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NEW THREAD HERE http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10172798

First post contains promo information & useful information and frequently asked questions. Second post has the values for games for Microsoft devices. Third post has the values for games for Nintendo devices. Fourth post has the values for games for Sony devices. Fifth post hardware values. Sixth post is open for expansion/reorganization.

Instructions on finding games in the database and inputting the values from different sections can be found in my blog post here: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/blog.php?b=14143. I would put the entire post in the thread but this is already kind of a large post.

Upcoming Promotions:

Black Friday Trade Deals

[quote name='Anonymous GameStop Employee']20% extra credit on trades toward refurbished/new electronics
25% bonus trade in credit when trading in 2 games
Double trade in credit on any system
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Current Promotions:
GameStop.com Information (will post it when they update it)


Trade 3 get $10 (11/18/12)
[quote name='GameStop.com'] Get $10 extra in-store credit when you trade any 3 games

Games with a trade value less than $2.00 are excluded from offer. Offer valid only toward games normally accepted in trade. Offer not good on cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. Offer subject to change at anytime. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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$25 Hardware Bonus, Select Systems (11/18/12)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Get an extra $25 in-store credit when you trade any PS3, Xbox 360, PS Vita or 3DS system

Offer not good on cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Hardware must have all necessary components for trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer vailid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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$30 Guaranteed, Select Games (Varied)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Guaranteed $30 in store credit when you trade select games (within 30 days of release) View Now

$30 value is net value after trade. Trade must be in full working condition to receive full value. Valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Subject to manager approval. See store associate for details. No dealers. Some exclusions may apply. Offer valid only while new game is priced $49.99 or higher. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. Offer expiration varies by title.
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Assassin's Creed III PS3 Bundle Upgrade Offer (11/11/12)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Get $75 extra in-store credit when you trade any PS3 toward a new PS3 500GB Assassin’s Creed III bundle.”

Full trade amount must be applied toward the purchase of a new PS3 500GB Assassin's Creed III bundle. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. Offer valid 10/30/12 through 11/11/12.
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Sony Collections Trade Offer (11/14/12)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Get 50% extra in-store credit when you trade any games toward the purchase of select Sony collections. Exclusively for PowerUp Rewards members


Eligible Games
- Ratchet & Clank Collection - $39.99
-God of War Saga - $39.99
- Jak and Daxter Collection - $39.99
- Ico and Shadow of the Colossus Collection - $19.99
- InFAMOUS Collection $19.99
- Journey Collector’s Edition- $29.99
- Uncharted Dual Pack - $39.99
- Killzone Trilogy - $39.99


Legal: Full trade amount must be applied toward the purchase of participating games. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. Offer valid 11/1/12 through 11/14/12.
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Power Up Rewards Exclusive Hardware Values (11/11/12)
[quote name='GameStop.com']PowerUp Rewards exclusive hardware trade offers are here. Trade in your system to score these exclusive trade prices.

  • Xbox 360 orig - $80
  • Xbox 360 slim - $125
  • PS3 - $125
  • Wii - $40
  • 3DS - $75
  • DSi - $50
  • DS Lite - $40
  • PS Vita - $90
  • PS2 - $30
Values are net after trade. Offer not good on cash trades. Hardware must be in full working condition to be eligible for this offer. Defective hardware may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Hardware must have all necessary components for trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer vailid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. Offer valid 11/6/12 through 11/11/12.
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30% Power Trade (1/6/13)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Get 30% extra in-store credit when you trade any items toward a new copy of select games. http://www.gamestop.com/mrkt/landing/pre-pay-bonus-30-trade-credit/

Full trade value amount must be applied toward the pre-order/purchase of a new copy of a participating game. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. [/QUOTE]


PC Download Power Trade (11/5/12)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Power Trade: Get an extra 25% in-store credit when you trade any games toward Prototype Franchise bundle, Dead Space Bundle, F.E.A.R. bundle or Dawnguard DLC digital downloads.

Full trade value amount must be applied toward the purchase of PC download of Prototype Franchise bundle, Dead Space Bundle, F.E.A.R. bundle or Dawnguard DLC. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward games normally accepted in trade. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. [/QUOTE]


25% Headset Offer (11/5/12)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Get an extra 25% in-store credit when you trade any items toward a new headset. including Turtle Beach, Tritton, Beats and more!

