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WHEN REPORTING TRADE-IN VALUES PLEASE POST BASE VALUES & SYSTEM IT IS FOR.

First post contains promo information & useful information and frequently asked questions. Second post has the values for games for Microsoft devices. Third post has the values for games for Nintendo devices. Fourth post has the values for games for Sony devices. Fifth post hardware values. Sixth post is open for expansion/reorganization.

Instructions on finding games in the database and inputting the values from different sections can be found in my blog post here: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/blog.php?b=14143. I would put the entire post in the thread but this is already kind of a large post.

Upcoming Promotions:



Current Promotions:
GameStop.com Information (will post it when they update it)


$50 Extra In-store Credit, Select Systems (3/3/13)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Get $50 extra in-store credit when you trade any Wii U, PS3 or Xbox 360 system

Offer not good on cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Hardware must have all necessary components for trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer vailid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.[/QUOTE]


50% Extra In-store Credit on all Games Traded (3/3/13)
[quote name='GameStop.com']Get 50% extra in-store credit for every game you trade

Offer not good on cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Hardware must have all necessary components for trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer vailid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.[/QUOTE]

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GAMESTOP USED GAME PRODUCT ID(thanks Xfactor4)​
THE GAMESTOP USED GAME PRODUCT ID "CRACKED":

:gc:=916xxx
:360:=952xxx
:ps2:=938xxx or 939xxx
:wii:=917xxx
:psp:=935xxx
:ds:=919xxx
:ps3:=930xxx
:gba:=914xxx​
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FAQ
These trade-in values are really low!
While that may be true, if you combine the games with the right promotion they can work to your advantage. There are knowledgeable people in this thread that are normally willing to help.

Is there any way to look at what the previous values reported on a game?
You can search through this thread and previous ones to see what a game has been reported in the past. With the TIV Tracker you can sort by date and then go through the list of past updated values through that as well. Here are the previous GS TIV Threads: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16,17,,,,,,,

Can I trade-in sealed games?
No. You might come across the rare GameStop that would let you do it, but they are going to open them anyway.

I don't want to get hassled about the values I post, how can I get the information out there?
If you do not feel comfortable or willing to put the values in the thread you have two options available. You can input them in the TIV tracker or you can send them to me via PM. Either way the database and these lists will be updated. Putting them into the TIV tracker does save me some time later on.

Do trade-ins have to have their original case, insert and manual?
No, however it will be YMMV on if they charge you a refurbish fee for them in that condition. Most GameStops wont charge a fee but there are some that charge for incomplete games.

Will they accept my game if it is really beat up?
YMMV. It really all depends upon the employee you get. Some will charge refurbish fees, some wont, some wont accept the game and others just take them without a second glance.

What are the refurb fees on games?
There appears to be set prices for set value ranges. We aren't 100% certain on the splits just yet. Here is what we have currently:
$0.25-$2 Value: $0.75 Refurb Fee
$2.01-$4 Value: $1 Refurb Fee
$4.01-$7 Value: $2 Refurb Fee
$7.01-$10 Value: $3 Refurb Fee
$10.01 & Higher Value: $4 Refurb Fee
This information isn't guaranteed by any mean and we are still working on nailing it down.

What are the refurb fees on consoles?
They are listed in the hardware TIV section, highlight in red.

I have a Collector's/Limited/Special edition of a game, do I have to trade-in all of the extras?
No, but there are a handful of games that their variations have separate listings at GameStop: Madden 09 Anniversary Edition, Battlefield: Bad Company Gold Edition, and a few others.

Why didn't the percent bonus go for my accessory for a system that was included?
Unless stated otherwise, and they are rarely included, the bonuses never apply to accessories. Except the EDGE card of course.

