NFL Off-season/Draft thread II - Calvin Johnson #1?

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2007 NFL Draft: April 27-28
Draft order:
1 - Oakland - (1)1, (2)33, (3)65, 99, (4)100, (5)138, 165, (6)175, (7)211, 254
2 - Detroit - (1)2, (2)34, (3)66, (4)101, (5)139, 145, 154, 158, (7)255
3 - Cleveland - (1)3, (2)36, (3)67, (4)103, (5)140, (6)178, (7)213
4 - Tampa Bay - (1)4, (2)35, 64, (3)68, (4)102, (5)141, (7)214, 245, 246
5 - Arizona - (1)5, (2)38, (3)69, (4)105, (5)142, (7)215
6 - Washington - (1)6, (5)143, (6)179, 205, (7)216 - least picks in draft (5)
7 - Minnesota - (1)7, (2)41, (3)72, (4)106, (5)146, (6)182, (7)217
8 - Atlanta (from Houston) - (1)8, (2)39, 44, (3)75, (4)109, 121, 133, (5)149, (6)185, (7)244
9 - Miami - (1)9, (2)40, 60, (3)71, (4)108, (6)181, 199, (7)219, 238
10 - Houston (from Atlanta) - (1)10, (3)73, (4)107, (5)144, (6)183, (7)218
11 - San Francisco - (1)11, (2)42, (3)76, 97, (4)104, 110, 124, 135, (5)147, (6)186
12 - Buffalo - (1)12, (2)43, (3)74, 92, (4)111, (6)184, (7)222, 239
13 - St. Louis - (1)13, (2)52, (3)82, (4)117, (5)148, (6)190, (7)225, 248, 249
14 - Carolina - (1)14, (2)45, (3)83, (4)118, (5)155, (6)191, (7)226
15 - Pittsburgh - (1)15, (2)46, (3)77, (4)119, 132, (5)156, 170, (6)192, (7)227
16 - Green Bay - (1)16, (2)47, (3)78, (4)112, (5)157, (6)193, (7)228, 235, 243
17 - Jacksonville - (1)17, (2)48, (3)79, (4)113, (5)150, (6)194, (7)229, 251, 252
18 - Cincinnati - (1)18, (2)49, (4)114, (5)151, (6)187, (7)230, 253 (Mr. Irrelevant)
19 - Tennessee - (1)19, (2)50, (3)80, (4)115, 128, (5)152, (6)188, 204, 206, (7)223
20 - New York Giants - (1)20, (2)51, (3)81, (4)116, (5)153, (6)189, (7)224, 250
21 - Denver - (1)21, (2)56, (3)70, 86, (6)176, 198, (7)233
22 - Dallas - (1)22, (2)53, (3)87, (4)122, (5)159, (6)195, 200, (7)212, 234, 237
23 - Kansas City - (1)23, (2)54, (3)84, (5)160, (6)196, (7)231
24 - New England (from Seattle) (1)24, 28, (3)91, (4)127, (5)171, (6)180, 202, 208, 209, (7)247
25 - New York Jets - (1)25, (2)59, 63, (3)89, (5)164, (6)177
26 - Philadelphia - (1)26, (2)57, (3)90, (5)162, (6)201, (7)236
27 - New Orleans - (1)27, (2)58, (3)88, (4)123, 125, 126, (5)163, (7)220
28 - New England (see above - only team with 2 picks in Round 1; most picks overall - 11)
29 - Baltimore - (1)29, (2)61, (4)134, 137, (5)166, 174, (6)203, 207
30 - San Diego - (1)30, (2)62, (3)93, 96, (4)129, (5)167, 172, (7)240
31 - Chicago - (1)31, (2)37, (3)94, (4)130, (5)168, (7)221, 241
32 - Indianapolis - (1)32, (3)95, 98, (4)131, 136, (5)169, 173, (7)242

Seattle - (2)55, (3)85, (4)120, (5)161, (6)197, 210, (7)232 - only team with no picks in Round 1


News:
  • Adam Jones story: link
    - Jones: suspended for full season
    - Henry: first 8 team games
    Both must apply for readmission to league. Titans website leaves hints Jones may not be welcomed back at all.
  • Harrington to Falcons for two years
  • Schedule to be released April 11, 1PM
 
Good. I find it hard to believe that people consider professional sports players "role models", but since they do, they need to control themselves both on and off the field. Not to mention they get paid way too much to play a game once a week for less than half a year.
 
