Nintendo DSi and DSi XL Out Now. "3DS" Showing at E3

seems like occasionally my DSi just froze after turning on and takes a few second before I can use the d pad or touch screen.
 
[quote name='crunchewy']
Even though I only have one DSiWare game (birds and beans), it makes it painfully clear that the way to go is entirely download games. Enough with cartridges. Fiddling with and carrying cartridges is a nuisance, whereas Birds & Beans is always there and is quick to launch. I just wish I had a ton more games to choose from, and much, much better games. All DSi games should be like this..[/QUOTE]

It's the way to go for collectors who only buy new games and never sell their games after beating them.

Sucks for people who mostly buy used games, use Goozex and sell/trade 99% of their games immediately after the credits role.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']It's the way to go for collectors who only buy new games and never sell their games after beating them.

Sucks for people who mostly buy used games, use Goozex and sell/trade 99% of their games immediately after the credits role.[/QUOTE]

That would be true if the download games cost the same as the cartridge games, but they can't price them like that and expect to succeed, nor do they need to because their costs to distribute are lower.

Yes, you can buy a DS game for too much money and then resell it for less and take a loss, or you could just buy a download game that was a lot less expensive to start with, didn't require you to carry around cartridges, never went out of stock/became rare, etc.

In the case of the iPod Touch/iPhone, the pricing of games is ridiculously lower. I've paid 99 cents for most of my games there. The most I ever paid was $10, and that was early on/when I was a fool. :) Even the top tier games aren't priced at $10 now. Most are $8 or less, mostly much less. Now, I don't expect Nintendo/Sony to go that low with their pricing, but as long as the pricing is right, the inability to resell is a non-issue, and the benefits are substantial.
 
[quote name='crunchewy']That would be true if the download games cost the same as the cartridge games, but they can't price them like that and expect to succeed, nor do they need to because their costs to distribute are lower.
[/QUOTE]

That's true for short little iPod games or XBLA games etc. But I doubt it would hold true for digital download of full games like the next Zelda game if it were download etc.

Look at music. Digital albums are mostly $9.99. The CD is that price or within a couple bucks release week and in sales. Same with eBooks--often cheaper than the hardback, but the same or more than the mass market paperbacks.

But to each their own. I don't mind eBooks as I seldom re-read books and I like not having to go the library or to buy a book that's just wasting space in the house. So I like just grabbing something for my Kindle, and anything I want to collect and keep around I just buy the real book.

Music I won't do, even though I do 95% of my listening on MP3s I'd rather have the physical CD. I'll be listening to music for the rest of my life, so I want a physical copy I can always fall back on if I lose my MP3s and backups somehow. Will be the same with movies once digital movies are more widespread.

Games I won't do other than a $10 or less arcade game or something as I seldom replay games, don't have much interest in games period these days really. So I have little interest in buying them if I can't resell them and end up having spent hardly anything on it. But honestly, that's more playing devil's advocate as I doubt I'll be gaming beyond this generation anyway, so I'll be out long before the full digital distribution revolution comes around anyway.
 
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It may not sound like it, but I am holding out some hope still. I'm not getting rid of my DSi. For one thing there is the prospect of the Virtual Console. I can see my future DSi use consisting almost entirely of VC games. And I'm sure there will be some worthy DSiWare titles as well.

One thing I hope with regard to the DSiVC is that they don't limit it to portable games. The older home consoles could be supported too, couldn't they, like the NES and Sega Master System? By that I mean I believe their resolution is no higher then the DS's screens, but don't quote me on it. I don't think I want any consoles with resolutions that were higher then the DSi's screens, as I'm not a fan of scaling down or, worse, scrolling.

In the short term I think I ought to take my own advice and pick up a copy of Peggle Dual Shot. I know that will have me playing my DSi a lot for a while.
 
I want my DSi FILLED with downloaded titles, I hope an SD card solution comes at some point, but I doubt it'll get filled anytime soon.

I think I'll bite on Brain Age, I need a second game.
 
My DSi arrived yesterday, and thankfully no dead pixels (my ds lite had one).

I had some light leakage on the left side of the touch screen, but I just squeezed the DSi and it went away.
 
[quote name='J7.']Where/how does the light leak?[/QUOTE]

On some models, the frame around the touch screen leaves a tiny bit of room thereby letting light leak between the frame and the DSi body.

http://i42.tinypic.com/dc3asp.jpg

That picture is what dallow posted on another forum. You can see the leak near the top left of the screen.

Mine doesn't have it, but i think it's pretty much stuck that way. Sorry dallow!
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Yeah, my launch DS lite has a bit of light leakage like that around the touch screen. Never bothered me.[/QUOTE]

My DSL also had light leakage, as does my new DSi. IMO this isn't really a deal breaker for me. They both have served me well so far. Now a dead pixel would piss me off.
 
