Oh Boo Hoo Losers; Fox News Ratings Up 14% Year to Year

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Wait, I thought they were losing viewers in droves? You mean the kooks on this board.... were wrong?

***GASP*** Say it isn't so!

Greta' great for Fox News in June


NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - "On the Record With Greta Van Susteren" caught fire this month, with the show's focus on the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in the Caribbean nation of Aruba leading it to second place in the ratings behind fellow Fox News Channel show "The O'Reilly Factor."

Van Susteren's show had its highest-viewed month of the year in June, according to data released Tuesday by Nielsen Media Research. It averaged 1.8 million viewers for the month, up 45% from year-ago levels. That gave it a slight edge on "Hannity & Colmes," its lead-in, which averaged 1.8 million viewers during the month. The cable news leader remains "The O'Reilly Factor," which averaged 2.2 million viewers in June.

"Hannity & Colmes" and "The O'Reilly Factor" were up in total viewers during the month but fell in the adults 25-54 demographic.

Fox News remained on top of the ratings by a wide margin in the second quarter, according to data also released Tuesday. Fox News averaged 1.5 million viewers in the quarter in primetime, up 14% compared with a year ago. CNN's viewership dropped 13% in primetime to 721,000, and MSNBC fell 4% to 322,000 as the network was passed in primetime viewership by the resurgent Headline News, which grew 63% in primetime to 322,000.
Link to the extremely biased Netscape.com, you know, CNN's online sister company?
 
Frankly I rather watch Fox news than CNN. I mostly don't watch anything because it's all BS. I like Countdown on MSNBS, and Sheppard Smith on Fox News. CNN sucks, can't say that enough.

I watch New Egland Cable News the most, they are much less biased tolds everything.
 
Its unfortunate that news channels are driven by ratings and not by the desire to report important news in an unbiased format.

Too bad its all about the money. I'm not just talking about Fox, either.

CNN's around the clock coverage of the latest celebrity trials ain't doing the general public any favors.

I think the Daily Show is still the best 30 minute "news program" on TV.
 
Ah kitten killer, you can always be counted on to provide levity to every post. I welcome your usual one sentence rebuttal!

Now, go find me where I keep bitching about liberal media. I await the outcome of your search!

[quote name='CheapyD']Its unfortunate that news channels are driven by ratings and not by the desire to report important news in an unbiased format.

Too bad its all about the money. I'm not just talking about Fox, either.[/QUOTE]

Now that's something I can agree with. Understand the point of this post wasn't to toot Fox's horn but as a slap in the face to a fallacy posted last week that they're losing viewership in droves, which of course every whack job on this site was enthusiastic about.

I'd love it if CNN, FOX, MSNBC did hour long in depth stories for 3 hours a night giving us 15-45 topics being covered in great detail instead of talking heads spouting off talking points, reporters standing in front of court houses, hotels or other pointless places etc. Unfortunately having teams of 15 producers, reporters and camera men producing just ONE one hour segment a month is cost prohibitive; especially if you would need dozens of teams to do in depth news on a regular basis.

It's far too cheap to pay O'Reilly, Hannity & Colmes, Larry King, Chris Matthews et al to have the same 10 experts and same 20 lawmakers on (Unpaid.) ad nauseum. Journalism as a function on television is dead.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Its unfortunate that news channels are driven by ratings and not by the desire to report important news in an unbiased format.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that stopped around the time of 'Nam.
 
From what I heard last Van Sustren's ratings for last week or when she was in Aruba BEAT O'Reilly's.
Also funny news if it's true here but I heard the NYC HQ of Fox News is infested with Cockroaches. SURPRISE, SURPRISE! But seriously, here's the word. Supposedly illegal insecticides or pesticides were used to try to get rid of them(yeah big surprise considering it's Fox) and some of Fox's people got sick and sued even. Oh and here's another interesting detail about it...they STILL didn't get rid of the roaches!
 
Good examples of basic things in American life most people should know but are oblivious to and TV news could correct.

1. There is a SSI account somewhere with your name on it where your money goes.
2. What baseline budgeting is and how the government defines "cuts" for sound bites.
3. Explaining that 15-20% waste (Government size and administration.) and/or fraud in entitlement spending is equal to or greater than the entire defense budget.
4. Total cost of employment for jobs. Including the employers matching SSI, workers compensation insurance, health and retirement benefits. I tire of hearing "I just make $36k." when matching SSI and insurance benefits put your package closer to $50k if you were self employed.
5. Why 40%+ of public school money is spent in administration as opposed to on teachers, buildings, books, computers and student activites like sports, art, music or theater.