[quote name='Eviltude']Good. I find it hard to believe that people consider professional sports players "role models", but since they do, they need to control themselves both on and off the field. Not to mention they get paid way too much to play a game once a week for less than half a year.[/QUOTE]

Maybe football starts on sunday and ends on monday night for you but football players are training for that next game the entire week. Its a full time job, they dont go to disney world on the weekdays and say "see ya next week guys". The same thing goes for the offseason for the most part. Even if you played a sport in high school you will know that things dont just stop because the season is over. Its year round conditioning if you expect to compete at top level the next year.

It also looks like they get paid a ton but those numbers can be a bit confusing. Many people get cut from a team days before they are due a big roster bonus. Dont think only bad things happen to those who are on the cover of Madden as well. By college most football players have already suffered some sort of injury, just look at the profiles to the players that are in this years draft. Its not hard to get injured in the NFL and once you are, you potentially lose your job. Biggest example is Drew Bledsoe, he got injured and lost his job to brady, lost his job again with the bills and then got injured and lost his job to Romo in Dallas.

Let me try to explain the pay best i can with an example:
Jamal Lewis signed to 3 years, $26 million contract with the ravens in march 2006.
He played the 2006 season, made $5 million signing bonus and $6 million salary for the season.
He was cut on the Wed before the Sat in which he was due $5 million salary bonus, and he wont be playing for the ravens obviously so no $5 mil 2007 season salary.
Ditto for 2008 roster bonus and season pay.

So what was once 3 years $26 million turns out to be like $11 million and a wave goodbye. This doesnt just apply to Jamal Lewis, MANY players are cut just days before they are due a roster bonus, but people dont think about that when they see the 3 year $26 million figure.

As for Pacman, he got what he had coming to him. I watched him play plenty of times the 2006 season and thought he was so awesome but you seriously dont need to be getting into trouble like that. Hopefully NFL players will take that example and learn they need to start acting right off the field as well.

Dont forget Henry got suspended for half a season.
 
I like the Fark.com headline for this:

"NFL suspends Pacman Jones for the entire season. Donkey Kong Smith nervously awaits his fate"
 
[quote name='blackjaw']I like the Fark.com headline for this:

"NFL suspends Pacman Jones for the entire season. Donkey Kong Smith nervously awaits his fate"[/quote]

:rofl:
 
[quote name='Weedy649']Maybe football starts on sunday and ends on monday night for you but football players are training for that next game the entire week. Its a full time job, they dont go to disney world on the weekdays and say "see ya next week guys". The same thing goes for the offseason for the most part. Even if you played a sport in high school you will know that things dont just stop because the season is over. Its year round conditioning if you expect to compete at top level the next year.

It also looks like they get paid a ton but those numbers can be a bit confusing. Many people get cut from a team days before they are due a big roster bonus. Dont think only bad things happen to those who are on the cover of Madden as well. By college most football players have already suffered some sort of injury, just look at the profiles to the players that are in this years draft. Its not hard to get injured in the NFL and once you are, you potentially lose your job. Biggest example is Drew Bledsoe, he got injured and lost his job to brady, lost his job again with the bills and then got injured and lost his job to Romo in Dallas.

Let me try to explain the pay best i can with an example:
Jamal Lewis signed to 3 years, $26 million contract with the ravens in march 2006.
He played the 2006 season, made $5 million signing bonus and $6 million salary for the season.
He was cut on the Wed before the Sat in which he was due $5 million salary bonus, and he wont be playing for the ravens obviously so no $5 mil 2007 season salary.
Ditto for 2008 roster bonus and season pay.

So what was once 3 years $26 million turns out to be $11 million and a wave goodbye. This doesnt just apply to Jamal Lewis, MANY players are cut just days before they are due a roster bonus, but people dont think about that when they see the 3 year $26 million figure.[/QUOTE]
Just to preface this, I didn't read your whole post because I don't care enough about football but see where you are going with it.

