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I've since watched the video while doing spreadsheet work.

The video is apt and essentially what I've been saying with the context of 40+ years worth of data analyzed and contextualized to understand the situation.

The TL;DW: Nintendo has, historically, had the best success when they employ their modern leaderships "Blue Ocean" strategy of innovation with affordable hardware versus a the same, but better, strategy.

Essentially, they see a 30% dip in sales for those generations, whereas innovation, along with new games, moved mountains.

Nintendo's current leadership are bean counters, not gamers like Iwata or Gunpei, and have been doing basically everything those two said they wouldn't. Race to the bottom software strategy (ex. mobile schlock), fees, rehashes, and essentially squeezing every nickel as a perception of being the "high value" brand versus "best value" or affordable one. (One of the reasons Players Choice branding died.)

Couple all that with higher prices than previous systems historically when you consider the older systems saw substantial price breaks early in their lifespans (mainly 50% off one year in) and, with currently significant economic uncertainty, there's a valid argument Nintendo is committing the same mistake they've made several times before.

So unless you want to call this video also trolling, like folks have said about me, there's plenty of data to support the idea is wait and see if Nintendo is making a mistake, and that the pricing is 100% about "line must go up" logic and not about any sort of real world costs, more so since Nintendo has built their brand on efficiency and cost saving to maximize margins in a customer friendly manner (or at least succeeded the most when they did).

I do love the niggles about how the Wii U and 3DS sold out quickly, even getting scalped, as a historical reminder that launch window sales defy logic and reasoning and are just hype points.

Aside, the channel in question is great, I've watched their stuff before. It's not some random "anti-Switch 2" screed, but just measuring the present versus the past.

Edit: TL;DR: Nintendo is less and less Gunpei and Iwata's company and more and more like Disney, likely seeking greater profits from less effort; as the video states, Nintendo used to pass on savings to the fans, now passes them on to shareholders.
 
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Still think people are going to be hit with exhiliration overload in three days. When everyone gains access to games (reviews) simultaneously, and about once every ~3 weeks after that.

and honestly asdf the youtubers. I hate the "influencer" news cycle and rewards system these days. The only thing I'm really negative on is that these machines won't work straight outta the box without a firmware update. But this release is gonna be huge. You may not like Nintendo. But most of what they do is a master class in controlling messaging and marketing. I think we're gonna get hit with a wave of euphoria here on Thursday.
 
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walletandgromice said:
I hope there are plenty of people who agree with the negativity about this console because I would like there to be stock so I can walk into a store on release morning. I didn't care much at the time of pre-orders, but now I'm bored and looking for a new toy to distract/escape for a bit.
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Funny you should say that. I think everyone is going to be pleasantly surprised in stores on Thursday. Target stores are getting a ton; they will also be available in-store. (What a novel concept right?) The Gamestop pre-order totals made available gave the clue away a lonnng time ago. I also think the system is going to give such a fantastic initial impression and word-of-mouth sheik that there is going to be a huge second wave where people rush to go get one and there's an eventual delayed sellout. Once people see how much fun others are having, and how good the games are. All the negativity gets dismissed in two days.

Also this was REALLY funny.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1929680719208440159

WHOOPS GUSYS, WE HAVE MORE SYSTEMS THAN WE REALIZED AND WE NEED TO SELL MORE OF THEM NOW KK.

some people just aren't paying attention.
 
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I'm not certain what the "negativity" is in this general discussion, but again, Wii U and 3DS also sold out. And to be clear, the Switch 2 not selling out doesn't mean it "flopped" either.

Nothing is really settled until the generation ends, based upon historical context. Sony's PS3 was abysmal at launch and ended up being the best seller of the generation. Nintendo has blown market dominance before.

It's more high pricing, few new titles, a media blackout embargo issued by Nintendo, and a lot of general anxiety about the world as it is (at least for the USA folks) makes for a bear market entrance.

Which to be further fair, the Wii and DS dominated in the years after 2008 recession. But they also focused on innovation and cost consciousness.

If that's all perceived as negativity, I think anyone saying as much is just wanting to their new toy and disregard anything that gets in their way. To which I say, enjoy, but the early adopter is rarely rewarded, in both good or bad console releases.
 
TheKbob said:
I'm not certain what the "negativity" is in this general discussion, but again, Wii U and 3DS also sold out. And to be clear, the Switch 2 not selling out doesn't mean it "flopped" either.

