Nintendo 3DS - General Discussion Thread

It's Wolfpup, Dallowtron.

Also, 3D Dot Heroes better be worth it. This is relevant because I get it today and because there should be a 3DS sequel/port. It's got 3D in the title for god's sake!
 
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-3ds-techspec-exploration-blog-entry

Here's Digital Foundry's take on the 3DS specs. Looks at them in comparison to other devices that make use of the same hardware. Put against the iPhone, it doesn't look all that impressive, although it does have the obvious benefit of not requiring a beefy OS to run while you're playing a game.

On the topic of 3D, i wonder if some developers will decide to completely ignore it while making their game in order to increase performance and make an overall better game.
 
Good point-I hope they're allowed to do that! Doing that could...what, double fill rate, effectively?

Regarding that article, it sure is disappointing that Nvidia got dumped for this other thing. I was worried it was going to be an underclocked Tegra 1, instead of an awesome full clocked Tegra 2...and instead it turns out to be worse than either :lol:
 
I like how we're having the exact same discussion we had six years ago when the DS came out, revolving around nothing but horsepower. Gamers never learn.
 
I usually like DF but that was a terrible article.

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So ya got a Triple eh? All three systems now? Or did you sell the 360. I'm not on much so haven't seen you.
Send me FR.

As for 3D Dot, even if you hate it, it was cheap right?
Nah, I really enjoyed it.
 
What was bad about it? And yeah, performance isn't directly connected to sales, but it doesn't mean it doesn't matter to us or games.
 
[quote name='dallow']So ya got a Triple eh? All three systems now? Or did you sell the 360. I'm not on much so haven't seen you.
Send me FR.

As for 3D Dot, even if you hate it, it was cheap right?
Nah, I really enjoyed it.[/QUOTE]

Yes.
Yes.
No.
Will do.
Yes. Doubt I'll hate it.
 
I'm not going to say that higher specs = higher sales, or higher specs = games are more fun...I just view higher specs as meaning higher potential. More system resources should, theoretically, allow developers to do more.
 
I'm thinking $220-250, edging toward the $250. Like it or not, Nintendo pretty much has the first few million of these things sold already, so they might as well milk the cash out on the wanting public.

Would like to be wrong though. 6 days until we find out.

There's a rumor going around that the system's buttons are backlit. This seems nice, but I hope you can turn it off, because it would waste the battery. It's not like a keyboard where I have so many buttons that I'd want the whole thing to be backlit.
 
Avatar movie pack in the new scuttlebutt.

My original guess was $250.
Not sure anymore, and probably a later American launch. :(

I'll import, even though region locked
 
I think someone said $150 at launch (not counting inflation). I'd expect $200 to be the highest, and given the lowish specs, I'm even more thinking that's the case.
 
[quote name='pete5883']No way this'll launch for $250 in the US. What's been the highest Nintendo handheld MSRP?[/QUOTE]

$190 For the XL. Would be surprised to see the 3DS for anything other than $200.
 
[quote name='dallow']Avatar movie pack in the new scuttlebutt. [/QUOTE]

Oooh, that's nice.

But do I really wanna watch a 3 hour movie on a tiny screen?
 
Ooooooh, I get it, it would be in "3D". Well, that one Samsung phone is including it, so I could actually see that happen.

Hmm...I guess it would be an interesting curiosity. I could compare the 3DS "3D" to crappy theater "3D". It might actually work better :lol: (Heaven help us if it's even worse)
 
The idea of this costing the same as a Wii (at launch) makes me sad. But I'd still probably buy it day 1 for $250. :x
 
To me, those specs (if true) scream $199 standalone or $250 with a pack-in. Nintendo isn't going to do both, though. The 2-color sku for the Cube at launch taught them that was a bad idea.
 
If it retails for $250, it better come with some kind of killer app, similar to how the Wii came with Wii Sports. Or, it better have a killer launch line-up. Personally, I see it launching in the $200-$220 range. Nothing in their specs are all that fancy.

Speaking of the launch line-up, have there been any titles confirmed as being available at launch?
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']\Speaking of the launch line-up, have there been any titles confirmed as being available at launch?[/QUOTE]

Nope, but hopefully we'll find out more next week.
 
My bread expires the same day Nintendo announces this thing. Coincidence?!?

I guess I could see it coming with a game for more than $200, though I think it more likely they'd do $200 with a game. I guess I'm sticking to $200 as my guess, though I'd be more surprised if it's $250 than $150.