That being said, I understand they train really hard for it and take it super seriously, but they play A fuckING GAME! Also, I understand that everyone doesn't make millions per season, but a good majority of them make a large chunk of change per game. What other job do you know of where you can sit on the bench after working out all week and make 15 thousand dollars a week?

To sum it up, I think all professional atheletes are over paid for doing something recreational. However, that is not to say that they don't work hard and not to say that there aren't those who are actually good role models,
 
While I agree that both Henry and Jones should be suspended they should have waited until they went through the judicial process before levying suspensions. This sets a really bad precedent.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'] This sets a really bad precedent.[/QUOTE]

They damaged the league by just being arrested. That's all that matters. It's part of the personal conduct policy.

Persons Charged With Criminal Activity
Any Covered Person arrested for or charged with conduct prohibited by this policy will be required to undergo an immediate, mandatory clinical evaluation and, if directed, appropriate counseling. Such evaluation and counseling must be performed under the direction and supervision of the NFL Vice President of Player and Employee Development. Failure to cooperate with evaluation and counseling (including being arrested for or charged with additional criminal activity during the evaluation and counseling period) shall itself be conduct detrimental to the National Football League and shall be punishable by fine or suspension at the discretion of the Commissioner.
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Since these people (and Tank Johnson once he gets out of the pokey) were charged with crimes and then were charged with other, seperate crimes, then they are automatically subject to the fines and suspensions. They knew about it, they chose to ignore it.
 
Just because someone gets arrested doesn't mean they were guilty though. Under this type of policy someone like Ray Lewis probably wouldn't be playing in the league right now because he was charged with murder.

And damaging the league is a bunch of BS. Most people don't care about criminal activity as long as their team wins. No one cared in Dallas when they were the drugstore cowboys because they won, and Cincy only became an issue this year because they lost. And the NFL pretty much gets a free pass from the media compared to baseball or basketball just like they do from the fans.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Just because someone gets arrested doesn't mean they were guilty though. Under this type of policy someone like Ray Lewis probably wouldn't be playing in the league right now because he was charged with murder.

And damaging the league is a bunch of BS. Most people don't care about criminal activity as long as their team wins. No one cared in Dallas when they were the drugstore cowboys because they won, and Cincy only became an issue this year because they lost. And the NFL pretty much gets a free pass from the media compared to baseball or basketball just like they do from the fans.[/QUOTE]


on the other side of the spectrum, if this happened to anyone at a normal job there ass would have been canned a long time ago. Imagine if a teacher did 1/100th of the shit Pacman did his ass would have been fired the next day. I dont buy the role model angle, or the bad for the league angle, I see it as you work for a company you have to follow certain basic guidelines like avoid being arrested over and over again. There is no excuse for that sort of behavior and he got was coming to him, it should have happened a long time ago. All these athletes think they are above the law, these people would be used car salesman and factory workers without their respective league, and its about time they realize it still a job and they need to act accordingly.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']on the other side of the spectrum, if this happened to anyone at a normal job there ass would have been canned a long time ago. Imagine if a teacher did 1/100th of the shit Pacman did his ass would have been fired the next day. I dont buy the role model angle, or the bad for the league angle, I see it as you work for a company you have to follow certain basic guidelines like avoid being arrested over and over again. There is no excuse for that sort of behavior and he got was coming to him, it should have happened a long time ago. All these athletes think they are above the law, these people would be used car salesman and factory workers without their respective league, and its about time they realize it still a job and they need to act accordingly.[/quote]

Exactly.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Just because someone gets arrested doesn't mean they were guilty though. Under this type of policy someone like Ray Lewis probably wouldn't be playing in the league right now because he was charged with murder. [/QUOTE]


Woah, woah, woah. Let's slow down the half-truth train here.

Ray Lewis was charged with a crime. Here's the difference between Ray Lewis and Henry/Jones: Lewis kept his nose clean while he went to trial.

