTS!!!! If there was someway to get just a sports only package (I dont my wife would go for that though) I would be happy with it.[/QUOTE]
Same here, if I could get ESPN, NFL network and NBA-on-TNT online or somewhere else, I would drop cable completely. Right now, not much solution for the big sports fan. As for Netflix, I won't miss the DVD option much (I hope), streaming only for me so I can catch up on anime series.
Same here, if I could get ESPN, NFL network and NBA-on-TNT online or somewhere else, I would drop cable completely. Right now, not much solution for the big sports fan. As for Netflix, I won't miss the DVD option much (I hope), streaming only for me so I can catch up on anime series.
i dont think i use netflix enough to justify the increase. yeah, i use streaming every once in a while, but not that much. and as it is we are only watching a couple blu rays a month (sometimes less). my plan will go from $11.99 plus tax to $17.98 plus tax. I think we will either switch to the 1 dvd 2 per month plan with no streaming which is $5.99 (for bluray) or cancel all together.
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']i dont think i use netflix enough to justify the increase. yeah, i use streaming every once in a while, but not that much. and as it is we are only watching a couple blu rays a month (sometimes less). my plan will go from $11.99 plus tax to $17.98 plus tax. I think we will either switch to the 1 dvd 2 per month plan with no streaming which is $5.99 (for bluray) or cancel all together.[/QUOTE]
The two a month plan isn't really worth the money IMO. Much cheaper to just use Redbox for new releases and hit a local rental store if you sometimes want to watch an older movie that's not in Redbox.
The two a month plan isn't really worth the money IMO. Much cheaper to just use Redbox for new releases and hit a local rental store if you sometimes want to watch an older movie that's not in Redbox.
[quote name='nightmare452']Same here, if I could get ESPN, NFL network and NBA-on-TNT online or somewhere else, I would drop cable completely. Right now, not much solution for the big sports fan. As for Netflix, I won't miss the DVD option much (I hope), streaming only for me so I can catch up on anime series.[/QUOTE]
Same here. Though from what I understand ESPN and their affiliated channels are a big chunk of the cable bill, so some ala carte sports only package probably wouldn't be a big discount anyway.
I tried just watching games I wanted to watch at sports bars, but I spent more that way as it's hard not to get food and drinks while there for 3+ hours.
Same here. Though from what I understand ESPN and their affiliated channels are a big chunk of the cable bill, so some ala carte sports only package probably wouldn't be a big discount anyway.
I tried just watching games I wanted to watch at sports bars, but I spent more that way as it's hard not to get food and drinks while there for 3+ hours.
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well it was fun while it lasted. content on instant streaming continually gets worse, and then they raise the price? wonderful.
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oh, and paying 50+ million for mad men was the dumbest move netflix has made thus far. that show is an overrated piece of crap.
[quote name='dmaul1114']The two a month plan isn't really worth the money IMO. Much cheaper to just use Redbox for new releases and hit a local rental store if you sometimes want to watch an older movie that's not in Redbox.[/QUOTE]
my only concern with redbox is the 24 hour period. i mean, i can easily see myself forgetting for a few days and suddenly my $1.50 bluray rental is a $9 bluray rental. but who knows, maybe ill give it a go.
my only concern with redbox is the 24 hour period. i mean, i can easily see myself forgetting for a few days and suddenly my $1.50 bluray rental is a $9 bluray rental. but who knows, maybe ill give it a go.
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']my only concern with redbox is the 24 hour period. i mean, i can easily see myself forgetting for a few days and suddenly my $1.50 bluray rental is a $9 bluray rental. but who knows, maybe ill give it a go.[/QUOTE]
Very true, and that's why I don't use it. I just don't want to hassle with having to return it on time. Especially since there's not one on my drive to or from work. There are several around, but just not on my 3 mile work commute as there all in other directions in shopping centers etc.
But I also watch at least 1-2 discs a week, so Netflix's 1 disc at a time plan is worth it to me. If I was just doing 3-4 a month, I'd probably just go with Redbox and just go a bit out of the way on my way home Friday to pick one up, and then just go grocery shopping on Saturday and return it then.
