New CAG Affiliate: VideoGameCentral.com - 10% off for CAGs

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I recently spoke to the management of VideoGameCentral.com, an online retailer located out of NYC. They very much wanted to be a part of the CAG affiliate family and I thought you guys might find their large selection of gaming goods interesting. In addition to new releases, they carry classic games, imports, and other specialty products

They've offered up a 10% off coupon: cheapvgcgamer, which is good for any purchase.

VideoGameCentral.com

I haven't had a chance to go through the site on a deal search, but Bargain Bin Games - Cheap Games might be a good place to start.
 
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[quote name='UncleBob']Also, don't have individuals come here from your website making posts that imply they're not from the website, just big fans of it and telling us it's so great. We ain't stoopids.

As others have said, get rid of the 'illegal' crap, lower the shipping prices and get competitive on your regular pricing. and keepup with some of those deals of the day. I haven't seen anything on there that grabs my eye personally, but there seems to be some pretty decent deals[/quote]

Point taken. As for the OldSkoolFool, he actually has been a great customer of VideoGameCentral for years and has been doing some web-based work for us this past year. His good-hearted attempt to quell the lynching of the company he happens to be a huge fan of is applaudable in a 'humorous' kinda way. He actually was the one who brought it to my attention.

But I do appreciate all the honesty. It is very refreshing to see what the experienced discount hunting CAG fan thinks. You guys have brought to the surface a lot of shortcomings that a growing company like VGC appreciates to evolve into the next level gamer fan site that we are striving for. So Thank You...
 
[quote name='evilmax17']I think it's not so much of people having a problem with your modding items, and more of people having a problem with CAG's policy regarding them.[/quote]Some of us have a problem with the modding items, yes.
 
[quote name='botticus']And to be fair, there are some deals in there. d00k just posted the Manhunt 2 preorder in the Wii thread, and with coupon and value shipping, it comes out to $47.[/QUOTE]

I don't see how a $3 savings is a deal - especially since the price is $47 before shipping and coupon. I'd rather pay the extra $3 and get the game from a trusted site. I'm pretty sure that later this month one of the big retailers will give us a preorder discount.
 
[quote name='TheOracle']. His good-hearted attempt to quell the lynching of the company he happens to be a huge fan of is applaudable in a 'humorous' kinda way.[/QUOTE]

I don't think calling someone's phone from a restricted number to bitch them out over bashing a website is humorous nor applaudable.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']I don't see how a $3 savings is a deal - especially since the price is $47 before shipping and coupon. I'd rather pay the extra $3 and get the game from a trusted site. I'm pretty sure that later this month one of the big retailers will give us a preorder discount.[/quote]
Again, all do respect, but 10% off $47 is $4.70, not $3 as you incorrectly stated. And that's an example of only a new game. If you we're to buy a PlaySeat Racing Game Chair for 299.99 you would get $30 off.

Again, it was is an introductory partner discount and we are working right now on individual deals as so we get the CAG street cred.

[quote name='Roufuss']I don't think calling someone's phone from a restricted number to bitch them out over bashing a website is humorous nor applaudable.[/quote]
Don't know anything about this. Care to ellaborate??
 
[quote name='Scrubking']I don't see how a $3 savings is a deal - especially since the price is $47 before shipping and coupon. I'd rather pay the extra $3 and get the game from a trusted site. I'm pretty sure that later this month one of the big retailers will give us a preorder discount.[/quote]Now you're just being argumentative. $3 savings is a deal the same way people using Best Buy's 10% off coupon on $20 games is a deal.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I understand this, but Daroga is making it sound as if the modding tools are illegal, or a website is suddenly not legitimate because they offer the tools to play the imports that they themselves sell.

Play-Asia offers Freeloaders, does this suddenly make them a bad website?

I think if they lowered the prices on the swap magic and the other import tools, they might get a few sales from CAG's who want to experience all the Play-Asia deals but have no way of playing those games.[/quote]Freeloaders, from what I recall, don't allow burned software to run. That may or may not be the case with the disc swaps for the PS2, I don't know. Note up on that.

The GBA Flash Carts they have on their are less of a gray area (but certainly is still gray as you have the homebrew scene which can be a lot of fun to be involved in).

As botticus said, my issue is not really with the tools themselves. I know first hand that such things can be used for good or for bad--the blame of that shouldn't be on the store selling them but on the consumer putting them to use. The issue here is that CAG has been a pretty strict against any tool that could be used for piracy.

