Official NCAA Football 2006 Thread

I knew Notre Dame was over-rated before the season started. I mean they don't have a good defense. Their offense is alright but Lou Holtz was wrong in saying it would be the best in the country (he's a little biased anyways). I'll have to look at all the polls later since I haven't seen them yet this week, but I'm sure at least one team is going to get screwed over this year.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']The only problem is, you're taking their current rankings. Take their rankings as of when they played:

USC:
Nebraska #19
Oregon #21
Cal #17
ND #6

Florida:
Tenn #13
LSU #9
Auburn #11
Arkansas #5

Michigan:
ND #2
OSU #1

Florida and USC are a good bit closer now. As their opponent's records confirm. Let me work on finalizing my system to see if it matches what the BCS has said. I think what my system would do is match Ohio State v Florida (or LSU should they lose) in the first game, USC v Michigan in the second. Winners play for the title. I think everyone could be happy with that.[/quote]

That's not really the way i like to look at it. So since Notre Dame was #2 when Michigan beat them, that means that USC's victory over them wasn't as good? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but I don't think that's a very good way of looking at it. I don't have a problem with the USC vs Florida arguement, but as far as I am concerned, Michigan only has 2 quality wins, a close loss, and 8 wins against a bunch of cupcakes and mid majors. I just wanna see USC, the best program in the country the last 5 years, with D'Wayne Jarrett, Steve Smith, and Pete Carroll, against the unanimous #1 overall team, in the championship game. Then again, I guess I could settle for seeing Tim Tebow run all over the Buckeyes as well. But just don't give me OSU vs Michigan again
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Then again, I guess I could settle for seeing Tim Tebow run all over the Buckeyes as well. But just don't give me OSU vs Michigan again[/QUOTE]

Ha! Tim Tebow is garbage. He did absolutely nothing against FSU. That was one of the few positives I was able to get out of that game. All my friends from UF are already counting up the Heismans he's going to win (personally I'm still waiting on Chris Leak and Brock Berlin to win the Heismans my UF friends promised me). Tebow is basically a fullback that occasionally throws the ball. I'm actually glad that he'll be the starter next year as opposed to the pure passer that Leak is. Tebow will never survive a whole season if they expect him to carry the ball 10 times a game against SEC defenses. FSU has a phenomenal linebacking corp and they just ate him up on Saturday. It was beautiful watching Lawrence Timmons lay that big hit on him. Tebow can expect much more of that as the starter next season.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']That's not really the way i like to look at it. So since Notre Dame was #2 when Michigan beat them, that means that USC's victory over them wasn't as good? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but I don't think that's a very good way of looking at it. I don't have a problem with the USC vs Florida arguement, but as far as I am concerned, Michigan only has 2 quality wins, a close loss, and 8 wins against a bunch of cupcakes and mid majors. I just wanna see USC, the best program in the country the last 5 years, with D'Wayne Jarrett, Steve Smith, and Pete Carroll, against the unanimous #1 overall team, in the championship game. Then again, I guess I could settle for seeing Tim Tebow run all over the Buckeyes as well. But just don't give me OSU vs Michigan again[/QUOTE]

That's the problem with preseason polls, and under my system, they would be eliminated.

Tebow isn't all that he's cracked up to be. Auburn and Georgia shut him down, and I don't think Florida is going to be as good with him in there full time. At least we got a head start on our QB situation this year.


And I would say Michigan's win is much better, but for completely different reasons.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Well, a team can be one of the best when you schedule them, but when game time finally comes, they may have hit hard times (see Louisville when they scheduled Miami). You can't punish a team for scheduling the best teams and they suck for that one year.

USC's opponent's records are marginally higher than Florida (.567 opposed to .559). If a team plays a I-AA opponent, I am not counting a win, but am counting a loss.

I've only completed Florida to this point with the previous four years. And I'm thinking of adding the AP poll back in to make it four major factors.[/QUOTE]

I think your system is good in theory, but it fails because of the looking back. No one would go along with that. You have to judge a team by who they play that year, regardless of who/how they played the year before. If you follow your logic to the extreme that means teams would also be rated by their performances from the past 5 years. So, if a team loses they can say, "well, we won this game the past 3 years, so we need to stay on top." It would have to work both ways.
 
[quote name='munch']If you follow your logic to the extreme that means teams would also be rated by their performances from the past 5 years. So, if a team loses they can say, "well, we won this game the past 3 years, so we need to stay on top." It would have to work both ways.[/QUOTE]

No, that's not the issue. Let me work more on it so you can see what I mean. It's the last four years of opponents records, not what the team in question did. It's making a point of scheduling good opponents, and not I-AA patsies. I'm still working on what qualifications it needs to have, too.