I'll tell you want these guys have been charged with, but I'll need to do it in list format:
  • 12/15/05 - marijuana possesion, lack of insurance (pled guilty)
  • 1/30/06 - carrying a concealed weapon, aggravated assault with a firearm (pled guilty)
  • 6/3/06 - DUI
  • 9/25/06 - In vehicle, drunk, when Odell Thurmann got a DUI - no charges, but was suspended
  • 10/6/06 - Suspended for violating NFL's PCP
  • 1/25/07 - Providing alcohol to minors (pled guilty)

Keep in mind this is just Henry. Jones has been involved in 10 incidents in the same time frame, one of those being connected to a man being shot and paralyzed. He's been arrested five times.

The PCP is part of the NFLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement. The players agreed to the policy. I can quote Dan Patrick, he said on his show today that there were quite a few players that want the both of them gone. Permanently. So don't think this is so dangerous to the players.

It's one thing to be with the wrong people at the wrong time one time like Ray Lewis, Jamaal Lewis, etc. You get caught going through an airport with a wizzinator, it's all fun and games to the rest of us. Five arrests on fairly serious charges? Police departments just don't go charging people because they don't like them. Where there's smoke, there's fire.


Oh, and Ray Lewis may have pled out to be on the safe side, but his associates were found innocent.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']These terrible Pacman puns must end![/QUOTE]


it can't end, i just got a extra man

[media]http://pac-man.classicgaming.gamespy.com/Sounds/GAMEBEGINNING.WAV[/media]
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Woah, woah, woah. Let's slow down the half-truth train here.

Ray Lewis was charged with a crime. Here's the difference between Ray Lewis and Henry/Jones: Lewis kept his nose clean while he went to trial.

I'll tell you want these guys have been charged with, but I'll need to do it in list format:
  • 12/15/05 - marijuana possesion, lack of insurance (pled guilty)
  • 1/30/06 - carrying a concealed weapon, aggravated assault with a firearm (pled guilty)
  • 6/3/06 - DUI
  • 9/25/06 - In vehicle, drunk, when Odell Thurmann got a DUI - no charges, but was suspended
  • 10/6/06 - Suspended for violating NFL's PCP
  • 1/25/07 - Providing alcohol to minors (pled guilty)

Keep in mind this is just Henry. Jones has been involved in 10 incidents in the same time frame, one of those being connected to a man being shot and paralyzed. He's been arrested five times.

The PCP is part of the NFLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement. The players agreed to the policy. I can quote Dan Patrick, he said on his show today that there were quite a few players that want the both of them gone. Permanently. So don't think this is so dangerous to the players.

It's one thing to be with the wrong people at the wrong time one time like Ray Lewis, Jamaal Lewis, etc. You get caught going through an airport with a wizzinator, it's all fun and games to the rest of us. Five arrests on fairly serious charges? Police departments just don't go charging people because they don't like them. Where there's smoke, there's fire.


Oh, and Ray Lewis may have pled out to be on the safe side, but his associates were found innocent.[/QUOTE]


You are looking at it completely wrong. Murder is much more serious than anything that either of these men have been convicted or charged with (to my knowledge Pac Man still has not been charged in the Las Vegas incident). Thinking the league has killers on the field is a much more damaging prospect than thinking that there are people on the field who have DUI's and other offenses like that. Chris Henry is an idiot, there is no denying that, but nothing he has done has come even close to what Ray and Jamaal were linked to.
 
Good. This will do a lot for the NFL.

Only wah wah wah wahing Pacman will be doing will be at home on the couch playing pacman!
/badjoke

Anyway...Calvin Johnson come to san fran!!!! If youre gone then dwayne jarrett!
 
im surprised at mel kiper's new projections..i guess the addition of darwin walker to the bills moved up okobe to 8th and now we may draft patrick willis out of ole miss. im excited to see what will happen.
 