Full trade amount must be applied toward the purchase of new headset. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. [/QUOTE]


GAMESTOP USED GAME PRODUCT ID(thanks Xfactor4)
THE GAMESTOP USED GAME PRODUCT ID "CRACKED":

:gc:=916xxx
:360:=952xxx
:ps2:=938xxx or 939xxx
:wii:=917xxx
:psp:=935xxx
:ds:=919xxx
:ps3:=930xxx
:gba:=914xxx
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FAQ
These trade-in values are really low!
While that may be true, if you combine the games with the right promotion they can work to your advantage. There are knowledgeable people in this thread that are normally willing to help.

Is there any way to look at what the previous values reported on a game?
You can search through this thread and previous ones to see what a game has been reported in the past. With the TIV Tracker you can sort by date and then go through the list of past updated values through that as well. Here are the previous GS TIV Threads: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16,,,,,,,,

Can I trade-in sealed games?
No. You might come across the rare GameStop that would let you do it, but they are going to open them anyway.

I don't want to get hassled about the values I post, how can I get the information out there?
If you do not feel comfortable or willing to put the values in the thread you have two options available. You can input them in the TIV tracker or you can send them to me via PM. Either way the database and these lists will be updated. Putting them into the TIV tracker does save me some time later on.

Do trade-ins have to have their original case, insert and manual?
No, however it will be YMMV on if they charge you a refurbish fee for them in that condition. Most GameStops wont charge a fee but there are some that charge for incomplete games.

Will they accept my game if it is really beat up?
YMMV. It really all depends upon the employee you get. Some will charge refurbish fees, some wont, some wont accept the game and others just take them without a second glance.

What are the refurb fees on games?
There appears to be set prices for set value ranges. We aren't 100% certain on the splits just yet. Here is what we have currently:
$0.25-$2 Value: $0.75 Refurb Fee
$2.01-$4 Value: $1 Refurb Fee
$4.01-$7 Value: $2 Refurb Fee
$7.01-$10 Value: $3 Refurb Fee
$10.01 & Higher Value: $4 Refurb Fee
This information isn't guaranteed by any mean and we are still working on nailing it down.

What are the refurb fees on consoles?
They are listed in the hardware TIV section, highlight in red.

I have a Collector's/Limited/Special edition of a game, do I have to trade-in all of the extras?
No, but there are a handful of games that their variations have separate listings at GameStop: Madden 09 Anniversary Edition, Battlefield: Bad Company Gold Edition, and a few others.

Why didn't the percent bonus go for my accessory for a system that was included?
Unless stated otherwise, and they are rarely included, the bonuses never apply to accessories. Except the EDGE card of course.

I traded in a bunch of games for the "Trade X, get $X bonus" promo and it gave me the percentage bonus instead?
I can't give concretes on why this happens. GameStop computers are normally pretty good at giving you the better promo. In the case of a percentage bonus being run at the same time as a "Trade X, get $X" promo, things can get messy. The system appears to only give one promo on games per transaction so if you had a few games that you want to go to the percentage bonus and a stack for the "Trade X, Get $X" it will regularly apply the percentage to all of the games. Your best bet is to do all "Trade X, Get $X" games in one transaction on their own. The GameStop clerk may say that the system will figure it all out, tell them you want a separate transaction anyway. As always, check your receipt before you leave the store.

Can I trade in multiple copies of the same game?
YMMV. The official policy is no, but there are some GameStops that overlook that rule.

What all do I have to trade in for a console trade-in?
Xbox 360: Console Unit, power brick, A/V Cables, Controller (wired/wireless)
Wii: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cables, Wiimote, Nunchuck, Sensor Bar
Playstation 3: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller, USB Cable
Playstation 2: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller (Must be a DualShock2) *Fat unit requires either back cover or network adapter*
GameCube: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller
PSP: Handheld, A/C Adapter
Nintendo DS/DSLite/DSi: Handheld, A/C Adapter, Stylus

Can I trade in a defective/broken console?
For the most part yes. If it powers on but doesn't play games, they will take the console as a refurb unit and put a refurb fee on the console. The refurb fee on the console will vary on the price of the console so those numbers will change. You are still required to trade in everything required listed in the question directly above. They will not, however, take RROD 360 consoles. There may be stores that still do it, but official policy is to not take them in.