EDIT: Then again, the Wii's price sure caught me off guard. And Wii Sports is crap, regardless of whether it unfortunately counts as a killer app *sigh*

Now including Super Mario Galaxy with the Wii, THAT would be a killer app...
 
Yeah, Wii Sports was awesome for what it needed to be. It was effective at showing off why the Wii wasn't just a Gamecube, and it was fun enough to move a couple million Wii units.

That's what I see the 3DS needing at launch if they're pricing it at $250...something to show off why it's not just a DSi.
 
The problem is it was Nintendo's worst pack in ever. It's a tech demo, and one that shows the tech doesn't even work.

It may be exactly what it needed, but it's still garbage.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']The problem is it was Nintendo's worst pack in ever. It's a tech demo, and one that shows the tech doesn't even work.

It may be exactly what it needed, but it's still garbage.[/QUOTE]

The bowling worked great, and that alone was fun for months. I must have sold 20 Wii's to friends and family who played Bowling on my Wii shortly after launch and then ran out and got a Wii. My friends mom still bowls regularly to this day.
 
Months? Months? Oh man, I'm being an ass here since obviously it's all personal preference, and I seriously have no issue whatsoever that you enjoyed it, but for me I played everything for minutes, and had no fun doing it. Only bothered to even crack it open because it was free and I felt obligated.
 
I hated it too but can easily see why it was so popular as a pack-in and why it sold a million+ in Japan standalone.
Just not for me.
 
[quote name='Puffa469']The bowling worked great, and that alone was fun for months. I must have sold 20 Wii's to friends and family who played Bowling on my Wii shortly after launch and then ran out and got a Wii. My friends mom still bowls regularly to this day.[/QUOTE]

I'm with Puffa. I played the Wii a ton when it first came out, and I invited everyone to try it. Took it to a couple parties too. It was always a big hit, especially the bowling.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']The problem is it was Nintendo's worst pack in ever. It's a tech demo, and one that shows the tech doesn't even work.

It may be exactly what it needed, but it's still garbage.[/QUOTE]
If it wasn't for bowling, and I guess tennis, I would agree. The other 3 are terrible. But I played bowling forever
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Months? Months? Oh man, I'm being an ass here since obviously it's all personal preference, and I seriously have no issue whatsoever that you enjoyed it, but for me I played everything for minutes, and had no fun doing it. Only bothered to even crack it open because it was free and I felt obligated.[/QUOTE]
You were playing by yourself, weren't you?

Loved baseball and tennis, but I thought golf was terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.
 
:rofl:

[quote name='willardhaven']Wii Sports was a superb pack-in. It would be awesome if the 3DS came with New Super Mario Bros. 3-D.[/QUOTE]
 
German newspaper suggests Q1 2011 release in European territories.

It also suggests a 200€ price point, which is roughly $270. I'm still thinking $249.99 is going to be the launch price, but this is just my speculation. No one knows where the paper got their details from, so it could just be speculation on their part.

GoNintendo also suggested that NoA knows "virtually nothing" about the press conference on Wednesday, which points to no NA details showing up (although who the hell really knows, NoA seems pretty clueless or intentionally secretive regarding NoJ details).

My prediction: Comes out in Japan in November for roughly 25,000 yen, launches with maybe a dozen titles with one or two being worthwhile but most likely ports, launches in America by March 2011 with maybe a few more titles, and may or may not launch in European territories shortly thereafter.

My thinking is that Nintendo knows that the Wii only has one real viable holiday season left, and that sales have dropped within the last few months. Given that, they'll want to salvage their earnings reports for the fiscal year, so they HAVE to get it out by the end of March 2011. So they'll shift their profits and revenue directly onto the 3DS to keep themselves looking pretty while the DS is slowly retired. This also suggests that they'll reveal new hardware - or at least a dose of it - at E3 2011. I don't suspect a hardware launch next year, but 2012 would basically be the absolute latest it could happen since there's essentially no way they'll be able to keep the Wii going with support beyond then (which is already dwindling, much like the Gamecube and N64 eras).

Take that all with a grain of salt as my personal prediction, because I have no info to go on other than what my silly brain can conjure up.
 
Just curious, but isn't it sorta an industry standard for the price in Euros to be the same number as the dollar price? So for example if that report is true, the 3DS would release at $200 in the US and 200 Euros in Europe.

