Otomedius Excellent Pre-Order drops to $29.99 @ Gamestop.com & Amazon.com

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As of today this game is now $29.99 on Amazon and Best Buy for standard editions. You can safetly switch your pre-orders to Amazon for no tax (in most states) and free shipping (everywhere). Not sure if they would add release date delivery for a product like this, if they do I will update the OP again (or if the price drops again to say $20).

This is now wikied so anyone can feel free to contribute to this thread as I will not have Internet for near a month, but should have it just in time for when this title is out.

Right now the release date is 11/1 which of course is always subject to change. (Game has been pushed back all year now.)

The collectors editon for $20 extra comes with: Pillowcase, Artbook and Game Soundtrack. Not too shabby.



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003WY86NE/ref=nosim/cheapassgam08-20 Standard Edition at $25.10 Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Otomedius-Exc...YZXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308291351&sr=8-1 Collectors Editions OOS as of 2/7/2012

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960 Standard Edition $29.99 Best Buy

http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/otomedius-excellent/77876 Gamestop online looks to only be supplying the collectors edition for now. (OOS as of 2/7/2012. Pre-Owned is $39.99.)

Wal-Mart currently wants $40 for this and a few other sites are over the new MSRP. If anyone happens to find any cheap deals on this game in the future feel free to wiki edit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryIuPCFC3Cw&feature=related
 
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I think it's just the fact that no one, no not even gamestop, can charge you more for a product than you agreed to. Yes, in store it might not be as big a problem, but I would sure be pissed off going in to pick up my paid off game and someone asking for 20 dollars, but online no one's order is suddenly going to go up 20 bucks. It won't happen, it'll get cancelled or be forced to ask that the change is ok per pre-order.
 
Interesting, I preordered this about a couple of weeks ago at my local gamestop. It would be nice to get this at the previous price of $29.99.

The "Pre-order low price guarantee" doesn't seem to work on price raises. Only price drops where you pay the lower price of the game if it the price goes lower after you preordered. :(

It might be a little tight to reach that extra $20 in 2 months, but I think I'll be okay. Still have to raise the funds for Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon.
 
[quote name='arcane93']Then they probably spent too much money printing faceplates that aren't compatible with the new 360s anyway, and boxes that were larger than retailers wanted to dedicate shelf space to. ;) Seriously, gotta wonder how much producing all of the collector's junk cut into their profits, and how many more people really bought the game because of that stuff than would have bought just a regular release.[/QUOTE]

Everyone that actually cares about good shumps and wanted to support the company bought Deathsmiles before a regular edition was even announced(at that point I'm not even sure if the slim existed.)
I'm not sure where you get your information about shumps but with that amount of knowledge you should play bulletsoul, it will be around your skill level lol. Just playing, bullet soul is horrible.
Shumps don't sell well it's a niche market, I highly doubt the LE had anything to do with that.

On topic, an Otomedius pillowcase would go great with the Catherine pillowcase.
 
[quote name='Vortextk']I think it's just the fact that no one, no not even gamestop, can charge you more for a product than you agreed to. Yes, in store it might not be as big a problem, but I would sure be pissed off going in to pick up my paid off game and someone asking for 20 dollars, but online no one's order is suddenly going to go up 20 bucks. It won't happen, it'll get cancelled or be forced to ask that the change is ok per pre-order.[/QUOTE]

Truth be told, I don't disagree with you. If it were me, I'd be pissed off too. I think what they should have done was stock both versions, and just give people the option of changing to the collectors. That way there are two items, with the original one still set to $29.99. But for whatever reason, they are only stocking the collectors edition and not the regular. But anyways, I think I'm going to give this one a try. I loved r-type and gradius as a kid so this looks close to that. Plus I'm a sucker for artbooks.

On the topic of side-scrolling shooters, how were the releases of Trouble witches neo and deathsmiles 2? Were they any good?
 
[quote name='clickpow']Everyone that actually cares about good shumps and wanted to support the company bought Deathsmiles before a regular edition was even announced(at that point I'm not even sure if the slim existed.)[/QUOTE]

Um, you do realize that you're making my point for me, right? Or is your reading comprehension level just that low? (wouldn't go there normally, but I'm willing to trade insults for insults) What I said was that Aksys could have put the game out in a regular edition and not even done an LE, and still all of the people who care about shmups and wanted to support the company would have bought it. Therefore, the money that they spent producing the LE was an unnecessary money sink which likely cut significantly into the profitability of the game.

