[quote name='Knoell']Do you think banning salt will save lives? If not why?[/QUOTE]
Salt is actually in almost everything we eat. No one is trying to undo thousands of years of culinary history or anything close to pushing the limits of absurdity as you and bob do.
How about banning driving? I mean if it saves 33,800 people's lives then why are we still driving around out of our own convenience. Why don't we have a government program in which the government safely transports us everywhere. Oh yeah Public Transportation :lol:
The way our cities and suburbs were designed, banning driving is literally an impossibility as most people will die. Driving has become less a luxury and more a necessity.
I shouldn't need to highlight the enormous benefits of public transportation, but needless to say, there are huge attacks on it everywhere and most of the attacks aren't coming from "smug forum dwellers."
I am not begging either, I am simply pointing out the ridiculousness of you and your fellow forum dwellers that so smugly think you are right because you "say" so. All dissenting statistics, references, quotes, posts, etc are either considered stupid or from unreliable sources. Every Single Time.
Do you know why think tanks were created? It's because facts have a liberal bias. Dissent is fine, but not when it's born out of ignorance. You're conflating any dissent as being worthy of taken seriously. Well I have a hint for you: it isn't.
Really? People dieing in the streets again? And what does this bill do again?
Fewer people
will be dying on the streets. This is quantifiable.
Lower costs? Nope.
Develop new medical procedures to save lives? Nope.
Force people to give money to what you yourselves called corrupt insurance companies? Yep
Force the government to give money to what you yourselves called corrupt insurance companies for people who cannot afford it? Yep.
Most of this will be addressed in the next part, but those new medical procedures you're talking about? They're funded by public dollars at teaching hospitals.
So sure people who need insurance getting insurance will save lives, but that doesn't solve any of the underlying issues of the health care problem. It is the same solution that democrats put forward for every problem "well why doesn't the government just foot the bill, its not like we can't"
Shit costs money and the Republicans were trolling like mother
ers while whipping up people about socialism, cummunism, and death panels. No good solutions you say? Well no shit. What do you expect when people are complaining about keeping government out of medicare and pushing a 20 year old Republican healthcare plan with cues from the Heritage Foundation?
This particular part isn't directed solely at you, but I'm reminded of a conversation two nights ago(an attempted one anyways 'cause I was drunk and he was talking about Ron Paul, income inequality, Bill Gates myth, 1%-.01%, etc) I was having with a friend about him being pissed at a woman that had 2 carts of food with 4 bags of doritos that rang up to about $8. Which is really intesting because he started off talking about being at the market and I was hoping he wasn't going to bust out the "welfare queen" trope, MAH TAXES, and how he was more entitled(lolz) to cheaper gorceries. Me and another friend had to explain how low income needs to be to qualify for assistance, the low amounts that assistance usually is, the lifestyle differences between him(I'm sure he makes close to $200k a year) and a person on assistance that probably makes less than $50k the entire household. He said I was squabbling about technicalites when talking about scale.
All this is coming from a guy whose parents are so loaded that they're Taiwanese living in Brazil that had/have servants living in a 3000 sq ft luxury condo, sent him to an international school, paid for all of his college expenses which total to about $500k in today's money, take 6 month long furloughs, racked up $3 million in healthcare due to having lukemia while paying $2k a month for continuing treatment, yet he doesn't think he's privileged because Romney makes $20 million a year and me and my family would be literally destitute if I had lukemia.
On the otherhand, he thinks that charitable deductions are bullshit and should be made after all taxes are paid because that's money that should be going to schools, roads, hospitals, etc. I was too drunk to tell him that those things are the exact opposite of what Paul stands for, so I can't hate on my friend too much.