Maybe I'm not thinking correctly but I seem to remember that the Wii was $250 US and 250 Euros at launch.

Either way, $200 for the 3DS and a March release (or hell, a Holiday release) in NA and I would be sold I think.
 
[quote name='Altanis']Just curious, but isn't it sorta an industry standard for the price in Euros to be the same number as the dollar price? So for example if that report is true, the 3DS would release at $200 in the US and 200 Euros in Europe.

Maybe I'm not thinking correctly but I seem to remember that the Wii was $250 US and 250 Euros at launch.

Either way, $200 for the 3DS and a March release (or hell, a Holiday release) in NA and I would be sold I think.[/QUOTE]
I did a little googling, and you're right. Xbox 360 launched for $300 and €300, DS Lite launched for $170 and €170, and the Wii launched at $250 and €250. This is good news.
 
[quote name='Strell']
My prediction: Comes out in Japan in November for roughly 25,000 yen, launches with maybe a dozen titles with one or two being worthwhile but most likely ports, launches in America by March 2011 with maybe a few more titles, and may or may not launch in European territories shortly thereafter.

My thinking is that Nintendo knows that the Wii only has one real viable holiday season left, and that sales have dropped within the last few months. Given that, they'll want to salvage their earnings reports for the fiscal year, so they HAVE to get it out by the end of March 2011. So they'll shift their profits and revenue directly onto the 3DS to keep themselves looking pretty while the DS is slowly retired. This also suggests that they'll reveal new hardware - or at least a dose of it - at E3 2011. I don't suspect a hardware launch next year, but 2012 would basically be the absolute latest it could happen since there's essentially no way they'll be able to keep the Wii going with support beyond then (which is already dwindling, much like the Gamecube and N64 eras).

Take that all with a grain of salt as my personal prediction, because I have no info to go on other than what my silly brain can conjure up.[/QUOTE]

I could see it reach America this year because you're right it will have many ports to start off or at least games significantly built off of previous titles. I could also see exactly what you're saying play out. Also, this holiday does Nintendo want to make more money off the Wii or give less portable marketshare to Apple while getting more people to spend money on 3DS instead of PS3+Move and 360+Kinect. Perhaps Apple is seen as a bigger threat currently in the portable space than Sony and MS look in the console space since each new console generation is truly a new start. They're also looking at how far away the successor to Wii is based on where that hardware is at and it's software. If DS continues to sell well this holiday, then maybe they'll milk it and have another reason to delay 3DS here.
 
I think they could get it out in time for the holidays, but it's a question of whether it's worth it. First, they'd need a huge stockpile of systems, which they may or may not have. Second, Wii sales are beginning to sag, but is it enough to require a different 'boost' this holiday? Also take into account that the Wii has Kirby, Donkey Kong, and Mickey out this fall. That will help.

My honest guess is that they'll stick to the DSi plan and launch in the spring... March/April/May.

Either way, let's be fair, this thing'll sell no matter when they launch it.
 
Nintendo's hotly-anticipated 3DS is coming, and the only questions that remain are 'when' and 'how much'. Leave it to wild speculation to help keep us busy in the meantime while Nintendo works out all the details, but at least one newspaper thinks they've got the goods that should help fuel plenty of interest before the company makes the big reveal. The 3DS is not only coming this year, but it'll probably cost less when it does.

The 3DS is set to hit Japanese retail shelves this November, followed by an early 2011 touchdown across Europen and then (possibly) North America. The info comes by way of German newspaper Bild, which accurately predicted the arrival of Nintendo's original Wii Remote back in 2005 before Nintendo made it official.

The paper also expects launch titles to include Mario Kart 3D, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, and even Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle. The report also lists the 3DS retailing for 200 euros (roughly US $269). This would put the 3D-capable portable in line with many of the more reasonable predictions, which have been anywhere between $199 and $299.

If this information proves to be true (gain of salt, folks) it would also help confirm rumors to the case. The 3DS shown at this year's E3 seemed relatively complete and ready to hit retail shelves, so there's little reason for Nintendo to physically keep the millions of potential fans looking to get their 3D action on - sans glasses, of course.

Thanks to Nintendo Everything for the bits and bytes!
 
We'll find out soon enough, but I really don't see how Nintendo would launch in Japan this year but skip out on launching before america's holiday shopping season. Doesn't seem likely, and it doesn't follow the track record they established with the Wii and DS.
 
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