[quote name='hobbie8046']What you fail to realize is I am not a Republican. I have been a registered Independent for 6 years. I am a Libertarian that tends to vote Republican in a clothespin fashion.[/quote]
Blah, blah duck blah blah.
It is not as if styling yourself as merely conservative or libertarian changes anything I wrote.
I'd like to see you bring some substance to the discussion.
Likewise. It isn't as if I don't notice you fail to respond to the real meat in my reply.
"BS" is not substance, it's an opinion. I provided logic and reason to support my claim. You did not.
You did not provide anything backing up your assertion that "quality" would go down, it isn't worth engaging seriously.
The Hippocratic Oath may say nothing about making money, but that is what capitalism is all about. Many people become doctors because it is an extremely well paid position. Sure it'd be nice to believe that helping people is the main driving point behind most medical school candidates, but that is simply not true.
No one is saying they can't make money, hell no one is saying they can't make quite a lot of money but if a doctor is in it
purely to make as much money as possible to the exclusion of everything else then they should have went into finance or something.
If you think that less people won't want to be doctors when their profits are slashed you are delusional.
Other countries with different systems still have doctors you know.
That said, you didn't address my question about education loans, so I will ask again; what does banning all private education loans have to do with healthcare? Why is that in this bill?
One thing at a time please.
In response to your claim that this bill is "miles away..." from anything the Republicans have proposed...have you even read the multitude of GOP proposals over the past year?
Yes.
Many Republicans are pushing for tort reform, yes, but many are pushing for other things.
Not really, it is overwhelmingly tort reform. Not that it matters, they wouldn't vote for anything anyway.
The Republicans have proposed several plans that eliminate the pre-existing condition issue
Oh? "A House Republican health-care bill wouldn't seek to prevent health-insurance companies from denying sick people insurance, Minority Leader John Boehner said Monday." [Wall Street Journal, "GOP Health Bill Gives Insurers More Leeway," 11/2/09]
I heard something or other about their plan for people with pre-existing conditions, it involved incredibly limited and basically worthless high risk pools that few people could actually afford.
This is an issue hand waving by the GOP wouldn't fix.
make it so insurance companies can sell across state lines (you increase "choice and competition" and prices will drop)
That isn't what selling across state lines would do.
prevent insurance companies from dropping plans unless the customer commits a form of fraud, encourage health savings accounts (you know, so you can pay for your own damn insurance, not me), and even raise the age limit for dependents to 25. You know what else their proposals do (or rather don't do)? None of them expand the IRS. None of them include vote purchases. None of them cut Medicare. None of them increase taxes.
The last GOP healthcare plan the CBO actually scored expanded coverage to something like 3 million people, not even enough to cover population growth.
Again it is not like the GOP would vote for anything anyway, once the CBO took a dump on their "plan" they gleefully went back to not even pretending they would support anything.
I'd like to see the case against tort reform. If you eliminate obviously frivolous lawsuits then doctors can dramatically lower their own insurance costs. You lower their overhead and prices will go down. It's simple mathematics and logic.
It might take you a while but try reading this thread.
If you put Bob on ignore it won't take that long.
in' candyland, hombre.