Otomedius Excellent Pre-Order drops to $29.99 @ Gamestop.com & Amazon.com

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As of today this game is now $29.99 on Amazon and Best Buy for standard editions. You can safetly switch your pre-orders to Amazon for no tax (in most states) and free shipping (everywhere). Not sure if they would add release date delivery for a product like this, if they do I will update the OP again (or if the price drops again to say $20).

This is now wikied so anyone can feel free to contribute to this thread as I will not have Internet for near a month, but should have it just in time for when this title is out.

Right now the release date is 11/1 which of course is always subject to change. (Game has been pushed back all year now.)

The collectors editon for $20 extra comes with: Pillowcase, Artbook and Game Soundtrack. Not too shabby.



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003WY86NE/ref=nosim/cheapassgam08-20 Standard Edition at $25.10 Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Otomedius-Exc...YZXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308291351&sr=8-1 Collectors Editions OOS as of 2/7/2012

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960 Standard Edition $29.99 Best Buy

http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/otomedius-excellent/77876 Gamestop online looks to only be supplying the collectors edition for now. (OOS as of 2/7/2012. Pre-Owned is $39.99.)

Wal-Mart currently wants $40 for this and a few other sites are over the new MSRP. If anyone happens to find any cheap deals on this game in the future feel free to wiki edit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryIuPCFC3Cw&feature=related
 
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[quote name='anotherpoorgamer']I've never seen a current generation go for so low at launch. I heard from someone that the first Earth Defense Force was released like this at a low price.[/QUOTE]

And its upcoming sequel will repeat the same thing.
 
[quote name='anotherpoorgamer']I've never seen a current generation go for so low at launch. I heard from someone that the first Earth Defense Force was released like this at a low price.[/QUOTE]

Raiden Fighters Aces was $19.99 at release
You Don't Know Jack was $29.99
Jack The Ripper was $29.99
Deadly Premonition was $19.99

Some other games to.
 
still not sure if i should snag it or wait for a possible price drop. Id hate to wait and not get a copy later. but theres no pre order bonus or anything so not really super inclined to pick one up. Hmm.. anyone else on the fence? what are you leaning twords?
 
I preordered it in the store for the same price of 29.99 so the store has the same price as their website so no worries. I told the guy the only way I preorder it if it's only 29.99 and he said yeah it's 29.99. Preordered it online but no free shipping so screw that, store and website same thing.
 
[quote name='clickpow']Same here, especially with Deathsmiles 2x being on games on demand now :bouncy:[/QUOTE]

Biggest reason that I'm considering getting this now rather than waiting for a drop is that I want to support these games getting disc releases rather than download releases. For Deathsmiles IIX, on the other hand, I'll be waiting for a sale or a price drop, because I don't want to pay $30 for a non-localized download.

Any word on whether this is getting any kind of localization at all, or whether it's as-is straight from Japan? Since it appears to have (probably a minimal, of course) story line, I'm hoping for some kind of translation so that I know what's going on. Also, it would be nice to actually be able to read the menus. :)
 
@arcane: I'm quite sure there'll be a localization, if at least for menus and storyboard (if there is one, most likely). I personally find my ears bleeding whenever I hear North American dubs these days, so if they do the menus and storyboards only and just leave it as-is, I'm definitely still buying it.

Here's hoping for some crazy Limited Edition of this with a soundtrack and maybe a artbook, which would be perfectly priced @40$. If not, 30$ is perfect IMO, since it seems the devs and publishers finally caught on that we want JP games and that every last one of us isn't a FPS zombie. (I stand by my words, though I'm a girl and I love shmups/rpgs/strats, I don't qualify as one of those CoD girlfriends who play games terribly only because I want to fit in.) Yes, not all of us are like that, but there's guilty ones in every crowd...

Back on topic, still in for 1 but hoping for an LE version as well as a Standard Edition.
 
[quote name='Purkeynator']Will wait until gamestop has it for $17.99 used and then buy 2 get 1 free + edge card it.[/QUOTE]

Way to show support for shmups....

On another note, since the release date was pushed back twice, i have a suspicion that some iteration of Gradius will be included on the disc. Most likely wishful thinking though.
 
[quote name='FairyLeviathan']@arcane: I'm quite sure there'll be a localization, if at least for menus and storyboard (if there is one, most likely). I personally find my ears bleeding whenever I hear North American dubs these days, so if they do the menus and storyboards only and just leave it as-is, I'm definitely still buying it.[/QUOTE]

Yup, menus and storyboards are what I'm hoping for. Anything else doesn't really matter to me one way or the other. I just want to know what's going on.

I'm with you on not liking most dubs -- hopefully there will be a Japanese with subtitles option regardless of whatever else they do. If they want to offer the option of choosing either that or a dub, that would be even better, but that's probably wishful thinking.
 