I traded in a bunch of games for the "Trade X, get $X bonus" promo and it gave me the percentage bonus instead?
I can't give concretes on why this happens. GameStop computers are normally pretty good at giving you the better promo. In the case of a percentage bonus being run at the same time as a "Trade X, get $X" promo, things can get messy. The system appears to only give one promo on games per transaction so if you had a few games that you want to go to the percentage bonus and a stack for the "Trade X, Get $X" it will regularly apply the percentage to all of the games. Your best bet is to do all "Trade X, Get $X" games in one transaction on their own. The GameStop clerk may say that the system will figure it all out, tell them you want a separate transaction anyway. As always, check your receipt before you leave the store.

Can I trade in multiple copies of the same game?
YMMV. The official policy is no, but there are some GameStops that overlook that rule.

What all do I have to trade in for a console trade-in?
Xbox 360: Console Unit, power brick, A/V Cables, Controller (wired/wireless)
Wii: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cables, Wiimote, Nunchuck, Sensor Bar
Playstation 3: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller, USB Cable
Playstation 2: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller (Must be a DualShock2) *Fat unit requires either back cover or network adapter*
GameCube: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller
PSP: Handheld, A/C Adapter
Nintendo DS/DSLite/DSi: Handheld, A/C Adapter, Stylus

Can I trade in a defective/broken console?
For the most part yes. If it powers on but doesn't play games, they will take the console as a refurb unit and put a refurb fee on the console. The refurb fee on the console will vary on the price of the console so those numbers will change. You are still required to trade in everything required listed in the question directly above. They will not, however, take RROD 360 consoles. There may be stores that still do it, but official policy is to not take them in.

What is the difference between PowerUp Rewards and PowerUp Rewards Pro?
The basic card is free and only allows you to acrew points when spending money. The Pro card costs $14.99 and is basically the same as the previous EDGE program.

How much does a PowerUp Rewards Pro subscription cost?
It costs $14.99 and is good for a year. It also comes with a 1-year subscription to Game Informer magazine.

What bonuses come with having an PowerUp Rewards Pro card?
You will get an extra 10% trade-in credit on the base value of the game, extra 10% off the purchase of pre-owned games and 10% off new strategy guides.

Does the Power Up Rewards Card give me a bonus on hardware trade-ins?
No. You will only get the bonus for games and accessories.

What if I want cash instead of credit, what do they deduct?
If you decide that you want cash instead of credit, they will take 20% off the base values and promos will not apply.

Does promo "....." have a minimum trade-in value?
If the promo has a minimum trade-in value requirement, it will be listed in the promo. If it isn't there, then there is no limit. However, as with all trades, they are subject to manager approval so the manager could have setup his own little rule-set requiring a minimum of whatever.

I used a Power Trade promo for a pre-order, can I cancel that pre-order and get the credit or move it to another game I want?
Yes on both accounts. However, if you do a bunch of the power trades and just straight drop the pre-order you could create some ill-will between yourself and the employees you cancel on. However, if you look at the wordings on promos, they can remove the bonus trade-in value if they decide to.

I just tried to use a promo that has a select list of games eligible, but they say my game isn't eligible anymore, what gives?
Basically they have the right to change the eligible games at any time. They tend to update these frequently so as to lock out any easy/cheap games. It's best to check the eligible list the day of your trade.

Can I stack two different trade-in promos?
No. The only thing that will stack with trade-ins is your EDGE card. Some will report success, but this requires a manual override and is very YMMV.

If I pay for an item using all credit on my card, do I have to pay sales tax?
This varies depending upon the state you live in.

If I buy a used copy of a game that requires an online pass for multiplayer, will it come with an online pass?
If you purchase a used title published by either Sony or WB you get an online pass from GS on your receipt. That's also why the used copies are $55 instead of $48 when the MSRP is $60.

No GS issued passes of games published by EA, THQ, etc. On those titles you're totally dependent on the previous owner not using the code.

What states charge sales tax on purchases paid in full with credit and which ones don't?
Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia
Does Not Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming
No Information Yet:

My state doesn't charge sales tax on purchases made by credit, why is gamestop.com charging me tax?
It is just the way they have designed their system. The best theory we have seen is that since you are only inputting the number off of the back of the card, it isn't going to pick up the programming from the specially tagged EDGE cards. Some kind of programming that gets input from their system that wont show up when only inputting the number off the back of the card.