Nothing is really settled until the generation ends, based upon historical context. Sony's PS3 was abysmal at launch and ended up being the best seller of the generation. Nintendo has blown market dominance before.

It's more high pricing, few new titles, a media blackout embargo issued by Nintendo, and a lot of general anxiety about the world as it is (at least for the USA folks) makes for a bear market entrance.

Which to be further fair, the Wii and DS dominated in the years after 2008 recession. But they also focused on innovation and cost consciousness.

If that's all perceived as negativity, I think anyone saying as much is just wanting to their new toy and disregard anything that gets in their way. To which I say, enjoy, but the early adopter is rarely rewarded, in both good or bad console releases.
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No criticism from me, man. I think there is negativity out there from people saying the system is going to "flop" without having ever put hands on it. There's blind optimism, too: people who are sure it's going to be *amazing* without having lived with it for a month. Flop is subjective, of course.

I don't think the reviews from random people online on either extreme are going to sway me either way, honestly. Should I buy it on Thursday morning? Unclear. Will I? Depends if there's stock when I stroll into Target. I'm surely not getting up early for it. Fate will decide.
 
I want one, no lie, I just didn't think the value is there, at least not yet.

I suppose there's also the disconnect of what Nintendo sees as a flop and what the customers might see.

The Wii was one of Nintendo's best success stories, I bought in early, but eventually sold it. The Wii is one of my least favorite Nintendo systems (even though I still have one technically in my Wii U), and from a games perspective, I'd say has weak library, so it'd be a flop for me probably.

I got bills to pay. And once done with those, I'm likely to save up for a new GPU for The Witcher 4.

Nintendo charging for Switch 2 upgrades was the real downer of a moment. Totally unnecessary gouging. Sigh.
 
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I want one, no lie, I just didn't think the value is there, at least not yet.

I suppose there's also the disconnect of what Nintendo sees as a flop and what the customers might see.

The Wii was one of Nintendo's best success stories, I bought in early, but eventually sold it. The Wii is one of my least favorite Nintendo systems (even though I still have one technically in my Wii U), and from a games perspective, I'd say has weak library, so it'd be a flop for me probably.

I got bills to pay. And once done with those, I'm likely to save up for a new GPU for The Witcher 4.

Nintendo charging for Switch 2 upgrades was the real downer of a moment. Totally unnecessary gouging. Sigh.
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Challenging to thumbs up. I'm not thumbing up your bills or your disapproval of the Wii library :)

Totally agree that for a company the size of Nintendo, flop is totally subjective. I also agree that the Switch 2 upgrades not being free (at least for Nintendo pay-to-play-online passes) also feels like gouging, made more evident by the fact that some will upgrade/run on 2 for free? C'mon now.

When it comes to the Wii's game library as weak, I was going to say you're probably right but then I started reminiscing: Wii Sports, Resort, Link's Crossbow Training, Raving Rabbids, NSMB, Metroid Prime, Punch Out, Twilight Princess.... I liked Super Paper Mario, but I didn't love it. There were other fun games on the platform that wouldn't make a short list and fun non-platform exclusives (e.g., rock band) but they weren't exclusives. So yeah, at first I thought I would agree but my Wii list is a pretty great list of unique games that weren't available anywhere else.
 
I feel like times have kind of changed for the worse when it comes to the media and information. It's not suprising after all the panning and negativity for the Switch that Nintendo would opt for a different path. LIke what sold me on the Switch wasn't the reviews or other BS... it was BotW being shown and then the functionality of the switch as more than a console or handheld which Nintendo themselves demonstrated. I was down for the hybrid system and I was hyped to play BotW to the point that I avoided reviews and things because I wanted to experience it for myself.

This launch is kind of a fresh take on how to launch a console. I'm not saying Mario Kart World is BOTW, but I'm starting to feel a similar kind of hype for it. That the experience is going to be something special. Not because it's another MK game but because it changes and elevates the experience into some new fresh directions. Hopefully it all works out.

I'm not jealous of those of you with preorders... but I do wish I could be there with you on day one playing MKW and getting to experience it without all the internet noise.
 
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It’s funny how people see things. I didn’t want an evolution in the next switch. I just wanted a more powerful switch. Here it is.