What is the difference between PowerUp Rewards and PowerUp Rewards Pro?
The basic card is free and only allows you to acrew points when spending money. The Pro card costs $14.99 and is basically the same as the previous EDGE program.

How much does a PowerUp Rewards Pro subscription cost?
It costs $14.99 and is good for a year. It also comes with a 1-year subscription to Game Informer magazine.

What bonuses come with having an PowerUp Rewards Pro card?
You will get an extra 10% trade-in credit on the base value of the game, extra 10% off the purchase of pre-owned games and 10% off new strategy guides.

Does the Power Up Rewards Card give me a bonus on hardware trade-ins?
No. You will only get the bonus for games and accessories.

What if I want cash instead of credit, what do they deduct?
If you decide that you want cash instead of credit, they will take 20% off the base values and promos will not apply.

Does promo "....." have a minimum trade-in value?
If the promo has a minimum trade-in value requirement, it will be listed in the promo. If it isn't there, then there is no limit. However, as with all trades, they are subject to manager approval so the manager could have setup his own little rule-set requiring a minimum of whatever.

I used a Power Trade promo for a pre-order, can I cancel that pre-order and get the credit or move it to another game I want?
Yes on both accounts. However, if you do a bunch of the power trades and just straight drop the pre-order you could create some ill-will between yourself and the employees you cancel on. However, if you look at the wordings on promos, they can remove the bonus trade-in value if they decide to.

I just tried to use a promo that has a select list of games eligible, but they say my game isn't eligible anymore, what gives?
Basically they have the right to change the eligible games at any time. They tend to update these frequently so as to lock out any easy/cheap games. It's best to check the eligible list the day of your trade.

Can I stack two different trade-in promos?
No. The only thing that will stack with trade-ins is your EDGE card. Some will report success, but this requires a manual override and is very YMMV.

If I pay for an item using all credit on my card, do I have to pay sales tax?
This varies depending upon the state you live in.

If I buy a used copy of a game that requires an online pass for multiplayer, will it come with an online pass?
If you purchase a used title published by either Sony or WB you get an online pass from GS on your receipt. That's also why the used copies are $55 instead of $48 when the MSRP is $60.

No GS issued passes of games published by EA, THQ, etc. On those titles you're totally dependent on the previous owner not using the code.

What states charge sales tax on purchases paid in full with credit and which ones don't?
Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia
Does Not Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming
No Information Yet:

My state doesn't charge sales tax on purchases made by credit, why is gamestop.com charging me tax?
It is just the way they have designed their system. The best theory we have seen is that since you are only inputting the number off of the back of the card, it isn't going to pick up the programming from the specially tagged EDGE cards. Some kind of programming that gets input from their system that wont show up when only inputting the number off the back of the card.


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[quote name='Donutkid2222']gotta question, what is the best way to apply for Gamestop, a basic position of labeling games, cleaning or register jobs, all or a mix if the duties are interchangeable. I've looked online and only see manager spots, best to ask for an application in store?[/QUOTE]

Just gonna warn ya. You have to really push powerup cards and preorders or you won't last more than a month. (books-a-million was the same way when I worked there. My assistant Mgr. said I was one of the best employees he ever had and I always got along with customers and got great feedback, but I got fired after 2 months by the Mgr. since I didn't sell enough member cards or magazines.)
 
I was misinformed about the slim 320 GB slim PS3 price even though I asked for the base value. It is actually $100 base. The $130 they quoted me the other day included the bonus. So,

Slim 320 GB PS3 - $100
 
I hope the DS3 TIV holds for a bit longer. I have two more DS3 that I might trade in. Already did 2 x DS3 and a sixaxis. DS3 traded for $42, then bought new one off amazon for $40.
 
[quote name='winterlane']Did he scan the barcode on the promo sheet and the computer system didn't add the bonus, or did he just refuse to scan it altogether? I thought some have reported receiving the 30% bonus on accessories when the employee scans the promo barcode without requiring any special overrides.[/QUOTE]

I saw him scan a barcode from a binder that he pulled out so he at least tried. Why it didn't work, I have no clue.
 