The draft will be mighty interesting. I hope the raiders dont strike a deal before the morning because id like some surprise to who we take. I just hope to god al davis isnt dumb enough to take brady quinn over jamarcus, cj, or ad.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']You are looking at it completely wrong. Murder is much more serious than anything that either of these men have been convicted or charged with (to my knowledge Pac Man still has not been charged in the Las Vegas incident). Thinking the league has killers on the field is a much more damaging prospect than thinking that there are people on the field who have DUI's and other offenses like that. Chris Henry is an idiot, there is no denying that, but nothing he has done has come even close to what Ray and Jamaal were linked to.[/QUOTE]

The thing with Ray Lewis is, all of that happened during the offseason. We were allowed to see incident and trial before the league had to hand down any punishment. If it would have happened during the season, more than likely he would have been suspended. He pleaded to a lesser charge, something prosecutors and judges don't allow if they think they can get a conviction. As evidenced by the final outcome (even with Lewis testifying against), no one was proven guilty of murder. The league never had a killer on the field in Ray Lewis.

Ray Lewis was guilty of a misdemeanor, and put on 12 months probation. Now an obstruction charge still carried that probation, but in no way, shape or form was it as serious as the murder charge (and others) levied against him. Also, one glaring difference: Lewis showed remorse, and has not even sniffed the back of a squad car since.

That's really the croix: repeated problems. Henry is guilty of several crimes. Jones has been charged with a felony and misdemeanor count of obstruction here, will possibly be charged with felony coercion and two misdemeanors in Vegas, felony vandalism in 2005, he was arrested for hitting a fan in Oakland, disorderly conduct...

Do I really need to continue? What the league is looking at is a continued pattern of misconduct with no signs of stopping. Do you really think it's ok to be charged with lots of crimes, just as long as you are never convicted? Anyone in America would be fired for half the things he did. It's breaking the law, even if you don't pay the penalty for it.

As much as I know about the Vegas incident, the police were recommending charges, but the DA told them to buff up their case and investigate more.
 
As to the player behavior issue, Its a product of our society, not a few bad apples. Frankly, I'm surprised more players aren't suspended or charged more often. Many of the players from poor backgrounds, typically black, were not even able to read at a 3rd grade level in college. They have learned from an early age that everything can be dealt with as long as they play well during the game. They were allowed to slip by or assisted with everything that was difficult or out of their charachter to attempt, so they never grew as people beyond the core values they learned as children. I even had a kid on my team who lived out of a cardboard box part of his childhood.

Go Joey Harrington, show us what your made of this time!
 
[quote name='NWgamer666']As to the player behavior issue, Its a product of our society, not a few bad apples. Frankly, I'm surprised more players aren't suspended or charged more often. Many of the players from poor backgrounds, typically black, were not even able to read at a 3rd grade level in college. They have learned from an early age that everything can be dealt with as long as they play well during the game. They were allowed to slip by or assisted with everything that was difficult or out of their charachter to attempt, so they never grew as people beyond the core values they learned as children. I even had a kid on my team who lived out of a cardboard box part of his childhood.[/QUOTE]

I'll half agree with what you said, and leave it at that.

Go Joey Harrington, show us what your made of this time!
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I really don't know what they are thinking. Vick, Harrington, Shockley, Redman and Kilian. Harrington got promised the #2 slot to sign, but don't be surprised to see him #3, or cut.
 
He could be cut, but He's got that same winner mentality that montana, marino, and the greats have. A damn fine person too, never was too busy to say hi a person, no matter how unimportant they were. He's been shit on for too long. He'll get a chance to show something, Vick always gets injured at some point.
 
[quote name='NWgamer666']As to the player behavior issue, Its a product of our society, not a few bad apples. Frankly, I'm surprised more players aren't suspended or charged more often. Many of the players from poor backgrounds, typically black, were not even able to read at a 3rd grade level in college. They have learned from an early age that everything can be dealt with as long as they play well during the game. They were allowed to slip by or assisted with everything that was difficult or out of their charachter to attempt, so they never grew as people beyond the core values they learned as children. I even had a kid on my team who lived out of a cardboard box part of his childhood.

Go Joey Harrington, show us what your made of this time![/quote]Where did you get that from? NFL players can't read at a 3rd grade level, yet they can memorize hundreds of pages of a playbook? You know, even for star athletes, colleges DO require you to actually be able to read the brochure.
 