I mean hey, don't get me wrong, I like a good LE as much as anybody (well, ok, probably not as much, as I don't buy extra copies to keep sealed and such). But if producing an LE or not is the difference between making enough of a profit to be able to justify releasing more games like it or not, then hey, I'd rather they release more games than put more junk in my closet.

Of course, I could be completely wrong on this, and it could be that even if they had only released a regular edition, it wouldn't have been profitable enough. Or it could be that enough people bought it because of the LE who wouldn't have bought it otherwise (or bought extra copies, or whatever) to make up for the added cost. I haven't seen the numbers, so I can't say.

And yes, I know that the slim wasn't announced yet at the time (I think it was right after), I was being a smartass.

[quote name='clickpow']Shumps don't sell well it's a niche market, I highly doubt the LE had anything to do with that.[/QUOTE]

Where did I say that it did? I'm well aware that it's a niche market. What I'm saying (again, in case you still don't get it) is that given the niche nature of the market, perhaps it would be better to concentrate on getting the games out as cheaply as possible rather than producing elaborate and expensive LEs that make it more difficult to profit off of the limited numbers that will sell.
 
@click: The Catherine pillowcase is the only thing that'd sell me on the DE, the rest is a bit silly lol.

@chardyll: I love Trouble Witches Neo, I was craving more shmup action post-Deathsmiles and TWN hasn't disappointed me in the slightest. I YT reviewed it blind play and gave it a 5/5, was and still am totally happy with buying it & the Luca DLC. As for Deathsmiles IIX, I'll buy that when I can manage to get some money going from my job ^^; Looking forward to it though.
 
[quote name='arcane93']Therefore, the money that they spent producing the LE was an unnecessary money sink which likely cut significantly into the profitability of the game.[/QUOTE]
Wrong. I can tell you the LEs themselves were not what determined profitability for DS. It was the copies of the actual game sold, LE or normal.
 
[quote name='Zonic505']It most likely won't. I'm sure it was only censored since it was shown at a presentation.

I also have a feeling our Limited Edition might be similar to the one Japan got, excluding the chair, based on what Chardyll mentioned. Perhaps in exchange for the sheets for the chair, they made them into pillow cases.[/QUOTE]

400 bucks for that shit? WOW.. thats absurdly inflated for an artbook and a sheet for a chair.. seriously. Are you sure thats accurate?

I do hope its not going to be censored, but honestly, until i hear a 100% confirmation on it i dont think im gonna bite. Plus, as some have said it may drop to 20 bucks or less a few months down the road.

Honestly though hearing about this collectors edition has me on pause even more. Id most likely prefer that if it has a nice artbook. I guess well have to wait and see exactly what the SE comes with. Im curious if it will be one of those that drops to
 
I bet Vortextk's life also. Let us consider the game's uncensored status to be fact.
 
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[quote name='Kenshindono']400 bucks for that shit? WOW.. thats absurdly inflated for an artbook and a sheet for a chair.. seriously. Are you sure thats accurate?[/QUOTE]Not only do you get a sheet for the chair, you get the chair as well, as Vortextk said.
 
Any Canadian preordering the LE? Amazon.com won't ship this to Canada and amazon.ca... sucks as always. Thoughts?

(Gamestop is NOT an option)
 
Aksys put a LOT of love into the US release of Deathsmiles with that manual. It didn't always make a lot of sense, but they still threw in a lot of info regarding the game's esoteric scoring system. No shump gives you that information. I was thankful for it, even if score is usually a fool's game. Shame they couldn't have localized a better game like EG2 but whatever. Apparently the greasy pedo market is the only market for shumps, which makes sense.

+1 for Trouble Witches Neo. I rather enjoyed it.

That said, I'm in no hurry to own this. It'll be $15 well before I can give two shakes about it. I didn't need that lousy-ass LE for Deathsmiles and I sure don't need more hideous, lousy swag for any shumps now. I regret not waiting and dropping a lot more than I needed too, but it was still a decent buy. Won't make the mistake of going in early for MSRP again any time soon.
 
So far the U.S. release/announced of disc based shmups on the Xbox 360 that I'm aware of:
Raiden Fighters Aces
Raiden IV
Deathsmiles
Otomedius Excellent

Am I missing any others?
 
You forgot Wartech, though it's more of a versus shump crossed with that mech XBLA game where you have to do that jump cancel thing to lock on.
 
[quote name='RollingSkull']You forgot Wartech, though it's more of a versus shump crossed with that mech XBLA game where you have to do that jump cancel thing to lock on.[/QUOTE]

I would consider that more along the lines of a Versus game like Virtual On than a Shmup.

I so want to preorder Otomedius... my wallet is crying between the recent preorders and the Blockbuster BOGO.
 