If CAG is going to have a business relationship with VGC, VGC needs to ditch those things that we're not allowed to swap (pun intended) in our trading forum, OR we need a revision of the rules around here. Otherwise, it gives the impression that Cheapy is willing to bend his own mores to make a quick buck. Nevermind the confusion it would give to members whose trade lists and deal posts get shot down for the same things that an officila affiliate of the community is selling.
 
[quote name='daroga']If CAG is going to have a business relationship with VGC, VGC needs to ditch those things that we're not allowed to swap (pun intended) in our trading forum, OR we need a revision of the rules around here. Otherwise, it gives the impression that Cheapy is willing to bend his own mores to make a quick buck. Nevermind the confusion it would give to members whose trade lists and deal posts get shot down for the same things that an officila affiliate of the community is selling.[/quote]As well as make a bit of an issue for those of us that clean up CAG for those types of items.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']As well as make a bit of an issue for those of us that clean up CAG for those types of items.[/quote]Very true. And then that just leads to whiny users squaking about wanting to know why threads were deleted. Lose, lose all around. ;)
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']You can't really say ALL of your prices are competive. Last time I checked, you're still selling Geist for Gamecube for almost 50 bucks.[/quote]

I still atest to that. The only reason Geist for GameCube is still the old price is because we never re-ordered it at the lower price because it is a non-issue. It falls between the cracks because customer's and VGC aren't looking at it.

But as a private store with a web presence I appreciate any info or criticism that can help us improve. And for the record, if you were a customer looking for Geist and called us with this issue we would adjust it to the market value for purchase.

Thanks
 
[quote name='TheOracle']I still atest to that. The only reason Geist for GameCube is still the old price is because we never re-ordered it at the lower price because it is a non-issue. It falls between the cracks because customer's and VGC aren't looking at it.

But as a private store with a web presence I appreciate any info or criticism that can help us improve. And for the record, if you were a customer looking for Geist and called us with this issue we would adjust it to the market value for purchase.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
No, I can certaintly understand that. Big business take huge loses on (new) games all the time-- people don't buy every title that comes out and for a smaller business to take a loss on that can be difficult.
It is interesting that you agree to match market value. It seems as though you truly are trying to grow as a business. Best of luck to you.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105042&page=2

Read the whole thing.[/quote]
I read the post but only found a reference to a phone number. I didn't really get what you mentioned about a call from the restricted number.


But I do have an opinion on the matter. I don't agree in anyway that a person should be verbally bothered on his phone, but, If you are on a forum and are in anyway having debates or confrontations with other members and you list your phone number. There's a pretty good chance you will be getting harassed by the members you are arguing with.

I can't respond more then that because I don't know the details but I also can't speak for another person. That would be the same as if a person insulted the creator of the famous Metal Gear Solid series Hideo Kojima, and an avid fan harassed the insultor. VideoGameCentral does have people who are loyal fans (it's not just a price thing) and like all sites with fans, it has people who vehemently appreciate us.

[quote name='botticus']Well, hey, new game prices are pretty good.

They just need to try not to charge $7 for media mail.[/quote]
Economy shipping shipping $ Adjusted already. Altough we haven't sent Media Mail for over a year. We use 1st Class Mail with tracking. It's not worth the problems and delays that Media Mail posed.

Thanks for the comment.

[quote name='Roufuss']Hey is this a good deal:

http://store.videogamecentral.com/supernintendomodel3.html

It plays both NES + SNES games!![/quote]
Yes, Roufuss,

It is a good deal. System works better then the old blinking NES too
 
[quote name='TheOracle']Yes, Roufuss,

It is a good deal. System works better then the old blinking NES too[/QUOTE]

Might pick one of those up. I feel sorry for the owner of VGC. Lay off people, damn.
 
Glad to see Cheapy working on more affiliations. Not too good of a start, though, it seems.

Thanks, but no thanks. ;)
 
[quote name='TheOracle']I read the post but only found a reference to a phone number. I didn't really get what you mentioned about a call from the restricted number.
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He was referencing that member who called him as restricted. He was saying most people didn't know that when you call restricted it still shows up on the phone bill.
 
[quote name='daroga']Freeloaders, from what I recall, don't allow burned software to run. That may or may not be the case with the disc swaps for the PS2, I don't know. Note up on that.

The GBA Flash Carts they have on their are less of a gray area (but certainly is still gray as you have the homebrew scene which can be a lot of fun to be involved in).

As botticus said, my issue is not really with the tools themselves. I know first hand that such things can be used for good or for bad--the blame of that shouldn't be on the store selling them but on the consumer putting them to use. The issue here is that CAG has been a pretty strict against any tool that could be used for piracy.