[quote name='Purkeynator']Will wait until gamestop has it for $17.99 used and then buy 2 get 1 free + edge card it.[/QUOTE]

:puke:

I mean.........

:puke:
 
[quote name='Purkeynator']Will wait until gamestop has it for $17.99 used and then buy 2 get 1 free + edge card it.[/QUOTE]

That's not really giving the devs any money though, that's just supporting your lolgamestop buying it used...

@lime: It got pushed back again? Last I saw it was July 19th, what is it now?
 
im still waiting to hear if the US version is going to be censored or not.. dont know if that stupid star censorship durring that preview vid was just for that presentation or what, but it has me concerned
 
[quote name='arcane93']Biggest reason that I'm considering getting this now rather than waiting for a drop is that I want to support these games getting disc releases rather than download releases. For Deathsmiles IIX, on the other hand, I'll be waiting for a sale or a price drop, because I don't want to pay $30 for a non-localized download.

Any word on whether this is getting any kind of localization at all, or whether it's as-is straight from Japan? Since it appears to have (probably a minimal, of course) story line, I'm hoping for some kind of translation so that I know what's going on. Also, it would be nice to actually be able to read the menus. :)[/QUOTE]

I have a feeling you'll be waiting forever for that Deathsmiles 2x price drop.
I'll support cave all day for digital releases if it means not buying a jap360 and being able to play games I would have never been able to otherwise. Cave dosn't have the resources to publish disc games overseas.
-Most shumps are primarily english menus regardless of localization.

@ above poster I really hope not
 
There's no way it'll be censored. Boobs sell games, censored boobs sell less games and boobs are pretty much in every game nowadays anyway.
 
[quote name='karyadi']anyone recommend a good arcade stick to get with this?[/QUOTE]

A Hori Real Arcade EX-SE or a Mad Catz fightstick modded with an LS-32-01.
 
[quote name='FairyLeviathan']That's not really giving the devs any money though, that's just supporting your lolgamestop buying it used...

@lime: It got pushed back again? Last I saw it was July 19th, what is it now?[/QUOTE]

It was originally planned for winter 2010, then pushed to june this year, now july 16.
 
Pre-ordered via peer pressure. I'm only weary because I have a feeling this is going to be $15 within 30 days of release, if this ever does get released.
 
[quote name='clickpow']I have a feeling you'll be waiting forever for that Deathsmiles 2x price drop.[/QUOTE]

Eh, not necessarily. Cave puts their iPhone games on sale every once in a while (I picked up both Espgaluda 2 and Do-Don-Pachi Resurrection for $4.99 each a couple of months ago). Sales on XBox Live games are less frequent than iPhone games, but they happen.

And honestly, eh, it's not really that big a priority for me. If I wait forever, then so be it.

[quote name='clickpow']I'll support cave all day for digital releases if it means not buying a jap360 and being able to play games I would have never been able to otherwise.[/QUOTE]

Good for you and others who are that into these games. Personally, I wouldn't have bought a jap360 or imported the games anyway, so that argument is a non-starter for me.

[quote name='clickpow']Cave dosn't have the resources to publish disc games overseas. [/QUOTE]

Then they need to make a deal with a US publisher. I don't know for certain, but I think that Aksys did at least as well as they expected to with Deathsmiles.

[quote name='clickpow']-Most shumps are primarily english menus regardless of localization.[/QUOTE]

If and when I see evidence that at least the menus (including all options and settings) are in English, then I may reconsider my stance. Everything that I've heard so far has seemed to indicate otherwise, though.
 
[quote name='dallow']What?

Of course Otomedius is fully localized!
Why is there even doubt about that?[/QUOTE]

The conversation took a side-turn into Deathsmiles IIX, which reportedly isn't getting any localization.

As far as this one goes, I just asked to be certain, as all of the trailers are in Japanese. I would actually be surprised if it's a full localization (in that everything, including the random comments made by the characters during game play, is translated), though. Like I said, I'll just be happy if I can read the menus and know the story.
 
[quote name='redroversk']Pre-ordered via peer pressure. I'm only weary because I have a feeling this is going to be $15 within 30 days of release, if this ever does get released.[/QUOTE]
I'll guarantee you a new copy if it hits $15 within 30 days of release. Konami games don't bomb that quickly. ;)

[quote name='arcane93']Then they need to make a deal with a US publisher. I don't know for certain, but I think that Aksys did at least as well as they expected to with Deathsmiles..[/QUOTE]
Incorrect. They were hoping to do more, but at least they reached the line where it wasn't a total loss. It was not a profit, however.
 
Don't worry then.

Otomedius is localized just like every other retail release.
Deathsmiles IIx is a pure ISO dump of the Japanese release.

Edit: ok, I see you added something about even the little dialogue outbursts during gameplay.
Who knows on that end like a lot of other titles but the meat of the games is of course in English.
 