Do I wish it was $349 and games stayed at $60? Sure but I don’t fault them for raising prices. fucking fast food meals are $12.

Full Disclosure: my kids own 4 shares of Nintendo Stock. 😂
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The argument of the video was that what people think they want and what they actually want are the two sides of Nintendo.

Whenever they catered to the "I want a more powerful system" they "lost" overall.

When they went left while others went right, they "won" their respective sales races.

As for upgrade costs, it was definitely on Sony's system as the first, IIRC, but I remember Square being the first big kerfuffle regarding the FF7R and that being a nightmare to figure out. Ghosts of Tsushima, too.

Nintendo doesn't seem to lead in price gouging, but they're quick to follow!

I think Microsoft doesn't, but that's likely from a place of market weakness. And on PC? Good way to get your face shot off proverbially. PC folk don't take kindly in paying to a premium utilize their own hardware they bought.

Edit: I can't wait for the digital foundry reviews. See how much that $10 gets you in BotW...
 
Plenty of articles state that fast fusion is going to be 60 FPS four-player split screen. It's absolutely inexcusable if Mario Kart World is yet again 30 FPS four players split screen.
 
Most of the complaining is simply people who can't afford to buy one right now. It's stupid. I can't afford one right now either. had a couple major expenses the last two months. But all the negativity over pricing and availability is just plain stupid. and a cover-up for personal shortcomings.
It's okay to just not buy the thing. You'll live until July.

The thing people are struggling with most is today's 'instant gratification' society they've cornered themselves into, from social media.
walletandgromice said:
I don't think the reviews from random people online on either extreme are going to sway me either way, honestly. Should I buy it on Thursday morning? Unclear. Will I? Depends if there's stock when I stroll into Target. I'm surely not getting up early for it. Fate will decide.
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I think there's a lot more individuals like you out there than people in any comments section realize.
 
I hesitate to take pricing concerns as a "you're too poor" remark.

First, that's a bad look and just insulting folks. It's like, not good for anyone and doesn't add to the discussion. We're talking about a mass consumption toy, not a Bugatti.

Also, Microsoft and Sony literally made those arguments (Xbone, PS3 respectively) and ate crow over it.

Second, it just glosses over any real discussion about pricing since it makes it a personal problem instead of an actual issue. Not like corporations haven't trained us to think that way for decades.

But again, it's entrainment media. Not the (literal) end of the world. But enshittification is real and I don't think Nintendo is above it simply because they're publicly traded and held to the same profit driven thinking as the rest of the industry. And since they're run by bean counters now?

Buckle up, buds. 'Cause being a CAG in these parts 'bout to get real tough, I reckon.
 
The PS5 and Xbox Series are almost 5 years old and their prices have gone UP, not down. PC gamers have been dealing with ridiculous prices for parts since the pandemic. If Nintendo didn't charge $80 for their new flagship game, someone else was gonna do it within the next year (GTA6 at the latest)

Plus just by nature of posting here, many of us got the system for cheaper from flips and/or ridiculous trade deals ($455 credit for my launch Series X for example), so the price "issue" is heavily mitigated

Stuff is expensive now, it's just how it is. The fact that the only complaints I ever see are about the price (nonissue for me personally), or the occasional troglodyte bemoaning a tablet-sized portable's inability to match a more expensive home console in performance, tells me the thing is probably gonna be pretty good
 
Consumers: Wind Waker and Twilight Princess HD on Switch plz, we'll even pay $60 bux again!!

Nintendo: Upgrade packs for shit you've played to death already on Switch for $10?

It's not about being too poor, it's just Nintendo being lazy and grubby. Mario Kart is the only thing the launch has going for it and who knows if the new direction it's being taken in is even a good idea. Like with Mario Golf on Switch it sounded like running around on the course chasing your ball could be a fun mode but it turned out to be one of the laziest and least satisfying entries in the Mario Golf series, and a lot of Nintendo's titles have gone down in quality in the Switch era as well, not just the Mario sports line. Will roaming around on a go kart finding a new course be a tight, fun adventure like Diddy Kong Racing or will it be hot garbage like Mario Golf was?

The launch lineup is pretty pathetic considering how dead the Switch has been for the past few years save from a few good choices in ports, they've had plenty of time and profits to work with to make the launch way more appealing with first party offerings than it is. With how long ago Odyssey released they could have at least had a new 3D Mario or even a half assed 2D Mario Maker 3 or some shit, but no, there's no there there.