If CAG is going to have a business relationship with VGC, VGC needs to ditch those things that we're not allowed to swap (pun intended) in our trading forum, OR we need a revision of the rules around here. Otherwise, it gives the impression that Cheapy is willing to bend his own mores to make a quick buck. Nevermind the confusion it would give to members whose trade lists and deal posts get shot down for the same things that an officila affiliate of the community is selling.[/quote]

Great post on so many levels.
 
I've always understood it that talking about modifications was only acceptable if it was being used for anything but bootlegging games.

About them being sold in the trading forums, that's a definite no. So it's a bit confusing.
 
[quote name='yukine']I've always understood it that talking about modifications was only acceptable if it was being used for anything but bootlegging games.

About them being sold in the trading forums, that's a definite no. So it's a bit confusing.[/quote]

Well, the thread concerning compatibility of PS1 games on PSP 3.40 OE-A firmware was deleted.

Look, either this shit is allowed or it isn't.

If a affiliate can sell shit that allows "back-ups" to be played, then we can trade them. We can talk about them.

Where is Cheapy in all of this? He hasn't poked his head in this thread since starting this.
 
[quote name='yoursisterspretty']Well, the thread concerning compatibility of PS1 games on PSP 3.40 OE-A firmware was deleted.

Look, either this shit is allowed or it isn't.

If a affiliate can sell shit that allows "back-ups" to be played, then we can trade them. We can talk about them.

Where is Cheapy in all of this? He hasn't poked his head in this thread since starting this.[/quote]
While threads regarding the R4 still exist, it's just a bit unclear what's permissible and what isn't.
 
[quote name='TheOracle']:cry:
- I have been testing our shipping tables myself today and see why it is the popular offender. We are currently re-working them to address the most VALID issue that has arose by this thread.[/quote]

ok maybe i should give my two cents.

ive been watching your store for awhile now. but only recently purchased from your store which I used the 10%. while the price for that particular item was EXCELLENT in my opinion, but the shipping totally killed this deal (i didnt mind the tax, since i live in ny).

im sorry if this was already mentioned. but it seems as if your store is one of those ebay stores that clearly takes advantage of people with shipping prices. independent online game store seems as if they could never compete with shipping prices. media mail seems like a good idea, i know some retailers online does this. although it takes forever for them to get to their destination. first class mail could be your safest bet. but again, try not to charge $6.xx for 1 item. how do you guys send your games anyways? in a box or padded mailers?
 
[quote name='yukine']While threads regarding the R4 still exist, it's just a bit unclear what's permissible and what isn't.[/quote]

Didn't know that, but I never head over to the DS boards.

Man I don't know why this all pisses me off so much, but it does.
 
Everyone needs to chill. If they sell them, thats great. It´s what gives them money and allows them to make deals within the TOS. If they have an extra 1200 in the books, fuckin straight they´ll drop the price of college hoops.
 
No offense to the store owner, but CAG isn't his targeted audience. This site is called "CheapAssGamer," which yes, implies that we like to do things as cheap as possible. If, as a community, we were interested in piracy, we wouldn't post deals on how to purchase stuff at the lowest prices. Piracy is seen as a big no-no here and most of this community's members won't patronize an establishment that encourages it by way of sales or otherwise without good reason.

I'm having a hard time seeing the "good reason" with VGC. Because it's an independent store, the prices on new games aren't going to be able to compete with the bigger guys. But that's still no excuse for hideously overpricing games for the classic consoles. Everyone has to make a profit, but high prices and CAG don't exactly fit together. Even after the 10%, those prices are much higher than what we get other places without discounts on a daily basis.

I can see how VGC would be a great resource for people interested in purchasing niché titles they can't find anywhere locally when money is no object, or people who want to mod their systems, but those people aren't at CAG.
 
[quote name='phear3d']ok maybe i should give my two cents.

im sorry if this was already mentioned. but it seems as if your store is one of those ebay stores that clearly takes advantage of people with shipping prices. independent online game store seems as if they could never compete with shipping prices. media mail seems like a good idea, i know some retailers online does this. although it takes forever for them to get to their destination. first class mail could be your safest bet. but again, try not to charge $6.xx for 1 item. how do you guys send your games anyways? in a box or padded mailers?[/quote]
In answer to your statement, we are a constant work in progress like any business. We charge $4.95 for a game to ship Value Ship. This is ONLY first class, NOT MEDIA as you know it makes for long delays. And $4.95 is a fair price for an item to be shipped pulled with some form of packing and 'paying' the shipper who's job it is to send. You have to rememeber, stores aren't working out of thei basement. They have real Americans working in them that are doing the job. When you order something it gos through a process of quite a few hands before reaching your doorstep.

note: Our shipping might of been reworked after your initial order. If you give me your order # I can look into it.