[quote name='arcane93']Good for you and others who are that into these games. Personally, I wouldn't have If and when I see evidence that at least the menus (including all options and settings) are in English, then I may reconsider my stance. Everything that I've heard so far has seemed to indicate otherwise, though.[/QUOTE]

Because of the whole non localization of the game I am going to hopefully wait for the Platinum Hits version of DSX2 and hope they remove the region protection. Otherwise I will wait for a drop to $10 on the DD version.
 
[quote name='artego']Incorrect. They were hoping to do more, but at least they reached the line where it wasn't a total loss. It was not a profit, however.[/QUOTE]

Then they probably spent too much money printing faceplates that aren't compatible with the new 360s anyway, and boxes that were larger than retailers wanted to dedicate shelf space to. ;) Seriously, gotta wonder how much producing all of the collector's junk cut into their profits, and how many more people really bought the game because of that stuff than would have bought just a regular release.
 
For info's sake, the Gamestop pre-orders went back up to $50 to reflect the fact that it will be the COLLECTORS edition instead of the regular. Any current preorders are automatically changed to CE ones and moved to $49.99. Source = I work there. Collectors edition includes:

2-sided (oversized) pillow case, artwork on each side
64 page full-color artbook
20 track soundtrack
Special packaging (foil, embossed)

I'll try to get you guys a pic, but the only thing shown thus far is the pillow case.
 
[quote name='Chardyll']For info's sake, the Gamestop pre-orders went back up to $50 to reflect the fact that it will be the COLLECTORS edition instead of the regular.[/QUOTE]

Any idea whether the collector's edition is a Gamestop exclusive, or whether Amazon pre-orders are likely to go that way as well? Regardless, hurried up and threw in an Amazon pre-order just in case while their price is still $29.99 -- might cancel if it turns out to just be the regular edition.
 
[quote name='arcane93']Any idea whether the collector's edition is a Gamestop exclusive, or whether Amazon pre-orders are likely to go that way as well? Regardless, hurried up and threw in an Amazon pre-order just in case while their price is still $29.99 -- might cancel if it turns out to just be the regular edition.[/QUOTE]

Only time's going to tell, we'll probably know everything about it by the end of June. I'm hoping for Amazon to match the CE aspect and either keeping the 30 dollar price tag, or I'm fine with it being upped to 40.

The pillowcase will go good next to my RoAW pillow =D All the rest of the items are CE standardized, delicious mashed potatoes and gravy.
 
[quote name='FairyLeviathan']Only time's going to tell, we'll probably know everything about it by the end of June. I'm hoping for Amazon to match the CE aspect and either keeping the 30 dollar price tag, or I'm fine with it being upped to 40.[/QUOTE]

Well, they won't up the price on an order that's already been placed. They can't do that, the most they could do is cancel the order (which they probably won't do, as that would be bad for customer relations). So the real question is going to be whether there are both a CE and a regular edition at the time of release, or whether they only release the CE at first. The fact that Gamestop is now only listing the CE hopefully points to the latter.
 
[quote name='Kenshindono']im still waiting to hear if the US version is going to be censored or not.. dont know if that stupid star censorship durring that preview vid was just for that presentation or what, but it has me concerned[/QUOTE]It most likely won't. I'm sure it was only censored since it was shown at a presentation.

I also have a feeling our Limited Edition might be similar to the one Japan got, excluding the chair, based on what Chardyll mentioned. Perhaps in exchange for the sheets for the chair, they made them into pillow cases.
 
[quote name='Chardyll']Any current preorders are automatically changed to CE ones and moved to $49.99.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure it would be illegal to raise the price on a pre-order without obtaining the customer's consent. When a customer places an order and the company accepts it, it's essentially a contract between the customer and the business that the customer will pay that much money and the company will provide the item for that price. If the company doesn't want to fill the order at the lower price, they would have to cancel it and hope that the customer re-orders at the higher price.
 
Amazon has both the $30 version and the Collector's Edition listed, however, barely anything's mentioned, including a price and you can't pre-order. So it seems it could be at more than just GameStop.
 
Thats not what this http://www.gamestop.com/gs/help/disclaimer.aspx says.

"Typographical Errors

In the event a product price is listed incorrectly due to typographical error or error in pricing information received from our vendors, GameStop shall have the right to refuse or cancel any orders placed for product listed at the incorrect price, regardless of whether the order has been confirmed and your credit card charged. If your credit card has already been charged for the purchase and your order is canceled, GameStop will immediately credit your credit card account in the amount of the incorrect price."

I bolded the KEY point.
 
[quote name='RedEagleEX']Thats not what this http://www.gamestop.com/gs/help/disclaimer.aspx says.

