Obama to beef up Mexican border security

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Good (and necessary) move and probably the first thing he's done that some of the conservatives here will approve of. :D

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/24/obama.mexico.policy/


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Obama administration announced a major increase in security funding and agent deployments along the U.S.-Mexico border Tuesday.
A police convoy moves in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, last month, across the U.S. border from El Paso, Texas.

A police convoy moves in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, last month, across the U.S. border from El Paso, Texas.

The changes are part of what the White House characterized as a sweeping new federal plan to beef up resources in a region increasingly plagued by drug-related violence.

The administration is trying to help the Mexican government break up drug cartels believed to be responsible for the killing of roughly 6,500 people in Mexico last year, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said.

The plan commits $700 million to bolster Mexican law enforcement and crime prevention efforts. The funds will provide, among other things, five new helicopters to increase mobility for the Mexican army and air force as well as new surveillance aircraft for the Mexican navy.

"Our role is to assist in this battle because we have our own security interests in its success," Napolitano said at the White House.

Border states such as Texas and Arizona are experiencing a notable spike in violence as a result of the accelerating Mexican drug war.

The new federal plan, developed by the departments of Justice and Homeland Security, calls for doubling the number of border security task force teams as well as moving a significant number of other federal agents, equipment and resources to the border. It also involves greater intelligence sharing aimed at cracking down on the flow of money and weapons into Mexico, which helps fuel the drug trade, senior administration officials said.

The plan also will fund enhanced communications technology for Mexican prosecutors, law enforcement, and immigration officials.

On the U.S. side of the border, the goal is to use "prosecutor-led, intelligence-based task forces that bring together all Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security and other relevant law enforcement agencies to disrupt and dismantle the drug cartels through investigation, prosecution, extradition of their leaders and the seizure and forfeiture of their assets," Deputy Attorney General David Ogden said.

"As we've found with other large criminal groups, if you take their money and lock up their leaders, you can loosen their grip on the vast organizations that are used to carry out their criminal activities."

The $700 million allocation, meant to assist what administration officials described as an "anti-smuggling effort," will complement ongoing U.S. aid to Mexico under the Merida initiative, a three-year, $1.4 billion package aimed at helping Mexico fight the drug cartels with law enforcement training, military equipment and improved intelligence cooperation.

To help further strengthen the U.S. side of the border, the administration also plans to triple the number of Department of Homeland Security intelligence analysts dedicated to stopping Mexican-related violence.

It also will increase the number of immigration officials working in Mexico, double the number of "violent criminal alien" teams on the border, strengthen the presence of border canine units and quadruple the number of border liaison officers working with Mexican law enforcement.

It also will make an additional $59 million in federal funds available to support state, local and tribal border law enforcement operations.

At the same time, more agents from the FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives will be deployed to the border region. The agents will be given updated equipment and surveillance technology to help track the movement of cash, drugs and weapons.

"We are discussing more things we can do to address the very real problem of currency and weapons moving into Mexico and at the same time trying to prevent potential border spillover," one senior administration official said.

The announcement comes shortly ahead of planned trips by three Cabinet secretaries to Mexico before President Obama visits there next month. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton goes to Mexico City this week, to be followed next week by Napolitano and Attorney General Eric Holder.

Napolitano and Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg both emphasized the cooperation and "courage" of Mexican President Felipe Calderon during the news conference announcing the policy changes. Calderon has been pushing back against U.S. criticism of drug cartel-related violence lately, arguing that the United States needs to take more responsibility for the recent increase in violence.
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In his speeches and other public remarks, Calderon repeatedly has pointed out that much of the demand for drugs and most of the weapons used by narco-traffickers comes from the United States.

"Mexico believes we are not acknowledging the transitional nature of the problem and the role the U.S. is playing in this," another senior administration official said. "So we are looking at what U.S. law enforcement agencies can do to respond to the Mexican concerns."

Related problems are really spreading through the US, with suburban Atlanta having lots of issues with Mexican drug trade lately.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/19/atlanta.drug.cartels/index.html
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Search: "Detain". Not found. "Arrest". Not found.

The problem is simple, I believe.[/QUOTE]

What do you think the extra law enforcement personnel devoted here and in Mexico will be doing? At least to those involved with the drug cartels.....
 
I always thought the best solution was to plant mines in the Rio Grande river, and put up signs saying "turn back or die" . :)
 
its a start. but its a shame that its taken this long and the violence had to get to this level before weve taken action that people have been clamouring for years.

cant say im keen on throwing mexico 2 billion because their government is inept though...

also, Napolitano is a joke... doing this but freezing ICE, nice mixed message.
 