Very true, and that's why I don't use it. I just don't want to hassle with having to return it on time. Especially since there's not one on my drive to or from work. There are several around, but just not on my 3 mile work commute as there all in other directions in shopping centers etc.
But I also watch at least 1-2 discs a week, so Netflix's 1 disc at a time plan is worth it to me. If I was just doing 3-4 a month, I'd probably just go with Redbox and just go a bit out of the way on my way home Friday to pick one up, and then just go grocery shopping on Saturday and return it then.
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[quote name='praxus07']Wow...can't believe netflix is increasing like that. I'll only going to be keeping the streaming portion come august. So many angry customers on that blog, can't believe netflix thinks people will be happy about this.....[/QUOTE]
I dont think their major concern was peoples happiness. I think it was holy shit Sony just increasing streaming rights to a bilgillon dollars..we are going to have to find a way to off set the cost.
Seriously, how are people this upset over very simple business practices. It was only a 5 dollar increase. I think all this does is finally separate the people who like to watch movies in general (all movies, foreign, non-main stream, indie, etc etc) from the people only want new releases. Netflix WAS NEVER for the person who wanted just new releases all the time.
Why do you think they spend most of their money on crazy ass non main stream tv shows and movies....they understood spending 20 million to bring Green Lantern to streaming 2 seconds after it left theaters was not their niche.
The amount of shows/films that wouldnt have ever even attempted to watch without netflix is staggering.
I dont think their major concern was peoples happiness. I think it was holy shit Sony just increasing streaming rights to a bilgillon dollars..we are going to have to find a way to off set the cost.
Seriously, how are people this upset over very simple business practices. It was only a 5 dollar increase. I think all this does is finally separate the people who like to watch movies in general (all movies, foreign, non-main stream, indie, etc etc) from the people only want new releases. Netflix WAS NEVER for the person who wanted just new releases all the time.
Why do you think they spend most of their money on crazy ass non main stream tv shows and movies....they understood spending 20 million to bring Green Lantern to streaming 2 seconds after it left theaters was not their niche.
The amount of shows/films that wouldnt have ever even attempted to watch without netflix is staggering.
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Seriously, how are people this upset over very simple business practices. It was only a 5 dollar increase. I think all this does is finally separate the people who like to watch movies in general (all movies, foreign, non-main stream, indie, etc etc) from the people only want new releases. Netflix WAS NEVER for the person who wanted just new releases all the time.[/QUOTE]
I think that's true, but before it was a good deal for everyone. Now the streaming and disc plans are really only a good deal for the more diehard movie watchers who really watch a lot of films each month.
At least the disc only plan is still a good value for more casual fans who mainly watch new releases. But how long is it until they scrap disc rentals and become a streaming only company?
But in all, Redbox should be very happy. There are far more casual movie watchers out there than there are film buffs. And those who cancel Netflix over this will primarily be driven to Redbox since so many local rental stores went out of business in recent years.
Seriously, how are people this upset over very simple business practices. It was only a 5 dollar increase. I think all this does is finally separate the people who like to watch movies in general (all movies, foreign, non-main stream, indie, etc etc) from the people only want new releases. Netflix WAS NEVER for the person who wanted just new releases all the time.[/QUOTE]
I think that's true, but before it was a good deal for everyone. Now the streaming and disc plans are really only a good deal for the more diehard movie watchers who really watch a lot of films each month.
At least the disc only plan is still a good value for more casual fans who mainly watch new releases. But how long is it until they scrap disc rentals and become a streaming only company?
But in all, Redbox should be very happy. There are far more casual movie watchers out there than there are film buffs. And those who cancel Netflix over this will primarily be driven to Redbox since so many local rental stores went out of business in recent years.
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^do you think Netflix thought people would be happy?
[quote name='dmaul1114']Very true, and that's why I don't use it. I just don't want to hassle with having to return it on time. Especially since there's not one on my drive to or from work. There are several around, but just not on my 3 mile work commute as there all in other directions in shopping centers etc.