Also, Popcap's Heavy Weapon which I think they dropped on a disc for Xbox. Not a traditional shump but the dot dodging is definitely there.
 
Again, I'd be surprised if they cancel the normal editions considering they are $20 cheaper. Putting the standard at $50 will cause a few people to back out of purchasing it.

I am pretty much done with collectors editions as it ends up being money I wasted because It's shit I'll never use. Only good collectors game I bought over the last few years was Alan Wake because it actually came with a novel to read.
 
Konami shooters have some of the best soundtracks in the genre - far better than Cave's or anyone else's, except maybe for Taito (IMO). If you enjoy game soundtracks and like to legally own them, the CE really is the way to go. The pillowcase is the only item I don't care about, but the other 2 items outweigh it (literally and figuratively).
 
[quote name='arcane93']Um, you do realize that you're making my point for me, right? Or is your reading comprehension level just that low? (wouldn't go there normally, but I'm willing to trade insults for insults) What I said was that Aksys could have put the game out in a regular edition and not even done an LE, and still all of the people who care about shmups and wanted to support the company would have bought it. Therefore, the money that they spent producing the LE was an unnecessary money sink which likely cut significantly into the profitability of the game.

I mean hey, don't get me wrong, I like a good LE as much as anybody (well, ok, probably not as much, as I don't buy extra copies to keep sealed and such). But if producing an LE or not is the difference between making enough of a profit to be able to justify releasing more games like it or not, then hey, I'd rather they release more games than put more junk in my closet.

Of course, I could be completely wrong on this, and it could be that even if they had only released a regular edition, it wouldn't have been profitable enough. Or it could be that enough people bought it because of the LE who wouldn't have bought it otherwise (or bought extra copies, or whatever) to make up for the added cost. I haven't seen the numbers, so I can't say.

And yes, I know that the slim wasn't announced yet at the time (I think it was right after), I was being a smartass.



Where did I say that it did? I'm well aware that it's a niche market. What I'm saying (again, in case you still don't get it) is that given the niche nature of the market, perhaps it would be better to concentrate on getting the games out as cheaply as possible rather than producing elaborate and expensive LEs that make it more difficult to profit off of the limited numbers that will sell.[/QUOTE]

Clearly yours is worse. Like I said, everyone who really cares about cave games bought the game during its first few weeks of being released. Which means they have the limited edition(for those who can't read.)

I can almost guarantee Aksys did not take a loss for Deathsmiles NA but like they said the profits were not what they were looking for. It was a test and they decided the profits did not justify the resources.

I'm sure you don't know much about business but somethings are not worth the profit if the time/effort you have to put in are too great.
You can make more money by spending your time somewhere else where the profits are higher. Aksys is a small company and they don't have time for games that are not high profit.

Now for cave... There is no one who wants to spend their resourses to publish cave games over here. Long story short, games on demand or nothing at all. So why do people like you who don't know anything about shumps want to crap on the idea of Microsoft approaching cave with this great opportunity.
 
When you learn to write a coherent sentence, I'll consider bothering to argue with you. But since I don't even understand half of what you said: Sure, you won if it makes you happy, whatever.
 
Isn't wartech that super-hard-to-find 360 game? I think a friend of mine bought me a copy...now if only I could go upstate to get it from him lol. Asked him to mail it, we'll see what happens.

I couldn't even find out where you can back out of preorders on Amazon, would like to switch my preorder over to the CE.
 
[quote name='arcane93']When you learn to write a coherent sentence, I'll consider bothering to argue with you. But since I don't even understand half of what you said: Sure, you won if it makes you happy, whatever.[/QUOTE]

Every sentence in that last post was coherent. I may have missed a comma.... grammar nazi but that's about it. There is nothing to argue about, stop acting childish. You make no valid point.

http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1354.0 http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1349.0 This is probably you, lol


-Hopefully excellent is better than goregous.

-@ FairyLeviathan go to your orders after you sign into your account.


Edit to add: All I said was a joke comment about bullet soul on the initial post. It may be 100% true but I still said just playing. Plus with your limited knowledge of shumps you didn't know what I was talking about anyways. I wasn't trying to come off as a Richard Nixon so I apologize Arcane.
 
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Interesting, was looking for information what the collector's edition of Otomedius Excellent contained. I hope Gamestop's collector's edition is like Amazon's version or better. Not bad getting a soundtrack, artbook, and pillowcase for $20 more.
 
[quote name='anotherpoorgamer']Interesting, was looking for information what the collector's edition of Otomedius Excellent contained. I hope Gamestop's collector's edition is like Amazon's version or better. Not bad getting a soundtrack, artbook, and pillowcase for $20 more.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know they are identical.