[quote name='Gamerguy']No offense to the store owner, but CAG isn't his targeted audience. This site is called "CheapAssGamer," which yes, implies that we like to do things as cheap as possible.

I'm having a hard time seeing the "good reason" with VGC. Because it's an independent store, the prices on new games aren't going to be able to compete with the bigger guys.

I can see how VGC would be a great resource for people interested in purchasing niché titles they can't find anywhere locally when money is no object, or people who want to mod their systems, but those people aren't at CAG.[/quote]
I respect your opinion but I have seen Best Buy deals on CAG for one or two items that are respected without a CAG fan disecting BestBuy's site on the other 98% that they sell at full retail. The same for the other well known sites. Most Big Retailers only sell a small percentage of their products at the same or below cost prices to lure you in. The rest of their inventory is at full retail. Yet you aren't dissecting BEST BUY for $90 Monster Cables.

All I ask is keep an opn mind with VideoGameCentral.com. We respect the CAG fans and their fine detail to the discount. We will have a new list of extremely LOW PRICE games up within this week and you will still be able to use th 10% discount.

While we have grown into a strong private company over these past few years thru the 'niche' collctible market, we want to honor all consumers demands and CAG's attention to price detail is helping us evolve as a company.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105042&page=2

Read the whole thing.[/quote]

If this thread is 100% true, then we shouldn't be doing business with this site.

Oracle, you've said that Old_Skool_Fool works for you so basically you do have to speak for him and explain his actions. If you have employees (that pose as CAGs) harassing other CAGs, this is a serious problem. I won't stand for it and I hope the rest of us won't stand for it. I'm not going to get all whiny but I will NEVER buy anything from your site and I will actively discourage any other CAG from patronizing you. Not only have you sold bootlegs but I don't like your "advertising" campaign. In short, your practices suck.
 
[quote name='depascal22']I guess we don't deserve an explanation.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, it's been less than two days. Since he basically brushed off the incident earlier, I'm not sure if we will get any kind of apology or explanation, but I sure hope we do. That incident alone is enough to discourage me from ever buying from them, regardless of any sales or discounts he offers us, and I know that I wouldn't be alone there.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Personally, I'd love for a mod to check the IP of Old_Skool_Fool and The_Oracle and see if they match up...[/QUOTE]

I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet. These sorts of situations tend to turn out so frequently alike, I'd be more surprised to find out they had unique IP addresses.
 
2 days seems to be plenty of time to respond to an incident like this. If it were my business, I'd damn sure do some damage control unless there's no way to fix what happened.
 
[quote name='depascal22']If this thread is 100% true, then we shouldn't be doing business with this site.

Oracle, you've said that Old_Skool_Fool works for you so basically you do have to speak for him and explain his actions. If you have employees (that pose as CAGs) harassing other CAGs, this is a serious problem.[/quote]
Hey, I Apologize for the late reply, I haven't got back to the boards since my last post.

The action you we're speaking of are from a while ago with OldSkoolFool. He wasn't doing anything for us at that time, he has just always been a VideoGameCentral extremist, so to speak. There are actually a few more (like him) that frequent our site that I would put in his boat but I don't think they have made their way to CAG yet.

And as far as I'm concerned, :cry: it is a losing battle to talk for another person that had an opinion on a post a year or so ago. As for bootlegs, we have never been a player in the 'bootleg' world due to my own beliefs on artistic license rights in music, art and gaming. We, however as most private companies had to do over the years, is make choices on gray area items that were the ONLY sellable thing at that time. I am curious to know why a comment is being brought up of an issue that is 'moot' since none of the items spoke of are of any consequence now.

To me that post sounds like you're trying to discredit a presidential candidate more then say "Hey, This site might have a good deal here and there."

Isn't that what Cheapy started CAG for?

Hey everyone didn't start as a Monoprice.com, but if you read earlier posts, you would see VideoGameCentral.com is respectfully and professionally trying to acknowledge the CAG fan.

Here's this weeks game's on sale for PS2. Let me know what you guys think
http://store.videogamecentral.com/gamesales.html

[quote name='UncleBob']Personally, I'd love for a mod to check the IP of Old_Skool_Fool and The_Oracle and see if they match up...[/quote]
Hey Uncle Bob,
I can assure you. We're not the same person.

As others said on this thread already, they want to (and hopefully you do also) look with an open, and objective mind, let the old negative experience you had go, and let CAG fans decide on the values we provide.

[quote name='depascal22']
Not only have you sold bootlegs but I don't like your "advertising" campaign. [/quote]
I'm not clear on this. What advertising campaign are you speaking of?
 