[quote name='shlby']On some models, the frame around the touch screen leaves a tiny bit of room thereby letting light leak between the frame and the DSi body.

http://i42.tinypic.com/dc3asp.jpg

That picture is what dallow posted on another forum. You can see the leak near the top left of the screen.

Mine doesn't have it, but i think it's pretty much stuck that way. Sorry dallow![/quote]
Doesn't look that bad at all. I guess I would be a little annoyed though if I had just bought it.
 
Did you guys that have light leakage try pushing the frame outward? I just put two fingernails on the touch screen frame and pushed toward where the leakage was and that fixed it.
 
[quote name='ihadFG']Did you guys that have light leakage try pushing the frame outward? I just put two fingernails on the touch screen frame and pushed toward where the leakage was and that fixed it.[/QUOTE]

This technique actually worked quite well for me. I used a cloth to prevent any scratches. Most of the leakage is gone. I still have one little light spot viewable only at a certain angle. Thanks for the Protip.
 
[quote name='Strell']Just picked mine up. Snazzy.

I highly suggest everyone do the following - get a piece of heavy duty clear packaging tape and put it on the bottom of your system over the barcode sticker. I do this for all my electronics. It makes sure that such things never get worn away or destroyed, and since serial numbers and the like are highly important for warranty issues, it's a good thing to do to safeguard your machine and yourself.

So, yeah. Do that. Sooner than later.

I also suggest you copy down the serial number in a text file or something to keep on hand. But then again, I'm OCD about such things. It's just a suggestion.[/quote]

Having OCD could be awesome yet unhealthy at times. =P I don't have that disorder but I think I'm quite obsessed with many things, even little stuff. It helps me to be organized that way I can feel at no ease with peace. XD
 
[quote name='pete5883']Do any retailers have DSi's on display? I want to check it out before I buy, but Gamestop still only has Lites out.[/QUOTE]


I looked around this past week as well, but no Gamestop had them on display here either. I mainly wanted to try it out to see if the dpad has as much improvement over the lite as people say.
 
Something I can definitely say for the DSi is that my kids really like the cameras/photo app and the sound app. If you've got kids, those two features are a definite win. I like them too, but my kids really like them. For me the novelty will wear off soon enough, but I think they'll last much longer for kids. My kids have a real camera, but they have a lot more fun with the DSi cameras and app.
 
[quote name='shlby']On some models, the frame around the touch screen leaves a tiny bit of room thereby letting light leak between the frame and the DSi body.

http://i42.tinypic.com/dc3asp.jpg

That picture is what dallow posted on another forum. You can see the leak near the top left of the screen.

Mine doesn't have it, but i think it's pretty much stuck that way. Sorry dallow![/quote]Ha, thanks.

[quote name='J7.']Doesn't look that bad at all. I guess I would be a little annoyed though if I had just bought it.[/quote]It is/was actually much worse than that picture showed.
The crappy camera darkened out most of the light spots.

[quote name='ihadFG']Did you guys that have light leakage try pushing the frame outward? I just put two fingernails on the touch screen frame and pushed toward where the leakage was and that fixed it.[/quote]I did this and couldn't really get it to squeeze.
I tried once more a few days later and really put some pressure on it, finally got most of the light blocked.
 
I got a question for you dudes.
I linked my club nintendo account to my dsi and got my free 1000 nintendo points. Now if I try to link my club nintendo account on another NEW dsi, would I get another 1000 points?
 
I'm assuming no because you only get Club Nintendo points for 1 of every game you own, not multiple copies.
 
...ignorant question.
To download games, does one need an SD card?..there IS internal memory on the DS, right?

I don't mind buying an SD card, really. They are like $4 for like 1GB which is fine. Just curious, though.
 
[quote name='lilboo']...ignorant question.
To download games, does one need an SD card?..there IS internal memory on the DS, right?

I don't mind buying an SD card, really. They are like $4 for like 1GB which is fine. Just curious, though.[/QUOTE]

You gots 1000 blocks to play with internally.

I think the largest games so far are still under 100, so you've got some leeway.

The 2GB I've got in mine says it has 9,999 blocks free. I'm wondering if the firmware of the system isn't smart enough to see more than that, because the same on the Wii nets ....what, 12,000+? Likewise, with all the hoopla of the SD card solution for the Wii, you'd think the same would be going on here. But it isn't - you have to clean the fridge currently. I'm hoping that changes down the line.

I could see it not happening, though. Nintendo could be thinking that a portable with an SD card is more prone/viable to mass piracy than a console that tends to stay in one place.

Guess we'll see though.

Also, remember that this thing can accept SDHC. Just in case you think you need a lot of space.
 
[quote name='Nohbdy']I'm assuming no because you only get Club Nintendo points for 1 of every game you own, not multiple copies.[/quote]

what if it were a different color dsi?
 