Odd how amazon has a link for a special and a collectors edition, yet you can't buy the Special edition yet(if it even exists)

http://www.amazon.com/Otomedius-Exc..._7?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1306682706&sr=1-7

http://www.amazon.com/Otomedius-Exc..._3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1306682706&sr=1-3

Edit: put SE instead of special edition, might have been a bit confusing.
 
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[quote name='RollingSkull']People like clickpow remind me why shumps are such a niche genre. They attract some of the worst fanboys on the internets.[/QUOTE]

Aren't you the guy that says every game sucks. I'm sure you did not even bother to read the initial posts. Sure I love shumps, but the post has nothing to do with being a fanboy and yours has everything to do with being a troll/tard.

edit: please go back on topic or at least talk about shumps when you guys are done being all butthurt @ me. I'm not going to post in reply after this edit. Just going to try and gather some more hype for the game.

@ VyseArcad1a- I may have been a little rude but I was not trollin. Thx for @ least being on topic. All I was saying is cave can't publish disc games overseas and no company wants to pick their games up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOe9LZ7nsPg

Trying to find a good superplay but that video at least shows a few levels.
 
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BACK ON TOPIC...I have a bunch of leftover credit at Amazon that I completely forgot i had leftover from my trade-in so I preordered it. Huzzah!

[quote name='clickpow']
@ VyseArcad1a- I may have been a little rude but I was not trollin. Thx for @ least being on topic. All I was saying is cave can't publish disc games overseas and no company wants to pick their games up.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, my bad. I'm just tired of so many people on this forum bitching lately; I should have read it all. And it's such a shame too cause I would definitely buy all their games if it were. It hurt my wallet hard having to pay $45 for an import Platinum Hits version of Mushihime Futari 1.5.
 
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[quote name='clickpow']Aren't you the guy that says every game sucks. I'm sure you did not even bother to read the initial posts. Sure I love shumps, but the post has nothing to do with being a fanboy and yours has everything to do with being a troll/tard.[/QUOTE]
Level accusation derived from ignorance. Then accuse me of ignorance. Gotcha.

What I want to know is: We're two months out from release, supposedly, and the big preorder retailers still haven't gotten all the info on this collector's edition that just sprung up. Is that usual? Because, to me, it screams "delay imminent."
 
@Vyse: Yeah, I paid around 35 for it myself, but very much worth it =D Hope you enjoy it!

@Rolling: When it first popped up it was listed for earlier, but got pushed back to the current date of 7/19. I hope you're wrong on this one, this is definitely my pick of the summer next to Catherine.

Edit: @click: Thanks for the heads up, got everything fixed.
 
I don't think there's any real confirmation so far. Gamestop getting rid of it's normal game pre-order for now while amazon has both up, though that twitter to me sounds more like having both options at launch it's not very concrete.
 
Konami has also confirmed via Twitter that the release date is indeed July 19th.

I also asked them if it's just the Special Edition or if it'll be both normal & special.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Pillowcase! I need one of those.

I'm sold.[/QUOTE]

It will go well with the Record of Agrest War pillow case.
 
Pre-ordered the standard version from Amazon. I'll support every shump that makes it to the states in hopes of getting more. I've became a whore for this genre this year thanks to my iPhone opening up my eyes to these games once again, totally forgot how much fun they were. :D
 
[quote name='Zonic505']Konami responded & said that the game will indeed have a normal edition ($30) & a special edition ($50).

Hopefully, this'll clear any confusion up.[/QUOTE]

cant click the link since i have no twitter account. Have they made any announcements on whether the US version will be censored or not? Thats the main thing keeping me from pre-ordering this. People here have said theyre pretty sure it wont be, but thats just conjecture at this point. THe only thing we know is that it WAS censored.. and pretty badly for the demo video that was put out. Stupid stars everywhere over cleavage and entire scenes cut out

Id also like some pics of the special edition i dont seem to see any anywhere
 
Considering the trailer they released recently was basically the Japanese one but with subtitles, it seems to be uncensored, as they didn't change anything in the trailer. However, I can see if I can ask if it's uncensored or not.

As for the Special Edition pics, seeing as it's basically the same as the Japanese version, excluding the chair & cover. You can see the pillowcase & some of the artwork from the book here. But yeah, it'd be nice to see a pic of the US version SE.
 
The amazon listing for the collector's edition mentions downloadable content, while the standard version doesnt. Looks like an indication the collectors edition might include a voucher for DLC?
 
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