FYI I posted this in the weekly deals as well.

I took in 2 PS3 dual shock controllers whose buttons were getting a little squishy and traded them in for $42 EACH!! Base price was $30 and she gave me a 30% bonus for preordering a game for $5 and my power up 10%. So after the $5 preorder I got $79 for the two controllers.

Turned around and went straight to best buy and bought 2 new dual shock 3 controllers for $39.99 each. Basically got rid of some old wanky controllers and got two new Dual shocks for the price of the tax.
 
[quote name='soonerdoc']FYI I posted this in the weekly deals as well.

I took in 2 PS3 dual shock controllers whose buttons were getting a little squishy and traded them in for $42 EACH!! Base price was $30 and she gave me a 30% bonus for preordering a game for $5 and my power up 10%. So after the $5 preorder I got $79 for the two controllers.

Turned around and went straight to best buy and bought 2 new dual shock 3 controllers for $39.99 each. Basically got rid of some old wanky controllers and got two new Dual shocks for the price of the tax.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='paayter']why dont you out of courtesy and respect for fellow consumers not give a shoddy product for trade? i mean i dont mind dealing with flippers because at least when you buy their preowned products its brand new games...but when people talk about trading in their half broken products thats what irks me. what i hate the most is people saying, oh i hope gs will only test my system for 10 minutes because itll break. in all honesty these guys just resell taking your word. the worse thing is u cant test the product till you take it home, then you waste time and gas to go back and to return the product.[/QUOTE]




I would like to introduce you two. I think you will hit it off wonderfully. Just call me the matchmaker.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']I would like to introduce you two. I think you will hit it off wonderfully. Just call me the matchmaker.[/QUOTE]


Well controllers both worked. The buttons were just kinda "squishy" for lack of a better term. They are more than serviceable. That is what a USED product is. It isn't fucking new. It has been used. Hence the designation.
 
so I don't know how to quote all three people that helped me, so MSUHitman sasukekun xenozfan2, thanks. I called the store asking if they had any positions open and the girl said apply online, again I looked online, these managers positions. I'm going to fill out the online pdf application anyways and just give it to them.
 
[quote name='klimb22']...with pre-order.[/QUOTE]Well, technically you could get the bonus from trading towards an already-placed preorder, so there's that.
 
I was looking at picking up a used copy of NHL 13, do they include online passes for your purchase or do you have to drop the extra $10 on top of it?
 
Only WB and Sony games get free online passes w/used purchase at GS. If you want the online pass for an EA game, buy it new or cough up $10 more.
 
[quote name='slowdive21']Steal of the week is 3500 points for a 50% TIB[/QUOTE]

Is that a good deal for the amount of points?
 
[quote name='panda911']Is that a good deal for the amount of points?[/QUOTE]

Well you get 30% right now if you preorder. Plus 4000 points gets you $5 off a used product. So it's only really worth it if you do something like at least a ~$25+ trade in.
 
[quote name='panda911']Is that a good deal for the amount of points?[/QUOTE]

Terrible deal considering they just had a 50% bonus.
 
[quote name='panda911']Is that a good deal for the amount of points?[/QUOTE]
Each point is worth about 10% of a penny so for about $3.50 worth of points, its a good deal if your wanting to trade in right now.
 
GS is really trying to push more 50% trade ins. Last year, I remember only getting it once at the GS around me. I guess we have to thank BB for the competitive trade in prices :D
 
[quote name='Geco17']GS is really trying to push more 50% trade ins. Last year, I remember only getting it once at the GS around me. I guess we have to thank BB for the competitive trade in prices :D[/QUOTE]

Had a lot of them thanks to having a BB near them.
 
[quote name='Geco17']GS is really trying to push more 50% trade ins. Last year, I remember only getting it once at the GS around me. I guess we have to thank BB for the competitive trade in prices :D[/QUOTE]

if only gamestop could clean their discs like best buy does because well best but always has a terrible used games selection

also i wonder how long before someone posts a tekken tag 2 TIV lol to be frank im shocked it hasnt happened yet cause there is almost always a used copy of a brand new game that is less than 12 hours old.
 
just out of curiosity, does any one happen to know how many power up points you get per dollar spent?