Does anyone know if they are going to release different colors for the DSi anytime soon? (My nephew wanted a white one for his birthday which is in June.)
 
[quote name='Strell']You gots 1000 blocks to play with internally.

I think the largest games so far are still under 100, so you've got some leeway.

The 2GB I've got in mine says it has 9,999 blocks free. I'm wondering if the firmware of the system isn't smart enough to see more than that, because the same on the Wii nets ....what, 12,000+? Likewise, with all the hoopla of the SD card solution for the Wii, you'd think the same would be going on here. But it isn't - you have to clean the fridge currently. I'm hoping that changes down the line.

I could see it not happening, though. Nintendo could be thinking that a portable with an SD card is more prone/viable to mass piracy than a console that tends to stay in one place.

Guess we'll see though.

Also, remember that this thing can accept SDHC. Just in case you think you need a lot of space.[/QUOTE]

1000 blocks on the system? That sounds ok. I'm going to imagine the games are smaller than the Wiiware/VC games in terms of blocks? Because of that, it sounds like 1000 blocks could last awhile.

Either way, I'm gonna get an SD card just for this when I get a DSi. Probably an SDHC. Just don't want to have to keep switching back and forth between the Wii and the DS.


[quote name='Solori']Does anyone know if they are going to release different colors for the DSi anytime soon? (My nephew wanted a white one for his birthday which is in June.)[/QUOTE]


Yeah, there's def going to be different colors. There's always different colors..especially with Nintendo portables. However, it just came out. Don't expect a new color by June. Probably not until at least next year. At the very least, I could see a special edition color coming out for Christmas.
 
[quote name='Solori']Does anyone know if they are going to release different colors for the DSi anytime soon? (My nephew wanted a white one for his birthday which is in June.)[/QUOTE]
Tell him to stop endorsing neutral colors and ask for blue.
 
Thanks for the reply Lilboo and Nhbdy.

I knew it was a longshot. But I also know that Nintendo loves making different colors for the DS so I was hoping they were planning on doing it sooner rather than later.

I don't know why the kid wants white. He wanted a white ds lite too. But I messed up and bought him a blue one. He seems to have a long memory about me not buying him the right color so I was hoping this time I could get him the color he wanted. Oh well, I'll just have to explain to him that it is a black/blue DSi or no DSi.

It should be interesting to try out the DSi I get for him. I can't decide if it would be worth it for me to upgrade my DS lite at this time so at least I'll have access to one to help me make my decision.
 
[quote name='lilboo']I'm going to imagine the games are smaller than the Wiiware/VC games in terms of blocks? [/QUOTE]

Aye. Check the DSi Shop thread I've got going - I'm listing the sizes. Some of them are as small as 20 blocks or less. The larger titles are clocking in at just under a 100. So unless there's no SD card storage in the future (which would be stupid given the response the Wii version got), you could probably still fit a hefty number of things in system memory before "cleaning the fridge."

The copy speed back-and-forth seemed fast enough, by the way. I think I'm going to pick up a speedy SDHC in a few months.

[quote name='Nohbdy']Tell him to stop endorsing neutral colors and ask for blue.[/QUOTE]

Here here!

I changed my mind and got the blue one at the last minute. I like it quite a bit - grows on me a little more each day. It just pops so well - makes it all unique against every other digital thingy I have that is black (phone, PSP, clocks, iPod, etc). Gives it more personality and uniqueness. Kind of a weird thought for an inanimate object, but still.

I'll admit I'd prefer a darker blue. Maybe in the future.

@Solori

Lilboo had the right idea. There's probably going to be a limited edition color around Thanksgiving/Christmas. I'd expect something metallic, probably branded with a Nintendo character.

I'm actually going to predict that white DSis won't make it to America anytime soon, since that's kind of the token color for the iPod, and Nintendo might be trying to distance themselves. I know - it doesn't work as a reason that well, seeing as how iPhones are black anyway. But eh. It's just a thought.

There is a possibility of a new color by Christmas that's not limited. I'm going to guess....oh, red. Green is my backup. Followed by silver, then another blue, then a pink.

Really it'll get announced the second DSi sales drop. :p Dunno how long that'll be - it's selling better than I imagined, given that I still think people will see the higher price and go for a Lite instead. I guess we'll see.
 
[quote name='Strell']I'm actually going to predict that white DSis won't make it to America anytime soon, since that's kind of the token color for the iPod, and Nintendo might be trying to distance themselves.[/QUOTE]
Which is strange considering all of the pre-release material showed the DSi in white.
 
Im buying a DSi tonight, so I called GS yesterday to ask what they had in colors (I have to go to GS because I need to do the DS Lite trade in and the only local one (as of last night) only had 3 blue ones. I live in a rural area so Im positive there will be at least one left tonight. As someone who will be playing it in the hallways of their high school and on their bus, should I go for the blue one if its my only choice?