You can't penalize a team like Georgia for scheduling a Colorado in 2001 when they won the Big XII and them coming in the laughing stock of the western half of the US. But I guarantee it would have happened had we won out.

'Oh, but they played Colorado and barely won. They don't deserve it.'

You schedule teams five years in advance. Contracts and availability make it very hard to get out of these home and home series. Colorado won the Big XII North 3 of 4 years. That's the team we were expecting to play. Not the Dan Hawkins' fun bunch (who we absolutely destroyed the year before when Boise State came to town thinking they were the shit).
 
[quote name='munch']And it appears that Mike Shula is no longer the coach at the University of Alabama:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2677110

Auburn fans everywhere are crying.[/QUOTE]

I've been watching this closely all day. The two biggest rumored replacements are Nick Saban and Spurrier.. I doubt either of them will leave their respective teams, but I can't imagine Spurrier being given the job due to the hatred people in this state have for him.

Alabama needs to understand that they can't throw money at a problem, and that Bear Bryant is dead. Alabama will likely never return to its throne with the way the game is today. Alabama doesn't come out of probation until Feb 07, and the program had potential to get some steam. Shula had gotten a few verbal agreements already from Alabama and south Florida.
 
I hope UCLA beats USC...I want my OSU/UM rematch ;)

What about Hawaii though...ranked 25 actually. Colt Brennan has 51...yes...FIFTY ONE TD passes vs 9 INT's. I think the record might be 56 or so...that is just amazing though. I know they are a pass happy offense, but stll damn good.
 
On the USC/Florida issue, take this into consideration:

USC's non-conference schedule - Nebraska (9-3), Arkansas (10-2) and Notre Dame (10-2). Florida? So Miss (8-4), UCF (4-8), and Western Carolina (2-9...in I-AA). I think that's a pretty clear-cut advantage for USC.

And I've changed my mind: I cannot support a rematch. Because if Michigan wins, then I will want a third game, and it's not going to happen. I think USC and OSU will provide a very entertaining game, as much as I don't care for either school.
 
Alabama is not the dream job everyone makes it out to be. They have been relevent 1 time since the mid 90's, and that was half way through last season when they were still undefeated. Give the job to the guy from Tulsa, Steve Cragthorpe, I think his name is. Or someone black, that would make Al Sharpton happy.
 
Definetly not just you.

I'm nearing completion on my playoff. The only thing that troubles me is if fans would want to go to two games, possibly cross-country?
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Is it just me or does Lou Holtz sound like he is talking with a mouth full of gravy every time he speaks on ESPN?[/QUOTE]

Not only that, but he really doesn't know what he's talking about. I swear, commentators of TV get worse and worse.

And has anyone else boycotted Gameday? There program is just a pimping of whatever game is going to be on ABC that night. No longer do they go to the 'best game' in the country, but to wherever Kirk Herbstreit has to be. fuck Gameday.
 
It's done...your National Playoff system (ALL RATINGS CURRENT 12/1)

My criteria were as follows:

-Keep the number of additional games teams played to a minimum. I also did not want to extend the season. Both of these are factors to get it approved. Under this system, there are ZERO additional physical games played, and only TWO teams play ONE additional game.
-I wanted to emphasize strength of schedule and quality opponents. By adding in opponent's records as a qualifier, and a bonus point system, this looks to be achieved. Since all teams could not eliminate I-AA opponents, I decided not to discriminate.
-In this system, major conference winners are NOT guaranteed a (current BCS) major bowl. Just because you win the Pac-10 doesn't mean you get a bowl. Have a cookie instead. There are no limitations on the number of teams that can qualify from a conference. Just schedule well, play well, and you'll get paid well.
-Blowing out people does not count. That's what the polls are for.

That's most of the major points, here's how it breaks down:

AP Poll % - number of points received divided by maximum points awarded. IE, the #1 AP team would have a score of 1.00

Harris Poll % - value is determined as above

Coaches Poll % - value is determined as above

SOS % - this one is more complicated. Take opponent's record and divide to determine the first percentage. Then, divide that number by the best opponent's record in I-A (this would currently be South Carolina at .641). That is your number. IE OSU opponent's are 73-59, for a % of .553. .553/.641 is .86

Quality Component #1 - You get bonus points for beating Top 25 ranked opponents. Once the system is established, it will be determined by the system itself. Until then, I am using the AP Poll. You get .025 points for beating a ranked opponent on the road, .015 at home, and .010 at a neutral site
IE- OSU beat two ranked opponents on the road, two at home = .08 points awarded.We are using rankings as of the game played

Quality Component #2 - We are using the exact same system as above, except we are using CURRENT RANKINGS. This means the bonus points in the second component will be fluid, possibly changing every week.