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New Base TIV:
360
Xbox 360 Wired Controller - $8.50
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic - $1.00
Stranglehold - $.20

Same Base TIV:
360
Dark Sector - $.15
Condemned 2 - $.50
Prey - $.25
HDMI cable - $4.00
 
[quote name='dakota0615']Ps3 250gb super slim tiv please anyone?[/QUOTE]


damn, just call! (you would already know by now...)
and then post here and let us all know how much as of today...
 
[quote name='donut']damn, just call! (you would already know by now...)
and then post here and let us all know how much as of today...[/QUOTE]

ive never seen so many lazy ass people on a forum before...wats so hard about calling?
 
[quote name='paayter']ive never seen so many lazy ass people on a forum before...wats so hard about calling?[/QUOTE]

sorry, my mom's basement doesn't have good reception..plus i'm socially awkward.
 
I think some people may just not know where the hardware tivs on the 1st page are located. It took me awhile to realize that the last post was all the hardware and accessories.
 
Well they told me there not taking super slim ps3s when i called and its not on the hardware section on the first page so does someone wanna help me out
 
Just traded in my (redringed) spare 360, and it seems the trade value for the fat 360 with wireless controller dropped $5 to $50. With double credit, goes to $100, minus $25 for refurb if needed. $75 in store credit sure beats it sitting in the closet!
 
So does GS not normally take PS3s that have hard drive upgrades. I swapped out my original 60gb and added 320. They won't take it because I upgraded; I don't understand why.

Got a quote at $70 base.
 
I'm getting tired of the employees over reacting when they see I've saved 1100 with my PUR. I've read posts from CAGs that say they have two or more PUR cards. I want to get a second card but what different information do you have to provide when applying?
 
[quote name='Croozer']I'm getting tired of the employees over reacting when they see I've saved 1100 with my PUR. I've read posts from CAGs that say they have two or more PUR cards. I want to get a second card but what different information do you have to provide when applying?[/QUOTE]

Did you have that happen during the new calendar year? Somebody else mentioned the savings having reset just recently. Not sure if it was by calendar year or not.
 
[quote name='Donut2922']Did you have that happen during the new calendar year? Somebody else mentioned the savings having reset just recently. Not sure if it was by calendar year or not.[/QUOTE]

I went to my local GameStop on the 8th of January i think and asked them if my YTD PUR Savings reset yet. They laughed and said nope, you're still around 1000 bucks.

edit: my PUR pro membership doesn't expire til March i think. Maybe that other member that mentioned it just also happened to have his PUR Pro expire around that time.
 
[quote name='Donut2922']Did you have that happen during the new calendar year? Somebody else mentioned the savings having reset just recently. Not sure if it was by calendar year or not.[/QUOTE]

Yes they scanned my card on the 10th so it looks like it doesn't reset for the calendar year. It might reset on the anniversary but that is not until April for me.
 
FYI for those of us looking to transfer GS credit elsewhere - my local store has begun selling Amazon "video game gift cards". After reading the fine print on the card and Amazon's website, it appears that these cards will function exactly like Kindle gift cards - they can be used for anything on Amazon.com. I do not believe these are leftover from the Kindle promotion as they are a different kind of gift card. I've to about $150 in credit and am out today looking to buy a few games to sell on Amazon or eBay to make a profit or at least cash out my credit. I will confirm the existence of these cards at other stores and if I have any credit left I will purchase one to test it out and make sure it functions as I would expect.

Sorry if this is old news but I know a lot of us were hoping that GS would start selling Amazon cards when it was announced they'd carry the kindle.

EDIT: none to be found at a second store. I will be at another store shortly and then one last store this evening. Will continue to update.
 