EDIT: Forgot to mention that while I really like the blue color, Im unsure if Im risking the chance of being mocked on the playground ;)
 
I am convinced that Nintendo intentionally picked that blue just to see how bad of a color they could make and still sell.

If they had done the usual white and pink, I bet they would have sold a lot more. Those colors have been out of stock in the DS Lite for a long time.
 
[quote name='Zing']I am convinced that Nintendo intentionally picked that blue just to see how bad of a color they could make and still sell.

If they had done the usual white and pink, I bet they would have sold a lot more. Those colors have been out of stock in the DS Lite for a long time.[/QUOTE]

Really, I actually like the blue, it's a little different. I actually see a lot of the pink ones in my area.
 
[quote name='Zing']I am convinced that Nintendo intentionally picked that blue just to see how bad of a color they could make and still sell.

[/QUOTE]

You're a douche.
 
Since Nohbdy apparently has some idea of what he is talking about, could I get some input on the Blue DSi?

edit: I think I have another way to get a black one if I need it, but Im unsure if I want it now.Blues growing on me as I look at it more.
 
I didn't luke the blue color when looking at it on the web, but when I saw it in person at the Nintendo World Store I changed my mind. I actually wish I'd gotten blue. It looks much better then it photographs.
 
Just because you don't like the color doesn't mean it's bad.

Besides, the white DSLs are sold out because they've been discontinued, if reports are to be believed. That might be what Zing meant, but I'm not 100% sure.
 
Then its settled. Im getting blue :D. Also chewy, based on your reccomendation, I found a Micro recently, and they are freakin awesome. I only wish I my GCN cable would work with it to transfer guys from my Pokemon XD onto my Emerald to clone for Platinum, but I can always borrow my friends GBA if I need to
 
I got the blue and love it. My like my purple GCN, it looks like a toy/game system, and that's what I found appealing.
 
[quote name='Strell']Besides, the white DSLs are sold out because they've been discontinued, if reports are to be believed. That might be what Zing meant, but I'm not 100% sure.[/QUOTE]
Yes. The fact that used white/pink DS Lites go for $100+ on craigslist even without the box says something.
 
Got mine. The picture quality is better than I expected, but the blurriness when you move in front of the camera is pretty awful. The new L and R buttons are pretty cool.

I got Warioware Snapped with my free points, and while getting the camera to recognize you is very frustrating, the pictures you get out of it are so worth it. It's a lot shorter than I expected, though.
 
The points were free, and I've already played it a few times. It really should've been 200 points, but whatever. It's a ridiculous oversight (or serious shortcoming) that not only can you not permanently save the photos from Warioware Snapped, but they all erase when you close the system.
 
Both of my kids have DSlites. My son wants to upgrade via gamestop to DSI for his BDay. However, he peeled off serial # so they won't take it, and my daughter won't trade Him her DS that still has sticker. Since I bought both, can I peel her serial off and put it on his? I know she won't be able to trade hers, but she just got an Ipod touch, and she's just being a little turd about it anyway, she doesn't use her DS now and I would really like to save $70. Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place, I only buy this stuff, that's all I know.
 
[quote name='M&Rmom']Both of my kids have DSlites. My son wants to upgrade via gamestop to DSI for his BDay. However, he peeled off serial # so they won't take it, and my daughter won't trade Him her DS that still has sticker. Since I bought both, can I peel her serial off and put it on his? I know she won't be able to trade hers, but she just got an Ipod touch, and she's just being a little turd about it anyway, she doesn't use her DS now and I would really like to save $70. Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place, I only buy this stuff, that's all I know.[/QUOTE]

I'm surprised they won't take one with a serial sticker, with their low standards.

I see no reason why you couldn't do what you suggest - removing the daughter's to put on son's. No one is going to trace it back or call you up or anything. Gamestop couldn't care less either way (even though I'm still surprised they'd enforce a rule like this, what with the condition I've seen their stock in).

As a friendly suggestion, with new systems you buy, you might want to get some clear packaging tape and put it over the serial sticker. That'll protect them and might impress a "don't remove me" sort of quality.

Good luck.

Also, technically this isn't the right place for this post, but no one is going to give you grief about it. At least, the sensible part of our population won't and shouldn't. So feel free to ask more as needed, and some of us will try to help as best we can.
 
Thank you Strell. I appreciate you being nice. Maybe the reason this Gamestop is more "strict" is because it's in a high-end shopping center and connected to a Barnes and Noble and has lots of traffic. Maybe I'll check around for one on the outskirts with a manager that looks to be still in high school that I might be able sway with some stealthy mom moves! Just kidding! But from what I've read here, GS isn't consistent so I'll keep looking, it's worth the $70.
 
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