Opera Browser on Dec. 22nd

[quote name='eau']Does the upgrade go into the firmware, or will it be sitting in the internal flash memory where your game saves go?[/quote]As a downloadable and deletable channel, I would assume it will be sitting in the flash memory. Hopefully it's not much bigger than the beta, so I don't lose any extra room.
 
I would not pay for this. It's more a novelty than anything watching Youtube videos on my TV or whatnot. But my computer is right next to my Wii and a lot easier to browse on.
 
[quote name='dallow']I'll keep the beta version.

Do you think they'll disable it?
Though if they did, I suppose I wouldn't miss it.[/quote]

Why would you keep the beta version when the new and improved version will be free for you?
 
[quote name='lebowsky']Why would you keep the beta version when the new and improved version will be free for you?[/quote]
It's free temporarily. The beta is probably going to be free forever, as they can't really "shut it off." Perhaps Nintendo will release an update that forces an upgrade/deletion, who knows?
 
[quote name='yukine']It's free temporarily. The beta is probably going to be free forever, as they can't really "shut it off." Perhaps Nintendo will release an update that forces an upgrade/deletion, who knows?[/quote]
When the updated version comes out, they'll take the Beta download off of VC server. You'll only be able to download the final version.

If you upgrade before the July deadline, you won't ever have to pay the 500 points.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']When the updated version comes out, they'll take the Beta download off of VC server. You'll only be able to download the final version.

If you upgrade before the July deadline, you won't ever have to pay the 500 points.[/quote]
Ah, I see... I got a bit confused. I was thinking the full version was only going to be free until July, meaning that we would all have to pay for it after that period. Similar to how trials for PC software works.
 
From the US Wii page:

The full version will come equipped with a search button, making it even easier to look things up about what you have just seen on TV.

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And just so people can gather around in front of the TV and have fun, the full version can display cursors of multiple Wii Remotes. You still can only control the Channel with the first Wii Remote, but now others can use the cursors to point at things on the screen, to communicate where they want people to look on the screen, or where they want the person with the first Wii Remote to click.

First, there are now two types of zoom in the full version. The first type is the same as the one that was in the trial version, where it automatically determines the zoom level and zooms the area where the cursor is. The new second type in the full version is a multi-level zoom feature, where it can zoom in on the page in set zoom levels. Customers are now able to choose the one they like better from these two zoom types.

We're using a feature called "Outline Font" in the full version, so the words will never be blurry no matter how much you zoom in on them. Even when you zoom all the way in on the text, the words will display clearly.

Also, to make the words easier to read, we actually cut back on the screen size so the page width will be displayed at 800 pixels, even on a wide-screen TV. The viewable area will not be as big as it could have been because of this, but I think the screen became a lot easier to see.

So for the full product, we made about eight different prototypes of new ways the websites would scroll. We had people try them out within the company, and out of the eight, we went with the one where people had told us that was the easiest to understand for people trying out the software for the first time. The new scroll feature works by pressing the B Button, and depending on what part of the screen your pressed it, and the direction and the distance you move the cursor, it will change the scroll speed...This is really difficult to explain in words, so I really would like people to try it our for themselves.

Also, the new scroll feature will display a guide from the moment you press the B Button, so it's easier to tell in what direction and how fast you're scrolling.

And also in the full version, you're able to scroll using the +Control Pad. I think being able to scroll with the +Control Pad is a nice touch, since you can scroll without having to point to the screen.

The other feature that has really improved is its responsiveness. Many people had pointed out to us about how much time it took to load the Channel, and how long it took to display the Favorites. These were things that we were very concerned about as well, and improving their responsiveness was our top priority. As a result, we were able to shorten the initial startup time by more than five seconds, and the Favorites menu can be used right away once it opens, even if you added a lot of sites to it.

Regarding the Favorites and the initial startup time, we checked the program thoroughly, and we fine-tuned it going to great detail working closely with Opera Software. This is where our development experience here at Nintendo had paid off. However, I do feel that I want to shorten them even more before the release.

In the full version, the toolbar displayed on the bottom of the screen will be equipped with an auto-hide feature. We received so many request from our customers that they wanted to be able to hide the toolbar. To be honest, before we released the trial version, we had made the toolbar so that it could have been hidden. But we really couldn't justify adding that feature at the time because of concerns on how some people might not be able to understand the controls once the toolbar became hidden. But through the trial version, we felt a firm conviction that our users can definitely benefit from this feature, so in the full version, our customers are able to choose from different modes like the one where the toolbar will hide automatically after a while, and where the toolbar will hide away with a press of a button. As far as deciding on the perfect timing of when the toolbar should hide, we are spending a lot of time on it right now in deciding on its final timing.

We also received a lot of request about adding a keyboard hardware. At this time, Wii is not compatible with an external keyboard because of concerns like cost issues, but I do think it would be useful for text input, and it's definitely something to think about in the future. Also, with the software keyboard in the Japanese version, it's hard to tell the difference between the single byte and the double byte modes,1 and we had received many questions from people in Japan about not being able to figure out how to type in single byte mode. Of course, in the full version these two modes in the Japanese version will be a lot easier to figure out, and for all versions, fixed URL text that are commonly used like "www." and ".com" are displayed on the URL input screen, and they can now be easily entered. I think the usability has increased dramatically.

We were also able to resolve a lot of websites that were not compatible in the trial version. For example, the Japanese social networking site "mixi", which we received a lot of feedback from our customers in Japan about, is now compatible. But the thing is, although we are working on it daily, the World Wide Web is ever changing, and there are a lot of times where the site's feature would change as we were working to make that site compatible, so it's a time consuming process.

I would like to take this opportunity to talk about the release date of the full version. So far, we have announced that the full version was to be released by the end of March. However, due to the many feedback we received from our customers from the trial version, all the improvements that are to be implemented like the ones we have mentioned, and with fine-tuning the Channel to make it as compatible with as many websites as possible, the development process is taking longer than expected. Unlike the trial version, as we would like to thoroughly tune the Channel to ensure all the features that we would like to go in it are implemented, we are currently working so that the full version can be downloadable from the Shopping Channel sometime in April. I apologize that these issues have delayed its release, but I can tell you that we are working very hard on it, so please be patient while we are finalizing the full version.
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I believe once you download the final browser for free before July, it will be in you account and you can download it again to the same Wii anytime you want, just like any VC games.

If you get a new Wii after July, that's another story.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']From the US Wii page:[/quote]

Not too shabby. Sounds like they addressed many of the big concerns people were having (like hiding the browser bar), but didn't get to everything. Looking forward to using this when it comes out.

Is it weird that I think being able to see the multiple cursors is a really cute idea?
 
So let me get this straight.

There's a full version to be available soon, and if I get it before July, it'll be free.

Correct?
 
[quote name='dallow']So let me get this straight.

There's a full version to be available soon, and if I get it before July, it'll be free.

Correct?[/quote]Correct.
 
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