Add everything together and divide by 4, and you have your playoff rankings.

What would they be now, you say?

BCS:
OSU 1.00
USC .946
Michigan .921
Florida .890
LSU .810
Louisville .762
Wisconsin .710
Boise State .674
Arkansas .662
Notre Dame .626
Auburn .618
Oklahoma .551

Now, only OSU and USC would play for the title. Also, Wisconsin would be left out because only two teams per conference would qualify.

My playoff system:
OSU .996
USC .993
Michigan .941
Florida .924
LSU .836
Louisville .811
Wisconsin .754
Arkansas .725
Oklahoma .690
Boise State .683
Auburn .681
Notre Dame .667

Now, under my system, this is how the playoff would take place: Because we are focusing on a minimal amount of extra games for our student-athletes (because the NCAA cares for them so much), the top four teams would participate in a three game playoff. The next four teams would participate in the other two major bowls. These would be on a rotating basis, just like it is now. The site that hosted the #1 v #4 matchup would also host the title game. The bowl considerations (SEC-Sugar; Fiesta-Big XII; Rose-Big X, Pac-10; ACC-Orange) and second considerations (bowl played latest gets first choice, etc) remains.

The matchups (based on this year's bowl rotation, and if Oklahoma and Florida win)

Fiesta Bowl: #1 OSU v #4 Florida
Rose Bowl: #2 USC v #3 Michigan
Sugar Bowl: #5 LSU v #8 Oklahoma
Orange Bowl: #6 Louisville v #7 Wisconsin

National Championship Game: OSU/Florida winner v USC/Michigan winner the following week. (Florida could jump above Michigan if they win, I don't know yet)

Note my top seven is exactly the same, so I must not be too far in left field.

I've chosen my requirements, so you're not likely to change them. I welcome any comments though. I'm thinking of making strength of schedule count double, but I'm not sure yet.
 
the ucla - usc game has been great so far. ucla's qb is running a little too freely, usc needs to put a big hit on him.

edit; and there it was.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']What a stupid move by Leak.

How much longer before Ohio State/Michigan is a lock for the title game?[/quote]

However long it takes Arkansas to handle Florida, or atleast make them look weak.
 
Chris Leak sucks, and Tim Tebow isn't much better. The worst use of timeouts I've ever seen. I thought you were supposed to make improvements after halftime.

EDIT: Just as I say that, the Gators special teams take care of business.
 
[quote name='gofishn']What a moron, UF is THE LUCKIEST TEAM in the NCAA this year.[/QUOTE]

yay :) and we just made a touchdown lucky!!!
 
At least I can take comfort in knowing that if UF does indeed make it to the National Championship game, Ohio State will SMOKE them.
 
[quote name='gofishn']At least I can take comfort in knowing that if UF does indeed make it to the National Championship game, Ohio State will SMOKE them.[/quote]

Spoken like a true FSU fan. ;)
 
[quote name='Tyga24']Spoken like a true FSU fan. ;)[/QUOTE]

Put it this way. If they somehow win the NC, I'll have to turn off my cell phone because I'll have so many people calling me to gloat. I have way too many friends at UF and one thing they love doing is bragging.
 
wow, this game is crazy! Before today if someone would've told me that USC-UCLA would end up being 13-9 with UCLA winning, and the SEC championship game combining for more than 60 points (so far) I wouldn't have believed it.
 
[quote name='munch']Hands down, no questions asked, the University of Florida goes to the National Championship game.[/quote]

QFT; of course Auburn could've made it a little easier :)
 
[quote name='Tyga24']QFT; of course Auburn could've made it a little easier :)[/QUOTE]

I'm glad they didn't! And for the record, it was a fumble. :)
 
[quote name='munch']I'm glad they didn't! And for the record, it was a fumble. :)[/quote]
Let's hope that isn't the factor between the Gators playing for the title over Michigan. Hopefully, the SEC will decide to go against the BCS if Florida is left out and after the way Auburn was shafted a few years ago.
 
Crazy day...the Rutgers-WVU game is even unexpected for me seeing as its in double OT...I didnt know if Rutgers had this in them or not, obviously they do.

I don't have a preference of who I think should be in the title game. It seems like Michigan is the better team but like I said it doesn't matter to me, I just want to see the best game possible.
 
yup it is a crazy day. I think the is the most college football ive seen in years. First the USC-UCLA, then florida and arkansas and now rutgers and wvu
 
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