But I also watch at least 1-2 discs a week, so Netflix's 1 disc at a time plan is worth it to me. If I was just doing 3-4 a month, I'd probably just go with Redbox and just go a bit out of the way on my way home Friday to pick one up, and then just go grocery shopping on Saturday and return it then.[/QUOTE]
You're complaining about the hassle because there's not a Redbox along your THREE MILE work commute?
Lazy people, holy shit.
But I also watch at least 1-2 discs a week, so Netflix's 1 disc at a time plan is worth it to me. If I was just doing 3-4 a month, I'd probably just go with Redbox and just go a bit out of the way on my way home Friday to pick one up, and then just go grocery shopping on Saturday and return it then.[/QUOTE]
You're complaining about the hassle because there's not a Redbox along your THREE MILE work commute?
Lazy people, holy shit.
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^They won't become a streaming only company, they want to refocus on DISC service, which is what they were in the first place.
Part of this price hike is probably to guage what the consumer would do and adjust it's focus again.
It's simple, customers bitched about the lack of streaming content, they got more, spent more, and now need to pass on the costs.
Now people are bitching, so they will just reduce the streaming optioins if people cancel. Therefore, saving the money they lost from lost customers.
You guys can't have it both ways.
Part of this price hike is probably to guage what the consumer would do and adjust it's focus again.
It's simple, customers bitched about the lack of streaming content, they got more, spent more, and now need to pass on the costs.
Now people are bitching, so they will just reduce the streaming optioins if people cancel. Therefore, saving the money they lost from lost customers.
You guys can't have it both ways.
It's not just a $5 increase, I'm paying $9.99 so the increase would be $6 more a month. I can't justify that much more for the amount of dvd's I get, it usually works out to four per month.
My main use for Netflix is streaming. $16 per month is just out of range of what it's worth. Getting the dvd's by mail was nice, but not worth the extra cost. Plus it comes down to the fact that I can't afford an increase of $72 per year for a few dvd's by mail.
My main use for Netflix is streaming. $16 per month is just out of range of what it's worth. Getting the dvd's by mail was nice, but not worth the extra cost. Plus it comes down to the fact that I can't afford an increase of $72 per year for a few dvd's by mail.
The streaming option is still a solid deal, and destroys anything cable and satellite companies have to offer. Besides, there's nothing much good on TV anyways these days, and even if there is, it's likely ending up on Netflix Streaming over time.
There are a lot of shows I never would have given a thought to watch. The Good Guys is a solid example, easily one of the funniest non-reality, non-cartoon shows on TV in at least the last 5 years. It's rare that a show can actually make me "laugh out loud" these days but Bradley Whitford's character really hit the spot.
There are a lot of shows I never would have given a thought to watch. The Good Guys is a solid example, easily one of the funniest non-reality, non-cartoon shows on TV in at least the last 5 years. It's rare that a show can actually make me "laugh out loud" these days but Bradley Whitford's character really hit the spot.
[quote name='praxus07']It's not just a $5 increase, I'm paying $9.99 so the increase would be $6 more a month. I can't justify that much more for the amount of dvd's I get, it usually works out to four per month.
My main use for Netflix is streaming. $16 per month is just out of range of what it's worth. Getting the dvd's by mail was nice, but not worth the extra cost. Plus it comes down to the fact that I can't afford an increase of $72 per year for a few dvd's by mail.[/QUOTE]
This... Exactly! If you're going to spend an extra $72 on DVDs you might as well go buy the ones you know you'll like with that money.
My main use for Netflix is streaming. $16 per month is just out of range of what it's worth. Getting the dvd's by mail was nice, but not worth the extra cost. Plus it comes down to the fact that I can't afford an increase of $72 per year for a few dvd's by mail.[/QUOTE]
This... Exactly! If you're going to spend an extra $72 on DVDs you might as well go buy the ones you know you'll like with that money.
[quote name='HydroX']You're complaining about the hassle because there's not a Redbox along your THREE MILE work commute?
Lazy people, holy shit.[/QUOTE]
It's not so much laziness as it just adds yet another errand to my hectic schedule. I seldom work less than 60 hours a week (and often 70-80) so adding little annoyances like having to be sure to get a movie back a Redbox that's out of my way by a mile or two is just another headache. Granted the work time is inflated from wasting too much time goofing online while working by posting on forums etc!