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[quote name='DustBoogie']FYI for those of us looking to transfer GS credit elsewhere - my local store has begun selling Amazon "video game gift cards". After reading the fine print on the card and Amazon's website, it appears that these cards will function exactly like Kindle gift cards - they can be used for anything on Amazon.com. I do not believe these are leftover from the Kindle promotion as they are a different kind of gift card. I've to about $150 in credit and am out today looking to buy a few games to sell on Amazon or eBay to make a profit or at least cash out my credit. I will confirm the existence of these cards at other stores and if I have any credit left I will purchase one to test it out and make sure it functions as I would expect.

Sorry if this is old news but I know a lot of us were hoping that GS would start selling Amazon cards when it was announced they'd carry the kindle.

EDIT: none to be found at a second store. I will be at another store shortly and then one last store this evening. Will continue to update.[/QUOTE]

My store has been selling these since mid-Decemberish. I bought one, redeemed on Amazon, and it's just a regular gift card. I think the wording of "Video Game Gift Card" is to throw people off? Maybe make folks think they can ONLY use this card on games, kind of like people who think Kindle cards can be used only on Kindle stuff.
 
[quote name='DustBoogie']FYI for those of us looking to transfer GS credit elsewhere - my local store has begun selling Amazon "video game gift cards". After reading the fine print on the card and Amazon's website, it appears that these cards will function exactly like Kindle gift cards - they can be used for anything on Amazon.com. I do not believe these are leftover from the Kindle promotion as they are a different kind of gift card. I've to about $150 in credit and am out today looking to buy a few games to sell on Amazon or eBay to make a profit or at least cash out my credit. I will confirm the existence of these cards at other stores and if I have any credit left I will purchase one to test it out and make sure it functions as I would expect.

Sorry if this is old news but I know a lot of us were hoping that GS would start selling Amazon cards when it was announced they'd carry the kindle.

EDIT: none to be found at a second store. I will be at another store shortly and then one last store this evening. Will continue to update.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. I think another person reported that they are also selling them digitally through their POS.
 
[quote name='Croozer']Yes they scanned my card on the 10th so it looks like it doesn't reset for the calendar year. It might reset on the anniversary but that is not until April for me.[/QUOTE]

Odd, my anniversary is in November, just was told the other day I have saved over $900. Hopefully thats for a longer period of time then 2 months, if not I need help ;)
 
Traded in Fat 360 today + wired controller + 20GB HD. Got $60 base for the console/controller and $5 for the HD. So $125 total with the double credit
 
:ps3: Far Cry 3: $20
:ps3: God of War (origins? collection ?): $3.50

Receipt says "God of War: Collection", but I traded in Origins!!!:whistle2:x I remember him looking this one up in the computer. How much did I lose? What the fuck can I do???????
 
I traded in a couple of games today (1/15/13), here are the Base TIV for them:

Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (Wii U) : $14
ZombiU (Wii U) : $18
Silent Hill Book of Memories (Vita) : $8
Blazblue: Continuum Shift Extend (Vita) : $5
 
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can't purchase a gift card with my PUR card for some reason online, keep getting this error:

"Thank you for choosing GameStop.com. The credit card billing information you entered does not match the information on file at your financial institution. Prior to placing a new order, please verify your billing information with your financial institution to ensure all information is accurate and up to date."

but I'm using credit to buy it, so I don't get it... anyone had this issue?
 
[quote name='iNFiNiTE HORiZON']can't purchase a gift card with my PUR card for some reason online, keep getting this error:

"Thank you for choosing GameStop.com. The credit card billing information you entered does not match the information on file at your financial institution. Prior to placing a new order, please verify your billing information with your financial institution to ensure all information is accurate and up to date."

but I'm using credit to buy it, so I don't get it... anyone had this issue?[/QUOTE]

I get this error whenever I try to order anything on GameStop.com. Doesn't matter if I'm using credit, a gift card, credit card, debit card. I ordered something once a few years ago, and ever since then I've had zero luck.
 