That's a few of the basics that if covered like this missing twit in Aruba we'd have a revolution on our hands.
 
PAD posted a thoughtful, informative and articulate argument?

Wow.

IKIK

I agree with the "Daily Show" Comment. It's intelligent reporting.
 
Well PAD I can see where you'd be somewhat correct on the Adminstration thought for schools. When a Superintendent is paid 100K a year at least and teachers starting out can sometimes make less than the Janitor something's wrong. I think they offered a mint to KCMO's Superintendent and I was wondering where they find this $ when they're suppose to have a budget shortfall. They also tend to think he can offer some Panacea to fix the school district there.
 
I don't care if you people love and worship the dailyshow, but don't call it serious or intelligent reporting. It's a fucking comedy show on a network called Comedy Central. And last time I checked the daily show covers celebs just as much as the real news does.
 
[quote name='fanskad']PAD posted a thoughtful, informative and articulate argument?

Wow.

IKIK

I agree with the "Daily Show" Comment. It's intelligent reporting.[/QUOTE]

It actually happens fairly often, but no one seems to notice those. :lol:

Oh yes, and Daily Show rules them all.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']I don't care if you people love and worship the dailyshow, but don't call it serious or intelligent reporting. It's a fucking comedy show on a network called Comedy Central. And last time I checked the daily show covers celebs just as much as the real news does.[/QUOTE]

Yes, so that should be proof that

ratings =/= truth or integrity

Who cares if Fox news gets more viewers. It just goes to show that the media is not liberal (surprise, surprise), it doesn't mean that the invective spewing from O'Reilly's mouth has any more legitimacy.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']"On the Record With Greta Van Susteren" caught fire this month, with the show's focus on the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in the Caribbean nation of Aruba leading it to second place in the ratings behind fellow Fox News Channel show "The O'Reilly Factor."[/QUOTE]

Well, Scientology is paying off for at least one celebrity now. :lol:
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Good examples of basic things in American life most people should know but are oblivious to and TV news could correct.

1. There is a SSI account somewhere with your name on it where your money goes.
2. What baseline budgeting is and how the government defines "cuts" for sound bites.
3. Explaining that 15-20% waste (Government size and administration.) and/or fraud in entitlement spending is equal to or greater than the entire defense budget.
4. Total cost of employment for jobs. Including the employers matching SSI, workers compensation insurance, health and retirement benefits. I tire of hearing "I just make $36k." when matching SSI and insurance benefits put your package closer to $50k if you were self employed.
5. Why 40%+ of public school money is spent in administration as opposed to on teachers, buildings, books, computers and student activites like sports, art, music or theater.

That's a few of the basics that if covered like this missing twit in Aruba we'd have a revolution on our hands.[/QUOTE]


I just wanted to quote this since I actually agree with PAD, and that only happens a few times a year.
 
[quote name='camoor']Yes, so that should be proof that

ratings =/= truth or integrity

Who cares if Fox news gets more viewers. It just goes to show that the media is not liberal (surprise, surprise), it doesn't mean that the invective spewing from O'Reilly's mouth has any more legitimacy.[/QUOTE]


Fox being number one in no way disproves the media of being leftist.

It simply means that the majority of the people like to watch Fox news. They have plenty of other left channels to watch, yet they choose the right side. Hmmm...Fox news (conservative) gets more viewers than the liberal media. George W. Bush (conservative) gets more votes than the liberal candidate. Yep! Sure sounds like voter fraud to me.:roll: Those Neilsen people need to tighten the reigns. Geez.
 
[quote name='Ye Olde Article']Fox News remained on top of the ratings by a wide margin in the second quarter, according to data also released Tuesday. Fox News averaged 1.5 million viewers in the quarter in primetime, up 14% compared with a year ago. CNN's viewership dropped 13% in primetime to 721,000, and MSNBC fell 4% to 322,000 as the network was passed in primetime viewership by the resurgent Headline News, which grew 63% in primetime to 322,000.[/QUOTE]

This article is about primetime ratings. O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, and On the Record. Only.