Besides that, I watch more than just new Hollywood releases so using Redbox exclusively isn't an option for me anyway.
[quote name='DestroVega']^They won't become a streaming only company, they want to refocus on DISC service, which is what they were in the first place.
Part of this price hike is probably to guage what the consumer would do and adjust it's focus again. [/quote]
I think the latter is more what's going on here. They want to see how many people change to disc only vs. how many change to streaming only.
If more do the latter, then that's a sign to them to start phasing more away from disc rentals and more to streaming. And vice versa.
Lazy people, holy shit.[/QUOTE]
It's not so much laziness as it just adds yet another errand to my hectic schedule. I seldom work less than 60 hours a week (and often 70-80) so adding little annoyances like having to be sure to get a movie back a Redbox that's out of my way by a mile or two is just another headache. Granted the work time is inflated from wasting too much time goofing online while working by posting on forums etc!
Besides that, I watch more than just new Hollywood releases so using Redbox exclusively isn't an option for me anyway.
[quote name='DestroVega']^They won't become a streaming only company, they want to refocus on DISC service, which is what they were in the first place.
Part of this price hike is probably to guage what the consumer would do and adjust it's focus again. [/quote]
I think the latter is more what's going on here. They want to see how many people change to disc only vs. how many change to streaming only.
If more do the latter, then that's a sign to them to start phasing more away from disc rentals and more to streaming. And vice versa.
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Did anyone think the users of CHEAP ASS GAMER wouldn't cancel with a $5-$8 increase? lol
[quote name='Soodmeg']I think all this does is finally separate the people who like to watch movies in general (all movies, foreign, non-main stream, indie, etc etc) from the people only want new releases. Netflix WAS NEVER for the person who wanted just new releases all the time.
Why do you think they spend most of their money on crazy ass non main stream tv shows and movies....they understood spending 20 million to bring Green Lantern to streaming 2 seconds after it left theaters was not their niche.
The amount of shows/films that wouldnt have ever even attempted to watch without netflix is staggering.[/QUOTE]
Eh, I've been a Netflix subscriber all these years precisely because they used to offer a lot of foreign movies, tv shows, and other non-mainstream titles in their library. They don't anymore. They've given up on Korean dramas and Hong Kong releases for one. Everything has unknown status, and the one's that exist have missing volumes that will never come back. Anime streams are English dubs only.
I don't know what their business focus is anymore, and I'm not going to stick around until they settle down again. Throwing them a monthly fee in hopes they get the title you want eventually is proving more pointless every day. I'd rather just go buy it outright and save $.
Bidding them adieu would be the smart thing for me at this point.
Why do you think they spend most of their money on crazy ass non main stream tv shows and movies....they understood spending 20 million to bring Green Lantern to streaming 2 seconds after it left theaters was not their niche.
The amount of shows/films that wouldnt have ever even attempted to watch without netflix is staggering.[/QUOTE]
Eh, I've been a Netflix subscriber all these years precisely because they used to offer a lot of foreign movies, tv shows, and other non-mainstream titles in their library. They don't anymore. They've given up on Korean dramas and Hong Kong releases for one. Everything has unknown status, and the one's that exist have missing volumes that will never come back. Anime streams are English dubs only.
I don't know what their business focus is anymore, and I'm not going to stick around until they settle down again. Throwing them a monthly fee in hopes they get the title you want eventually is proving more pointless every day. I'd rather just go buy it outright and save $.
Bidding them adieu would be the smart thing for me at this point.
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There are a couple things that are getting left out and its kinda of annoying to see people fly of the handle without mentioning these things.
Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.
Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one? For one its 6 miles round trip, then he has to go return it which brings it to 12 miles. Would you really drive 12ing miles to rent a movie? Depending where you live and what you drive that could be anywhere between 3-5 bucks extra. Plus the headache of having to actually drive to a redbox.
It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.
Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.
Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one? For one its 6 miles round trip, then he has to go return it which brings it to 12 miles. Would you really drive 12
ing miles to rent a movie? Depending where you live and what you drive that could be anywhere between 3-5 bucks extra. Plus the headache of having to actually drive to a redbox.It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.