[quote name='iNFiNiTE HORiZON']can't purchase a gift card with my PUR card for some reason online, keep getting this error:

"Thank you for choosing GameStop.com. The credit card billing information you entered does not match the information on file at your financial institution. Prior to placing a new order, please verify your billing information with your financial institution to ensure all information is accurate and up to date."

but I'm using credit to buy it, so I don't get it... anyone had this issue?[/QUOTE]

I also got the same error. I tried to purchase a gift card with my e-reward eGift certificate (wanted an actual gift card to hold onto for later). Gamestop.com does not allow you to buy a gift card with a gift card. I tried ordering something else and the order went through, so it is not an account error.
 
So the double credit is still going? Man I absolutely hate my Gamestop.

First I went in with a $10 off a used game coupon and decided to get MW3. I get the nicest looking case and the manager of all people comes back and gives me a case so beat to **** that I refused to accept it. I asked why couldnt I keep the one I picked and he said they get to choose which ones to give out. I cancel my order but he scanned my coupon while I was cancelling so I couldnt get it back so I got upset and told him to cancel all 5 pre orders. He told me I was messed up for doing that but like I even cared so I managed to get more credit at best buy for that copy of MW3

Today I call the store and the assistant manager answers and I ask for the value of the 80gb ps3 and he said $80 so I asked if double credit was still going and he said no. So I asked they show online until the 27th so he told me they decide what promos go on in that store. I hope the store by me burns to hell.
 
[quote name='TheEliminator62']So the double credit is still going? Man I absolutely hate my Gamestop.

First I went in with a $10 off a used game coupon and decided to get MW3. I get the nicest looking case and the manager of all people comes back and gives me a case so beat to **** that I refused to accept it. I asked why couldnt I keep the one I picked and he said they get to choose which ones to give out. I cancel my order but he scanned my coupon while I was cancelling so I couldnt get it back so I got upset and told him to cancel all 5 pre orders. He told me I was messed up for doing that but like I even cared so I managed to get more credit at best buy for that copy of MW3

Today I call the store and the assistant manager answers and I ask for the value of the 80gb ps3 and he said $80 so I asked if double credit was still going and he said no. So I asked they show online until the 27th so he told me they decide what promos go on in that store. I hope the store by me burns to hell.[/QUOTE]

call another store and get the dms phone #. that'll fix it.
 
Playstation 3 super slim 250gb tiv $150.00
$300.00 after double credit
so if anyone wants to upgrade to a white playstation next week and get a year of plus free or a 500gb with assasians creed for free they can with just paying sales tax
 
Is the only way to know how much I can get is to go there or call? Looked around the thread for a while and didn't see the TIV for a slim 4GB. It's a Reach console but I'm keeping the HDD.
 
[quote name='DcupsOfJustice']Is the only way to know how much I can get is to go there or call? Looked around the thread for a while and didn't see the TIV for a slim 4GB. It's a Reach console but I'm keeping the HDD.[/QUOTE]

The Slim systems w/HDD preinstalled don't have the 4GB chip included and have to have the HDD in the system to trade it in. That's why there's so few used Slim HDD's in the Gamestop system.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']The Slim systems w/HDD preinstalled don't have the 4GB chip included and have to have the HDD in the system to trade it in. That's why there's so few used Slim HDD's in the Gamestop system.[/QUOTE]


Wow. Microsoft just couldn't make it easy for customers, could they? So, I have to move my saves to a thumb drive and then redownload all the games and DLC I had (if they are still available for download) so I can trade in for a new one?
 
[quote name='dakota0615']Playstation 3 super slim 250gb tiv $150.00
$300.00 after double credit
so if anyone wants to upgrade to a white playstation next week and get a year of plus free or a 500gb with assasians creed for free they can with just paying sales tax[/QUOTE]

I just called and was told $75 and $150 with the double. I did this to verify cause I was jumping up with joy when I first read your comment. I was so excited :(
 
[quote name='TheEliminator62']So the double credit is still going? Man I absolutely hate my Gamestop.