I say Sherrif Joe sends the inmates from tent city to patrol the boarder to deal with the cartels. Murders or people with parking tickets, it doesn't matter, they are criminals and they should be treated as such!!!

And Sherrif Joe could save money on feeding the prisoners. I think he's feeding them for 30 cents an inmate a day-- let's get that down to 22 cents a day by giving them just enough money to buy and split fresh, home made tortillas in bulk.
 
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This is a stupid move. I'm waiting to see how many progressives are going to support the drug war because the big O wants it to continue.
 
I'm with ram. It's a start.

But I sure hope this isn't somehow the beginnings of some attempt to use manipulated border data to pass anti-gun laws.
 
Put the National Guard on the border. Stop the flow of drugs and people coming in, stop the flow of cash and weapons going out. This is bigger than immigration now, its terrorism.

Designate groups such as MS-13 and the Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations and assassinate their leaders on foreign soil. Those who are apprehended should be sent to Guantanamo Bay, where they will have no access to the outside.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Put the National Guard on the border. Stop the flow of drugs and people coming in, stop the flow of cash and weapons going out. This is bigger than immigration now, its terrorism.

Designate groups such as MS-13 and the Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations and assassinate their leaders on foreign soil. Those who are apprehended should be sent to Guantanamo Bay, where they will have no access to the outside.[/quote]

That didn't work the last time we tried it.

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1. Legalize and regulate all drugs so that addicts can be monitored more closely. (Drop demand. RAND says that works better.)

2. Construct a large ditch parallel to the Rio Grande and fill it with toxic waste. (Force the cartels to use airplanes or boats because of a radioactive cordon.)
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Horrible idea. People will be far too complacent when the Deathclaws come.[/quote]

By god, you have to get over your deathclaw prejudice. Deathclaws have been shown to be docile except when provoked. Their only flaws are their addiction to cigarettes and a lack of pockets. Half of all deathclaw attacks are attributed to deathclaws asking for a cigarette and the person being asked responding with gunfire.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Put the National Guard on the border. Stop the flow of drugs and people coming in, stop the flow of cash and weapons going out. This is bigger than immigration now, its terrorism.

Designate groups such as MS-13 and the Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations and assassinate their leaders on foreign soil. Those who are apprehended should be sent to Guantanamo Bay, where they will have no access to the outside.[/quote]


Something needs to be done. Something permanent.

At any rate, the border should be secured both in and out of the US from the Mexico and Canada. Weapon flow outside the US should be an embarassment as much as anything discussed in border issues in the last ten years.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Something needs to be done. Something permanent.

At any rate, the border should be secured both in and out of the US from the Mexico and Canada. Weapon flow outside the US should be an embarassment as much as anything discussed in border issues in the last ten years.[/quote]

Do you mean weapons flowing out of the US or weapons manufactured and distributed outside of the US?
 
The weapons supposedly flowing out of the US (as mexico claims) is without any factual base.

The only people claiming that Mexican gangs get most of their weapons from the U.S. are the Mexican government and the anti-gun lobby.

We have, however, not been given any real hard data on those claims. The fact is, the data that is available shows that the automatic guns seized in mass, in Mexico, are usually from China, Russia, or totally unmarked (meaning knockoffs from pakistan or India.)

The only guns flowing from America to Mexico are some hand guns. But the fact is, You and I Can't Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own

When those weapons are seized in raids, etc. Mexico has so far as of yet been very willing to give up the serial numbers on those weapons to help trace where they came from. This is, most likely, due to the fact that most of them are from their own supplies, i.e. corruption.
 
^ Well, no fucking shit, sherlock. You think the NRA would admit that weapons are being procured from the US? That's the same kind of "trust me, I'm from the coal industry and I'm here to tell you about clean coal!" Machiavellian approach.

Given the expiry of the assault weapons ban in the US, it's not like we don't have what they want, babydoll.
 
I really don't know what in the hell you are trying to get at. I think you suffered from "glossed over the post" syndrome again.

Our handguns make it to Mexico? Yes. That's provable.

But link me any factual proof or study showing that automatic weapons, along with other military grade artillery currently saturating these cartels is primarily coming from the U.S., especially when most of them are weapons neither you or I can legally buy. Show me the link to the stashes of automatic weapons with serial numbers tracing them back North.

The argument that our lax gun laws our causing a massive flux of Automtic and heavy weapons into Mexico is still largely unfounded. Especially when I can much more easily buy advanced weaponry on the black market there than here, sugarlips.
 
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