I would like Nintendo to succeed so I can play some good first party Nintendo games at some point, at all, or even some choice ports like Paper Mario, but man has it felt like a long time that has been the case on any level.
 
TheKbob said:
I'm not certain what the "negativity" is in this general discussion, but again, Wii U and 3DS also sold out. And to be clear, the Switch 2 not selling out doesn't mean it "flopped" either.

Nothing is really settled until the generation ends, based upon historical context. Sony's PS3 was abysmal at launch and ended up being the best seller of the generation. Nintendo has blown market dominance before.

It's more high pricing, few new titles, a media blackout embargo issued by Nintendo, and a lot of general anxiety about the world as it is (at least for the USA folks) makes for a bear market entrance.

Which to be further fair, the Wii and DS dominated in the years after 2008 recession. But they also focused on innovation and cost consciousness.

If that's all perceived as negativity, I think anyone saying as much is just wanting to their new toy and disregard anything that gets in their way. To which I say, enjoy, but the early adopter is rarely rewarded, in both good or bad console releases.
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Plus the wii had crazy good FREE stuff in the box with wii sports.

It was something basic enough for anyone to enjoy. Didn't cost you anything besides maybe more controllers for multiplayer in stuff besides bowling or golf.

My family still plays bowling on Thanksgiving when everyone gets together. It's a shame it can't have more than 4 something players at a time too. They should totally port it with a 2 lane or more option, teams and such. Between my sisters family and her grandchildren that 12 right there. (Huge age gap between her and me)


It's a shame that they don't have anything with the switch 2 and couldn't even be bothered to include mariokart for free in a default launch bundle.
 
"Totally agree that for a company the size of Nintendo, flop is totally subjective."

Additionally what's considered successful or not isn't based on financial success but whatever heads and shareholders feel. Which is dumb.
 
What people miss about the pricing is Mario Kart is an $80 game with a third as many the tracks as the current Mario Kart, and a whole megaton of characters and costumes no one asked for. I get that people rightfully hate microtransactions and GaS, but imagine if all these costumes and cosmetics and barely animated obscure playable characters were separate purchases instead of included in the main game, and instead we just got more tracks. They might even be able to charge $10-20 less for the game with whales and dummies buying up microtransactions and subsidizing the game for the rest of us. I mean, the game will almost certainly get DLC anyway so let’s not kid ourselves about this $80 game being a complete experience anyway.

And btw Mario Kart 8 was STILL in the monthly top 20 games sold last month, and it sold another 6 million copies this past year alone. There are so so many people that for them, MK8 is a fairly new experience, despite it being almost a decade old. That’s millions of people who don’t really want or need a new Mario Kart. I dunno, I get the feeling World is going to have a very polarized reception. No one asked for open world kart racing. No one wanted to drive on completely straight roads to get to 1 lap GP races. People want multiplayer MK mayhem, which is there, but again… 32 tracks. MK8 has almost 100, if you count the DLC that comes free with the fancy tier Nintendo Online subscription. I just don’t see how this is a system seller. Even the DK Bananza game is giving very Luigi’s Mansion and New Mario Bros Wii U vibes… like, here is a solid, fun but incredibly simple mascot game at launch while you wait a few years for the next 3D Mario.

And besides those two games…. Crickets. So strange that they didn’t drop another Direct this week to tease some more games for the rest of the year.

The value just isn’t there imo and after the Nintendo hardcore buy up a few million units and sales slow down that will become evident imo. Really bad time right now to launch a console for this much money from a brand that has been historically budget-friendly and lower-priced.
 
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What people miss about the pricing is Mario Kart is an $80 game with a third as many the tracks as the current Mario Kart, and a whole megaton of characters and costumes no one asked for. I get that people rightfully hate microtransactions and GaS, but imagine if all these costumes and cosmetics and barely animated obscure playable characters were separate purchases instead of included in the main game, and instead we just got more tracks. They might even be able to charge $10-20 less for the game with whales and dummies buying up microtransactions and subsidizing the game for the rest of us. I mean, the game will almost certainly get DLC anyway so let’s not kid ourselves about this $80 game being a complete experience anyway.