This does not contradict the article that said Fox News' viewership is in an overall downward trend. It merely points out that, in prime time, so called because the largest number of people are watching television at that time, has an increasing trend.

There's nothing contradictory there. You could run a restaraunt that's busy at two times during the day, and dead the rest. It's perfectly possible to increase your business during one period (let's say "the dinner rush") and still be losing business overall due to times you are open not considered part of the "rush." It's fairly simple.

I agree that the cable news needs to get stupid hot white girls off my TV. That's why I watch Democracy Now! on LinkTV. They ain't much to look at, but boy is the news solid.

Derwood, I have *no* clue what kind of argument you're trying to make. In regards to making a causal claim (Fox Viewership=2004 Election=No Voter Fraud), you fail. Badly, too.

myke.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Its unfortunate that news channels are driven by ratings and not by the desire to report important news in an unbiased format.

Too bad its all about the money. I'm not just talking about Fox, either.

CNN's around the clock coverage of the latest celebrity trials ain't doing the general public any favors.

I think the Daily Show is still the best 30 minute "news program" on TV.[/QUOTE]

Hell yeah. It's one of my favorite shows. I can watch the news, but not get bored.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I could care less who is winning the ratings. All I know is the Rudi Bakhtiar is hot...[/QUOTE]

It's good to know who's out there reinforcing gender and appearance in news reporting.

Do you think Walter Cronkite was ever lambasted for looking old, as is, say, Helen Thomas? Do you ever think the news will let a female anchor look as old and haggard as Andy Rooney or Mike Wallace?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Helllooo? PAD? You've surely read what I had to say by now. Why so quiet?

myke.
...:lol:[/QUOTE]

Because I left the house and wasn't near a computer for 5 days???

Try it sometime.

It's called life.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']It's good to know who's out there reinforcing gender and appearance in news reporting.

Do you think Walter Cronkite was ever lambasted for looking old, as is, say, Helen Thomas? Do you ever think the news will let a female anchor look as old and haggard as Andy Rooney or Mike Wallace?[/QUOTE]

I was just saying that I could careless in jest. I watch whatever news catches my eye. I don't get caught up in talking about the supposed slants of CNN or FoxNews.

As for the old haggard anchor, the Red Sox won the World Series...anything is possible. To be honest women care a whole lot more about their appearance than men in general anyway. Look at Lesley Stahl for CBS, she's 64 and still keeps a nice dignified look about her. It would be doubtful she will "let herself go".
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']the Red Sox won the World Series[/QUOTE]

I'd accept that argument, however bringing up Lesley Stahl actually helps my point. Unfortunately for all of us (except perhaps for Racquel Welch...rrrrowr), we cannot fight the passage of time that leads to 'letting ourselves go.' My point was that ugly male newscasters keep their jobs. I do not believe the same is true for as many women. Helen Thomas wouls have been shitcanned decades ago if she were a television personality.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Because I left the house and wasn't near a computer for 5 days???

Try it sometime.

It's called life.[/QUOTE]

So I suppose I'm not going to get an "I read the article incorrectly and prematurely celebrated my data-based triumph over the rest of this board, but I now admit that I was wrong in presenting the results of the analysis" out of you, am I?

It's better this way, since I know it hurts to be wrong. Bad.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'd accept that argument, however bringing up Lesley Stahl actually helps my point. Unfortunately for all of us (except perhaps for Racquel Welch...rrrrowr), we cannot fight the passage of time that leads to 'letting ourselves go.' My point was that ugly male newscasters keep their jobs. I do not believe the same is true for as many women. Helen Thomas wouls have been shitcanned decades ago if she were a television personality.[/QUOTE]

Although not a newscaster, Sally Jessy Raphael has given hope to ugly women everywhere who want to be on TV.
 
The media isn't liberal by any means. Although, it is a joke and based on $$$. They just don't do their job. They don't talk about our successes in Iraq and they don't emphasize our failures in regards to domestic policies. You really need to dig to find that sort of information.

At any rate - Fox News is great for entertainment and general information - but not much more. The B. Factor is a joke.
 
Just my 2 cents. The media isn't liberal, nor conservative... just lazy. The media needs to report, not take sides, not give spin, not allow spin... search for the well I guess the best term for it is 'Bullshit" from any side, democrat, republican, green, libertarian, communist, facist, whatever and REPORT it.
 
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