[quote name='NWgamer666']He could be cut, but He's got that same winner mentality that montana, marino, and the greats have. A damn fine person too, never was too busy to say hi a person, no matter how unimportant they were. He's been shit on for too long. He'll get a chance to show something, Vick always gets injured at some point.[/QUOTE]

Here's the issue though: the playbook. The offense that they have set up for Vick isn't going to change when Harrington or anyone else comes into the game. We saw from our experience with Schaub, you can be a great QB, but in the wrong system you're hosed. That's why I think Shockley will be the eventual backup. Same size, same ability to make the athletic plays that Vick does. Except Shockley doesn't freak out the minute linemen put their arms up. Word I've been getting out of Flowery Branch is that the two reasons they traded Schaub were money (for Vick), and how Shockley had impressed the hell out of everyone. You don't do that, then have a guy who hasn't done a whole lot with his career come in and be ahead of you, in a system that will basically be the same as the one you've been studying for the past year plus.

I have an article in mind that I've been meaning to write. Once it's done, I'll put you on to it.
 
:roll:[quote name='DomLando']Niners, third easiest schedule in the league. :)[/quote]

Woooo. Playoffs here we come!

Raiders got the hardest, muahahahaha!
 
[quote name='kevzik']:roll:

Woooo. Playoffs here we come!

Raiders got the hardest, muahahahaha![/QUOTE]

what a way to kick a man when he is down. the nfl must really hate the raiders more than the bengals.
 
Doesn't look too bad for the Bears. We can beat up on Detroit, Oakland, Minnesota, and Washington. Green Bay probably too. NFC North champions again! (Not that it's any great shakes)
 
[quote name='Illini Jeeper']Doesn't look too bad for the Bears. We can beat up on Detroit, Oakland, Minnesota, and Washington. Green Bay probably too. NFC North champions again! (Not that it's any great shakes)[/quote]

I would normally rebutt on that statement, but they way Daniel Snyder runs things I just don't know what to expect.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I would normally rebutt on that statement, but they way Daniel Snyder runs things I just don't know what to expect.[/QUOTE]

If you guys would have just sweetened the deal on the Briggs trade, I'd be happy as can be. It would help compliment the Archuleta deal. ;)
 
[quote name='klwillis45']Schedule is out now[/quote]

Ouch,
I smell 5-11 or 4-12 for my Vikes. Oh well, at least they play the Chargers, which is my 9 year old's fav team. Nothing like getting smack talked by your kid and there's really nothing you can say except for "Oh yeah, then you're grounded".
 
My mock draft from my blog http://nflisking.blogspot.com/
1. Oakland Raiders - Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech. They will not have Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson on the same team because asshole is contagious.

2. Detroit Lions - Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin. Matt Millen breathes a sigh of relief when they can't select a WR.

3. Cleveland Browns - JaMarcus Russell QB LSU. Charlie Weiss tries to sell Romeo Crennel on Quinn, but Phil Savage has an Alabama connection to Russell.

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma. I know what you're thinking: didn't Tampa just draft Cadillac Williams in the top 5? Well he's been run into the ground the last 2 years and AP is clearly the best player on the board.

5. Arizona Cardinals - Gaines Adams DE Clemson. Best defensive player in the draft, the Cardinals need a pass rusher to close out games.

6. Chicago Bears from Washington Redskins for Lance Briggs - LaRon Landry S LSU. At 2ish April 28, I don't see how the Bears won't jump at the trade.

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame. They just drafted Tarvaris Jackson, but they another QB is a much bigger need than DT, which is the other logical way to go.

8. Atlanta Falcons - Amobi Okoye DT Louisville. Okoye is the last blue chipper on the board.

9. Miami Dolphins - Levi Brown OT Penn State. Miami has spent a ton on their defense this offseason, time to share the love with the safest offensive player left.

10. Houston Texans - Alan Branch DT Michigan. The other options are DEs Anderson and Carriker, but if they draft a DE, they'd be criticized because of the Mario Williams pick last year, so once again that mistake affects a transaction.