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[quote name='Hibiwa']Eh, I've been a Netflix subscriber all these years precisely because they used to offer a lot of foreign movies, tv shows, and other non-mainstream titles in their library. They don't anymore. They've given up on Korean dramas and Hong Kong releases for one. Everything has unknown status, and the one's that exist have missing volumes that will never come back. Anime streams are English dubs only.
I don't know what their business focus is anymore, and I'm not going to stick around until they settle down again. Throwing them a monthly fee in hopes they get the title you want eventually is proving more pointless every day. I'd rather just go buy it outright and save $.
Bidding them adieu would be the smart thing for me at this point.[/QUOTE]
You are well within your right to do or think whatever I just dont understand then. It feels like people want everything from A-Z but they damn sure dont want to spend any more money for it. If Netflix buys more content dont they need to get more income?
I don't know what their business focus is anymore, and I'm not going to stick around until they settle down again. Throwing them a monthly fee in hopes they get the title you want eventually is proving more pointless every day. I'd rather just go buy it outright and save $.
Bidding them adieu would be the smart thing for me at this point.[/QUOTE]
You are well within your right to do or think whatever I just dont understand then. It feels like people want everything from A-Z but they damn sure dont want to spend any more money for it. If Netflix buys more content dont they need to get more income?
I didn't ask for streaming, but they tempted customers over the last couple of years to get them used to the idea that we could have both for the same price. Splitting rates and plans up is a gamble that most customers will still go with both and pay the higher fee.
If the quality and availability of obscure titles were maintained like they were say 4 years ago, then I'd stay. The trend is towards more popular releases, and everything else is an afterthought.
They can do whatever they want, but I am not willing to shell out more money for a decreasing selection of dvds so they can stream stuff I don't care about.
If the quality and availability of obscure titles were maintained like they were say 4 years ago, then I'd stay. The trend is towards more popular releases, and everything else is an afterthought.
They can do whatever they want, but I am not willing to shell out more money for a decreasing selection of dvds so they can stream stuff I don't care about.
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Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.[/quote]
Of course that's a good deal for people who don't stream. But they could have offered the disc only plan, while still giving some discount for bundling discs and streaming service.
Instead they just double the $7.99 fee and the cheapest option is now $15.98, which is a big jump at once from the $9.99 it was before.
There'd be a lot less up roar if they'd made it a bundle deal and given people a break and made the combo price say $12.99 or something.
It's a big price drop when they haven't announced any improvements to the service.
To clarify, my work commute is 3 miles each way, with no Redboxes along it. The closest read box is about a 1.5 miles per way. Though it's city miles so with traffic lights etc. it takes about 10 minutes each way both times. So it's more the time than distance/gas mileage for me.
[quote name='Soodmeg']You are well within your right to do or think whatever I just dont understand then. It feels like people want everything from A-Z but they damn sure dont want to spend any more money for it. If Netflix buys more content dont they need to get more income?[/QUOTE]
The problem is they haven't announced that they're adding content or improving the service with these fees.
If they announced that they were adding a bunch of new titles to streaming, starting to have major new releases to stream etc. that would be a different story and I'd be more ok with the price increase.
But for my package to jump from $11.99 to $17.98 with no announced improvements is just too much for me to keep on that plan. It was barely worth the $11.99 to me, and definitely not worth $17.98 for the amount of titles I watch a month. So I'll drop down to the 1 disc only with blu ray somewhat begrudgingly as I did like having streaming available for occasional use.
Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.[/quote]
Of course that's a good deal for people who don't stream. But they could have offered the disc only plan, while still giving some discount for bundling discs and streaming service.
Instead they just double the $7.99 fee and the cheapest option is now $15.98, which is a big jump at once from the $9.99 it was before.
There'd be a lot less up roar if they'd made it a bundle deal and given people a break and made the combo price say $12.99 or something.
It's a big price drop when they haven't announced any improvements to the service.
To clarify, my work commute is 3 miles each way, with no Redboxes along it. The closest read box is about a 1.5 miles per way. Though it's city miles so with traffic lights etc. it takes about 10 minutes each way both times. So it's more the time than distance/gas mileage for me.