And btw Mario Kart 8 was STILL in the monthly top 20 games sold last month, and it sold another 6 million copies this past year alone. There are so so many people that for them, MK8 is a fairly new experience, despite it being almost a decade old. That’s millions of people who don’t really want or need a new Mario Kart. I dunno, I get the feeling World is going to have a very polarized reception. No one asked for open world kart racing. No one wanted to drive on completely straight roads to get to 1 lap GP races. People want multiplayer MK mayhem, which is there, but again… 32 tracks. MK8 has almost 100, if you count the DLC that comes free with the fancy tier Nintendo Online subscription. I just don’t see how this is a system seller. Even the DK Bananza game is giving very Luigi’s Mansion and New Mario Bros Wii U vibes… like, here is a solid, fun but incredibly simple mascot game at launch while you wait a few years for the next 3D Mario.

And besides those two games…. Crickets. So strange that they didn’t drop another Direct this week to tease some more games for the rest of the year.

The value just isn’t there imo and after the Nintendo hardcore buy up a few million units and sales slow down that will become evident imo. Really bad time right now to launch a console for this much money from a brand that has been historically budget-friendly and lower-priced.
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MK world is what’s driving a day one purchase for me. And I suspect for a lot of people. On a per hour basis, mk is the best value for the money.
 
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Gonna wait a tick. been burned way too many times from consoles made in the first production run. Also need to cut down a bit of my switch backlog before moving on. Also MK has never really done it for me. Now a new Zelda drops? I'm in.
 
Only cases where you wouldn't be burned from earlier adopter is 3ds and wii since the former had the exclusive stuff for ambassador program and the wii had gc bc which is later removed.
 
Launch lineup is not great. As far as price, again I would argue that if the device sells out in the next week, the price is not too high, at least at this time. If we get to october and these things are sitting on shelves unsold like the 3DS they will have to drop the price.

As far as the $80 game I don’t like it either. But nintendo (and the entire industry) is trying to reset gamers expectations with regards to price. Everyone just understands at this point $70 is the price of new AAA games. That is what they are trying to accomplish at the $80 price. I don’t like it. I didn’t like the jump to $70. But that’s what publishers and platform holders are trying to get to.
 
Went by Walmart last night and they had the 512GB Onn Express cards on the shelf peg. I was really tempted to just get one so I'd be prepped for whenever the consoles show up for regular consumers... but was able to resist.

Side note, the Marvel vs Capcom Fighting Collection dropped to $25 at most retailers for anyone that was wanting a physical copy. I think when I looked yesterday Amazon sold out but they had them still at BB and I noticed in store at walmart that they had the price drop on the sticker.
 
Just a friendly reminder that new toys aren't with dying for, unfortunately, literally.

When I worked at GameStop in the PS3/Wii launch season, people were mugged in parking lots and two GameStop employees died in a robbery (asphyxiation from their bindings).

What with scalper culture being real weird right now, there may be some huffy folks trying to pull something and potentially throwing a fit if they don't get there way.

Most line waiters are cool folks, watching for bathroom breaks or drinks. But troublemakers exist, so be careful.

Hopefully y'all get to enjoy a hardware launch as an event itself. Maybe meet some nice folks and get some new MKW rivals (are their friend ghosts racers you can race against?).
 
I'll wait till there are more my type of games for the console which are platformers, niche games, visual novels, good RPGs, and a more killer app. I'm guessing sometime year 2 or 3. I stupidly bought the new 3DS XL on launch (wanted the Majora's Mask one but one guy one guy one back on me in the line threw the most massive hissy fit it was embarrassing and I said whatever) and the PS5 at launch (played like 1 actual PS5 game at launch Demon Souls and just worked through my PS4 library). Console launches generally suck badly on games, and this is no exception IMHO. A racing game cannot hold me for very long and I would just be doing like the PS5 and going through my Switch catalogue hopefully with better performance. I do hope everyone who gets it enjoys it, but I need more of my type of games first before even considering the thing.
 
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Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour To Require A Few Accessories For 100% Completion

Earlier today, Nintendo shared an overview trailer for Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour in Japan. Now we have a couple more details to share about the game. According to the game’s official web…
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  • USB Camera – a camera is needed to play 1 minigame
  • A controller with GL/GR buttons (Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller or Joy-Con 2 Charging Grip) – a controller with GL/GR buttons is required to play 1 minigame
  • 4K-supported TV or monitor – a TV with 4K support is required to play 1 minigame and 1 tech demo
 
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