11. San Francisco 49ers - Patrick Willis ILB Ole Miss. Slam dunk pick. As a coach/coordinator Mike Nolan has had Ray Lewis and Derek Smith at MLB. Think he wants an upgrade?

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall CB Michigan. It was between him and Lynch, but I think character issues make Lynch slide a little.

13. St. Louis Rams - Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh. They reached a little last year on Hill and they reach a little with Revis over Carriker.

14. Carolina Panthers - Greg Olsen TE Miami. Huge need for Carolina, seems like a match.

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Adam Carriker DE Nebraska. They're talking about moving to a 4-3, Carriker can play inside in a 4-3 or outside in a 3-4.

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshawn Lynch RB California. The Packers have been linked to Lynch for months. This pick might also be in play for Randy Moss.

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas. James Harris used to love picking weapons for Leftwich to fail to get the ball to, so it's time to address the defense.

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Lawrence Timmons OLB Florida State. The Bengals will take the best defensive player available, and all their starting LBs from last year are gone.

19. San Diego Chargers from Tennessee Titans for Michael Turner - Ted Ginn, Jr WR Ohio State. I see the Titans trading their 1st for the Chargers 1st and Michael Turner, and the Chargers need a difference maker at WR at KR/PR.

20. New York Giants - Joe Staley OT Central Michigan. Not a sexy pick but they desparately need a LT since Petitgout left.

21. Denver Broncos - Reggie Nelson S Florida. Champ Bailey, Dre Bly, John Lynch, and Nelson would be the nastiest secondary in the NFL.

22. Dallas Cowboys - Robert Meachem WR Tennessee. Jarvis Moss is also a possibility, but they need some youth at WR.

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Bowe WR LSU. Some day the chefs will find a receiver.

24. New England Patriots - Jon Beason OLB Miami. The Pats don't have any real needs but they lack depth at OLB.

25. New York Jets - Jarvis Moss Florida DE/OLB. Hybrids like Moss are tough to project in mock drafts because every team that has a 3-4 look can reach on them.

26. Philadelphia Eagles - Eric Wright CB UNLV. Workout guy who was productive for Rebels.

27. New Orleans Saints - Aaron Ross CB Texas. Cornerback is by far their biggest need, I guarantee they go corner in the 1st round.

28. New England Patriots - Brandon Meriweather S Miami. The kind of playmaker in the secondary that New England loves.

29. Baltimore Ravens - Ryan Kalil C USC. The Ravens have been hurting at center since Flynn left, if Kalil has as much of an impact as Mangold Newsome will be thrilled.

30. Tennessee Titans from San Diego Chargers - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC. Teams like the Titans always draft WRs in the first round, and I love reuniting these PTPers from the 2006 Rose Bowl.

31. Washington Redskins - Ben Grubbs OG Auburn. The Redskins love Auburn players, they have a hole created by Derrick Dockery's depature, I smell a match!

32. Indianapolis Colts - Paul Posluszny OLB Penn State. With Cato June gone they have a big hole, and this guy just looks like a Colt.
 
Raider rumors: Part Deux
The Moss for Aaron Rodgers rumor is picking up again as word spreads that they might go with Johnson @ #1
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']John Clayton is reporting the Raiders are looking to possibly sign Tim Rattay and then draft Calvin Johnson #1 overall.[/QUOTE]

He reports so many rumors, I think he talks out of his ass some times. The other rumor is Josh McCown to Raiders for a low draft pick (which would screw the Lions position over since it would allow the Raiders to draft CJ). Of course, this is Millen running the show, what a mess.

Another rumor is the Lions drafting CJ (assuming Russel goes #1) just for the sole purpose to trade him.

See, rumors are fun.
 
Not that its a rumor but if the Niners traded up to get Calvin I would be pretty happy draft day. But I know that is not going to happen. I still think Russel is going to #1 though. I think the Raiders would be dumb not to get a QB.
 
Latest (improbable) rumor is this:

Simeon Rice and the Bucs 1st(4) to Detroit for their 1st(#2) and problem child Mike Williams. And the Bucs take Calvin Johnson anyway.

If the Raiders take Calvin Johnson then this whole draft changes drastically, there will be draft pick trades all over the place.
 
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