[quote name='Soodmeg']You are well within your right to do or think whatever I just dont understand then. It feels like people want everything from A-Z but they damn sure dont want to spend any more money for it. If Netflix buys more content dont they need to get more income?[/QUOTE]
The problem is they haven't announced that they're adding content or improving the service with these fees.
If they announced that they were adding a bunch of new titles to streaming, starting to have major new releases to stream etc. that would be a different story and I'd be more ok with the price increase.
But for my package to jump from $11.99 to $17.98 with no announced improvements is just too much for me to keep on that plan. It was barely worth the $11.99 to me, and definitely not worth $17.98 for the amount of titles I watch a month. So I'll drop down to the 1 disc only with blu ray somewhat begrudgingly as I did like having streaming available for occasional use.
[quote name='Soodmeg']There are a couple things that are getting left out and its kinda of annoying to see people fly of the handle without mentioning these things.
Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.
Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one? For one its 6 miles round trip, then he has to go return it which brings it to 12 miles. Would you really drive 12ing miles to rent a movie? Depending where you live and what you drive that could be anywhere between 3-5 bucks extra. Plus the headache of having to actually drive to a redbox.
It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.[/QUOTE]
So going by your way of thinking then it's ok to screw the people who do have high speed internet and an HD tv just because some people don't? It's your way of thinking I don't get. IF Netflix came out with the new plans in addition to the existing ones, that would make some sense. They way they are doing it is assinine.
Screwing your existing customer who've had a Combined service is Not a good business model. If most current customers either cancel outright or go with one single $7.99 deal Netflix is going to lose customers and income. To me that makes absolutely no sense.
As far as redbox goes, luckily I have one Everywhere I go. There's one in my local wal-mart, one outside my Turkey Hill, one at Wegman's, and one at Redners Groceries. Everywhere I go I have easy access to one, these are places I'm at multiple times per week, and I usually walk right by without renting because I have Netflix. Now the Redboxes will be my DVD source, if I need to rent something.
Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.
Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one? For one its 6 miles round trip, then he has to go return it which brings it to 12 miles. Would you really drive 12
ing miles to rent a movie? Depending where you live and what you drive that could be anywhere between 3-5 bucks extra. Plus the headache of having to actually drive to a redbox.It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.[/QUOTE]
So going by your way of thinking then it's ok to screw the people who do have high speed internet and an HD tv just because some people don't? It's your way of thinking I don't get. IF Netflix came out with the new plans in addition to the existing ones, that would make some sense. They way they are doing it is assinine.
Screwing your existing customer who've had a Combined service is Not a good business model. If most current customers either cancel outright or go with one single $7.99 deal Netflix is going to lose customers and income. To me that makes absolutely no sense.
As far as redbox goes, luckily I have one Everywhere I go. There's one in my local wal-mart, one outside my Turkey Hill, one at Wegman's, and one at Redners Groceries. Everywhere I go I have easy access to one, these are places I'm at multiple times per week, and I usually walk right by without renting because I have Netflix. Now the Redboxes will be my DVD source, if I need to rent something.
usickenme
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The whole thing is overblown. Netflix has been a great deal for a long time and I'm surprised it has taken this long to increase rates. It's a total first world problem (http://whitewhine.com/). The sense of entitlement over this has astounded me
I've already been using redbox quite a bit so going down to steaming only + redbox means it will cost me less.
I've already been using redbox quite a bit so going down to steaming only + redbox means it will cost me less.
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I barely use DVD so I'll just go with streaming... it's a good service and it's still $50+ cheaper than cable with no commercials.
[quote name='praxus07']
Screwing your existing customer who've had a Combined service is Not a good business model. If most current customers either cancel outright or go with one single $7.99 deal Netflix is going to lose customers and income. To me that makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE]
That's the real problem with this. There's no benefits being offered to customers who currently have and use both streaming and netflix.
They're just getting a $6 or so price increase, with no talk of service improvements etc.
On top of that, service quality just went down with Sony pulling their titles.