First I went in with a $10 off a used game coupon and decided to get MW3. I get the nicest looking case and the manager of all people comes back and gives me a case so beat to **** that I refused to accept it. I asked why couldnt I keep the one I picked and he said they get to choose which ones to give out. I cancel my order but he scanned my coupon while I was cancelling so I couldnt get it back so I got upset and told him to cancel all 5 pre orders. He told me I was messed up for doing that but like I even cared so I managed to get more credit at best buy for that copy of MW3

Today I call the store and the assistant manager answers and I ask for the value of the 80gb ps3 and he said $80 so I asked if double credit was still going and he said no. So I asked they show online until the 27th so he told me they decide what promos go on in that store. I hope the store by me burns to hell.[/QUOTE]

Is it GameStops policy to hire arrogant pricks? I hate having to call/visit any GameStop because they always seem to talk down to their customers. On the other hand, the stores with female employees always seem to be really cool and polite. I don't understand why the male employees seem to have this attitude. I know it's not all of them but I'd say 6 out of every 10 male GameStop employees act like their fuck doesn't stink.
 
[quote name='TheEliminator62']So the double credit is still going? Man I absolutely hate my Gamestop.

First I went in with a $10 off a used game coupon and decided to get MW3. I get the nicest looking case and the manager of all people comes back and gives me a case so beat to **** that I refused to accept it. I asked why couldnt I keep the one I picked and he said they get to choose which ones to give out. I cancel my order but he scanned my coupon while I was cancelling so I couldnt get it back so I got upset and told him to cancel all 5 pre orders. He told me I was messed up for doing that but like I even cared so I managed to get more credit at best buy for that copy of MW3

Today I call the store and the assistant manager answers and I ask for the value of the 80gb ps3 and he said $80 so I asked if double credit was still going and he said no. So I asked they show online until the 27th so he told me they decide what promos go on in that store. I hope the store by me burns to hell.[/QUOTE]

tellgamestop.com or like the other person said call another nearby store and get the DM's office number.
 
[quote name='dakota0615']Playstation 3 super slim 250gb tiv $150.00
$300.00 after double credit
so if anyone wants to upgrade to a white playstation next week and get a year of plus free or a 500gb with assasians creed for free they can with just paying sales tax[/QUOTE]

Yeah like the other person said they were telling you the amount AFTER the promo.
 
[quote name='Geco17']I just called and was told $75 and $150 with the double. I did this to verify cause I was jumping up with joy when I first read your comment. I was so excited :([/QUOTE]
Me too. Then I thought it was tgbgt.
 
[quote name='TheEliminator62']So the double credit is still going? Man I absolutely hate my Gamestop.

First I went in with a $10 off a used game coupon and decided to get MW3. I get the nicest looking case and the manager of all people comes back and gives me a case so beat to **** that I refused to accept it. I asked why couldnt I keep the one I picked and he said they get to choose which ones to give out. I cancel my order but he scanned my coupon while I was cancelling so I couldnt get it back so I got upset and told him to cancel all 5 pre orders. He told me I was messed up for doing that but like I even cared so I managed to get more credit at best buy for that copy of MW3

Today I call the store and the assistant manager answers and I ask for the value of the 80gb ps3 and he said $80 so I asked if double credit was still going and he said no. So I asked they show online until the 27th so he told me they decide what promos go on in that store. I hope the store by me burns to hell.[/QUOTE]

Must be a franchise store.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']tellgamestop.com or like the other person said call another nearby store and get the DM's office number.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I managed to call a store about 25 miles out and he even mentioned the Gamestop next to me has been getting flooded with complaints to the DM so if I wanted to try I could, but I probably wasn't going to reach him with so many complaints as it is. I know one of the old employers has been let go there's just 3 more in there that think they are better than anyone that walks in to the store that hopefully get axed next. Makes the experience worse than what it should since the next one close to me is that one 25 miles out.
 
Sorry to stay off topic, but would a Wiki thread containing the DMs for various regions get deleted? I'm sure it would, because just like 6 out of 10 GameStops are jerks, the number is usually higher for CAGs and most people would abuse it.
 
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