[quote name='mephitical']Most games on the list are $9.99 pre-shipping, and they are games that sell new for less than that in most cases, but definitely less used. Fur Fighters was the cheapest PS2 game on half.com over three years ago at a consistent selling price of $1.00.
It's nice to have the business owner in a discourse, but the replies are obtuse and only seem to feign interest in the mission of CAG.[/quote]

Pulling apart Fur Fighters out of over 50 titles is unfair...

Isn't PS2 Final Fantasy X2 a good price at $15 with the 10% CheapVGCGamer coupon used also.

Also PS2 Tetris Worlds for $9.99 is a good price with the 10% available too.

I understand you can find select items to compare against, but for each point you make, there are games that are good deals too.

I know this because I see the coupon being used regularly (it was only introduced on CAG). That would indicate CAG'ers are making their own fair decision on what seems to be a good deal.

As for the obtuse statement, I have been completely clear on stating that I am not speaking for another person about old topics and I have been been acute in my reply that we do not deal in bootlegs.

If you think those deals aren't good enough, then I respect your opinion.
 
[quote name='TheOracle']
If you think those deals aren't good enough, then I respect your opinion.[/quote]

Credit where credit is due, at least you are repsonding. Cheapy hasn't said anything.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Credit where credit is due, at least you are repsonding. Cheapy hasn't said anything.[/quote]

Thank you.
 
I dont know why, but this site reminds me of a store that used to be in NYC, I forget the name, but it was on St. Marks place, next to a barber. I wonder if the owner(s) are the same?
 
[quote name='jza1218']I dont know why, but this site reminds me of a store that used to be in NYC, I forget the name, but it was on St. Marks place, next to a barber. I wonder if the owner(s) are the same?[/quote] Nope, this guy was the owner of that store. He had dealings with CAG as well.
 
[quote name='TheOracle']As for bootlegs, we have never been a player in the 'bootleg' world due to my own beliefs on artistic license rights in music, art and gaming[/quote]

Your "beliefs"!? ROFL

Sorry cheapy, I think you should ditch this guy. It's not just about the prices, it's about the character of the seller too.
 
[quote name='TheOracle']
As for bootlegs, we have never been a player in the 'bootleg' world due to my own beliefs on artistic license rights in music, art and gaming.
[/quote]

We, however as most private companies had to do over the years, is make choices on gray area items that were the ONLY sellable thing at that time.
Click to expand...

?????

You claim that you've never been a player in the bootleg world, yet two sentences below that you admit you made choices on "grey area items".

Guess what, 50 in 1 GBA carts ARE bootlegs, so yea, you have been a player in the bootleg world, whether you want to admit it yourself or not.

Every private company I've bought from has never had to make choices on "grey area" items... I don't ever remember NCSX, Play Asia, GoGamer, or any other smaller site resort to selling bootlegs.
 
Oracle, you're in a no-win situation here. The main problem is the audience, myself included. Fur Fighters might have seemed like a cheap shot, but I could print out your list of PS2 games and walk into any Best Buy or Gamestop and find similar prices. Most games on that list are $4.99 used or less at Gamestop, even less using the 25% off codes online or the B2G1Free offer in-store.
On this site, you are dealing with people for whom cheapiness is next to godliness; they know all the deals and how to accomplish cheap gaming most efficiently. That goal does not mesh well with supproting a budding business like yours.
 
CAGer Belmont: Die, retailer! You don't belong on this board!

DraVGCula: It was not by my hand that I am once again giving miniscule discounts! I was called here by affiliates who wish to pay me tribute!

CAGer: Tribute? You sell bootlegs and make profits!

DraVGCula: I suppose the same could be said of all retail-stores....

CAGer: Your deals are as empty as your soul! CheapAssGamer ill needs a game store such as yours!

DraVGCula: What is a CheapAssGamer? A miserable little pile of threads! But enough talk... Have at you!

 
For the DDR'ers out there, it is actually CHEAPER to buy the high-quality Cobalt Flux (Rolls Royce of the commercial DDR metal pads) at VGC than the actual CobaltFlux.com website.

VGC already discounted the $300 pad by %10 to make it $270, factor in shipping (~$80 versus CF.com's $50 shipping) and then using the CAG affialte coupon code brings the final total (as a Californian) to ~$325 versus CF.com's ~$350.

But in CF's defense, they offer 6-month warranty on both the pad and some control box.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']:rofl:

Holy shit.

:rofl:[/QUOTE]

and how. After reading that post, I got that muffled "mu-huh-huh" sound effect of Dracula stuck in my head for a few minutes.

Best post since The Narrator's Apprentice.
 
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