They really needed to do something for current members like keep their plan cheaper than the new options that new customers get etc. Throw your loyal customers a bone here. It's understandable that prices have to go up due to the studios wanting more money for streaming rights etc., but due something to give your current customers incentive to stick by you.
Screwing your existing customer who've had a Combined service is Not a good business model. If most current customers either cancel outright or go with one single $7.99 deal Netflix is going to lose customers and income. To me that makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE]
That's the real problem with this. There's no benefits being offered to customers who currently have and use both streaming and netflix.
They're just getting a $6 or so price increase, with no talk of service improvements etc.
On top of that, service quality just went down with Sony pulling their titles.
They really needed to do something for current members like keep their plan cheaper than the new options that new customers get etc. Throw your loyal customers a bone here. It's understandable that prices have to go up due to the studios wanting more money for streaming rights etc., but due something to give your current customers incentive to stick by you.
Soodmeg
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[quote name='usickenme']The whole thing is overblown. Netflix has been a great deal for a long time and I'm surprised it has taken this long to increase rates. It's a total first world problem (http://whitewhine.com/). The sense of entitlement over this has astounded me
I've already been using redbox quite a bit so going down to steaming only + redbox means it will cost me less.[/QUOTE]
I am telling you..these motherers want literately the god damn world for nothing. They even gave us a option of opting out of one or the other to keep our personally price down. Still not enough. Access to a billion dvds and hundreds of thousands of streaming movies for less than it cost to go to a theater. Thats a horrid deal.
It doesnt matter that about a year ago they drop a BILLION in a 5 year contract (thats not a joke they serious spent a billion) on their streaming content.
I've already been using redbox quite a bit so going down to steaming only + redbox means it will cost me less.[/QUOTE]
I am telling you..these mother
ers want literately the god damn world for nothing. They even gave us a option of opting out of one or the other to keep our personally price down. Still not enough. Access to a billion dvds and hundreds of thousands of streaming movies for less than it cost to go to a theater. Thats a horrid deal.It doesnt matter that about a year ago they drop a BILLION in a 5 year contract (thats not a joke they serious spent a billion) on their streaming content.
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Again, it's more just a matter that they've upped the price for people to keep both discs and streaming and said nothing about improving the service. Not just that there's a price increase.
And it's made worse by the fact that they're doing nothing to reward loyal customers like giving them a break on the price increase compared to new customers signing up today. Usually when something like this happens, current customers get either grandfathered into deals, or at least get some bones thrown their way rather than getting the same deal someone signing up for the first time today gets.
I understand the need for prices to increase overtime and to improve the service, but $6 overnight is a bit much when it's not accompanied by an instant improvement in selection of streaming content or any other improvements.
For me, as long as they keep offering a cheap disc only plan, I'm relatively happy. I can live without streaming as I really only like to watch at most 2 or 3 movies a week since my hobby time gets split across movies, sports, gaming, reading, tv etc., so I can't get enough movies via disc to keep me happy.
But they need to start getting more Blu-rays of catalog titles as they come out or I'll have to look into the selection of Blockbuster's online rental system as I'm getting a bit tired of paying extra for Blu-rays and having them unavailable for many older movies and having the 28 day wait for new releases (that I believe BB doesn't have).
And it's made worse by the fact that they're doing nothing to reward loyal customers like giving them a break on the price increase compared to new customers signing up today. Usually when something like this happens, current customers get either grandfathered into deals, or at least get some bones thrown their way rather than getting the same deal someone signing up for the first time today gets.
I understand the need for prices to increase overtime and to improve the service, but $6 overnight is a bit much when it's not accompanied by an instant improvement in selection of streaming content or any other improvements.
For me, as long as they keep offering a cheap disc only plan, I'm relatively happy. I can live without streaming as I really only like to watch at most 2 or 3 movies a week since my hobby time gets split across movies, sports, gaming, reading, tv etc., so I can't get enough movies via disc to keep me happy.
But they need to start getting more Blu-rays of catalog titles as they come out or I'll have to look into the selection of Blockbuster's online rental system as I'm getting a bit tired of paying extra for Blu-rays and having them unavailable for many older movies and having the 28 day wait for new releases (that I believe BB doesn't have).
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