EDIT: should have scrolled up more lol woops x_x already mentioned by parkerwilson above
 
[quote name='ken9']just out of curiosity, does any one happen to know how many power up points you get per dollar spent?[/QUOTE]

10 for basic and 20 for pur?
I think that's what it said as I quickly glanced at the brochure.
 
[quote name='ken9']just out of curiosity, does any one happen to know how many power up points you get per dollar spent?

EDIT: should have scrolled up more lol woops x_x already mentioned by parkerwilson above[/QUOTE]

parkerwilson was talking about if you converted PUR points to cash. If that what you were asking, then you have your answer. If you mean how many points you get per dollar spent at GS, it goes:

10 points per dollar spent on all new games and consoles
20 points per dollar spent on pre-owned games, accessories and consoles
20 points per dollar on traded-in games or consoles
 
[quote name='Royal High Knight']Do the hdmi cords have to be a certain length to be traded in?[/QUOTE]

Nope $4 each any length. 30% bonus if it is still running and 10% pur.
 
[quote name='slowdive21']Nope $4 each any length. 30% bonus if it is still running and 10% pur.[/QUOTE]

Awesome. Thanks for the info. Recently bought some 1.5 ft cables thinking that was plenty of length. Dumb me. Hoepfully I can trun that into $8.
 
[quote name='Toss']WTF 18" cables??? Thats' crazy[/QUOTE]

I dunno bro. Sounds good right? Order 2 from newegg, they get here and literally its the length of half my arm. Huess I should of bought 5ft cables. :lol: Jokes on me if I cant flip them.
 
So the thing with the steal of the week is depending on your trade it is a great deal. If you trade $110 (base) worth of stuff ($175 after bonus) you would get back the 3,500 points plus it is an extra $22 in trade. You can work back from there if you want.

$82.50 (base) gets you 2625 + $16.50
$55.00 (base) gets you 1750 + $11.00
$27.50 (base) gets you 825 + $5.50

Obviously the more you trade the better it is. Trade more than $110 and it pays for itself back in points.

I wonder if the coupon can be used multiple times until Sept 30th?

Edit: I see you have to put it towards a pre-order which makes it a little more of a pain.
 
[quote name='Royal High Knight']Do the hdmi cords have to be a certain length to be traded in?[/QUOTE]

There used to be reports of clerks pulling out a tape measure to make sure they were a full 3ft long, and being denied, because even though it was sold as a 3ft cable, it only measured 32 inches. Granted, that may have been a year ago at this point, so take it with a grain of salt. :whee:
 
[quote name='Xellos2099']Any idea if the $10 off coupon from powerupreward would stack with the $10 off coke coupon?[/QUOTE]

Nope. Although, it should stack if you have a different $ off coupon, like a $5 or $25.
 
this is probably a newb question but I never really paid attention to this portion but does the 10% Pro trade-in work with apple products?

It would be sweet if I could get the 30% trade-in promo they have right now with another 10% on top of it.
 
[quote name='iduncurr']this is probably a newb question but I never really paid attention to this portion but does the 10% Pro trade-in work with apple products?

It would be sweet if I could get the 30% trade-in promo they have right now with another 10% on top of it.[/QUOTE]

Nope. Just games/accessories.
 
[quote name='sasukekun']Nope. Although, it should stack if you have a different $ off coupon, like a $5 or $25.[/QUOTE]

is this confirmed? Was thinking of redeeming for some $5 off used coupons.
 
[quote name='FlamedLiquid']is this confirmed? Was thinking of redeeming for some $5 off used coupons.[/QUOTE]

I've done it before using multiple PUR coupons of different values. (Used a $10 and $25 off in the same transaction)
 
Well, I traded a small pile of games from my collection for $120 after using a 50% boost coupon and preordering final fantasy xiv. The guy ringing me up noticed a 'sku deleted' under my preorders and did me the favor of canceling it...

That was my persona 4 golden CE and now there's no way that he was able to re-reserve it. :c
 
[quote name='Byakurai']Well, I traded a small pile of games from my collection for $120 after using a 50% boost coupon and preordering final fantasy xiv. The guy ringing me up noticed a 'sku deleted' under my preorders and did me the favor of canceling it...

That was my persona 4 golden CE and now there's no way that he was able to re-reserve it. :c[/QUOTE]

50% boost coupon?
 
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