"Typographical Errors

In the event a product price is listed incorrectly due to typographical error or error in pricing information received from our vendors, GameStop shall have the right to refuse or cancel any orders placed for product listed at the incorrect price, regardless of whether the order has been confirmed and your credit card charged. If your credit card has already been charged for the purchase and your order is canceled, GameStop will immediately credit your credit card account in the amount of the incorrect price."

I bolded the KEY point.[/QUOTE]

Right. As I said, they can cancel the order, but they can't raise the price on it, which is what Chardyll indicated they are doing.
 
Its your response to: "(which they probably won't do, as that would be bad for customer relations)"

I don't think GameStop cares too much about customer relations. Some employees might but they can't quite give you the extra $20 credit needed to complete the order either.
 
[quote name='RedEagleEX']Its your response to: "(which they probably won't do, as that would be bad for customer relations)"

I don't think GameStop cares too much about customer relations. Some employees might but they can't quite give you the extra $20 credit needed to complete the order either.[/QUOTE]

I was talking about Amazon there (see the quote I was responding to). Yeah, I wouldn't put anything past GameStop.
 
My guess is that the price hike is due to it being a different SKU than the original version. The original price point @$30 was for the non-CE version, so its a different item altogether. Could be wrong though. And yeah, the page I saw doesn't say anything about it being GS exclusive.
 
Of course arcane93, I personally am quite happy to see a Collectors Edition. XD I will be changing my order to the CE for the extra cost. Especially since I originally paid the full price before the price drop.
 
[quote name='RedEagleEX']Of course arcane93, I personally am quite happy to see a Collectors Edition. XD I will be changing my order to the CE for the extra cost. Especially since I originally paid the full price before the price drop.[/QUOTE]

I'm keeping my $29.99 Amazon order until I see what they do. If it turns out that they're listing the CE as a separate item, then I'll decide what I'm going to do with it. Though honestly, CEs just tend to end up taking up valuable closet space for me, so I'm not sure whether I'll bother with it or not if it's going to cost more.
 
If anyone is interested I would pre-order now and see what happens down the road.
You can always cancel a few days before it ships (I canceled a few of my pre-orders, Amazon doesn't seem to care about canceling pre-orders at all) and worst comes to worst Amazon cancels your order at $30, or better yet throws in free credit.
 
Yeah definitely, I've cancelled atleast a dozen pre-orders. Click, click, done. It's easy. I might want it down the road, the regular game, mind isn't made up at 30 bucks, but if that 30 turns into the CE(and especially if it gets more expensive but I keep my 30 dollar order), I'm keeping it.
 
[quote name='Chardyll']For info's sake, the Gamestop pre-orders went back up to $50 to reflect the fact that it will be the COLLECTORS edition instead of the regular. Any current preorders are automatically changed to CE ones and moved to $49.99. Source = I work there. Collectors edition includes:
[/QUOTE]

What your saying is illegal, its called bait and switch. Its where a retailer will promise you one thing but charge you more. Its illegal because its a form of fraud and deception because they promise you a product at a specific price but instead charge you for the more expensive one. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

And you saying you work there as if were all supposed to think your the king of gamedom because you say you work at lamestop is yet another reason why I hate that company. You dont work there and if you do, you have no idea what your talking about. Unless you copy/pasted that from yahoo answers because thats the only place that Ive seen use "source" like that in which case I apologize to you for castigating you for working for lamestop and I instead transfer that portion of my comment over to the person you copied/paste that from and tried to pass off as your own response.
 
[quote name='gargus']What your saying is illegal, its called bait and switch. Its where a retailer will promise you one thing but charge you more. Its illegal because its a form of fraud and deception because they promise you a product at a specific price but instead charge you for the more expensive one. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

And you saying you work there as if were all supposed to think your the king of gamedom because you say you work at lamestop is yet another reason why I hate that company. You dont work there and if you do, you have no idea what your talking about. Unless you copy/pasted that from yahoo answers because thats the only place that Ive seen use "source" like that in which case I apologize to you for castigating you for working for lamestop and I instead transfer that portion of my comment over to the person you copied/paste that from and tried to pass off as your own response.[/QUOTE]

Good lord, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Look pal, all I was trying to do by relaying this information was to let some people know that a collector's edition does exist and that it could be pre-ordered. I never said anything about putting GS up on a pedestal at all, just passed on the word. And the whole "source =" thing, is just how I type. Sorry that it pressed your buttons so much. I do work there, but where in saying that did I ask you for any recognition for it? I cited my source of information so as to provide a sliver of proof that what I was talking about was real.

As for the regular copies being changed to collector's, I could see that being a problem for online orders, definitely. But in-store, not so much. It's a different price since it's a different item. Pre-ordering in-store doesn't force you to pick the item up, you can still change your mind and grab it somewhere else instead. But should there have been a better sense of communication to the people who pre-ordered through either channel? Definitely.

Anyway, if you have hate for the company, that's your own business. But maybe not shoot the messenger, eh?
 
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